Bike or Die! Forum Archive

Over 450 pages of Bike or Die all on a single page!


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RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 RaNo
Vote for this game (!)
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Sz
As you wish
Time Trial Champions Sz
Scoring:
- 100 pts for the best time in a level
- at least 1 point for completing a level
Read more:  Scoring method changed
Freestyle Competition Sz
Rules:
- you can select only ONE of your games for the Freestyle Competition
- you can vote for max. 3 games
Gary's game on Riding School Part 2 Gary
Woohoo.. I am on the board at #10 as of 2004-07-13 19:06:31.

Yay!
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Gary
show off!!
Time Trial Champions Gary
This is fun!
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Aurelio
You rule on this game, already voted for you.
Stingray's game on Riding School Stingray
So ppl this is the best i can do
Cya
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Stingray
Great session !!!
Tor-Erik's game on Double Sprint Tor-Erik
This was actually only the second time I completed this level, and about the hundredth time I tried..
Tor-Erik's game on Double Sprint Tor-Erik
Good clean fun..
Yonic's game on Double Sprint Gary
Wow!!! Nice wheelin'!
Luna's game on Sinus Mountains fsde
Just like i tried to solve this level... but i failed *grrrr* ___ fsde
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Kaneda
You are the man on this game, my vote is for you.
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 RaNo
Thanks, guys!
Jonesey's game on Riding School Part 2 Jonesey
3 backflips!
The Ratt's game on The Right Way Jonesey
This is amazing stuff!
Jonesey's game on Double Sprint Jonesey
It's not that clear, but I landed the first jump backwards and rode the rest of the way like that!
Dan's game on Underground Lonnon
Now there's a unique way to avoid bonking your head on the ceiling. Nicely done.

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Downhill Madness Time Trial Sz
RaNo, you are the God of Downhill!
Fofo's game on Riding School Stingray
well done ! you did everything i did but i Little faster ! but i will catch you soon Cya !
rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 rachman!
What about this spin?
Stingray's game on Riding School Part 2 Stingray
thank you 2 for your votes ! very aprecieted !
Stingray's game on Riding School Fofo
So that's how we're gonna play it ehj, just you wait :p
Stingray's game on Double Sprint Fofo
Bah, that's an almost perfect play, gonna have a hard time beating this
Brtstvo's game on Riding School Kyle
Wow Not that special. Why did u post this.
shigekix's game on Malysz shigekix
?
Pvu's game on Sinus Mountains Fofo
Stay off my highscores! :p
slavko's game on The Well slavko
Beat this!
Fofo's game on Touch Bricks Fofo
There are so few people who managed to beat this level, so I put up this movie. The hardest part is probably getting from the floor to on top of the bricks, you'll need to find a good balance with your bike there.
Fofo's game on Downhill Madness Fofo
Catching air :p
Downhill Madness Time Trial RaNo
Not any longer
Stingray's game on Riding School Part 2 Stingray
4 Flips in one race , vote for this one !
slavko's game on The Well Fofo
Alright.. done.
Luna's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
2 double flips and a nice recovery - awesome
Fofo's game on Pipe Universe Fofo
I came up with a LOT of sketchy routes for this level. But this was the only one I was able to pull off and in a good amount of time.
Fofo's game on Spike Cave Fofo
screwup at the end, too bad
Hyunjin's game on Sinus Mountains Kyle
Thats not that special.
RaNo's game on Vertical Avenue Kyle
One word: WOW

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Allen's game on Wheel Insider Allen
Flips and flips
Fofo's game on Underground Fofo
Sweet sweet revenge
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider RaymondH
Five continuous flips and finished in a short time, please vote.
Fofo's game on Touch Bricks sSwallow
this stage is dammmm hard. u r good
Powerman's game on Riding School Part 2 Powerman
Einfach geile Fahrt ! Please vote, it´s a great race !!!
Downhill Madness Time Trial Fofo
Broawhaha!
Hey rachman if you look at other people's movies to do something, don't make yours secret!
David's game on Underground David
Two start flips and one near death, vote for this
Kyle's game on Jurassic Parking Kyle
skill!!! But u took to much time going down the dino's back. But ill give you a thumbs up on doing it on your 2nd try. Great job Kyle
Mike's game on Wheel Insider Mike
Spinning al around
David's game on Double Sprint David
At least look at it.
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider David
That is cool.
David's game on Double Sprint David
Vote for this.
slavko's game on The Well Powerman
Luck !!! (But I can´t beat it)
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity Max
super flips
Max's game on Spike Cave Fofo
very tight, nice
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
I think you should beat me in this level. Try to spend less than 1:45,00 because otherway I will get revenge.
Time Trial Champions Powerman
I love this game, please edit more levels !!!!
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Powerman
Looks like my race !
SDC's game on Downhill Madness RaymondH
What a lucky flip at last!! Good job!!
Time Trial Champions rachman!
It´s simply the best game I have ever played, congratulatios to the developers!

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Caboose's game on Double Sprint Caboose
Success at last!
Dave Linger's game on Sinus Mountains Dave Linger
SEVEN FLIPS!!! BUT STILL GOOD TIME!!!
Dave Linger's game on Sinus Mountains Dave Linger
Seven Flips, still good time!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Blake
I don't think many people are going to vote for your freestyle game if we can't see it...
M's game on Sinus Mountains M
Check the wheelies, flips, rolls, stoppy and bunny hop as I put the style into freestyle! This is about control, not time!
Didier's game on Touch Bricks Didier
Obviously I wasted some time at the end to make sure I finished it... Man this took me forEVER!!!
Pvu's game on Cloudwalk Didier
Good job, man!
Fofo's game on Riding School Part 2 Didier
That's amazing!!!
Pvu's game on Big Cheese Didier
Tu devrais soumettre ce niveau en "Freestyle"... Ta derniere descente est spectaculaire!!! (avec un brin de chance... n''est-ce pas?)
Aleksey's game on U Jump Aleksey
Cool Freestyle
SDil's game on Riding School SDil
The good trick has kept 2-3 seconds, vote...
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 AplMik
Can someone help me with vertical avenue
Max's game on Spike Cave AplMik
you rock but can you help me with vertical avenue
David's game on Double Sprint RaymondH
Good spining, so cool!!
Roel's game on Underground Roel
Bike or fly!
The Ratt's game on The Right Way David
That is cool
rachman!'s game on Sawtooth rachman!
Well, I was lucky...
Roel's game on Underground rachman!
Wow!! I wouldn´t believe it if I wouldn´t have seen it...
Roel's game on Underground Roel
Me neither
Roel's game on Underground Dave Linger
Wow...

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Melkij's game on Spike Cave Melkij
That was hard. A lot of places for mistakes.
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 3mh
Wow what a ride !!! Compliment
Fofo's game on Touch Bricks Melkij
Hard so no comments, still try.
Robin's game on Pipe Universe Robin
Off the wall! Check out this fluke. I was trying to get the flag off the wall, but managed to slip through the gap!
Roel's game on Underground Dags
Brilliant!! You've got my vote - never would have thought it possible.
Roel's game on Underground SooHyunKim
This is really nice. My vote is yours.
STG's game on Wheel Insider STG
Lucky Shot!!! Excellent Time and lucky control
rachman!'s game on Sawtooth SooHyunKim
This looked very easy but was kinda hard.. well, I admire your play. Well done.
AndyFong424's game on Wheel Insider AndyFong424
Performing 4 spins continuously for two times!!
bb_fighters's game on Wheel Insider bb_fighters
Fast and fabulous moves~
Time Trial Champions mattoo
Bike or Die is such a great game, thanks for your work !!
Bikers are kindly invited to contact me for any question or comment concerning the French Translation of Bike or Die ;o)
Timpy's game on Touch Bricks Timpy
WOW now that is a hard level
Lee's game on Double Sprint Lee
A Lucky Bounce, after a HUGE leap.
Roel's game on Underground Lee
Bloody Hell.... I could never do this!
Nice one!
Lee's game on Double Sprint SooHyunKim
Nice to see a kiwi here. ^^
PTS's game on U Jump SooHyunKim
Hi~ Nice to see a Korean here..hehe.. Good luck.
SooHyunKim's game on Downhill Madness PTS
Gooooooooooooooood!
SDC's game on Downhill Madness SnowBlind
Now this deserves votes!
SooHyunKim's game on Downhill Madness Dr. John
Sweet!!!! This level is drving me mad!
Downhill Madness Time Trial Dr. John
This level is driving me MAD!!

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Freestyle Competition SooHyunKim
Sz, Are you the developer of this game?
Igor.br's game on Riding School Part 2 Igor.br
going back
PleasE VotE !
Time Trial Champions Dags
Very well done SZ - you have the best game for the palm out there!! Touch Bricks is evil though!
Touch Bricks Time Trial Dags
An evil level! This should be #25 as it is by far the toughest to get right. 'Panic Bricks' would be a better name.
You Qi's game on Riding School You Qi
5 Flips at the same place
Time Trial Champions Dr. John
HELP! I submitted my scores,(from the browser as can't connect Palm to PC) but have beaten some of those times and tried to upload those, but get the message "Server rejected as file already exists" How do you delete or overwrite previously uploaded game files?
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider Pacu
I'm still laughing MAO. Funny and unbelievable.
DavidE's game on Riding School Part 2 DavidE
Beats the BEST freestyle for this level!
DavidE's game on Riding School Part 2 DavidE
Beats the BEST freestyle for this level!
DavidE's game on Riding School Part 2 Phill
very nice!
Phill's game on The Right Way Phill
im not sure what I was doing but I end up doing 2 awesome stalls! definitly different than other entries.
Robin's game on Pipe Universe Phill
hehehehe
Freestyle Competition Phill
hey everyone, I suggest checking out the newest ones first before looking at the top ranked ones because the new ones usualy out trick the front page ones!
DavidE's game on Riding School Part 2 You Qi
not very nice. but good.
Touch Bricks Time Trial Dags
I - HATE - THIS - LEVEL !! That middle ledge does me in every time.
Didier's game on Touch Bricks Dags
Well done though - you are one of the elite that has finished it now.
Dags's game on Touch Bricks Dags
Tough, tough, tough stage to complete. I know I can go faster but get nervous if I can get past the second ledge and always mess up the last brick near the flag! Aaaarghhh! Sz you are a bad man for making this level
Aleksey's game on Cloudwalk Lee
Dude.... we just HAVE to know.
How did you get this time?
How about taking the Private tag off this!
Pacu's game on Sinus Mountains Pacu
A couple of double flips, including a forward-then-backward flip. If you like it, vote. You'll like it.
Phill's game on Floors Phill
umm yes.

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Rouch's game on The Right Way Rouch
No sure this is the right way but this is the only way I manage to make a good time
Rouch's game on The Right Way Rouch
No sure this is the right way but this is the only way I manage to make a good time
David's game on The Right Way David
Fast and furious.
Gary's game on Riding School Powerman
Who votes for THIS ???
Fofo's game on Downhill Madness You Qi
I'm lovin it!
SDC's game on Downhill Madness David
That is cool!
Time Trial Champions David
"The best 3rd party levelpacks will be included in the Hall of Fame."

How can I send my own levels?
Time Trial Champions You Qi
This is the best game ever in Palm! Well Done!
Time Trial Champions Sz
Thank you for your comments!
Contact support@bike.toyspring.com if you have any problems with score submission. The same address should be used for sending levelpacks.
BTW. The first levelpack is already chosen and will appear here this week!
Freestyle Competition Sz
SooHyunKim: Yes, it's my game.
Phill: You're right, people should see more recordings before voting... I'll reorganize the site and one randomly selected game will be always displayed on the freestyle results page - hope this helps making the competition more interesting
Dags's game on Jurassic Parking Tagor
well done!
SiuLun's Levels Sz
This levelpack was made by   Allen - the "Bike or Die" player from Hong Kong. Do you like it?
Up stairs Time Trial Powerman
Impossible ?
Up stairs Time Trial Dags
Er..... ???? Did anyone test these out. This one looks a tad tricky.
SiuLun's Levels Powerman
I love it !!!
SiuLun's Levels Erich
These levels are tough and I just LOOOOVE them!
Up stairs Time Trial Allen
Yes, I test it many times, it is possible!! Trust me!
Up stairs Time Trial Dags
OK it's doable!
Dags's game on Up stairs Dags
Leaving this open so people can see it's doable. Tough level to get right though.
Dags's game on Up stairs Dags
Wow! Very tough to get right this one - but looks awesome when done quickly.

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SiuLun's Levels Dags
Nice levels - bit tough at first but once you get the hang of them, they're not too bad.
Medals by Country Dags
C'mon Timpy, Robin, etc. Help me out here
Roel's game on Underground Lonnon
A truly stunning abuse of the physics engine. Great ride!
Medals by Country DoctorDED
Huhhh...Where's USA?
Dags's game on Up stairs SooHyunKim
cool.
SiuLun's Levels SooHyunKim
Awesome!
Lee's game on Double Sprint Gary
nice & smooth !
Sz's game on Street SooHyunKim
He needs more energy. lol. Great!
Dags's game on Jurassic Parking You Qi
nice ending!
Sz's game on Cloudwalk You Qi
haha! nice ending!
Medals by Country You Qi
hehe! Finally my country owned a medal!
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
ah~ hard to win it!
rachman!'s game on Sawtooth You Qi
yea
Freestyle !'s game on Up stairs Guyam
"Guyam" is my reel nickname, the "Freestyle !" was a mistake when I saved my game, I forgotted to change it to my nickname... (I used "Freestyle !" when I saved a fun game, but at the moment I've never submitted my games...)
SiuLun's Levels Jonathan
Very good level pack! Looking forward for more awesome levels!
Dags's game on Wheel Insider Shrek-hk
Wonderful, work hard
Time Trial Champions Powerman
I've found 2 new Levelpacks (each 26 Levels).
Look at "www.pdassi.de" and search for Bike or Die !
They are great !!!
Touch Bricks Time Trial Mobile
This is making me VERY ANGRY. Soon my Palm will be smashed to bits.
Fofo's game on Vertical Avenue Lee
Those are MAD skills
I never would have thought of running this through like this
Big Cheese Time Trial Lee
This one's a real toughie....
you can see from the range of times in the top #10
Come on guys.... how about taking of those "private" tags and letting some of us see how it's done!

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Cloudwalk Time Trial Lee
Another toughie....
Come on guys.... how about taking of those "private" tags and letting some of us see how it's done!
Guyam's game on Cloudwalk Lee
This was a particulary NICE way to finnish off.
Thanks for sharing!
Pipe Universe Time Trial Lee
Come on guys.... how about taking of those "private" tags and letting some of us see how it's done!
Bg's game on Downhill Madness Bg
Weeeeee!
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
I still can't manage to win this map.
SiuLun's Levels rachman!
Come on!! It looks like nobody is playing this levels!! I have many days yet with the same position in the rankings...
I got bored and I started playing XA sofware's levelpacks and OrR's levelpack, the last ones is great!! Sz, maybe you can make two levelpacks with them. This is a grat game!!
Sz's game on Cloudwalk Powerman
Hallooooo Szymon !
You must get the flags !!!
Spike Cave Time Trial You Qi
Can you imagine I used 3hours non-stop to win this level?
SDC's game on Downhill Madness SDC
who can go downhill with a landing?
SiuLun's Levels Dags
LOL Rachman! We only play so that you don't get bored.
Maybe if you weren't so good at the game .....
SiuLun's Levels Allen
Rachman!really play so gooooooood~~
Touch Bricks Time Trial Lee
Flip, I just NAILED this, and my PC dropped the drivers to my Palm....
32.98 - I promise... .AND I WILL post it as public.
Riding School Part 2 Time Trial You Qi
can anyone teach me how to play this level?
vas's game on Double Sprint vas
Full of jumps..real freestyle
vas's game on Double Sprint vas
6 jumps.4 in-one-piece. End is bit boring, but it hard to make it better-you mayght not get to final flag. Thanks for every single vote!! Vas(Czech rep.)
SDC's game on Downhill Madness vas
NICE ONE!
Freestyle Competition vas
It's bit strange.First 10 have a lot points and than? Who bothers to give a vote to someone at the end? That!s not fair system
SiuLun's Levels Satrian
Well, I actually think that this levelpack is great. It offers some tough things to beat and that is great. I'm also pretty glad to know that it was a regular player that made the levelpack. Great!!!
Pipe Universe Time Trial Lee
Mate... I can't even do it the "slow way"
Heaven only knows how the guys got the faster times!
SiuLun's Levels Kyle
I want more level packs!!!!!!!!!11

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vas's game on Double Sprint Brian
real nice!
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
heh~ finally I finished this level!
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
This is the hardest for me....
But still manage it...hehe
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Ok, it´s time to let you see my game. Maybe you can beat my time, but I will beat yours.
Pipe Universe Time Trial rachman!
Come on! I had made public this map, now, beat my time!
Jump Over Time Trial rachman!
You are near, but there is a step you are missing. Come on! make an effort!.
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial rachman!
Hey, my game is publicated, beat it!
rachman!'s game on Cave rachman!
I need some challenge!!
Stingray's game on Double Sprint rachman!
It looked imposible, but I did it!!... At the moment I can´t show you... first try yourselves...
Big Cheese Time Trial rachman!
This game can be done in 58 secs, but I hadn´t had time, jaja. Come on! There´s not an only way to do the things.
Spike Cave Time Trial rachman!
Yeah, I hate this level. I just finished and I hadn´t played again...
Cloudwalk Time Trial rachman!
Ok, now is publicated my game...
rachman!'s game on Cloudwalk rachman!
I thought it was impossible to finish this map in 33 secs with this routine... but now i see is the only one possible.
rachman!'s game on Touch Bricks rachman!
I also hate this level...
Aleksey's game on Cloudwalk Aleksey
I think, nice freestyle
rachman!'s game on Cloudwalk Lee
Amazing.. just amazing.... I really thought that you had found some secret way of doing this.... not just doing it perfectly!

Nice one!
Cloudwalk Time Trial Lee
Awesome... Cheers
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Lee
Dude.... I would NEVER have thought of making a jump like that!
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Gepeto
OMFG ! FSCKING PWNDDDDDddddddddddddd!!!!!!!1111111
rachman!'s game on palmstamp.com rachman!
I thing this is all I can do for this level... But who knows, maybe if you challenge me...

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rachman!'s game on Hill rachman!
I need to perfect the second half of the game...
rachman!'s game on Street rachman!
2 seconds lost...
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
very tough level....
Lee's game on Sinus Mountains Lee
The trick is the leap off the second hill
SDil's game on Vertical Avenue Lee
so dude.... how did you do it?
You Qi's game on Riding School Part 2 You Qi
hey! hanging on the wall!
Fab's game on Hellraider Fab
pffuuu...
Fab's game on Golden Gate Fab
Its not my game ???
Roel's game on Underground Fab
Flying man 8o

Time Trial Champions vas
everyone ty to put his freestyle to competition. There is a lot of very bad freestyle videos.can you just filter some of them out..some very bad. and left the worth seeing ones?
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
It's the top that looks good.
Oliver's game on The Well Oliver
THREE STRAIGHT BOUNCES...KIN'A TOUGH TO DO ESP. THE LAST ONE
Amos's game on The Right Way Amos
Nice fall
You Qi's game on Cloudwalk You Qi
I think I can get 36sec with this actually...
You Qi's game on Underground You Qi
hey hey! I'm the 1st 1 who allow ppl to view movie in this map! Feel so proud to it!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Come on in! Tell other people how to vote! Tell me what a loser I am! I don't care! HAHAHAHA!
snempaa's game on Malysz RogueNine
umm...
Double Sprint Time Trial rachman!
Ok, now you can see...
rachman!'s game on Floors rachman!
i love this map!! now is time to let you see how... you can beat my time, don't you?
rachman!'s game on Zip-Zap rachman!
i like this map...

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rachman!'s game on Square rachman!
A little dificult at the end...
Time Trial Champions You Qi
YAHOOO~~~~~!!!! I'm in the TOP #10 Ranking Table!
rachman!'s game on Zip-Zap You Qi
God!
Jump Over Time Trial You Qi
rachman, thx for the movie! you given me some idea how to play this map!
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
almost~~
You Qi's game on Vanilla Sky You Qi
My 1st Gold Medal!
Vanilla Sky Time Trial You Qi
rachman, beat this!
You Qi's game on U Jump You Qi
weird eh~~
Freestyle Competition You Qi
Guys! Vote at my current FreeStyle! For Sure you will vote it!
Freestyle Competition You Qi
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=7191 < this this!
T. Cagnotto's game on Jurassic Parking schematics2
Pure Luck
T. Cagnotto's game on Jurassic Parking schematics2
Pure Luck
U Jump Time Trial You Qi
I won! I won!
Touch Bricks Time Trial You Qi
this is the most stupid level ever.
Big Cheese Time Trial You Qi
I think going the route on top will be more faster(after getting the 1st 4 flags). Coz the route is not duplicated.
rachman!'s game on Floors You Qi
yup! I beat it!
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese rachman!
Ok, finally here is my game... I liked this level so much!
The Ratt's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Rather slow, rather boring. Check out my movie in the "Newest" section.
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese Nickita
This is incredible!!! Almost perfect !!!
Time Trial Champions Oliver
SZ can you also sort out all players by country so that we may know how many are we. Thnx, very nice software.....

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RogueNine's game on The Right Way JudgeDredd
This guy kicks butt. This is real freestyle!
Oliver's game on Big Cheese Oliver
other technique...but i think rachman's style is faster.
mine is a little easier...
you can beat this now...
The Ratt's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Or check me out in the leader board! Thanks Judgedredd
You Qi's game on Up! Up! Up! You Qi
muahahahah... shit! rachman copycat! dont want to let you see already!
Dags's game on Up stairs You Qi
I can make more faster than this... but I can't go down the vertical hole there
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 RogueNine
Check out my level in newest. More flips=more fun
rachman!'s game on Touch Bricks Xtreme mega
this sux
SDC's game on Downhill Madness Xtreme mega
fuckin awesum deserves #1
Sinus Mountains Time Trial You Qi
the most important key is the 3rd mountain.
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
this was really hard plz vote for it... its better than everyone elses! except #6's(rouge 9's)
slavko's game on The Well Xtreme mega
sheer fucking luck
Xtreme mega's game on Riding School Part 2 Xtreme mega
2 flips very nice
Xtreme mega's game on Riding School Xtreme mega
any ok lv check out my lv 4 it rules
Xtreme mega's game on The Right Way Xtreme mega
hard as hell(1st flag was hardest)
Xtreme mega's game on Wheel Insider Xtreme mega
took me 24 times (my lv4 is awesum)!
Xtreme mega's game on Double Sprint Xtreme mega
its ok
You Qi's game on U Jump Lee
Man, that IS odd.... wonder what physics were at work there!
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese You Qi
I will vote this game if it's in FreeStyle! WellDone!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
pretty cool
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
yup yup

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JP's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
this is horrible
RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 Xtreme mega
nice... not! lucky bastard
rachman!'s game on Double Sprint Lee
Dude... I give up, you see this game in a completely different way than I could ever! NICE
You Qi's game on U Jump You Qi
yea yea...

btw, thx for your vote!
You Qi's game on U Jump You Qi
Watch this! This is the MOST unique bike you ever seen!
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese rachman!
I told you it was possible in 58 secs... well... a little less...
Time Trial Champions You Qi
I think SZ is busying with his new game.

btw, I'm in the TOP #5 ! YAHOOO~~~~~~~~~~
Riding School Part 2 Time Trial You Qi
got the idea, done!
Sinus Mountains Time Trial You Qi
rachman! grr........ you are good.
Sinus Mountains Time Trial rachman!
Guess how I did it?... Sugest and I'll show...
Xtreme mega's game on The Right Way Xtreme mega
very hard, but fun... good, but soon ill b champ#1#1...
rachman!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity Xtreme mega
wow this sux
Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Satrian
Not the best of times, but a good "free fall". =P

Please vote if you like it.
You Qi's game on U Jump Satrian
That's just weird man... =P
rachman!'s game on Vertical Avenue rachman!
The hardest record I have ever beaten....
Downhill Madness Time Trial You Qi
This is a Luck Game
Hiroshi's game on Wheel Insider GPolice
Hehe, thats great. Takes 5 times to get it right
GPolice's game on Riding School Part 2 GPolice
Pretty average >.>
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Yeah, well done, you just did what I had planed to do. Maybe in some days...
Pipe Universe Time Trial Oliver
now i've beaten your time, now beat mine...

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rachman!'s game on Up stairs rachman!
I don't like this map...
Aleksey's game on Big Cheese Lee
Bloody Hell!
This is an out-there solution.... good luck to anyone who wants to copy it!
Medals by Country Volcano
Viva Mexico Cabrones!
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese You Qi
yayaya, you are right! good job.
Freestyle Competition vas
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=6075
try this one 6 jumps 4in-one-piece
Freestyle Competition vas
there's a lot of boring freestyles! What about filtering them? too many....just del some pls
You Qi's game on U Jump vas
Pretty lucky there man! Try this one-it was hard work!!
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=6075
carlo's game on Wheel Insider carlo
a
Aleksey's game on palmstamp.com You Qi
lol.. bad luck for you.. got a same time with rachman!
Square Time Trial You Qi
I can use 16sec to reach the last 2nd box(the middle 1)! But I fail to control my bike!
carlo's game on The Right Way carlo
The last jump is *always* about luck
RogueNine's game on The Right Way carlo
I agree! Great Job!
Pipe Universe Time Trial Lee
Fantastic!.... he didn't just beat it, he SMASHED it!
Xtreme mega's game on Hellraider Xtreme mega
i really can do this faster
Xtreme mega's game on Malysz Xtreme mega
this fun... but hard
rachman!'s game on Cloudwalk Nickita
How could Alexey beat it?
rachman!'s game on Floors Xtreme mega
u r an ass
miguel's game on The Right Way miguel
i am domokun!
rachman!'s game on Vanilla Sky Xtreme mega
sheer luck, faggot!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Dags
Fantastic!! RougueNine for freestyle champ!

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Aleksey's game on Big Cheese Dags
Well done Aleksey! Hard to beat that one.
miguel's game on Wheel Insider miguel
jaime pastelero is a noob! his telephone number is 6330621. call him, he is a noob!
Cloudwalk Time Trial You Qi
Beat me.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Your votes and support are looooooved
Volcano's game on Wheel Insider Aurelio
Really funny, specially the last flip.
LoL
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese rachman!
School stress me...!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Spring or Die!
Freestyle Competition rachman!
check my freestyle play... In this moment is in the lasts positions..
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
I put this game in freestyle competition... vote fot it if you like it...
rachman!'s game on Cloudwalk rachman!
Well, my game was not perfect.
rachman!'s game on Wheel Insider rachman!
Rachman's technique
rachman!'s game on Wheel Insider rachman!
Well, maybe somebody had already used but nobody had made it public. That's why I decrare it my technique.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe You Qi
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! NICE ENDING! Can't imagine how you think out the idea!

Well, you got my vote!
Volcano's game on Wheel Insider MATA
No manches que chafa!!! Basurisima.... jaja.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Dags
Awesome Rachman - how many goes until you got this right? I think this is going to be very hard to beat.
The Right Way Time Trial Xtreme mega
wow how do yall get this speed?
rachman!'s game on Vanilla Sky GPolice
Youre calling the best Bike Or Die player just 'lucky?'
rachman!'s game on Cloudwalk You Qi
yup! you lost some times in XXX!
Touch Bricks Time Trial Bálint
I like this level.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Lee
MAD MAD MAD
I don't believe these moves..... Amazing

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rachman!'s game on Wheel Insider Lee
I think you are right... I hadn't seen any others like this!
Sinus Mountains Time Trial You Qi
hmmm... I think the way you did it same as the way I did it... just only you accelerate a bit more than me only.
Sinus Mountains Time Trial You Qi
ok, my movie is free to watch now!
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider Xtreme mega
oneclub.tk
Michael's game on Cloudwalk Michael
What a tough level (at the bottom especially). Looks easy but it isn't. My highest rank yet!
You Qi's game on Sinus Mountains rachman!
This movie is great!! great flips!!
Sinus Mountains Time Trial rachman!
Guess what! I have a surprise...!
rachman!'s game on Sinus Mountains rachman!
I hate boring endings of movie...
Cave Time Trial rachman!
Congratulations MacKo! I don't know how you did it but for me has been impossible.. good job!
rachman!'s game on Sinus Mountains You Qi
Damn!! you ruled the game!
pumb.org Time Trial You Qi
Hey! the 4 ppl on top of me, mind to share ur movie?
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
It is hard to get 46sec!
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
If Bálint win score the 1st in Level10(Square), he will be the champion of this levelpack!
rachman!'s game on Sinus Mountains Tabs
I can see why you're the world champion
The Right Way Time Trial You Qi
training make the speed
pumb.org Time Trial rachman!
jaja, sure I do! this was not my best time...
nickwalt's game on Riding School Part 2 Apricewales
nice one nick
rachman!'s game on Floors Apricewales
u r just the dude...
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
..............GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR................ you again!
rachman!'s game on The Right Way Apricewales
how do u do it ?

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rachman!'s game on The Right Way Dallin
Oh my gosh! How do you do this stuff so fast? It boggles the mind1
Volcano's game on Pipe Universe Volcano
I said stop sir!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
vote me!
You Qi's game on U Jump Xtreme mega
wat the fuck!?!?!?!?! anyway thx 4 da tips
vas's game on Double Sprint Xtreme mega
u suck!
Xtreme mega's game on Downhill Madness Xtreme mega
pist... sure i can do better, dammit
Xtreme mega's game on Golden Gate Xtreme mega
this acutully pretty hrd...
rachman!'s game on Clay Serpent Xtreme mega
damit i love your cock
rachman!'s game on Clay Serpent Xtreme mega
i maent to say is ia wnt suck your cock!
rachman!'s game on Clay Serpent Xtreme mega
but an i trust myself?
rachman!'s game on Clay Serpent Xtreme mega
can*
Medals by Country rachman!
Jajaja!! Asi se habla Volcano!!
Touch Bricks Time Trial You Qi
This can done more better!
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
It's time you let you guys watch my replay.
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity Aurelio
Awesome!!!
My 3 votes for you
You Qi's game on Spike Cave You Qi
5days non-stop for this result. (I mean only play this level!)
Square Time Trial Volcano
omg my first gold medal! sniff its so beautiful!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Volcano
NO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE!! ITS NOT REAL!! HAX0R!! =P
Square Time Trial rachman!
Orale compadre! casi no puedo creer el tiempo que hiciste! Bien hecho! yo creo que me retiro de de jugar por algunas semanas... Mientrar tanto defiende la posición de México no? saludos!...
Touch Bricks Time Trial Bálint
I think 31.44 is more better...

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RogueNine's game on The Right Way Oliver
"REAL" free style...
Tabs's game on Sinus Mountains Tabs
Very Lucky.
Standard Levels carlo
What's the difference between time trial and Standard level rankings? thanks
Square Time Trial You Qi
God! Awesome! mind to share ur movie?
Standard Levels Oliver
Time trials include Siulun's levels, which means overall time... Standard level is just the 25 levels
Street Time Trial You Qi
This map can be completed within 46-47sec.
Wheel Insider Time Trial MATA
RACHMAN!! que hiciste en este nivel??? Como bajaste tanto el tiempo?
Freestyle !'s game on Up stairs You Qi
Why not just mail Sz to change the nick for you? I think he can do it.
Bálint's game on The Well Bálint
Do you like it?
rachman!'s game on Underground Dallin
How do you do this stuff?!?!?!?!?
Wheel Insider Time Trial rachman!
Checa mi rutina MATA, ya está publicada... jeje, aqui dice que estoy en segundo lugar, pero en realidad el primer lugar es mío.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe vas
well this was lucky. what about more jumps man? Like this
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=6075
SiuLun's Levels Dags
OMG is rachman about to lose one of his crowns??
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Bg
Psycho!!
Wheel Insider Time Trial MATA
oo ya veo, a ver que puedo hacer... gracias compadre...y apoyo que el nombre propuesto
Wheel Insider Time Trial MATA
oo ya veo, a ver que puedo hacer... gracias compadre...y apoyo que el nombre propuesto
Master KO's Levels Sz
Welcome to the new levelpack! (created by   vas)
Master KO's Levels Michael
Thanks. It's good to be in the top two...at least for a few hours!
Master KO's Levels Allen
very good levels!!
Master KO's Levels rachman!
I just have seen this level, I hadn't played it but in a firs view I don't like it. XA Software levelpacks and OrR´s levelpack are better for me.

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Master KO's Levels Sz
OrR's levels will be here soon!
Do you like XA Soft's levelpacks? I thought they are "too simple" for Hall of Fame... but I'll consider adding some of them, I just can't ignore our Champion!
Master KO's Levels Rouch
This new level pack is great, very well done and original.
XA Soft level packs are a little too simple (some level you have nothing to do...). And please Rachman take your time to play for one time I have a GOLD medal
Master KO's Levels You Qi
I'm late!
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial You Qi
16SEC!!!?? IMPOSSIBLE!
Master KO's Levels Dags
Nice levels. Challenging enough without being too frustrating. It might be nice to have some simple levels for a change.
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity Volcano
whoa did u gfet tired from flipping?
u get my vote
rachman!'s game on Wheel Insider miguel
i am impressed by your resourcefulness
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial Dags
I believe even faster is possible!
Downhill Madness Time Trial miguel
i agree, it's all luck.
Master KO's Levels Xtreme mega
i have made some of my own level pack and people at palmgear are very pleaesed if u want them contact me
Oliver's game on Jurassic Parking Dags
Very very nice Oliver - great control and all in one smooth move as well
Master KO's Levels Aleksey
I open my levels
Comment for it if you like it...

Bike or Fly, but no Die!
Good luck!!!
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Aleksey
Bike 'O' Fish
Aleksey's game on Cemetery Aleksey
Real Bike or Die
Oliver's game on Jurassic Parking Oliver
Thanks, I like this level. I'll try to be no.1 in this level...
nickwalt's game on Downhill Madness Apricewales
nice one nick, u make it look easy,
i keep crashing on this one. Top Ten

looks lik
Master KO's Levels You Qi
I might be away for a quite days.. maybe weeks.. coz my motherboard went kaput!
Aleksey's game on Cemetery Dags
Nice finish!
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Dags
Perfect fishing that one ...
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Dags
Are you serious vas? Rachman is the master of this game. No luck involved. I bet he could reproduce this as well. Buy the game and try even completing level 25 then you'll understand

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Master KO's Levels Dags
Sorry to hear that You Qi - I was out of it for a month and dropped from 3rd to 10th!
Aleksey's game on Cemetery You Qi
Nice!
Aleksey's game on Omaha Beach Xtreme mega
wtf?!?!?!?!?!
Master KO's Levels rachman!
I'm Back!!
Forget what I said about this levelpack, it's ok. But maybe you can make 1 levelpack whith a combination of OrR's and XA software levelpacks.
Master KO's Levels Dags
Rachman showed up
Just kidding - I still managed to keep a gold though!
Downhill Madness Time Trial carlo
Mabuhay, Pilipinas!
Master KO's Levels Rouch
I told you Rachman "take your time" but it didn't take you long to get the 1st place and all the trophies.
SZ could you split the column of comment in two line for medals and posters because Rachman has too much medals and we can't see the comment only the medals
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes rachman!
Yeah, it seems to be a perfect game!
Bike Impossible Time Trial Aleksey
rachman and Bálint cheaters
Bike Impossible Time Trial You Qi
haha... yeah~! hard to believe it can be completed within 21sec!
Bike Impossible Time Trial Aleksey
I believe in result 21 second.
Look here http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=9778

Cheaters
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe GPolice
Wow, lol, thats so awesome
Bike Impossible Time Trial Volcano
damn i came all excited about geting a badass time and rachman beat me to the secret! damn u filthy mexican! =D
Bike Impossible Time Trial Volcano
i guss i just had to try one more time =P (ok maybe fifty times again)
Master KO's Levels You Qi
hehe... nice web coding from SZ... now the site looks more clean.
Omaha Beach Time Trial You Qi
This should be the last level.
Bike Impossible Time Trial You Qi
hahaha!! Aleksey! wondering how you discover it!
Bike Impossible Time Trial rachman!
Jaja, I got my record of 21 secs and I didn't publicated in a first time because I suposed you would suspect... but Bálint got that 28 secs so I suposed the trick was discovered... Now I see everybody knows... let's make it public then!!
Bike Impossible Time Trial rachman!
I can do it in 15 secs... who says 14?
Master KO's Levels Sz

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Master KO's Levels You Qi
Hey! I'm no.1 currently. can't believe I beat rachman!
Master KO's Levels You Qi
OH NO~!~~!!!!!!!!!!! MY PDA SPOILED!!! HOLY S***!
Touch Bricks Time Trial Spots
Woot! FINALLY!

And #34 too! Out of 45. Okay, not so impressive.

This level's supernasty.
Bike Impossible Time Trial MATA
I have to give some credit to volcano... he showed me his routine, but the skills are mine. GRACIAS INCHE VOLCAN
Bike Impossible Time Trial MATA
Vamos rachman, cuelate al podio, y festejemos el 1,2,3 mexicano. Primera vez en la historia de bike or die!!

If rachman gets into one of the first 3 places, it will be first time in BIKE OR DIES history with a country sharing gold, silver and bronze. VIVA MEXICO!
Bike Impossible Time Trial MATA
Vamos rachman, cuelate al podio, y festejemos el 1,2,3 mexicano. Primera vez en la historia de bike or die!!

If rachman gets into one of the first 3 places, it will be first time in BIKE OR DIES history with a country sharing gold, silver and bronze. VIVA MEXICO!
Bike Impossible Time Trial rachman!
Viva Mexico!!!
Bike Impossible Time Trial You Qi
nice! rachman!
Bike Impossible Time Trial You Qi
because of this level I got my palm hard-reseted. I lost all my replays...
Midnight Mess Time Trial You Qi
This map can be completed in 22sec.
SinkInToDrinks Time Trial You Qi
weird, why no water inside the drink?
Bottle Time Trial You Qi
Do you think 0:06,26 is possible?
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes You Qi
yup... too perfect!
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
I'm very weak in this level pack!
Bottle Time Trial DDMac
I've worn a hole in my thumb trying
Bottle Time Trial You Qi
lol... then let us hope 0:06,28 is the perfect game!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains the end
this tottally is awesome
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe the end
you suck alot you filthy french basterd
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains rio grand
i luv this, WOWIE its coolio
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains el nio
its ok but no wortha 'WOWIE'

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Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
thanks every body for votin'!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains winer
nice.......................
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Lee
So..... presumably Xtreme has logged on as about 20 different people and voted for his own freestyle.

Nothing else could explain this being nmber one!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Sz
actually it is enough to create 7 false accounts because everyone can vote 3 times.
yeah, it's a great hacking achievement, your kindergarten friends will be proud of you
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
I vote that this one be deleted - it's obviously a fraud.
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains RogueNine
Definently screwed with but he was truthfull in his comments about that poor guy in 6th place. we should vote for him.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MasterBlast
Brilliant. You get mine.
el nio's game on Underground MasterBlast
what the hell?
Touch Bricks Time Trial Oliver
31.76 is not bad ;-}.
See it to believe it. Vote for it if you like it.
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
Watch and learn....
Midnight Mess Time Trial rachman!
I think in a little less...
Bottle Time Trial rachman!
Ejem... I disagree...
Bottle Time Trial You Qi
...
May I know how long you tried for the result?
Bottle Time Trial rachman!
Well, after my 6.30 secs record I think... 100-150 times... I just way trying to equal your record...
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains carlo
Bravo to the idiot. (note how all the ones commenting are the new players this week. Note also how none of them have even PLAYED a game)
OrR's game on Bike Impossible OrR
I know that I suck at best times but at least I found the secret way in this level. Here it is! I guess there are many ways to improve it...
Bike Impossible Time Trial OrR
This is one great level...
Bottle Time Trial OrR
This shouldn't have gotten into the highscore competition... :-/
SinkInToDrinks Time Trial OrR
I guess water will only be introduced in Bike or Die 2...
Spots's game on Touch Bricks Dags
Nice one Spots - welcome to the club mate

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RogueNine's game on The Right Way OrR
Awesome...
Master KO's Levels Satrian
Yeap... I think this levelpack is trully a winner. Specially in the "originality" department...

qi... what was that about you PDA??? I hope it hasn't died...
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Xtreme mega
sry eveyone on this i wasnt even on my name when this happened! i think it was my friend sum1 delete it plz!
Freestyle Competition Sz
the recent voting tricks and the huge amount of boring rides in this competition show clearly, that the rules need to be changed... do you have any ideas? voting and participating in the competition could be restricted to people having at least 5 (or more?) completed levels. this would remove a lot of "accidentaly" submitted freestyle games. what do you think?
Alex V.'s game on Double Sprint theONE
wow
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Keroppi
You are my first vote.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way rachman!
Sorry to say this, but, I think you've got some "ilegal" votes... MasterBlast for example, is a ghost user. Your score grew up too much in few days. Sz, Could it be possible you add a link to see the historial of users that voted for a viewed game?
RogueNine's game on The Right Way rachman!
JudgeDredd is a ghost too..
Hill Time Trial Volcano
come on balint its time to share =P
Freestyle Competition Volcano
Yes definetly change the rules, i would say more than 5 levels to vote, maybe only top 200 vote? or something like that to avoid ghost users
OrR's game on Bike Impossible Powerman
Thank you OrR!

PS: Your level packs are great!
Master KO's Levels You Qi
err.. ya.. haven't "died" yet. Well, that time I was sending my lastest replay from my pda to comp through IrDA. but who knows the IrDA refused to detect my pda. so I make a soft reset. and after that, ..... I think you can read my pda problem from here: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72808
Tabs's game on Sinus Mountains You Qi
You are!
Bottle Time Trial Dags
I've done a 6.30secs four times now!! Hmmm.... It's gonna take me a long time to get a fraction shaved off that me thinks.
You Qi's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
I agree! Very nicely done.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way OrR
Well, I gave him all my votes at once...
And while JudgeDredd and MasterBlast might not be submitting any scores, they could still be legitimate players...
OrR's game on Bike Impossible OrR
My levels should be added to the highscore competition, soon!
Get the latest fun version (including levels not good for the highscore competition) at http://grvoid.com/orr_fun.prc (last update was yesterday )
Standard Levels theONE
test the limits & just forget r still open bums{[download them]}
miguel's game on Downhill Madness theONE
unblock dam u
Medals by Country theONE
c'mon USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USAUSA... USA... USA... USA... ... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA... USA...

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RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
I don't know about MasterBlast but I can assure you that JudgeDredd is a different person. All I know is that I had 3'rd last time i checked and now it's 1'st.
Medals by Country You Qi
...
how come I won so many useless bronze medal?
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
I entered this game on freestyle competition because this level is very tough to finish fast. You should know it when you play it.
Up stairs Time Trial You Qi
This level.... grr.... :@
OrR's game on Bike Impossible Powerman
Hallo OrR!
Ich hab deine Level schon alle durchgespielt bis auf HAIR.
Das ist wohl nicht zu schaffen.
Können eigentlich meine Bestzeiten aus den einzelnen Levels mit in die Highscore übertragen werden, wenn deine Packs hier aufgenommen werden?
OrR's Levels Sz
Here are the long awaited levels from   OrR!
OrR's Levels You Qi
Reporting in!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way JudgeDredd
Yes, I can very much assure you that I am indeed a real person. I have made several level packs for various forums that member of. (over 60 levels in all) It sounds to me like you are feeling a bit of resentment for anyone that might have a better free style than you. I will now show you the same resentment for calling me a ghost.

Grow up!
OrR's Levels rachman!
Great levels!! see you soon...
OrR's Levels OrR
Have fun!
This is the version for the tough guys who want to compete for highscores. Get the Fun version at http://grvoid.com/orr_fun.prc ! Now with 20 levels!
OrR's Levels Dags
Cool!! More time to lose from mt life.
Aleksey's game on Loop 3 Dags
Wow!
OrR's Levels GPolice
Yay more levelage.

We'll see how tough they are OrR :-p (I always wondered how fast rachman could complete your levels )
OrR's Levels Dags
Whoa! These are the toughest so far. Very challenging in places and I'm only up to level 5!
Sz's game on Bird Sz
This is probably the most complicated way to complete this level
OrR's Cave Time Trial GPolice
Hehe, a bit harder than ur fun version
Loop 1 Time Trial GPolice
Hehe, I really like the end of this level where you bounce off the thingys. You dont really go around the loop... ita more like 'Flip 1'
OrR's Cave Time Trial OrR
Only a little bit...
Loop 1 Time Trial OrR
It took me some time myself until I was able to complete my own level...
Loop 2 Time Trial OrR
This one is actually easier then the one in the fun pack because Szymon didn't like the fall and I didn't like the fact that you died most of the time while trying to reach the finish flag...

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OrR's Levels OrR
Finally I completed all my levels and made the recordings public for your viewing pleasure...
Nose Time Trial OrR
If I remember correctly, there is some sort of secret way in this level... Could get you some seconds...
Tricky Time Trial OrR
The small hole where you have to pass with you hind wheel is actually smaller than I thought... Adds some challenge...
Sz's game on Fly! OrR
I didn't know that this was possible with your front wheel...
Tatra Time Trial OrR
This was moddeled after a real mountain in the High Tatras in Slovakia. It's the second highest mountain there if I remember correctly. The upper cablecar really has no pillars. And it's the only way to get on top of that mountain.
OrR's game on Bike Impossible OrR
Answered per PM.
Hair isn't that difficult...
Sz's game on Bird OrR
You might be right...
Time Trial Champions Volcano
Woohooo i am the leader !!! (at least until top5 players finish the new levels =P )
Vanilla Sky Time Trial Oliver
rachman! beat this...
Freestyle Competition JudgeDredd
Oh, so what you say is that us, that bought the game and like making new levels and playing them, have no right to vote? So we are suppose to submit 5 lame runs to get this right? This would just add to the number of lame free style runs there are now. I like building new levels and letting my friends play them. I don't feel I should submit a run if it is not good. I also can tell a good free style from a lame one, so why should I not be allowed to vote on the one I like? I think to make it fair, do not use a vote but a rating level. So everyone can rate each level on a scale of 1 to 10 the level that receives the highest avg. rating is #1 and the order of submissions should be reversed so that the new submissions are on the first page. This way all of the submissions get seen and rated.
Medals by Country Sz
you could get a gold medal for winning most bronze medals!
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Lee
I can't Believe you didn't implode on the quarter pipe at this speed... nice one!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MATA
I agree with rachman thats not fair for roel in 2nd place...and its not very difficult to complete a level doin´lots of summersaults... i dont see how you could get 20 votes but using ghost users..
Freestyle Competition Burguer
i meant only ppl having more than 5 completed levels (time trial) from standard levels should be allowed to vote
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
Flip, flop... flip, flop... flip...
Big Cheese Time Trial theONE
check out my freestyle of this level... 40 flips in 1 minutes... it rules
Aleksey's game on Big Cheese theONE
awesome!
Time Trial Champions theONE
where the hell did rachman! go?

snempaa's game on Malysz theONE
this sux
Tabs's game on Sinus Mountains Lee
that's NICE!
I wouldn't have thought of doing this at all

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Vertical Avenue Time Trial theONE
ha i finally beat this level of the damned!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Volcano
this game is secret xtreme...
You Qi's game on U Jump GPolice
Very amusing and odd It woulda been awesome if you landed
Alex V.'s game on Double Sprint GPolice
Skillage
RogueNine's game on The Right Way JudgeDredd
Freestyle is not about how fast you compleat a run. Its about how you compleate it. Pulling off the greatest number of tricks in a run is where the skill of freestyle comes in.
OrR's Levels You Qi
This level pack is too tough.
OrR's Levels Keroppi
Actually, I don't like this level pack because there are too many stages require you to "hang" your bike, which is quite "unrealistic". Anyway, I will try my best to finish all of them.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Well the basic idea behind voting is that the masses contribute their individule opinions and those opinions eventually add up. The beneficiary of those contributions shouldn't be held responsible for the unhappiness of people who's opinions did not outnumber those of the opposite side. I can't be blamed because my votes spiked in a short time. With the number of players who register online, it's not an impossible idea that there would be a leap in votes for a particular player. Also, just because another player quite recently utilized "ghost users" to send himself to the top, does not mean that anyone who might reach a higher level in the days to come has engaged in the same deceitfull actions. A final note, it doesn't really matter all that much to me what place I am in in the competion. While it is always nice to be first, if the gold medal is really this important to people like rachman and mata then give first place to Roel, it has been spoiled for me. I uploaded my movie because I enjoyed how I had completed the level and wanted other players to be able to see it. If an online graphic is this valuable then Sz, you can give it to him.
Bike Impossible Time Trial rachman!
Woww!! In this moment the four first places are for Mexico in this level!! Bien hecho paisanos!!
OrR's Levels rachman!
I'm back... about the levelpack, I like it, but there are very few options about takin other way than the logic..
Loop 3 Time Trial rachman!
I hate this level!!.. because of it, I didn't do my homework...
Fly! Time Trial rachman!
I know you will start guessing...
Cave 2 Time Trial rachman!
1-2-3 for México!!...
OrR's Levels You Qi
yeah... that's what I think also Keroppi. hope this is enough and not coming in the next level pack.
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
wow.. nice nice... you are making a virtual real landscape. Maybe I can done a level pack with the tallest building in the world?
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
wow.. nice nice... you are making a virtual real landscape. Maybe I can done a level pack with the tallest building in the world?
Sz's game on Fly! You Qi
I din even know this can be done in this way too. haha! weird for me.
Nose Time Trial You Qi
why not you demonstrate to us?
Loop 3 Time Trial You Qi
lol... same to me. I didn't sleep becoz of this level.
btw, I think this level can be done <39sec.
Spike Cave Time Trial You Qi
OLIVER!!!! YOU BEATEN MY TIME!!!!

Congratulation.

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Sqare Time Trial You Qi
Viva Mexico?
Bird Time Trial You Qi
ROFLMAO! Bird with a tyre eye!
Sqare Time Trial rachman!
jaja!! that's correct!!
Bird Time Trial rachman!
I didn't even find the shape of a bird... into you said that...
Tatra Time Trial rachman!
Yeah, maybe when I get my vacations in the school I will do my levelpack...
Fly! Time Trial You Qi
dont think so.
Tricky Time Trial You Qi
very easy to get rid if you stuck in the hole you mention.

think and try again!
Nose Time Trial rachman!
I don't believe... that red flags can't be taken of another way...
Fly! Time Trial rachman!
Well done You Qi... Isn't difficult, is it? So, why nobody does it?
You Qi's game on U Jump You Qi
but nvm, I got a nice "pattern" when landing.
Time Trial Champions You Qi
rachman likes play until all the levels get no.1 only submit his score. that's his attitude!
Cave 2 Time Trial You Qi
Finding Malaysian to play this game.
OrR's Levels Dags
I agree this LP is hard work at times. It's well done and challenging but it could do with being a bit more forgiving.
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
Well, this is easy for me... but I still can't beat rachman!
Nose Time Trial You Qi
maybe got "hole" let you to drop down directly instead of going through the curve?
Fly! Time Trial You Qi
yeah... weird... why nobody does it? and actually that was my 1st idea in mind also... and it's my second try only! I did it yesterday night and just wait until I completed all my level only post all of it up!
OrR's Levels [cz]lalal
Well I don't like design of this levels much..strange twist of colours. But otherwise I'll enjoy playing them
Fly! Time Trial Dags
I've tried so many times but it always crashes me out just as I'm about to drop. The one time I did drop successfully I didn't pick up one flag for some reason - aaarghh!! What's the secret?
Loop 3 Time Trial Dags
Yep this level is far to fiddly as are most of these.
Loop 3 Time Trial OrR
Seems like you guys have to work on your cablecar skills...

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Nose Time Trial OrR
OK, I just checked, you can't use it to get a better time... You actually need all the space there is to accelerate, then you can trick the phisics engine. You hang your front wheel on the block on the right side and it goes through it because of the speed. If I remember correctly I survived this once or twice... Probably better suited for a freestyle game...
Tricky Time Trial OrR
I don't think it's too easy, I die half of the time while trying to go up the wall to drop down again with enough speed to pass... But maybe that's just me. And your best time will be lost anyway if that happens...
Fly! Time Trial OrR
Maybe the small arrow sign scares everyone away...
Bird Time Trial OrR
Well, I didn't find a better name for this thing so I added the tire and called it a bird...
Sqare Time Trial OrR
I wonder if this can also be done with the cablecar trick?
OrR's Levels OrR
I agree that the colors of Loop3 are awfull... Maybe that's why I've still got my medal because nobody can stand playing that one long enough to get a best time... But I don't think the colors in the other levels are too bad though I'm quite shocked myself how often I used pink...
About the cablecars... Well, I invented them and now I somehow love them... They are creating some innovation and new tricks. But I think everything possible has been done with them so I don't think there will be too many more. The only thing missing is jumping from one cablecar onto another as in the last self running level in the second XA Sofware pack...
@rachman: Yeah, I watched out that I didn't leave loop holes in the leveldesign, perhaps I should have built in some more intended loopholes...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
xtreme mega helped this dude alot...
theONE's game on U Jump theONE
yup tis cool
rachman!'s game on Cave 2 GPolice
I refuse to believe it
I refuse to believe it

There's NO WAY!!
OrR's game on Loop 3 GPolice
GJ OrR, you're #1 on a level you made... I guess Rachman figured out how to beat your score by 20 seconds by the time you read this so good job on #2
Cave 2 Time Trial Volcano
HOAH!
Tatra Time Trial Volcano
a levelpack by rachman? that's going to be one THOUGH levelpack
Tatra Time Trial Volcano
*typo I meant TOUGH
Fly! Time Trial You Qi
Maybe.
Tricky Time Trial You Qi
I used 1hour to discover the trick!
theONE's game on Big Cheese You Qi
hahaha! You got my vote!
Up stairs Time Trial You Qi
TEACH ME HOW TO PLAY THIS LEVEL PLS!
Tricky Time Trial rachman!
Er.. Is there a trick? I think there are only key zones to get a good time...
Sqare Time Trial rachman!
In fact...
Golden Gate Time Trial rachman!
Very nice 31.4 secs... Who can beat it?

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Tricky Time Trial rachman!
By the way... I've got a 'trick' in Level 17 from Standard Levels... that gave me 9 secs less.. Guess how I did it?
Loop 3 Time Trial You Qi
I din play this level coz I'm busying playing the SiuLun's LevelPack!
Medals by Country You Qi
lol.. yea yea!

btw, why our gold medal won by ranking is not counted inside here?
Sqare Time Trial Dags
Yes it can but it was slower that way for me
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Dags
So what? Rogue Nine - you have the best freestyle so far and should be pround of it! I don't see anyone else doing this or any other level backwards. Rachman's freestyle was cool but not as cool as this in my opinion. And Mata Roel's got my vote originally cos it was a unique idea but it has bow been copied to death and beaten (even by you) and therefore is not the best freestyle anymore.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Dags
Can we have the racist comments removed please! They don't belong here.
theONE's game on Big Cheese GPolice
42... And a half if you count all of em
Bird Time Trial Robin
Wow, a gold medal AND beat Rachman. Bet it won't last long!
Golden Gate Time Trial You Qi
LOL! you love to discover new tricks!
Tricky Time Trial You Qi
You just make a flip at the 1st bridge after getting back and voila! correct?
Dags's game on Sqare You Qi
thx for the idea!
Sz's game on Cloudwalk theONE
this is aesome... i mAN, WOW!
Rouch's game on Riding School theONE
WOW
Square Time Trial Volcano
OK my movie is public for your viewing pleasure! and i also hope that you DIE trying to beat me =P
Square Time Trial You Qi
lol... I got the same idea as you.
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
Reakon! So close to crashing, yet doesn't. Nice 1
SinkInToDrinks Time Trial You Qi
free to watch my movie now.
Golden Gate Time Trial Dags
care to share?
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity Dags
Lol! Good one - looked awesome!
Omaha Beach Time Trial Dags
Yep! This level sucks!

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Bob Chan's game on Riding School Part 2 theONE
and how is this freestyle?
You Qi's game on U Jump theONE
nice... in a a what was that kinda way!
snempaa's game on Bottle snempaa
dikke ball'n?
T. Cagnotto's game on Spike Cave theONE
wow
Satrian's game on Cloudwalk theONE
down to helll
Cablecar Time Trial Aleksey
Look this - http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=11002

I think this is MY best freestyle.

Vote, if you like it.
Aleksey's game on Cablecar Aleksey
Dark side of the Mercedes-Benz http://www.vizitcard.ru/Mercedes.jpg
Aleksey's game on Cablecar GPolice
Lol, I can see the guy on 3-pronged thing going 'Oh noes wtf'
Jump Over Time Trial theONE
not that hard but challenging
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial theONE
its hidden
Omaha Beach Time Trial theONE
i will works as hard as the soldiers on normandy did to beat this level(or in their case the fuckin nazis!)
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Sena
shutup end, u know nothing about skill
RogueNine's game on The Right Way rachman!
Roel's movie is the best play I have ever seen, cause it was not a casuallity, like many other movies.Flips are too easy, but this jump has been the best engine I have ever seen here. My 3 votes for him...
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks rachman!
Woow!! thanx for that!! I knew that the key was the end of the map, but never tried to reach it... Maybe one day...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way You Qi
maybe make it only those who completed all the built-in game only can vote?
Tricky Time Trial rachman!
That's right!
Up stairs Time Trial rachman!
Ok You Qi, Check it up!
Hill Time Trial rachman!
The key is in the lower part of the map. There's where I lost time.
Square Time Trial rachman!
Wow!! that was Awesome!! Mis respetos Compadre!!
Bottle Time Trial rachman!
Published... but there's no so much to see...

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Golden Gate Time Trial rachman!
Yeah, well... some 'tricks' are easy to copy and improve, but... this one is almost impossible!! Try it to know what I'm saying.
I'd just like if somebody beat me with my routine, please show his movie ok?
rachman!'s game on Golden Gate rachman!
Yeah, I know... I doesn't look so spectacular... but is very hard!!
Vanilla Sky Time Trial rachman!
Shure I'll do... but no now, homework to do...
Aleksey's game on Cablecar OrR
Great stuff!
OrR's game on Loop 3 OrR
How did you know?
OrR's game on OrR's Cave OrR
I love this level... I'm quite amazed myself how well it plays and what cool moves you have to use to finish it...
Aleksey's game on Cablecar You Qi
Well, it's nice!
Golden Gate Time Trial You Qi
ok! but I bet I can't beat ur score!
theONE's game on Big Cheese OrR
rachman!'s game on Golden Gate Dags
Nice one Rachman! Thanks for sharing.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way [cz]lalal
Nice one
Aleksey's game on Cablecar Dags
LOL!! Nice one Aleksey! Love that "Mercedes Hang" there.
Volcano's game on Pipe Universe Dags
Lol! that really made me laugh - great caption there Volcano!
Xtreme mega's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
doh!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MATA
I mean taht is not fair for roel, because people like Rachman, or others who OBVIOUSLY know how to play know that coming up with that jump is amazingly HARD! and that same people knows that the routine that is now in first place, isnt THAT HARD,far away from roel´s by the way... it can be copied too any time! If there aren ´t ghost votes, isn´t rogue nine fault to be in fist place. The sad thing is that EXCELENT ROUTINES like roel´s could be forgotten beacause cheaters. thts why some kind of new rules are needed for keeping freestyle medal IMPORTANCE!!!Im going now to give my 3 votes to roel...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MATA
And freestyle is not what NUMBER of tricks you do in a round.In wheel insider you can do 20 summersaults in a row. Is the quality of the total number of tricks you did, doesnt matter it its only ONE!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
Roel copied off of some other dude's idea and just did it faster... LOSER- ROUGE all the way!!!!!
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
AWESOME!
bb_fighters's game on Wheel Insider theONE
WOW...
SDC's game on Downhill Madness theONE
big ass lucky... but still AWESOME!

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rachman!'s game on Golden Gate Oliver
Rachman, you're very good...
You really deserve compliments.
Downhill Madness Time Trial Volcano
omg post moviees
theONE's game on The Well theONE
very kool...
Dags's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
this isnt even fast!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Dags
Mata - what's not fair for Roel? It's perfectly fair - have you watched Rougue's freestyle carefully? I agree that just spinning on the spot ain't good freestyle but have you tried to copy Rogue's? Have you copied Roel's? Yep Roel's was great as he discovered this new way to complete the level but it's not as good a freestyle as Rogue's especially as everyone can do it. Well done Roel you did a great job and good luck. Same to Rogue which is more unique and interesting in my opinion. Rogue gets all 3 of my votes.
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
Well, I have finished my levelpack! hope Sz likes it and will be up here soon.
Master KO's Levels cmck
How did they get Pic 50???????
SooHyunKim's game on Clay Serpent theONE
who votes for this?!?!?!?!
Freestyle Competition theONE
im goin for #1... big cheese with more than 40 flips, check it out!
Freestyle Competition theONE
no, i think u should hav to be in the top 250... top 200 is 2 strick(im 66, YES!)
Billy's game on Sinus Mountains theONE
kool
Volcano's game on Pipe Universe theONE
wow, lets all vote for a glitch...
DavidE's game on Riding School Part 2 theONE
ok...
AndyFong424's game on Wheel Insider theONE
the flips touch the wall! BOO, BOO, BOO!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
dags is right, and look how COOL (yes it cool, c'mon... except it u evil bas*rd)its better than a COPIER!! that means u ROEL!

in other words:
roel
rouge 9
carlo's game on The Right Way theONE
wtf?
Tatra Time Trial OrR
Wow... There are a lot of levelpacks recently... Complete (I hope) list at:
http://www.emuboards.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=17198
RogueNine's game on The Right Way OrR
theONE, you are stupid. ROEL had the original idea for that stunt. Everyone else is a copier.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MATA
I bet you I could copy rogues routine easily, and I have copied Roels routine too, thats why I post this opinion, roels is old. And i meant that It would be not fair for roel if some of the votes of rogue are of ghost users. And I know that you DAGS, could copy rogue´s routine whenever you wanted.. you are a good player too. And if you still want to vote for rogue... well, finally is your choice.. but what isnt ok, is that rogues routine is winning beacause votings of people like the one, who just offends, and says that roels routine wasnt original. ASK TOP TEN WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT ROELS WHEN THEY FIRST SAW IT!!!
SDC's game on Downhill Madness RogueNine
I completely appriciate how hard it was to pull this off. you get all three of mine. (i took about 2 minutes to finish this one ;>

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Tatra Time Trial You Qi
Well, my levelpack will remain secret. But I love to play my levelpack so much! So tough(a bit ) until I addicted to it!
Bird Time Trial You Qi
Why not adding an obstacle? more lively and logic.
Oliver's game on Golden Gate Oliver
courtesy of rachman. very tough...
but i think this can be finish in 29 sec
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
maybe you can do a flip on the bricks before the three wedge...i've been trying to do it but no success.
Freestyle Competition You Qi
I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTING JudgeDredd IDEA!
Freestyle Competition You Qi
and btw, if using JudgeDredd idea, then we can submit maybe a few freestyles. coz when made a new freestyle, I have no idea to post it except from cancelling my current freestyle.
Freestyle Competition Dags
I'm with You Qi and Judge Dredd on this one. It's an excellent idea. The only prob I can see if one ride gets voted once as a ten won't it go automatically top?
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Dags
Nicely said Mata! No hard feelings maye - you like Roel's and so do I. Read my comment when he first posted it. I originally voted for it. It's still number 2 which isn't bad at all. I just find Rogues more interesting. We'll have to agree to disagree. Oh and The One, thanks for trying to back me up but cut the b******t mate, Roel invented that move first as can be clearly seen, so stop slagging him off - he deserves more than that. It was a great find - sit back and appreciate it.
Touch Bricks Time Trial You Qi
33.36 not bad too!

I have open my movie to everyone.
Freestyle Competition cmck
Is their a new level pack out soon?
rachman!'s game on Up stairs You Qi
same to me.
Up stairs Time Trial You Qi
tq rachman!

finally I got it!
You Qi's game on Up stairs You Qi
you know something? I played this map for 2days and 8hours non-stop to get completed <34sec.

what I can say to this map, another luck game.

Up stairs Time Trial You Qi
Well, this is another luck map for me.
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!

After 12days of hardworking, finally I bet rachman!

someone congratulation to me before he beat me?
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial You Qi
Well, I got my 16sec.
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
is Volcano and MATA friend?
RogueNine's game on The Right Way You Qi
for me Rogue freestyle is too easy. if you try ur own, you will find that using backward to move is more easy than facing frontward to move.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way You Qi
and if you request rachman to open his "Level 6 - The Right Way" for me for sure will be more interesting than this!
SDC's game on Downhill Madness You Qi
so, RogueNine is still here? means it's so obvious that........

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SinkInToDrinks Time Trial GPolice
Is that cuz 3 people beat you? hehe
Rouch's game on Riding School GPolice
Being the best public game for riding school, this is pretty good
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 GPolice
Lol awesome
SiuLun's Levels rachman!
Yeah!! I have to say Congratulations!!!
But I think you could make more, cause I'm too close and 1st place will fly of your hands...
Roel's game on Underground Volcano
Got my vote, this should put you in your rightful position
Loop 2 Time Trial rachman!
Yeah , jeje, Im sure of it, and it's valid! I have a friend here from Guadalajara too, but he is in... 31st position...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way rachman!
It's open.. maybe is not very spectacular, but is more difficult than Rogue's.
rachman!'s game on The Right Way JudgeDredd
Nice run indeed, very fast. But not what I call good "FREESTYLE"!
Square Time Trial rachman!
Tanks to Volcano, gave me the idea...
Touch Bricks Time Trial Allen
Finally I did it!! 23/49, ok for me,hehe~
OrR's Levels Allen
This level is too tough, I just can finish 3 levels
Square Time Trial You Qi
wow!!! 14sec!
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
now 4 points is too much for me to catch up.
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
oh, ic.

btw, 19sec. this is too fake.
rachman!'s game on Square Dags
Superb!
Master KO's Levels cmck
vas how did u grt those pics(50,51,52)??????
Master KO's Levels cmck
:N;
Master KO's Levels cmck
Oops
rachman!'s game on OrR's Cave GPolice
Hehe, Awesome. I love the beginning
Aleksey's game on Cablecar theONE
wow, y did u vote for this?

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Fly! Time Trial GPolice
Bah!! I keep messing up the ending, I can't like flip off the rail (I started calling stuff you hook onto with one wheel rails, pick up my terminology )
Fly! Time Trial GPolice
Can I have a hint lol. When I hook on with my front wheel, I can't reach the end. When I hook on with my back wheel, I can't flip off the rail
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
go for the first PAGE... #1 #1 #1 ;0
Powerman's game on Big Cheese theONE
;0
Powerman's game on Big Cheese theONE
:0:9
Roel's game on Underground theONE
hey ROEL...
Roel=
rouge 9=
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Right then, This is how you do it... Now I just gotta do it... Less bad
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Hehehe, in an attempt to do this level faster, I got on upside down. First time i did this
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Hey I'm the only public movie under 30 seconds. Look at me everyone!
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
18 Seconds, jeez Rachman! Well I'm the only fairly quick public game! Look at me and go 'oooooooh' I'm getting better at this and this is fast becoming one of my favorite levels
GPolice's game on Fly! OrR
Hehe, finally someone shows us! Thanks!
OrR's Levels OrR
I thought the same thing about your levels... And I still can't beat Zip-Zap...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Maybe now that their god is back in first, they'll shut up and go away. Hey, miracles can happen.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
BTW. I'm uploading a new freestyle recording soon. Anyone who feels so inclined please vote.
Freestyle Competition JudgeDredd
Dags, not if the advrage was based on the number of people that have voted instead of just the number of people who voted for that ride.

Example: 5 rides submitted. 25 people rank the rides from 1 to 10. This means that there are 250 votes available. Ride "A" has 3 people that rank the ride at 6 points each. Ride "B" has 5 people that rank the ride at 4 points each. Ride "C" has 2 people that rank the ride at 10 points each. Ride "D" has 10 people that rank the ride at 5 points each. Ride "E" has 5 people that rank the ride at 2 points each.

Ride A would have (3*6/250 =) 7.2%
Ride B would have (5*4/250 =) 8%
Ride C would have (2*10/250=) 8%
Ride D would have (10*5/250=) 20%
Ride E would have (5*2/250=) 4%

Or something like this.
Dags's game on Up stairs theONE
nice
Cave 2 Time Trial You Qi
wondering what's the hint for 11sec.
Square Time Trial Volcano
rachman i hate you soooooo much =P
Rouch's game on Riding School Rouch
There are no secret for this game, just try and try and try, you just spare time during the directions changes
Master KO's Levels You Qi
I think those is advance bitmap insert format. you need to edit the resource file.

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Freestyle Competition You Qi
Sz idle quite a time. he didn't reply my email also...
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Look at that shiny bronze medal! Lol, heres the public game for you to see
Sawtooth Time Trial theONE
damn this levewl
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
fine everyone be aagainst me, GO ROUGE!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
i right i just watched roels and looked through alot of the other runs and his is the first, sry bout the false crap... my fault but it still stands

foel=:<
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
sry i meant roel= jealously!
Cemetery Time Trial theONE
the details r great... the hand is awesome
GPolice's game on Fly! theONE
nicee
Time Trial Champions theONE
wat a bum
Floors Time Trial rachman!
There is a little hole where you can pass...
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 RogueNine
um, yeah.
rachman!'s game on The Right Way rachman!
Yeah, I don't discuss that...
Up stairs Time Trial rachman!
Yeah, I dont like luck maps...
OrR's Cave Time Trial rachman!
Who can do 42 secs?
Loop 3 Time Trial rachman!
Well done You Qi!!
rachman!'s game on Cave 2 rachman!
I thoght that too.. Even faster is possible...
Cave 2 Time Trial rachman!
Maybe this helps you...
GPolice's game on Fly! rachman!
You got it!!! Congratulations!!
GPolice's game on Fly! Dags
Nice one G! Thanks for sharing.
GPolice's game on Fly! You Qi
yup. Congratulations!

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Freestyle Competition rachman!
I agree about giving a rating level to the freestyles, but for me the important thing is that people who votes should have at least 5 submissions. JudgeDredd, when Sz said 5 submissions he didn't mean 5 freestyle submissions. It would be nice unlimited Qty of qualifications, but only one per freestyle, obviusly.
And finally, I don't know what you think, for eliminate games that has nothing of freestyle, in the 1-10 qualify options add one more called "eliminate" wich if 10 or 20 players qualify such, game dissapear of ranking. Maybe add a condition if the game has an average of points don't dissapear(this to avoid cheaters to eliminate good games).
Well, this are some ideas, but the last word is Sz's.I Think we should respect what he decides.
rachman!'s game on The Right Way You Qi
hope you dont beat me back... I need a medal for standard levelpack. thx!
Vanilla Sky Time Trial You Qi
I say 39sec is possible.
OrR's Cave Time Trial Rouch
I think it's possible to make it quicker than 44 sec with "my way", but for that you need a good driver like Rachman because I'm not enough trained
Vanilla Sky Time Trial You Qi
see? I did it!
Sawtooth Time Trial You Qi
yeah.. damn it.
Loop 3 Time Trial You Qi
thx! but I think you can done better than me.
Cave 2 Time Trial You Qi
wow! thx!
Loop 1 Time Trial You Qi
I think 35sec is possible.
Cemetery Time Trial You Qi
yeah yeah.. nice color combination for both land and sky also! good level!
Powerman's game on Fly! Xtreme mega
wow
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider Xtreme mega
how is this ahead of me... check out mine (#5)
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider theONE
i vote for #5, u should 2
Roel's game on Underground theONE
alright ill shut up... ur is th best my vote will go to u...
Vanilla Sky Time Trial GPolice
Haha, Nice You Qi
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Im getting better

Did this with one hand on the phone
GPolice's game on Bottle GPolice
10 minutes of flipping
GPolice's game on Bottle GPolice
I got bored one day!
Floors Time Trial You Qi
? REALLY? mind to show it?
nickwalt's game on Downhill Madness theONE
u got mine, because its not luck!

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theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
keep the votes coming, any time now... hurry up...
Malysz Time Trial You Qi
41sec is possible. but is very very very hard.
Bird Time Trial You Qi
Whole page secret? WOW!
Bird Time Trial You Qi
Dags, is this your 1st secret game?
GPolice's game on Fly! You Qi
hey! I dont ever think it can be done like this. good job!
Nik's game on Touch Bricks Nik
47 flips in only 1 min.
Nik's game on Touch Bricks Nik
NICE
carlo's game on Wheel Insider You Qi
tq for the movie.
Wheel Insider Time Trial You Qi
perfect game? maybe.
OrR's Cave Time Trial You Qi
wow, Rouch! dont even try to make faster with ur route before... last time I use that route got 54sec. yeah... I think It can done faster... btw, you are good, try to play a few more hours maybe you can get a better result.
OrR's Cave Time Trial Rouch
Thanks You Qi, I try, I try, I do my best but I'm sure that you and Rachman can make a really good time with this way
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe GPolice
Rachman? French? Lol
Aleksey's game on Cablecar Ruben
Wow. Really amazing.
Spike Cave Time Trial Volcano
omg post movie some1 below 40s how the hell did u manage 36s

Spike Cave Time Trial Oliver
do it the other way around...
Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial Oliver
how did you come up with 23?, i can only make it 25... you're good
Pipe Universe Time Trial Oliver
nothing is really permanent in this world...
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes rachman!
Mmm.. I wrote without trying... but thanx for the hint.
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial rachman!
15 secs possible!!
OrR's Cave Time Trial rachman!
In fact, before seeing your movie, I was trying this route this weekend... and I see you did it first...
I got it faster, but you did what I call the "must be another way", and that's the good thing! Congratulations!

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Floors Time Trial rachman!
Ok!! Maybe after I show you, I'll lose my gold medal, but it feels better showing you how I did it than having a secret medal gold medal
You Qi's game on U Jump Sena
WHAT THE!!!
rachman!'s game on OrR's Cave You Qi
Good job!
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial You Qi
wow! nice!
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial You Qi
yeah... hard to believe. rachman show up something impossible everytime.
Pipe Universe Time Trial Oliver
i'm wrong...the're one thing that's permanent...CHANGE...
Jurassic Parking Time Trial You Qi
I almost got 37sec!
OrR's Cave Time Trial Rouch
I was sure that you will explode the time. Same road than I, but 3 sec less
There is something I always want to make statistics, for everybody what is your Palm gaming device ?
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
lol... If I have time I will get back my Spike Cave and Cloudwalk gold medals from you!
OrR's Cave Time Trial You Qi
Well, mine is UX50. Rachman using Treo600. btw, tips for you... try playing in HiRes+Outline setting for some maps.. you can control your bike more better.
Spike Cave Time Trial You Qi
hehe.. Oliver, good job! It is already hard for me to get 37sec.
Big Cheese Time Trial You Qi
Hey! Clue for 54sec pls... I dont think is the current 1min route you are using.
Big Cheese Time Trial You Qi
oops... lol... I didn't see rachman already post the movie for everyone to see.
Floors Time Trial You Qi
lol... okok... I use my cloudwalk silver medal for the exchange.
Cloudwalk Time Trial You Qi
29sec, here it is! (I know I'm not the #1)
rachman!'s game on Floors You Qi
thank you rachman!
OrR's Cave Time Trial Rouch
Thanks for the tip, I will try, just forget to say that I use a Tungsten T3, and find the keys not very conveniant specialy with my bigs fingers
rachman!'s game on Floors Lee
ooooo well spotted, I hadn't seen this possiblity.... thanks for sharing!
rachman!'s game on Golden Gate Lee
Heck... you should put this in the Freestyle competition!
but then... there are lots of your medals that should go in the freestyle competition....

Nice one!

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Lee's game on Touch Bricks Lee
I wasn't as quick through the first section, but I managed to make the jump!
I think that you better players might be able to use this as part of your routine!
Lee's game on U Jump Lee
I thought this was an interesting way to run through.
Could have been better on picking up the 3rd Flag, I think.... too much time in the air.
Lee's game on Sawtooth Lee
Frustrating... you just have to do everything right, and nail the collection of the last flag....
Could be a lot quicker!
Lee's game on The Right Way Lee
I love playing this level
rachman!'s game on OrR's Cave GPolice
Impressive, you always find a way to get a second or 2 better than before
Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial GPolice
Hehe, I like this level. I can beat it lol
rachman!'s game on Sleeps With The Fishes GPolice
Very good
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks GPolice
Great for such a hard level, thanks for the vid
The Well Time Trial GPolice
12,80 =-o
Medals by Country GPolice
Im 1/2 The USA's bronze medals w00t.

Hey i'm also 1/2 the USA! lol
Cave Time Trial GPolice
15 Second gap between the first 4 places, people have room for improvement here hehe.

Ok i'll shut up until I can make 1:15
Wheel Insider Time Trial GPolice
Is there ever a perfect game?
GPolice's game on Wheel Insider GPolice
Yes! I jumped for joy at my time, I've had trouble getting below 14 seconds. Top 10 booya !
Pipe Universe Time Trial Oliver
yeah...i think you're on the momentum now...nice job..
Big Cheese Time Trial Oliver
same as rachman, but a little faster :b
Cloudwalk Time Trial rachman!
Thanks for the movie...
rachman!'s game on Floors rachman!
you're welcome!
Floors Time Trial rachman!
Thank you very much, You Qi!
OrR's Cave Time Trial rachman!
Well... Do I say you something? I love your Hi-res devices!! My Treo 600 is confortable and very convenient for having a few of all, but I think there's nothing like a Hi-res device!
Malysz Time Trial rachman!
VERY hard!!!

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Cloudwalk Time Trial You Qi
welcome.
OrR's Cave Time Trial You Qi
UX50 actually is not very good... you will know when you accelerate using the keyboard... you got a hole and pain in ur thumb just after a few minutes of playing.
Touch Bricks Time Trial You Qi
Lee, you are back!
Lee's game on Touch Bricks You Qi
hey, thx for sharing!
Double Sprint Time Trial You Qi
<23sec seems hard for me.
Lee's game on Touch Bricks Lee
Well, I have only manages to make the jump twice, so good luck!
Michael's game on Bird Michael
This is what I call "Flipping the Bird"!
Floors Time Trial rachman!
Bye Bye, My pretty gold medal...
Lee's game on Jurassic Parking You Qi
This is the routine which can get 37sec!
rachman!'s game on Golden Gate You Qi
yeah... rachman got too many freestyle standard replays... hence he can't post all of them up.
Loop 1 Time Trial You Qi
wow! I did it again!
Cablecar Time Trial Powerman
I hate this lev.
Lee's game on Double Sprint You Qi
is hard to do the bounce..
Jump Over Time Trial You Qi
wow... rachman hold this level medal already quite sometimes...
You Qi's game on U Jump Ruben
Man you were lucky. That is weird but you got really lucky and it would have been better if you had finished.
GPolice's game on Pipe Universe GPolice
13? Wtf I suck at this level
OrR's Cave Time Trial GPolice
Wow, You Qi, I didn't even know about the Outline setting. Wow the game runs faster now hehe.
Loop 3 Time Trial GPolice
This irritates me lol, I always screw up the jump between the loop and the rail
Pipe Universe Time Trial rachman!
I like more this word: "EVOLUTION"
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
WOW! You made another "impossible" record!

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palmstamp.com Time Trial You Qi
wow! 14sec!
SiuLun's Levels You Qi
I got no.1 again.
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Aleksey
Bike'O'Fish 2
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
109 FLIPS SIMULTANIOUSLY!!! I BEAT 40!!! VOTE FOR THIS!!!!!
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
109 CONTINUOUS FLIPS!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!! VOTE FOR THIS!!!!!

I DEFINATLY BEAT OUT THE OTHER GAME WITH ONLY 40 FLIPS IN ONE MINUTE!!! VOTE NOW!
OrR's Cave Time Trial OrR
Get a Zodiac!
Cablecar Time Trial OrR
lol, sorry... This is not the fun version...
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
I....I sa- ..... I SAid to vote for it. This definatley beats that other one by alot. C'mon!
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12012

HAHA! I BEAT YOU! I GOT 109 FLIPS CONTINUOUSLY!!!
Roel's game on Underground torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12012
!

109 continuous flips! Beats out the one in the same level on the 1st page where the guy only got 40!
(Big Cheese)
Roel's game on Underground torrobinson
Oh ya, and since I can't vote for my own game, then you have my vote!

PS: I spent 3 weeks trying to copy what you did, and gave up finally! GREAT JOB!
Freestyle Competition torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12012
!!!!
Beats out the current #8 freestyule! I did the same thing, but lasted for ***109*** flips, unlike the *cough bad cough* 40.

VOTE NOW PLEASE!
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12012

How about 109 flips?
Lee's game on Jurassic Parking Lee
I am pretty happy with the right side... especially the kick that the front wheel gets off the top of the van, to throw me to the left, but I still feel really slow over the 2 cars! - in both directions.
U Jump Time Trial Lee
I would be interested to see how the faster times were done, because I think my way is pretty quick... I just didn't do it well as it could be done.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Lee
How?
Stingray's game on Double Sprint You Qi
I did it too!
Standard Levels You Qi
heh~ I think I'm the 1st 1 who beaten rachman in this standard levels pack!
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes You Qi
nice!
Standard Levels rachman!
You are!!! Good Job!

Mmmm... I had lost care of this level pack...

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Standard Levels You Qi
same to me as well, I just saw MATA is chasing my score hence I use up all my time to make a distance between me and him.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese theONE
damn copier, anyway it was 42 in 1 min... FAGGOT
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
hey, loser... yours was in a lot longer, FAGOT!
Standard Levels Dags
Well done You Qi!!
Bird Time Trial Dags
Nope - prob my last though - which brings up a point! I don't mind secret games for medals but why do so many people leave their games as secrets? If you are down in 8th what's the point? I share all of mine so that others can have a shot and I wish some more would do so too. I respect Rachman, Aleksey and You Qi cos they often share their times.
Pipe Universe Time Trial Dags
Hey Rachman I would love to see this one!! Any chance you'll share it. I still consider this level to be the all time hardest level to do well in. A true test on a Bike or Dier's ability if you will.
Touch Bricks Time Trial Dags
Aye and he's chasing me and DDMac - gulp! Time to go back to standard me thinks.
Lee's game on Touch Bricks Dags
Damn - I have never managed this once - I hate this level!! Did I tell you guys this before? Good job Lee!
Lee's game on Floors Dags
Nice one! Really smooth!
rachman!'s game on Floors Dags
Rachman! Put this up for freestyle!!
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
HAHAH! I JUST DID IT AGAIN FOR 5 MINUTES! HAHAA
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
313 flips in 5 minutes!
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
Hey loser,
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067

313 FLIPS IN A ROW!


What do you mean by "Yours was longer" I DONT CARE, NOBODY CARES

YOU DIDNT LAST FOR MORE THAN A MINUTE, IS WHAT YOUR SAYING!


I WIN, YOU LOSE, FACE IT, "FAGGOT"


BTW: Faggot has 2 "g"s.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
theONE: Dont get jealous now
Lee's game on Touch Bricks Lee
I used to have real problems with the hop along the top platforms, until I discovered popping a wheelie, then tapping the brake to get the height
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Lee
guys.. c'mon, I mean, does it get any more boring that iether doing, or watching this rubbish!
Freestyle Competition Lee
Re Submissions - freeloaders who only have the first 5 levels should be excluded from "trying out" with a submission... so yes, exclude anyone with only 5 or less "best times".

Voting..... At the moment, you get bored of the leader, but you still think it's cool, yet have to cancel your vote.

Ranking would be better... as discuused, on a percentage of opinions cast through the whole section sounds sensible, but I am not a statistician, so I can't argue one way or the other on the best option.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
w00+ ... 1 g0+ 313 |= |_ | P 5 !
VOTE PLEASE!. It hard to comprehend why theONE only managed to do 42.5 in a row, while i have done 313, and have not one vote!
Nose Time Trial MATA
JAJAJA, APENAS COMPADRE!!!! tratare de mejorarlo, aunque es complicadon...
Tatra Time Trial MATA
SURPRISE! a hard one....

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Sqare Time Trial GPolice
I thought it was meant to be done 'cablecar style' It seems to be a theme in this levelpack
Tatra Time Trial rachman!
Bien hecho compadre!
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067

or my 313 flips?
Freestyle Competition torrobinson
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067


BOO YA! 313 FLIPS! THI SHOULD REPLACE THE CRAPPY ONE ON 1st PAGE!
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson


http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067



SAME THING, BUT 273 MORE FLIPS IN A ROW! SWITCH YOUR VOTES NOW, AND LEAVE THIS LOSER IN MY TRACKS!

Spike Cave Time Trial rachman!
Hey!! I hadn't seen the way you did it!! Thanks Oliver! Thanks Lee!!... Maybe I get a better time...
Bird Time Trial rachman!
Thanks Dags. There are several reasons because people leave their movies in secret. Some of them for strategy, another for keeping a secret, and some others because there's nothing new to see...
Personally, I leave them secret as an strategy, but some others I do it for letting people use the engine.
In spite of that, I've never denied to publicate any movie when someone's need help, or ask for it.
Bird Time Trial rachman!
By the way, I've publicised(is this well written?) level 25, Standard Levels.
Pipe Universe Time Trial rachman!
Well, because public asked for it ... I agree about this is the level wich has more ways and variaances to finish it. A very cool level.
Pipe Universe Time Trial rachman!
49 secs is possible...
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Just like this... I like more my 59sec's routine, but this spend less time.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Haha, by the way, I always thought and tried this routine and resigned that it was impossible... But Voila!!
Bird Time Trial Dags
Thanks Rachman - you are a true sportsman.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Dags
Nice one rachman! I often tried to do it this way but always messed up the jump coming back but you have confirmed that it can be done and it is the fastest way. Thanks for sharing.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Dags
Well said Lee. This is neither skillful or in any way interesting to watch.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Dags
It's hard to comprehend why doing this should get any votes at all for you or theONE. Try something original if you want votes.
Riding School Time Trial Dags
Finally I made it in under 30 secs.
Dags's game on Double Sprint Dags
Something a bit different with a different finish too.
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
I knowit unoriginal, but apparently, 5 people have votes on it. So 5 people like what he did. So it hard to comprehend the reason that if 5 people like 40 flips, why they dont like 313.
Dags's game on Double Sprint torrobinson
Needs to more original. I could not comprehend why this should get votes.

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Dags's game on Double Sprint torrobinson
*be*
slavko's game on The Well theONE
nice...
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese theONE
mine is boring to... but this just sux!
Bottle Time Trial theONE
evil bottle, cant u just die!
Purple Palace Time Trial theONE
the colors r... different but still, another nice level
Moon Madness Time Trial theONE
how did u get the pic of the earth on it?
Dags's game on Double Sprint Dags
LOL! torrobinson - how original of you.
Dags's game on Double Sprint torrobinson
THANXXXXORRS!!!!!!!
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
WHY DOES THIS STILL HAVE VOTES!

THIS BEATS IT BY FAR!!!!!
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067

torrobinson's game on Big Cheese theONE
wow... i still dont no y people voted4 mine, so y should they vote 4 u?
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe theONE
ive been trying this strategy for weeks now but i cant seem to get the 2nd to last flag!
rachman!'s game on Floors theONE
kool...:/
Lee's game on Floors theONE
nice...
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
hey torobinson, GET A FREAKIN life loser, i still have no clue y people voted for me, but anyway stop copping and go hav fun on your piece of crud site(which i may add for no1 to go see)
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 theONE
HOLY SH*t!!!!
Standard Levels theONE
kool... sum1 beat him
Riding School Time Trial theONE
how sooo fast?!?!?!
Master KO's Levels theONE
the best levels for bike or die... so creative and so many designs!
Cloudwalk Time Trial theONE
looks more like whip cream, MMmmm... whipped cream
You Qi's game on Cloudwalk theONE
how?

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Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial theONE
so annoying
rachman!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
how?
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe theONE
this is AWESOME!
rachman!'s game on Golden Gate theONE
defintly freestyle...
Nose Time Trial GPolice
Why can't I beat this level lol
Freestyle Competition theONE
freestyle is now aq dead art... the stuff people vote for(like mine) r crud!
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese theONE
ill say it again on urs" hey torobinson, GET A FREAKIN life loser, i still have no clue y people voted for me, but anyway stop copping and go hav fun on your piece of crud site(which i may add for no1 to go see)"
Loop 1 Time Trial GPolice
35 :-o wow
Touch Bricks Time Trial theONE
die level, i hate u almsost as much as i hate tetris!
Lee's game on Spike Cave Lee
Very lucky not to wipe out at the end here
Touch Bricks Time Trial Lee
You Qui.... Aye, I am back, but palm synch still not working... so I can only play the Standard levels, and I am downloading them off the SD Card!
Standard Levels Lee
Nice one You Qi!..... though Rahman sounds serious now!
Man, what a great game!... it wouldn't be half as good without this cool web site, iether!
Spike Cave Time Trial You Qi
my 37sec is did it from top to down....
Philip's game on Underground Philip
Eu sou muito foda.
Dags's game on Double Sprint Dags
5 tricks. An enjoyable jaunt in the snow. Just seeing what I could pull off.
Freestyle Competition Dags
I agree - it would be good to see people pulling off some deliberate moves instead of some of the lucky stuff we see these days.
OrR's Cave Time Trial Rouch
You are right You Qi !!! With the outline settings the game is nearly completly different. Amazing even the bike doesn't react the same way. Now I have to do again all the levels to try to get some better score
Powerman's game on Fly! Dags
Hehe! Nice one Powerman - good flaw to find in the physics there.
You Qi's game on Spike Cave Lee
That is pretty much perfect for running that way.... nice one!
Drew's game on Malysz Drew
I actually just rushed through this while I was on the bus. -Drew

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GPolice's game on Bird GPolice
Lol its better than last. My joystick broke while trying to beat this level so i had to do it the long way :'(
GPolice's game on Riding School GPolice
Why are you even looking at this, it need improvement!
Downhill Madness Time Trial GPolice
This levels the bomb, the whole luck thing is great (Or I suppose you can go down it without flying... but wheres the fun)
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Oliver
thanks for sharing. i'm thinking the last flag to get is the topmost, but find it hard doing that way. now i have the change to beat you . thanks again...
The Well Time Trial Lee
12.80! Heck, that's pretty much a free-fall time!
Show us how you did it... there's not many tricks left to give away on this one is there?
The Well Time Trial Lee
12.80! Heck, that's pretty much a free-fall time!
Show us how you did it... there's not many tricks left to give away on this one is there?
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Yeah, I tought that possibility, and could be easier(maybe). Let me try and I'll keep you informed.
Spike Cave Time Trial rachman!
I just added it my touch...
Wheel Insider Time Trial rachman!
More perfect game!!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
No, forget it, maybe possible, but no faster...
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Oliver
k, thanks
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe rachman!
Wow!! so you did this routine first! jaja, now i see how you beat me each time! well done!
OrR's Cave Time Trial You Qi
actually most of my game play in solid setting instead of outline. good luck on trying beating my score!
Spike Cave Time Trial Lee
Just a touch.... and there go 2 seconds! - that is quite a touch you have there!
Riding School Time Trial MATA
I wonder how Sdil completed this routine in 27 seconds. its a shame that he doesn´t play any more. He only played standard levels.
flip's game on palmstamp.com flip
so i saw these shapes, and i figured it would make a good place to have fun and do some flips....turns out i could do a couple more than the game can handle. i'm not planning on winning anything, but i figured others might enjoy it as well.... thanks..
flip's game on palmstamp.com flip
FLIP 'TIL IMPLODE........ don't worry it doesn't take all day.... but it's worth checking out. it took some serious timing to be able to spin on the M..also zoom in if you can...
Bottle Time Trial torrobinson
Rackman, the whole "winning" thing got really old. Seriously. It's not even funny any more.

WELL, ACTUALLY IT IS.


i JUST LIED ABOUT THAT
and that


......
and that...


..and that
and thatand that
and that
and that
and that
and that
and that
Lee's game on U Jump Lee
Anyone Else using this route?
Golden Gate Time Trial Lee
Right, this took me about 40 go's... I'm not doing it again!

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Bottle Time Trial GPolice
0.34 second different between the first 20 spots. Hehe, this will be tough to advance in
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe GPolice
Wow, awesome again
Wheel Insider Time Trial GPolice
Lol, you stand corrected You Qi!
Sawtooth Time Trial GPolice
This level gets no love! Top 10 is between 30 and 23,50. Improve on this people!
Lee's game on Sawtooth GPolice
Not a bad show, tough luck with that last spin on the end.
Lee's game on U Jump rachman!
Wow Lee!!!
I thougth I had seen everything!! Be sure your routine will be the most used to get a better time. Congrats!
Lee's game on U Jump Lee
I am not worthy.... thanks...
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
i think this would be my best game for this level...
flip's game on palmstamp.com Dags
Absolutely Brilliant!! That mad me LAUGH!!!
What a wierd thing to discover - scored one vote
Pierre Nico's game on The Well Pierre Nico
it's not already clean but am improving it see ya
Underground Time Trial GPolice
Its too hard!
Lee's game on Spike Cave GPolice
Hehe Nice finish
Freestyle Competition torrobinson
I agree too. Everything we see is random.
If anything, actual TRCIKS should be added in, not just flips.
Freestyle Competition torrobinson
I agree too. Everything we see is random.
If anything, actual TRCIKS should be added in, not just flips.
Jalil's game on Double Sprint Jalil
NOt the best yet!
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe You Qi
whao!! I like ur flipping at the right bottom corner! nice!
Vanilla Sky Time Trial You Qi
wow! seems rachman discovered the idea to get 39sec!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe theONE
howw did u do it...
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
:0 : 0
:9 : 9
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE

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Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
;>
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
:/
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
;/
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
Gavin's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
Freestyle Competition theONE
mmmm... smilies




Freestyle Competition theONE
ranking should be based monthly and u should b able to keeep your medal, and u need to be like in the top 250 place, 5 submissions is easy to do it only takes like 20 mins, a sync, and then u can vote, so its pretty complicated but still... FREESTYLE is a dead art!
U Jump Time Trial Oliver
thanks lee, less than 21sec is possible
Oliver's game on U Jump Oliver
Lee style...
Oliver's game on Golden Gate Oliver
rachman style...
rachman!'s game on U Jump rachman!
Thanks to Lee... I had to make some adjustments.
rachman!'s game on U Jump Lee
nicely done..... didn't think of that!
U Jump Time Trial Lee
I am going to regret this... now I see why all the good players keep their best times a secret!
Underground Time Trial rachman!
Gracias por compartilo compadre!!
Underground Time Trial c.i....
Rachman, usted habla Espanol? Bueno.. Yo pensó como mucho... Como tú está de Mexico... Soy de Estados Unidos, pero pienso que soy bien a hablando Espanol
U Jump Time Trial You Qi
lol... not too late!
Lee's game on U Jump You Qi
very tought for me.
Lee's game on U Jump You Qi
*tough
Chaz's game on Sinus Mountains Chaz
Too busy trying to bust flips to get to the end of the level!!!

Sorry it's rubbish,but i've just purchased it&have been playing it non-stop since!
The Well Time Trial GPolice
Lee you've seen what happens when you make your great games public

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Sawtooth Time Trial GPolice
I'm studying Lee and You Qi right now. I can't even get under 30 at the moment bah!
You Qi's game on Cloudwalk GPolice
Wow, nice finish
Omaha Beach Time Trial GPolice
26 seconds?? I think i might be over the second X thing in 26 seconds... Publisize something under 40!!
SinkInToDrinks Time Trial GPolice
I guess I stand corrected. Good job
Vertical Avenue Time Trial GPolice
Very hard level to do 'correctly' and quickly
Konecnik Down Time Trial GPolice
Much tougher than Konecnik, in my opinion :-p
Konecnik Time Trial GPolice
Considering the countless amount of levels like this, I like this one the best
Dags's game on Bike O'Clock GPolice
Good job, thanks for the movie
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe The Two
The end is a smart guy and i agree... if youre really French lol
theONE's game on Big Cheese The Two
torrobinson just give it up.. youll never win... french bastards never win
theONE's game on Big Cheese The Two
i was just joking about the last comment
Bike Impossible Time Trial GPolice
Great level, whats with all the 'extra stuff' under it though hehehe
GPolice's game on Bike Impossible GPolice
Wow, im the only public game? You people are nuts
Zip-Zap Time Trial GPolice
Vile level!
SDC's game on Downhill Madness The Two
crud.... that was the second luckiest thing i ever seen
You Qi's game on U Jump The Two
that.. my friends.. was the physics of some big ass glitches
Standard Levels You Qi
btw, who's the stand levels pack creator?
Standard Levels GPolice
Probably SZ no?
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity theONE
kool
torrobinson's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
I never knew that tires could sink into the ground.

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flip's game on palmstamp.com torrobinson
HAHA! GREAT! YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE!
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
Theone needs to go back to school and leanr to type correctly.
Rouch's game on Street Chaz
One of the hardest levels i've played in a long time!
torrobinson's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
I submitted another one when before I registered, so I cannot submit it again ( ) Where I got stuck in the roof and lived!
Human Insides Time Trial GPolice
Best viewable movie (Hey it's an accomplishment for me )
flip's game on palmstamp.com theONE
ha... wow
theONE's game on Big Cheese The Two
no i wasnt
You Qi's game on U Jump The Two
why the hell r u voting for this guy??? its just a frikin glitch.. i mean it could happen to anyone... no skill, just glitching...i mean, now that youve seen it vote for someone good like me lol
You Qi's game on Cloudwalk The Two
i wish i could do that
Time Trial Champions The Two
what is spelled W-H-A-T stupid ass internet lingo
The Two's game on Downhill Madness theONE
wow eric;>... this really sux!
Roel's game on Underground Xtreme mega
this is really hard to copy
The Two's game on Downhill Madness theONE
hahahahahaha... i beat u
Cablecar Time Trial theONE
th fun version rules(cause i can beat it!)
Moon Madness Time Trial The Two
wow that is awesome tell me and theone how to do it
SinkInToDrinks Time Trial The Two
i am rising to the top wohoo for me
Freestyle Competition The Two
vote for theONE cause he is my friend and he is cool
torrobinson's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
Just ANOTHER glitch that caused a long jump.
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
theONE: SHUT UP!
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
Nice one, Im from Canada too. I don't thisnk that theONE is, because he is a hethen

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torrobinson's game on Riding School Part 2 torrobinson
Woooowww. I wonder what's inside...
flip's game on palmstamp.com torrobinson
I just did the same thing! It's fun
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
Rackamn is the French Bastard.



theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
Well I'm pretty sure Rachman is French... ?




BTW: theONE was born in a broken home. His mother died of alcohol poisoning and his father shot him self after he was found cheating (with a 12 year old BOY).


Funny story
Chaz's game on Riding School Part 2 Chaz
Very lucky flip,just landed on the side!
theONE's game on Big Cheese Dags
Guys - grow up please!
Aleksey's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Aleksey
Bike'O'Fish 3
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
hey fatty, yeah, u torrobinson, SHUT THE FUCK UP MOFO!
rachman!'s game on U Jump GPolice
Getting the last flag and flipping correctly is really hard for me!
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
"Fatty"? I'm skinny! But I could still snap you in half, you faggot.

And oh fag: enjoying the spam that I am signing you up for?
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
theONE: if this "sux", and yours is horten than mine, that your are saying that yours sucks mire!! AHAHAH FAG
Downhill Madness Time Trial theONE
i cant get far enough, i hate it
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 theONE
ur other was alot better
Sena's game on Sinus Mountains Sena
Over Hills and far away...
SDC's game on Downhill Madness Sena
Talk about FLUKE!!!!!! NICE JOB DUDE!
Hill Time Trial theONE
stop making excuses, som1 beat u
rachman!'s game on U Jump rachman!
Yeah, is very difficult, but is faster... I have a 21.16secs record that I hadn't submitted...
Hill Time Trial rachman!
As you say...
Loop 1 Time Trial Rouch
I suspect You Qi use another way to get back from the upper of this level , because 35' seems to be impossible with the "classical way". Any comment You Qi ?
Loop 1 Time Trial You Qi
nope! same route! there are 4 places which you need to master well or else for each places you will wasted 1-2sec!

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U Jump Time Trial DDMac
I have been gone a few weeks. It seems the cat is now out of the bag. Well done Lee!
OrR's Cave Time Trial MATA
In this time I think i ve got the biggest achievment, I use a m130..... very veryo old, but very very useful!
Loop 1 Time Trial Rouch
Anyway congratulations You Qi. I just save time by avoiding the flip flop between the platforms on the left.
Square Time Trial MATA
otro 1,2,3 pa nuestra bella nacion.. estamos arrasando este juego paisanos. AWEVO! QUE VIVA MEXICO!
The Well Time Trial Lee
RAH! thanks for that... good point, well made.... doesn't apply to other people... it's only me that gets to winge!
U Jump Time Trial Lee
now I feel bad... sorry DDM, I thought I had been original.
Touch Bricks Time Trial Lee
A hint on the middle level.... pop your wheelie, then tap the brake.... the bike will pop up in the air with the rotation
theONE's game on Spike Cave theONE
mmm... reverse
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Lee
As always... thanks for showing us something that we will have to spend a week solid trying to do.... NICE
Sena's game on Vertical Avenue Sena
Where is the roof??!?!
U Jump Time Trial DDMac
No don't feel bad my friend - at least you had the guts to show your move!
Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Dags
Nice one Tabs - good control there!
Standard Levels Dags
SZ I think - BTW what happened to the old cool crazy flier avatar?? Bring it back!
Konecnik Time Trial Dags
Yeah this one has a good flow to it - going up that is. Don't like going down on this one.
Dags's game on Loop 1 Dags
Bouncey bouncey bounce
Dags's game on U Jump Dags
Stunts galore on the half pipe!! I love this level - it's great for just messing around. I managed 2 long wheelies, 2 double flips, a reverse wheelie landing and a wheelie jump to finish. C'mon guys lets see some stuff on the half pipe - I vote for a half pipe challenge.
Lee's game on Spike Cave You Qi
use Oliver's way to finish will save sometimes...
GPolice's game on Underground GPolice
Finally I got it!!!
Touch Bricks Time Trial GPolice
That helps, thanks Lee I still can't beat it tho lol
Bike O'Clock Time Trial GPolice
You obviously know how to do it, or you don't. The gap between me and Marko is 10 seconds! I have alot to improve

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Dags's game on Loop 1 GPolice
0.02 seconds better than 6, nice
Standard Levels You Qi
you mean Lee? yea yea! bring it back! lol!
U Jump Time Trial rachman!
In fact, You were original Lee... I got surprised when saw your move. Never would have thought it was possible.You should feel good because thanks to you, this level time has been improved. Thanks for sharing.
Dags's game on U Jump Sena
Go the bounce on the left after you have gotten all the flags!
Omaha Beach Time Trial rachman!
Publisized...
Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes rachman!
Yeah, very good!!
Rouch's game on Loop 1 rachman!
Well done at the end, but in the begining when you flip, there is the key... My routine has some inperfections, check it up!
rachman!'s game on Loop 1 rachman!
The key is the landing in the fist flip, in fact, I did it bad...
El Gepe's game on Vanilla Sky El Gepe
Elastic Bike...
Dags's game on Golden Gate Dags
Thanks to Rachman
Dags's game on U Jump Dags
That wheelie at the end was the perfect wheelie! Verry happy with that!
Dags's game on U Jump Dags
That wheelie at the end was the perfect wheelie! Very happy with that!
Dags's game on Square Dags
A big thanks to Volcano for sharing this technique.
Dags's game on Loop 1 Dags
Aye if I can add his finish it's a couple of seconds off.
rachman!'s game on U Jump Dags
I managed it once but messed up the landing ..... damn! Gone back to 'Lee style' for the mo.
Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes theONE
cool
Bike Impossible Time Trial theONE
this is really the best level ever made for bike or die!
Sawtooth Time Trial You Qi
what I can say is, if you miss a single part, then you will miss alot of time.
The Two's game on Midnight Mess The Two
this freestyle sucks but it was my first ever i hope you like it... if you dont vote for theONE... he is my friend
The Two's game on Midnight Mess The Two
it meant to say if you dont, then vote for theONE

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The Two's game on Midnight Mess The Two
Ive seen better freestyles from a sandwich
Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes The Two
if i could do it that fast, id be tied for first
Standard Levels Dags
Yeah sorry - I meant Lee's old crazy avatar - where is it? What's with this new found model look? Rubbish I tell you!
Human Insides Time Trial Dags
Sorry GPolice. Just pipped you.
SiuLun's Levels GPolice
Rachman and You Qi tied!
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 GPolice
That was cool but not ~amazingly~ cool
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 GPolice
Lol, I just tried to imitate this and I did, then I crashed on the quarter pipe.
The Two's game on Midnight Mess SuperCritic
This freestyle absolutely sucked. I don't know why anyone would vote for it. On a scale on 1 to 10 i would give it a -7
The Two's game on Midnight Mess SuperCritic
12 flips sucks
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
WHY IS THIS GETTING VOTES????????
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12067
THAT is MUCH better than this crappy one! Get this junk of the 1st page!
El Gepe's game on Vanilla Sky torrobinson
Where was the elastic bike?
The Two's game on Midnight Mess torrobinson
Hello, theONE, stop making duplicate accounts to piss ppl off!
Bike Impossible Time Trial theONE
this is the only level im on the first page!!
theONE's game on Bike Impossible theONE
only 1st page worthy level!
Bike O'Clock Time Trial MATA
thers for you Gpolice....be more agressive
Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial rachman!
I'm sure you can doit better... my movie is free to see now.
Spike Cave Time Trial rachman!
A gift for you...
Loop 1 Time Trial You Qi
wow~ seems like someone found the way to do it!
Dags's game on Jump Over You Qi
nice try!
rachman!'s game on Loop 1 You Qi
wow... very nice flipping at the back there.. you can directly jump from 3rd floor to the ground floor... hmm.. I think even 33sec is possible now.

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SDC's game on Downhill Madness SuperCritic
This replay totally sucks. It is complete luck. If it were a colour, it would be a rainbow flag.
The Two's game on Midnight Mess theONE
who the hell vote for this... ERIC TAKE THE GHOSTS OFF!
bb_fighters's game on Wheel Insider The Two
That sux
torrobinson's game on U Jump torrobinson
A half pipe run I did when I was bored
torrobinson's game on Riding School Part 2 theONE
hey MOFO you suck!!!!!!!!!!
torrobinson's game on U Jump theONE
torrobinsons a mother/daddy fucker
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
torrobinson, at least im not 25 or how ever fucking old u are and obsessed e/ bike or die... can just stop this fight w/ mebeacuse im 13

ten good reasons to hate you:
-you r gay
-u send starit people spam
-and hate mail
-u are obsessed w/ bike or die and ur 20 sumthin
-u have no life
-ur web site sux
-u wont stop annoying me
-ur pic sux
-u probally blow ur mom(i wonldnt no how?!?!?!)
-UR A MOTHER FUCKER!!!
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
and ur fat... FATTY
torrobinson's game on U Jump torrobinson
Whoa, calm down, bitch.
Konecnik Time Trial theONE
evil going down
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider SuperCritic
Oh, my GOD, there is nothing that sucks more than this, i laugh at you, HA,HA,HA
Roel's game on Underground SuperCritic
The only replay worthy of the gold, my salute to you!
You Qi's game on U Jump SuperCritic
Oh, this is dredful! I can not believe my eyes, people actually voted for this monstrosity?
rachman!'s game on U Jump SuperCritic
Very nice, a definite FREESTYLE if you ask me!
theONE's game on The Right Way theONE
this level is soo much fun!
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
<img src="http://bike.toyspring.com/pic/715.jpg">
Konecnik Time Trial You Qi
lol... I like going down!
You Qi's game on Omaha Beach You Qi
I did a very nice passing on the pole there! isn't it?
Omaha Beach Time Trial You Qi
me too!
Bird Time Trial You Qi
yea... I love rachman too! (although his time make me mad sometimes! )

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You Qi's game on Fly! You Qi
ah... nothing new to see.
Cablecar Time Trial You Qi
lol.. hey, can't you just give me the medal?
theONE's game on Big Cheese SuperCritic
This display of sheer stupidity should never of been vote for, and you, tor-whatever, just please SHUT UP!
David's game on The Right Way SuperCritic
This dose not deserve a single vote, but 6, i believe not!
Max's game on Me vs. The Gravity SuperCritic
It is OK, if you are on cokeaine! Only a crack head would vote for this!
Aleksey's game on Cablecar SuperCritic
Very odd! But since this is supposed to be FREESTYLE not a talent show, this not worth the votes!
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe SuperCritic
What is all this talk about rachman! being French, the french are all gay, now rachman! is not gay, he is nothing but pure talent!
Sz's game on Cloudwalk SuperCritic
Oh dear, and you are supposed to be good?
theONE's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
? I am a "lanky" 14 year old. You think I am 25. What a compliment. You must think I'm very mature.


Oh! 13 years old, huh. That explains your extremely newbish site.
MATA's game on Hill MATA
it seems theres some kind of National sharing between costa rica´s people. c´mon if you are so great share it and test yourselves!
Hill Time Trial MATA
why are you always bothering everyone the one....stop typing and start playing and getting some good times....
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe rachman!
I don't know what is the context of a french person in the international range, but you obviously should know I'm not french. I'm mexican.
If you ask me, the only disgusting people I consider is racist people.
Bike Impossible Time Trial Dags
Sorry theONE
Konecnik Time Trial Dags
lol! I saw that after I wrote it Trust You Qi to state it though.
Dags's game on Human Insides Dags
Horrible, just horrible ....
Dags's game on Jump Over Dags
Yeah, that's the smoothest I can do this level. It has a good flow to it but it's gonna be hard to beat your time.
rachman!'s game on Spike Cave Dags

As usual rachman - nice one
Touch Bricks Time Trial Dags
GPolice - just keep practicing over and over. I can complete this level quite easily now but it's hard to do it fast. It is by far the hardest level I reckon so don't give up just yet.
MATA's game on Hill You Qi
amazing!!!!
GPolice's game on Underground Dags
Well done
Now you just have to do it faster!

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rachman!'s game on Spike Cave Lee
You, my friend, are a madman..... I can't believe those first two jumps.... just to keep the momentum... nice one!
Spike Cave Time Trial Lee
Thanks..... again... more than "just a touch" I think.... great thinking!
SDil's game on Sawtooth Lee
I would love to see this!
SDil's game on Sawtooth Lee
I would love to see this!
rachman!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity Lee
Such carefull control on the wheelies.... I think you are right... it can get quicker yet, but there are at least 6 sections where you have to have perfect style to get a good time!
Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial Lee
Thanks Rachman..... Can be beaten, but I think you will hold this for a long time!
Oliver's game on Wheel Insider Oliver
Far from perfect...
Sawtooth Time Trial You Qi
Congratulation Oliver!!!
SiuLun's Levels MATA
HERE COMES MATA!!!
Clay Serpent Time Trial Oliver
Looks like my countrymen are working hard...MABUHAY...
torrobinson's game on U Jump torrobinson
I got bored, so did 3 BIG jumps in a row.
Standard Levels Oliver
Once upon a time, i made it to 3rd place in this level...
Sena's game on Wheel Insider Sena
Go my flips!
Sena's game on Wheel Insider Sena
Flipping skills!
torrobinson's game on U Jump Sena
Nice!!! Good landing
Also check out my freestyle!!

http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=13273
flip's game on palmstamp.com Sena
LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
torrobinson's game on U Jump Sena
You've got my vote!
MATA's game on Hill Sena
Fluke after fluke!
Time Trial Champions MATA
You qi when i think im approaching you get some new places and you manage to keep your distance!!!!! Thas cool!! And because my chasing you have approached a lot more to rachman... good rivals!!
Andyl3's game on Double Sprint Andyl3
cant see

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Riding School Time Trial You Qi
27.82? if my 29.32 infront there did it perfectly, 27.50 is in my hand!
flip's game on palmstamp.com theONE
MMmmm... worthless flips, like mine...
Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue theONE
awesome...
Jurassic Parking Time Trial Sena
How?
SDC's game on Downhill Madness MasterBlast
I don't think this was a fluke. I bet he spent a long time figuring out when to accelerate, when to brake, all that stuff. He gets my three
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 RogueNine
eh, what can I say? I got tired of people bitching at me about the other one and don't really feel like submitting something better.
theONE's game on Big Cheese RogueNine
so what you are trying to tell us is that the only way you can have a decent self image is if verbally abuse other players on this site (theONE, you're not much better)what would your mother say?
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese RogueNine
QUOTE:
"Theone needs to go back to school and LEANR to type correctly"
Ahem. LEANR??????????
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
boooo, pictures r awesome ways to curse mofos out...
Hill Time Trial Sena
The time differences between the first couple of places is amazing!
Andy Cuthber's game on The Well Dags
Well done Andy - you worked out to vote for yourself.
Konecnik Down Time Trial Sena
Agree, there is 1 or 2 corners that are always to close... where as in the normal one, you can get on a roll!
Andyl3's game on Double Sprint Dags
Not bad for a blind person that
Freestyle Competition RogueNine
how about just a time limit for the votes to be valid? Or at least a a limit on how ling you can be in a medal position.
MATA's game on Hill Dags
Well done MATA!! Stick this in the freestyle compo as this takes skill to pull it off.
RogueNine's game on Riding School Part 2 Dags
Don't listen to 'em Rogue. Well done.
rachman!'s game on Spike Cave GPolice
Predictable rachman style
flip's game on palmstamp.com GPolice
lmfao thats halarious
Nose Time Trial MATA
Finally!!!! hard to complete in less than 30..
GPolice's game on Fly! GPolice
Youre a thief Keroppi! That bronze medal was the one thing I was proud of in this world!

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El Gepe's game on Vanilla Sky Sena
agree...
Daniel's game on Malysz Sena
freestyle doesn't mean just completing the level!!!
Dags's game on U Jump Sena
Agree!
Dags's game on U Jump Sena
Alright fine, you can have a vote!
Dags's game on U Jump Sena
PEOPLE!! This is called freestyle!
Oliver's game on Sinus Mountains Oliver
YEHEY...Dec 20, 2004 2:42pm (Philippine time).
I become number 1 in this stage and in standard level...
At lease for sometime...
Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
YEHEY...Dec 20, 2004 2:42pm (Philippine time).
I become number 1 in this stage and in standard level...
At lease for sometime...
Standard Levels Oliver
Once upon a time, i become number one in this level...
Standard Levels Dags
Well done Oliver - fully deserved mate
Standard Levels Oliver
thnx, but i know this won't take long...
Sena's game on palmstamp.com Sena
Don't vote for this, we've seen it before. I just wanted to do it myself, lol.
Lee's game on Hellraider Lee
You just have to keep it calm on this level
MATA's game on Hill Lee
No one will ever beat this.... Freestyle No1 for sure!
theONE's game on Big Cheese Wertguy
wait... theONE has a mother??!!??!! She must be gay...
theONE's game on Big Cheese Wertguy
torrobinson you rock i love your cool flips
theONE's game on Big Cheese Wertguy
oh and theONE.. suck my big fat hairy monkey balls
oh and how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? say that wile youre blowing you're mom
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Wertguy
stop making fun of torrobinson he is cool so wat if he had a typo
torrobinson's game on U Jump Wertguy
torrobinson.. no offense but yuor freestyle sucks... you still have two of my votes though
MATA's game on Hill A Cuthbert
Oh my God, how the Fu** did u pull that off????!!!!!!
that has to win the freestyle hands down.!!!!!!!!
Andy Cuthber's game on The Well Dags
respect for cancelling them as well.

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Hellraider Time Trial Lee
This level can still get at least a second faster
rachman!'s game on U Jump Lee
Time to submit that faster time rachman
Master KO's Levels Bill
how do i get these levels.... when i click on download at top i get http 403 forbidden error
JohnnyELF's game on Riding School Part 2 JohnnyELF
I used IDCLIP from DOOM II LOL!
JohnnyELF's game on Riding School Part 2 JohnnyELF
I used IDCLIP from DOOM II LOL!
JohnnyELF's game on Riding School Part 2 JohnnyELF
Too slow, too furious!
connie's game on Riding School Dags
Well done Connie!!
theONE's game on Big Cheese Dags
Never have I laughed so hard a bunch of immature monkeys!! Brilliant! Keep it up lads - the only way is down now. On with the show!
Liam's game on Underground Liam
VOTE FOR THIS.
It is actually finished fast and finished in 20 secs
It is my best time.
VOTE
Stingray's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
4 flips isn't that impressive...
OrR's Levels Rdb
when is the next level pack coming out?
Rowin's game on Pipe Universe Rowin
Ups! Bad day!
Brtstvo's game on Riding School Brtstvo
why not? `o]
theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
shut up dags is it my fault every1 who comments is an imature jackass?
MATA's game on Hill Xtreme mega
AWESOME!
Up stairs Time Trial Volcano
=P
ZhangXiean's game on The Right Way Dags
unlucky!!
Time Trial Champions GPolice
1.3's sound effects are great
Wheel Insider Time Trial carlo
THe Philippines will rule all!
miguel's game on Wheel Insider miguel
haha, i have to admit that this wasn't me, 'twas carlo who accidentally left my name in. ;P

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DavidE's game on Downhill Madness carlo
11.14!!?! that's sick...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Sena
Agree
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Sena
agreeing with youqi i mean...
Andy Cuthber's game on The Well A Cuthbert
thanks dags
i new it was a bit sad
slavko's game on The Well A Cuthbert
im no 10 this is crap no offence
slavko's game on The Well A Cuthbert
that's no.10
RogueNine's game on The Right Way MasterBlast
*Sigh* the masses are still asses.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
W/e. Rachman, I just looked at your level, what's so difficult about it?
Sena's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
Wheel catching!
torrobinson's game on U Jump Sena
vote taken...sorry
rachman!'s game on U Jump rachman!
Ok, I will...
Sena's game on Zip-Zap Sena
How did I not stack?!?!

View this recording and vote!!!
Sena's game on Zip-Zap Sena
Unstackable!
(right hand side, 'top section')
Roel's game on Underground RogueNine
If it's the only good one, then give freestyle medals to all the time trial entries! I can do this but I bet you won't vote for me!
Midnight Mess Time Trial Lee
I know you guys are doing this without backing up between the first car and the ramp, but I just can't quite get the bounce....
Sena's game on Konecnik Down Lee
Fantastic Beginning
Oliver's game on Underground Lee
Mate.... you were so close on those mines! I bet you were hugging your pda as you floated over like that!
You Qi's game on Omaha Beach Lee
veeeery smooooth.
I just can't string together this kind of consistency
ZhangXiean's game on The Right Way Lee
Interesting Hang.... I love seeing the physics engine get a workout!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
now that i watch this i wonder y i ever voted for it!

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Sena's game on Malysz Sena
Another case of strange physics...
This is one strange 'Bouce'!
Sena's game on Malysz Sena
Weird eh
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Dags
Beautiful!
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Volcano
can we see someone in top5?
Dags's game on Vanilla Sky Carlos
Just perfect!
Lee's game on U Jump Nik
i'm using the same way, but my time isn't as good as yours
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
Oh, go f*** yourself, all you can do is spin.
Time Trial Champions Sena
Reakon, turning them off though 'Is Difficult' (quote Manwell, faulty towers)
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Tabs
Thank you dags - a question - why the English flag and not the union sir ?
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese Carlos
Wow! Great ride!
rachman!'s game on Floors Carlos
The more I see the more I'm amused!
Lee's game on Underground Lee
Finally, I managed it!
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Tabs
10
Wheel Insider Time Trial GPolice
Wow, and I thought 13 was a good game.

Nice job
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
RogueNine
like vote for myself? nah. MasterBlast is my cousin though and he seemed to start the whole voting for me thing. don't post that we're related though. if the bitter masses found that out then they would want rules banning relatives from voting alltogether. yeah i've got alot of crap coming at me right now but that's not my fault. with the new levels out, someone will get a great run, people will vote for it, and the the idiots will have someone else to whine at.
2004-11-17 04:53:10

RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
a massage foruge 9 sent me
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
i meant... message that rouge 9 sent me
rachman!'s game on The Right Way theONE
i can only get up to 23secs... awesome!
Pipe Universe Time Trial You Qi
47 is possible
You Qi's game on palmstamp.com You Qi
not as good as tabs.

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Tabs's game on palmstamp.com You Qi
Well Done.
Lee's game on Jurassic Parking You Qi
Well, you did a very great time on the 2 cars when you was on the way coming back, I dunno what's ur time to pass the 2 cars, but I got mine best time was 10sec something to touch the dinasour tail.
Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
for you...
Oliver's game on Golden Gate Oliver
for rachman, as promised...the next one would be secret...hehe..thanks to rachman anyway
DavidE's game on Downhill Madness carlo
Now that's an obscene time. 11.14 For this stage!!?!
Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
yeah you're right. i was also thinking of clinging on the ceiling but the brake seems to be not working there, maybe because it's too soft for the tires...
Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
but if you zoom it closely on the mines, i was just lucky because the spike turned off when the wheel pass over it...
Standard Levels You Qi
I give up. I have opened all my non-gold medal's replays. Well Done Oliver! this year maybe I will not be so frequent playing this game coz my big exam is coming...
Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
here you are
You Qi's game on Bike Impossible You Qi
isn't hard
You Qi's game on Midnight Mess You Qi
26sec route
You Qi's game on Tricky You Qi
Konecnik Down Time Trial You Qi
HINT: there's 1 place which can save 2sec
Standard Levels Oliver
you qi, you were able to beat me in level 14, you're really good, i bet it will take a long time if that record could be beaten. also nice one on level 25...
MATA's game on Hill Oliver
nice one mata...deserves a vote...
Big Cheese Time Trial You Qi
Well, 52,53sec is possible.
Standard Levels You Qi
thx. but both of them are not a perfect game yet... still a gap on it..
Standard Levels You Qi
perhaps now is time for you to try other level packs!
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Benoit
I think once you get to front page in freestyle you start getting a lot of views which increases voting dramatically. I think this entry is the best freestyle yet (after Roel's incredible approach to Underground) and its position close to the top of the board is entirely deserved. Justed voted for it.
Bike Impossible Time Trial theONE
ur all against me

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RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
The name's ROGUE buddy, not some kind of make up. Thanks for your support friends. I think it would be cool to have freestyle medals for each level. I believe that Roel's Underground run is great don't get me wrong, it's just been done by most of us now and has sat in first long enough. I'm not trying to push myself into first, I really don't care, right now SDC has my votes.
You Qi's game on U Jump Xtreme mega
i dont like this but its better than rouge9's
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe theONE
...nice
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe theONE
u pulled it off perfectly
Standard Levels Oliver
i'll also be busy for the coming weeks, but i have it already on my palm, i'll just surprise you...hehe...thnx...have a good year to all...
carlo's game on Wheel Insider carlo
Yahoo! Please let me keep this gold!
GPolice's game on Touch Bricks Dags
Well done! At long last!
Oliver's game on Riding School Dags
Very nicely done Oliver - shame you couldn't snag first there.
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
a few more seconds faster is possible
Sena's game on Pipe Universe Sena
Spring or Die 2!
Sena's game on Pipe Universe Sena
This is one way to get down!
Time Trial Champions You Qi
This is a history moment, I surpassed rachman!
Tabs's game on Konecnik You Qi
thank you. I dunno it can be done in this way. good job!
OrR's Levels You Qi
good question... perhaps Sz can answer this.
Tabs's game on Konecnik Tabs
To be fair I tried to copy Sena - but
I just couldn't get the back wheel to
hit the flag, so I did another half turn.

So it can be done faster I think.

Time Trial Champions Rouch
Congratulations You Qi, You worth it. How many hours and days of playing Bike Or Die ???
Time Trial Champions Sena
Excellent! Finally after creeping up to Rachman you have finally overtaken!
Time Trial Champions Dags
Well done You Qi - the Rachman era has ended. Wow!
Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
yeah right...thnx
Time Trial Champions rachman!
Very Well Done You Qi, I like Competition..

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rachman!'s game on U Jump Lee
Oh man..... you really did have that quicker time!!
Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
if you beat this, you're a Bike or Die! fanatic...
Stacy's game on Downhill Madness Jalil
lots of patience! how old are you?
Time Trial Champions You Qi
thank you everyone. btw, I'm the medal holder for the other 3 level packs too!
akessler's game on Golden Gate El Gepe
Where is the free style ?
Matias's game on Underground El Gepe
Check out Roel's Freestyle contribution fot this level(n°1 in the competition)
Sena's game on Pipe Universe El Gepe
I tried this way for some time and .... didn't suceed yet!
I will try again now.
You get one vote
ZhangXiean's game on Spike Cave ZhangXiean
The same finish as Lee. HOHO
rachman!'s game on Big Cheese Jalil
Buena!
Roel's game on Underground The Two
go to my site at http://www.thetwo.tk and click on join my army to help me in kings of chaos (an online game)
SDC's game on Downhill Madness The Two
go to thetwo.tk and click join my army to help me in game called kings of chaos
You Qi's game on U Jump The Two
oh yea and go to my site thetwo.tk and click join my army to help me in a game called kings of chaos
Midnight Mess Time Trial You Qi
Lee, look up my replay for some ideas.
Oliver's game on Underground You Qi
does the spike turned off really matter? I think it just only an animation.
Tester's game on Riding School You Qi
Hello, world 1st BoD player.
MATA's game on Hill theONE
thats sum skill
Loop 3 Time Trial theONE
i HATE THIS LEVEL
torrobinson's game on U Jump theONE
THIS BLOWS
Tabs's game on Konecnik theONE
NICE!
theONE's game on Konecnik theONE
EAT IT!

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Sena's game on Pipe Universe Sena
Takes practice, but very doable. This was the first time I went through the section, normally i catch front or back wheel on the thick bit and spin to land.
Wheel Insider Time Trial Sena
Funny how a new method of completion is discovered, and that changes all...
You Qi's game on Midnight Mess You Qi
how to get 21sec...
Time Trial Champions Bill
is there an easy way to lookup how other people are doing? I have a friend playing with me and want to be able to search for him and look at his profile scores.
Time Trial Champions Bill
i just upgraded to new version 1.3 and it reset my controls... i have a palm treo 600 and i use up and down for go and stop. it doesn't recognize up and down. there's no way i can get use to different controls...
Time Trial Champions Bill
i upgraded to 1.3 and now i can't upload my scores anymore... it's like it doesn't even try it just says failed.
Time Trial Champions Dags
Bill email SZ directly about these issues - he's aware of some of them already. Hopefully we'll get a fixed version soon.
Medals by Country You Qi
Wow.... another new result again.
Oliver's game on Sinus Mountains Matias
Hey! great game. I don't know how why didn't you die on the first jump?
Cablecar Time Trial OrR
I really don't understand what's so difficult about this level... O.o Especially since there are replays...
But I realize I shouldn't have put loop3 and cablecar directly in this order...
You Qi's game on Jurassic Parking Lee
Do you think that braking in reverse offerse a lot of control? - I notice you using it a lot here
Midnight Mess Time Trial Lee
Gotcha... I was pretty much there already, but I didn't realise you were just dropping off the last pile of cars for a big bounce too!
Malysz Time Trial rachman!
I did it!!
Tabs's game on Cemetery Tabs
i got 19.24 on this level - would admin remove my previous
submition???
Malysz Time Trial You Qi
yea! congratulation.

finally you are back!
Time Trial Champions rachman!
Time to get back!!
Time Trial Champions rachman!
Come back, I meant...
Time Trial Champions Dags
He he - well done Rachman!! Knew you'd come back and 'kick some butt'
Hellraider Time Trial Lee
Did I just say that?
Nice one Rach... .thanks for proving me right!
Aleksey's game on Malysz You Qi
lol!!! nice discovered.

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Malysz Time Trial You Qi
guys, look at this, http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=15131
rachman!'s game on Malysz rachman!
Here is the key for the 41 secs game...
Time Trial Champions You Qi
I feel better having a silver medal than gold.
Aleksey's game on Malysz Aleksey
Secret place
rachman!'s game on Malysz You Qi
WOW! New route again! man, you are too innovative sometimes..
Medals by Country ZhangXiean
China~~~~5555 Come on!
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Dags
Tabs - dunno why really - I've always considered myself English before British?? I live in Japan, My Dad is half Irish, half Scottish. My Mum is English. Why do you go for the Union Jack?
Sena's game on Pipe Universe Dags
Whoa! Steady on there Sena lad - you are all over the shop on this one! Nice landing though.
rachman!'s game on Underground c.i....
lol.. Just when I thought it couldn't be done any faster...
torrobinson's game on Big Cheese CX3KYS
It is obvious that on theONE's game, he stopped trying to flip, possibly because he actually HAS a life torro. Now quit being a dork and do something ORIGINAL.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
its ok ROUGE (ill spell it ass i please) go ride ur tiny bus if u think ure freestyle is good. and i no mine sux i dont no y people voted for this complete thing(meaning ur freestyle votes) are riggged(mean GHOST VOTERS!) anyway just wanted to tell u that...
Oliver's game on Sinus Mountains Oliver
lucky bounce?
Master KO's Levels PrayeR
best levels. most of them are SMALL and fast, not like some of XA's levels or standart levels. and all of them has some new original ideas.
Time Trial Champions Sena
Poor You Qi
Street Time Trial Volcano
45 is possible =)

too bad MATA got 44:9x ... my gold is going away as soon as he uploads
rachman!'s game on Underground Dags
That was pixel perfect! I still don't believe it!
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Sylvain
Surprising that no one beat me on this one
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
and rouge be a man lose the stars... ****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
AndyFong424's game on Wheel Insider Sena
This is like my old freestyle! I agree with theOne!
Rouch's game on Vanilla Sky Rouch
I think I get a trick to do it fast but dangerous !

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Rouch's game on Downhill Madness Rouch
The rear wheel pass thru the wall
JohnnyELF's game on Riding School Part 2 JohnnyELF
One big jump and fast game
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
i think you've done it perfectly...
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 PrayeR
it seems noone will beat this time. gj
RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
I just put the stars their cause i knew young children like you would be reading.
Dags's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
lol
Medals by Country Sena

AUSSIE!!!
Bike O'Clock Time Trial Sena
And i thought beating You Qi's time would be hard!
Sena's game on Konecnik Down Sena
Thanks, I think you guys could use this...
bb_fighters's game on Wheel Insider Sena
How the hell did it get 4 votes? BEEN HERE DONE THAT!
Freestyle Competition Uli
How can i compete in freestyle? i#m new to this
rachman!'s game on Underground Sena
Wow. If ANYONE beats this, they are a FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
Oliver's game on Underground Sena
It's an interesting point
rachman!'s game on Malysz Sena
Do you think it's possible to snag the flag as you cross?
rachman!'s game on Malysz Oliver
No doubt...rachman rules this game...
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
thanks
OrR's Levels PrayeR
well, becouse it's included here, in online scores - it should be levels that can be completed by a lot of peoples. not just by 10 (or so) best players... ot it has no sence in placing this pack on the site.
that's first. second - placing levels in this pack... well, i think that easiest levels should be at begining.. it fails in this pack.
third. "fun" version is just better.
it would be better if "fun" version would be here or one of XA's pack.
imho.
OrR's Levels PrayeR
and those "hangs"... verdamt...
Ich hasse dich OrR (scherz)
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
wild...
Freestyle Competition carlo
I think voters should be qualified. There are way too many *losers* out here creating ghost accounts and voting for themselves. Like only those who completed at least 20 levels should be allowed to vote

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torrobinson's game on U Jump carlo
What a crap job.

If you're gonna vote for yourself, you could at least be less obvious about it
rachman!'s game on Malysz Sena
Reakon! lol. It'd be tricky though...
You Qi's game on Jurassic Parking You Qi
Well, just for fun! actually I found that using backward to move forward ur bike will fall down to the back side. So it can be more "sticky" to the road surface without boucing too high.
Sena's game on Touch Bricks Sena
Doing it Lee style!
Dags's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
3 double jumps and 1 TRIPLE!!
Dags's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
Not that special but managed to keep it going and land a triple spin jump and 3 double spins.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Jalil
IMPOSSIBLE.
rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Jalil
Almost tried 150 times to repeat that routine....and I repeat... IMPOSSIBLE!
Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Eric!
wow! I can't beat it!
OrR's Levels OrR
Are my levels really that difficult?
It takes getting used to the cablecars but once you know how to handle them it's not that bad...
The easiest levels should not be at the beginning but spread equally through the pack so that bad players can still get access to all levels. And that's where I failed, I shouldn't have put Loop3 and Cablecar after each other. Though Cablecar is really easy... Perhaps you should watch my replay?
Loop 3 Time Trial OrR
Me too...
OrR's Levels PrayeR
ja, exactly.. loop3 and cablecar together. that was cruel. lol
GPolice's game on Bottle Sena
Oh my gosh... LOL and WTF!
The Ratt's game on The Right Way Sena
This sux. It's a SLOW version of how it is normally done.
Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
a glitch on the last part almost cause me losing this medal.
Konecnik Down Time Trial PrayeR
25.00 is possible... i think 24.50 is possible too..
Drew's game on Floors Drew
I found a glitch in this level. Look at the bike in the beginning.
Bike Impossible Time Trial PrayeR
ffs, i can not finish this level. i can do anything except the last jump to finish flag... tried x100 times...
Bekudno's game on Downhill Madness Bekudno
Don't try this at home!
Aleksey's game on Cablecar Sena
lol, nice to see someone hanging the mercedes, rather than being hung by it.

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RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider Sena
omg. i still can't figure out why there are votes for this
theONE's game on Big Cheese Sena
shutup torrobinson.
theONE's game on Big Cheese Sena
shutup torrobinson.
theONE's game on Big Cheese Sena
actually, i agree with Dags. this is turning out to be like Jerry Springer! GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!!! JERRY JERRY!
Aleksey's game on Cablecar Aleksey
torrobinson's game on U Jump torrobinson
Wow! I actually got votes?
I havent been here in a while nowbecause I gave my Palm to my mom because I got a Pocket PC for Christmas! Now there's no way to play or add games
torrobinson's game on U Jump torrobinson
Carlo:
What are you talking about? You can't vote for your own games.

I thought you would have known that by now.
Wertguy's game on Big Cheese torrobinson
Wow! You have my votes!
Roel's game on Underground Sena
What's with the advertising? lol
Time Trial Champions Dags
Hey guys Dai is on the march! :o
Mata should watch out cos he's gonna take third soon when he finishes OrR's levels I reckon.
Good luck Dai and well done for mastering the game so quickly - you've done what I couldn't in 6 months!!
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Tabs
I just wanted our country on the map sir.
Sena's game on Touch Bricks Lee
nice one.... not easy though is it?
Freestyle Competition Sena
I think it should only be those in the top 50, 75 or 100, something like that
Konecnik Down Time Trial Lee
I am guessing that you can treat the first few drops like "The Well", with a hang and spin to save time.
Konecnik Down Time Trial PrayeR
me? no. despite the fact that this level has some "difficuilt" corners it's possible to move very fast.. almost without using brakes.
but it's possible i think (what u r saying). just i am not good enough to do that
Sqare Time Trial PrayeR
super - level, really like it.
Sz's game on Bird PrayeR
but so many cool moves
RogueNine's game on The Right Way JudgeDredd
Hmmm..............the ghost is back!
Sena's game on Touch Bricks Sena
Nope!
Oliver's game on Sawtooth Oliver
most awaited?...now you can beat me.

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Oliver's game on Cloudwalk Oliver
looks simple! but tough.
Oliver's game on The Well Oliver
this is d right way to doing it to get faster times, now you can beat us...hehe
rachman!'s game on Underground Oliver
i have 17.98 record but makes no sense if i post it. rachman, how many times did you finish with this routine...very very tough to do...
Oliver's game on Jurassic Parking Oliver
37 sec is possible...you can do it...come on...
Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
i think 31.36 is better (hehe)...but you can do it faster...
Oliver's game on Sawtooth Oliver
i love to see someone beating me in this level.
Time Trial Champions You Qi
January, a quiet month... Where is EVERYBODY!?
Standard Levels Dags
Hey guys I accomplished a personal milestone today - I overtook SDIL in the standard levels - something I never thought I'd be able to do! I also bumped him off the top 10 oops
Dags's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
An example of how to do this level in the traditional technique but witha fast time.
Dags's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
It's all about lifting the front wheel before each mountain to maintain speed and then landing each jump and using the momentum to lift the wheel again 34.32 secs - not bad
Oliver's game on Sawtooth Lee
I recon that is prefect, or as close as we are going to get.
Good work... I know just how hard it is to get this many perfect hits with the front wheel at the crest of the "tooth".
Standard Levels You Qi
congratulation Dags!
Dags's game on Riding School Dags
Annoyed that I duffed up the first jump. Or maybe I didn't?


Anymore I should know?
Tricky Time Trial PrayeR
ffs... same time...
Fly! Time Trial PrayeR
i think noone will beat rachman on this level... 18.54 is great time.
i made 19.12 at first attempt to play this level. lol. still can not make time better... arghh
Sena's game on Fly! Sena
Nearly missed the flag!!
Master KO's Levels Sena
I love these levels, they are my favourite to play, except OrR's are pretty cool now that I can do em
Sena's game on Fly! PrayeR
u could ride on the wall down in your case. u just did unnecessary 1/4 flip... coud be 18.xx
Loop 3 Time Trial PrayeR
worth level... at first those snow "things"... wt? i wanna see where i ride. same thing about that thin line. i just dont see the end of it. that's terrible..
Loop 3 Time Trial PrayeR
oh i forgot. one level is much more "better" in that sence. - one of the XA's invisible levels...

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Cablecar Time Trial PrayeR
u should NOT PLACE the most difficuilt part of the level almost at the end.
let me explain. if something is very hard at the begin of the level - u can try and try many times. but if something is difficuilt to do after 30-40 sec. after begin - u won't have enough mood to play this level again and again.
i am glad that some peoples who play good - "made" this level, but again, level packs in online competition SHOULD be for ALL levels of players.
damn yeah, i am trying to finish this level already 1 hour.
and i am p**** off. and that's only one level from this level pack i can not finish...
Cablecar Time Trial PrayeR
ok, i am not bit**** anymore. did this level.
muahahahaha. 1h and 10min did their job.
))))))))))
Time Trial Champions PrayeR
probably Dai is rachman! he wants to have not only gold but silber too
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
You Qi
yeah...
well, at least they r sharing how to make it between each other...
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
p.s. i didnt mean to say that they should share it to all.



Tabs's game on Cemetery PrayeR
wow, very nice. and fast even if begin was not very "clear"
Dags's game on Riding School Dags
Tried to wheelie at every opportunity. The wheelie version of this level
Dags's game on Riding School Dags
Wheelie Riding School
Cablecar Time Trial OrR
You can always use the editor to practise a certain passage in the level... Once you understand how it works it's quite easy...
Cablecar Time Trial PrayeR
thanks for the tip OrR! i did not know about such possibility! danke sehr.
Dags's game on Riding School Dags
Super Wheelies!!
Dags's game on Riding School Dags
My best yet!
Rouch's game on Vanilla Sky Oliver
you're right Rouch. tnx
Street Time Trial Volcano
ok my movie is public... someone beat mata hehe
Bike Impossible Time Trial Volcano
ok this movie is also public, as well as Siunlun's Street.... have fun!
Loop 3 Time Trial Volcano
my movie is public along with 11 Street, and bike imposible... have fun...
Time Trial Champions Volcano
i needed a break from this game... i was going blind from playing it hehe, so ill prolly keep falling from my beloved 4th place.... btw i made my silver medals public... Street, biuke imposible and loop3... have fun cause i'm still hooked on little john for palm os: http://yoyofr92.free.fr/
Street Time Trial You Qi
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!
dai's game on Omaha Beach dai
other way passing on the pole.
Roel's game on Underground Dags
Hey The Two - stop spamming. This is a bike or die site. You've added your spam to enough posts already.

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Bill's game on Double Sprint Dags
Nice one Bill!! Good flow - well done.
dai's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Dags
Nearly!
dai's game on Sleeps With The Fishes dai
Thanks!
Eric!'s game on Riding School Part 2 Eric!
woo-hoo
Time Trial Champions Eric!
Most fun game for palm!
Oliver's game on Vanilla Sky Oliver
Same as rouch's style...37sec is possible
Bike Impossible Time Trial Lee
At least it is quick to play 100 times - you iether make it or die.
I just can't get the timing for this hop.
Rouch's game on Vanilla Sky You Qi
lol...that's my route!
The Well Time Trial dai
Thanks for sharing,Oliver.
You Qi's game on U Jump Spencer
strange...well you got my vote
Time Trial Champions Rouch
Sz, there is one thing that could be nice to see, during the replay, it will be usefull to see the time running, so that we can compare at which time did someone pass to this or that point, just to see if we are already late or if we did well... Hope to be enough clear in my explaination
rachman!'s game on Square Rouch
Thanks Rachman for the trick, I think it was impossible to make it, but to be honest, I accidentaly do it, and beat your time ...
rachman!'s game on Malysz Rouch
Damned I try this route 100 times, but did never managed to cath the final flag. Congratulations Rachman !!!
Time Trial Champions Dags
Nice idea Rouch and well done Dai! Hope you come back soon Volcano as well.
Underground Time Trial Dansexy
¡DANSEXY es el mejor!
Bottle Time Trial dai
i'm lucky...
Time Trial Champions Tabs
Is there any chance of a 'proper' forum
being added to this site SZ ?

There seem to be many folks playing this
great game (No.1 palm game of all time imo)
from all over the world - it would be nice
to converse and have hints and tips from one
another.And also to chat with people from
other parts of the world.
Eric!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity Eric!
lol.
The Well Time Trial Oliver
No problem dai, it just make this level more exciting...also push me to have a faster record. ...
Oliver's game on The Well Oliver
this is d right way to doing it to get faster times, now you can beat us...hehe

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Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
i love this game...
Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
very very very tough to do. it will get into your nerves...but don't call me freak please . (17.66 is possible)
rachman!'s game on Underground Oliver
i only finish this routine once and i never want to do it again...
dai's game on The Well Oliver
nice one dai, i guess this level belongs to you...
Aleksey's game on Malysz PrayeR
i takih urovnej dohrena... cheta pohozhe proverki netu na takie dela.
Oliver's game on Underground Dags
You FREAK!
Seriously though - freaky stuff freak boy.
Oliver's game on Floors Oliver
i think dis may give u some idea...
RogueNine's game on The Right Way theONE
young children like you;<
Purple Palace Time Trial PrayeR
argh...
Spencer's game on The Right Way Spencer
Some flips, a wheelie and several kicks off the ceiling...fun stuff.
Dags's game on Riding School Part 2 Dags
took me 2 days solid to do this - sheesh!
dai's game on Golden Gate Dags
Well done Dai!
Bike Impossible Time Trial PrayeR
Lee
it's just not my level... i dont know how to make it...
and becouse of 1 unfinished level i am only 18 in this level pack... argh

theONE's game on Big Cheese theONE
see isnt tor a basterd...ASS!
Loop 2 Time Trial Volcano
ok my gold is published have fun!!
Up stairs Time Trial Volcano
OK all my medals are publishewd now... including gold gogogo!
Dags's game on Bottle Dags
Bottle neck bounce
Oliver's game on Underground PrayeR
lucky one
Golden Gate Time Trial PrayeR
always sad that someone who discovered the trick (in that case rachman!) is beaten by someone else...
Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Dags
Hehe - then you should choose the St George's cross as your flag.

When are you going to complete the standard levels btw?

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Loop 2 Time Trial dai
Thanks for sharing, Volcano.
i also published Downhill madness.
This route makes 11.10~11.50. i think.
Good luck everyone.
Downhill Madness Time Trial dai
published.
dai's game on Downhill Madness dai
This route use braking before second jump.
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
Volcano
very good skils, sad u lost gold...
OrR's Levels PrayeR
6th.. i dont think that i can reach 5th... but i am very glad with 6th ^^. never thought i can make that
Time Trial Champions PrayeR
u can give tips and tricks in comments, it would be more handy than just read text in forums.
OrR's Levels dai
Congratulations PrayeR!
PrayeR's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
all credits to Volcano
PrayeR's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
tnx Volcano
pumb.org Time Trial PrayeR
lol, first ten is secret.
pumb.org Time Trial PrayeR
lol, first ten is secret.
Aleksey's game on Cablecar PrayeR
ochen' milo
Purple Palace Time Trial PrayeR
return to status quo :o)
OrR's Levels PrayeR
dai
tnx
btw, with your rate you soon will be second or first

Time Trial Champions PrayeR
second, it will be additional bandwidth for this site, so SZ would have to pay more money, and admin work would take some time from him too.

about time when u wathc movies on the side - it would be very usefull.

btw, are there any ways to delete games from the server? because as i c - all games are saved, even if there is new one with better time.

Dags, mata should be aware? no! You Qi shoud be aware
Time Trial Champions PrayeR
mistake, shoud be - "u watCH movies on this siTe"
Moon Madness Time Trial PrayeR
ffs, i thought i can stop play this level...
dai's game on Downhill Madness You Qi
thx for sharing.
Tabs's game on Moon Madness PrayeR
and again... engine...
dai's game on OrR's Cave PrayeR
master class...
if last jump was better -it would be below 40 sec..
terrific.

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Tricky Time Trial PrayeR
at first sight that is very "straight" level, and that's true. but there are about 7-8 key points.
very good work OrR.
Medals by Country PrayeR
very sad, i am only one player from my country...


strange that USA has about 100 players and only 9th place in
"Medals by Country"
You Qi's game on palmstamp.com PrayeR
actually u can ride on the ceiling longer till the middle of the first M, and then also make long jump... i was able 2 do that 2 times only, sad i could not complete level those times.

gj
PrayeR's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
way discovered by Volcano
Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
hmmm, 6.25 is possible?
Nose Time Trial PrayeR
no, it's not that hard. there is just one trick and it become pretty easy.
PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
club "nose below 30:00"
theONE's game on Big Cheese PrayeR
i wanna good and cleah fight.
lets get in on (CD)
lol
Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
the new version of bike or die (v1.3) is very easy to play, that's why i get these consecutive medals...
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
sorry svalym...but if you play the latest bike or die version, you'll see that it's much easier. i just don't know why...
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
i mean sylvain, not svalym
Oliver's game on The Well Oliver
this is d right way to doing it to get faster times, now you can beat us.....hehe
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
WOW!
Oliver's game on Riding School Sena
easy to play? I haven't noticed anything
Oliver's game on Underground Sena
YOU FREAK! I THOUGHT RACHMAN HAD A PERFECT GAME!
Oliver's game on The Well dai
Nice one,Oliver!
Time Trial Champions Dags
Hi PrayeR - why should I be aware? - have you got some better times up your sleeve?

Well done Rouch btw - he finally overtook me on the rankings - I can tell he's been chasing for a while now and we've had a bit of a tussle but he's finally won out. Well done mate.
Oliver's game on Riding School Dags
Me neither - what do you mean? Well done - this has been one of the longest standing Golds. Sdil finally loses it.
Powerman's game on Touch Bricks Dags
LOL! Wild - surprised you could keep it going so long with all that bumping going on.
PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
club "Nose below 30:00" lol

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Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 PrayeR
some peoples, i won't point them with finger lol, should not play levels 1000x times
Riding School Part 2 Time Trial PrayeR
somebody, take away Oliver's PDA from him.
lol
Time Trial Champions PrayeR
Dags
me? well, nope.. i play only OrR's and Master KO levels.

anyway, i ment - that Dai can take 2nd place very soon, if rate won't go down. so You Qi should be aware.
Lee's game on The Right Way PrayeR
yeah, imho - best level in Standart pack.
Lee's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
yeah, hard. i tryed abot 20 times - and no luck...

gj btw.
Oliver's game on Riding School PrayeR
yeah, dont c any difference between 1.2 and 1.3 too.

Dags
Sdil played not so long time.. and he does not play now..
if he continued playin' it - probobly he would beat this time too.
dai's game on The Well dai
Nearly perfect one.....i think.
PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
club "Nose below 30.00"
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
this level drives me mad. dunno why.
rachman!'s game on Cave 2 PrayeR
yeah, u slowed down at the end, in other case it could be near 10.00
Freestyle Competition Ruben
Check my freestyle. It is one of the newest. Please vote.
Dags's game on Bottle Ruben
You get my vote. That was awesome.
Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
the new version has less dragging, i mean the background is quite smooth. also the bike is more stable and tolerates heavy bounce and stretch to some extent better than the previous version (as per my observation... )
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
lol, not me... i just played this for 999 times...hehe
Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Oliver
lol...you're right, i think i need break...but when i came back be prepared because i rock...
Oliver's game on Double Sprint Oliver
i'll miss this game...
Riding School Part 2 Time Trial PrayeR
man, i already said to all my medals - "bye"
Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 PrayeR
Ruben's game on The Right Way Dags
Nice one Ruben!
Double Sprint Time Trial carlo
I hate this stage, can't seem to get it right. Arg!

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MikeJ's game on Cablecar MikeJ
It becomes vry interresting to improve his own score each time we try it. Can do better, I lost 1-2 seconds just after the cable. Need to improve this again !!!!
Ruben's game on The Right Way Ruben
Thanks Dags.
Dags's game on Bottle Sena
Lol! Vote for coolness!
Oliver's game on Riding School Dags
Oliver - I think you've just got much better at the game - you are more zoned in and therefore it feels easier. I found the same thing too but I don't think the game got easier. As for heavy bounce landings there's a technique to doing them successfully and I would saythat at least the top 10 - 20 players have mastered this - I know I certainly have - check out level 3, 4 & 5 videos for a demonstration
Dags's game on Bottle Dags
Ta!
OrR's Levels PrayeR
5th.
PrayeR's game on Tatra PrayeR
! hate this one
Medals by Country PrayeR
omg, Belarus is 4th atm.
PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
club "Nose below 30.00"
OrR's Levels PrayeR
4th
Freestyle Competition PrayeR
that should be all who bought the game.
fair. u dont have to be champion or to be in first 100 to judge or it deserves vote or not.

You Qi's game on U Jump PrayeR
nothing to do with freestyle. no offence.
but still cool thing
Hill Time Trial PrayeR
hate this map
Sena's game on Fly! Sena
Rats!
Loop 2 Time Trial Sena
I'm getting a really sore thumb doing this...
Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Sena
This is like my freestyle, check it out at:
yttp://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=14719
Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Sena
http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=14719
OrR's Levels PrayeR
3rd
Time Trial Champions Sz
Tabs: yes, the forum is almost ready and will be launched soon.
another new thing on this site will be a "levelpack explorer" - a visual database of all levels in the world!
Time Trial Champions Sz
Rouch: yes, it's a nice idea. i will have to learn a bit of ActionScript to implement this... i have also another idea - one could select TWO games for the replay and watch both bikes riding on the same level, i think it could be quite exciting!

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Loop 1 Time Trial You Qi
published.
Time Trial Champions Rouch
Thanks Dags, it was really hard to overtook you. Now I will try to overtook Balint. But keep on playing hard, it's really good to have someone trying to chase you.
Sz: Really nice idea to have 2 bike coast to coast on the same level. Waiting for that. Good work !!!
Waiting also for another level pack Master Rachman had a project few month ago to make one.
Freestyle Competition S-n-T
It seems a tricky situation to resolve, but as a newbie to this (excellent) game I agree that you should have complete at least 5 (if not more levels) before being able to vote. Any way I have a couple of questions. 1: My level was uploaded to timetrial but I wanted it in freestyle how can I change this. 2: I have made some wickedly hard levels (like MUCH harder than touch bricks) how can I publish them and share them with other riders???
Feel free to email me answers at bennmoffat@ntlworld.com. Thanks and ride on
dai's game on The Well PrayeR
yeha, very good, but from your game it's clear that at the end it's possible to be faster.. i think 12.10 is possible
PrayeR's game on Tatra PrayeR
nothing new
Loop 1 Time Trial PrayeR
actally it's possible to play left part like "the well".
i did it 2 times, but crashed when wanted to take final flag... it was pretty fast.
OrR's Levels PrayeR
2nd
Loop 2 Time Trial Sena
Bad luck about the same time!
Tatra Time Trial PrayeR
yep
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
Sena
yep, would be good if u made 19.22 too
PrayeR's game on Loop 3 PrayeR
i hate this level. really hate.
PrayeR's game on OrR's Cave PrayeR
this level drives me mad. can not play it longer than few minutes.
PrayeR's game on OrR's Cave PrayeR
look at DAI's game to c how to do it right, and at my - to c how u should not do it .
almost 2sec. difference. dohhhhh.
OrR's Levels PrayeR
2nd.. but 0 points behind You Qi
OrR's Levels PrayeR
1st
now i will make pause. already a bit bored.
Sqare Time Trial PrayeR
You Qi and rachman! have 26 because (as i think) they made at begin not like me or DAI, but like.. hmmm... on "the Well" level.
i was able to that very fast only 1 time... and that was really fast... sadly, me, dumb a$$, made a mistake at the end of the level... on other case it would be about 25-26 too.
OrR's Levels PrayeR
noone congratulates me..
Master KO's Levels PrayeR
lol, now when i did OrR's levels i think they are good too
Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Spencer
Who would vote for this?
Scott.'s game on Sinus Mountains Scott.
I think that I found a glitch

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OrR's Cave Time Trial PrayeR
i use T5, before i had tj35, and i have to say that HiRes+ is more suitted for playing such games because u c more on the screen.
OrR's Levels dai
Well done,PrayeR!
You Qi's game on Loop 2 Sena
Noo! My bronze is gone!
OrR's Levels PrayeR
tnx )))))
zelab's game on Wheel Insider zelab
Nothing special.
Oliver's game on Floors Oliver
dis may give u some idea...
Sqare Time Trial You Qi
nope... I did it same as you but I got another little trick on the other place.
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
wow,
Volcano discovered and shared his movie, all who did the same way - shared their movies and only our great champion You Qi did not.
nice.
Sqare Time Trial PrayeR
ok, but anyway doing it like 'the well' - can be very fast.
u can try it. it's too hard for me so i can not repeat it, but u r better and probably can make that.

that's example - http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=18693
it was fast but then all i did was too bad and i crashed.
PrayeR's game on Sqare PrayeR
well, u can try to play this level at begin as i did. it's possible to take red flag after 10-11 seconds.
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
this level is killing me...
Time Trial Champions Dags
Congrats to You Qi once again - how long will it last this time?
dai's game on Sqare PrayeR
wow, same route and under 27.00
hmmm.. i will need to play this level again.

gj dai
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
I did share 2 of my Loop2 movie, dude!
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
ermm, i almost never see games to know how to play it. no fun then.
just i dunno, it's known already how to play this level.
what sence in secret
or u found another way, dude? (i dont ask to share! if it's true i wanna discover it by myself)
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
That's my principle£¬GoldMedal=SecretMedal. happy with my excuse? I'm not here to fight, but the way you speak for me it was so rudely.
You Qi's game on Pipe Universe You Qi
published.
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
what? rudely? lol.
i just say something, and i am relaxed, because i know it's only a game. dude.

champion was rude? lol. u r at first place, beated rachman!.
that's why i call u so...

omg, sometimes peoples should think good about other people and dont think that everyone want to offend someone.
and i dont want any excuses, i did not discovered that way.
not my buisness... just asked.
Time Trial Champions Thiago
How does the scoring work???
100 points = each level finished
1 point = each ranking

Levels with a lot of players (like riding school and double sprint) worth more than those with less players (like pipe universe)?

Does the leader in Riding School have 100 + ~518 points?
Time Trial Champions PrayeR
Sz
please make possibility to delete games from the server.

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PrayeR's game on Cablecar PrayeR
nothing new... poor ridin'..
Volcano's game on Up stairs PrayeR
brilliant
PrayeR's game on OrR's Cave PrayeR
i did like Dai, but there is difference.
which? 1.32sec! lol
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
fine
Powerman's game on Touch Bricks Powerman
Lot of flips (ich glaub ich müsste danach kotzen)
S-n-T's game on Riding School Part 2 S-n-T
I took me ages to get the distance just right to achieve the slingshot effect from the little ledge, cant beat the time trial this way tough because you can't get quite enough speed. ho hum.
Bastien's game on Riding School Bastien
je sais les mecks je suis nul faut dire que jè que 9 ans
Bastien's game on Riding School Part 2 Bastien
jy suis aller vite pour une fois
rachman!'s game on Double Sprint Bastien
pas male
Freestyle Competition S-n-T
Check out my entry @ http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=17893 for the longest jump you've ever seen in 'Riding School Part 2'. Please vote if you like it
S-n-T's game on Pipe Universe S-n-T
It took ages to get the distance and timing right to pull off the 'fall', unfortunately the rest of the levels a little dull!
Time Trial Champions Sz
prayer: sure, it will be done (later).
Time Trial Champions Sz
more about scoring

the maximum level rank taken into calculation is #99 (anything more counts as #99).
this is to avoid the case where the poor rank on a particular level lowers the global ranking more than not playing this level at all. it means you always gain on completing a level (which is good).
this rule was introduced when the total numer of players was below #100, so it had no influence, but now things look different:
the effects are:
1.players with their all levels ranks #99 or worse have their global ranks calculated from the number of levels only (which is not good).
2.players completing the same number of levels (and no level ranks better than #99) are assigned a global rank in no particular order (which is bad). such cases are clearly visible in the hall of fame table. eg. currently all players #638...#789 have completed only one level and they all have the same number of points (all are "0 pts behind (...)" ). #637 is the first one with 2 levels, that's why #638 is "1 pt behind #637".
3.there is no influence on players with all their level ranks better than #100

see also:  Improving the global ranking calculation
Ideas Sz
Improving the global ranking calculation
i see two ways to improve the global ranking calculation:

1.vary the maximum number of points for the levels depending on the number of players on this level. this would remove the need for limiting the maximum level rank to #99. but it would make some levels more important than others, which is what i would like to avoid.

2.gradually decrease the influence of the level rank. eg. each level rank position for #1-#50 counts as 1 pt, but #50-#100 gives only 0,5 pt per rank, #100-#150 is 0,25 per rank and so on. effectively, even with a huge number of players on certain levels we can ensure that each level influence can be limited to 100 pts and there is still a difference between #600 and #601 (in this case it would be 0,0002441406). i like this idea, but it is not very intuitive like the current "1 pt for each rank".

what do you think?
Spencer's game on Human Insides Spencer
!
Improving the global ranking calculation PrayeR
second idea. it' fair.

first idea - well, that means that level that was completed by many people is more important. and that's not true, because i think more fair if u will get more points if u complete "tough" level.
Improving the global ranking calculation Thiago
thank you for the explanation!

The first idea could be:
Vary the maximum number of points for the levels depending on the number of players on each LEVEL PACK. It would make the tough levels more important than the easy ones...

what do you think?
Time Trial Champions Ruben
I have a question. When will the levelpack explorer be launched?
Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
Sorry MATA. Now you can scream
Medals by Country Ruben
Why is Costa Rica #13 if it should be in #11 because I have a gold medal and 4 bronze medals?

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Medals by Country Ruben
That's better.
Sqare Time Trial PrayeR
damn, same time
Medals by Country PrayeR
as i understand - "medals by country" are updated once per hour (or something like that)
Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
Sorry MATA. Now you can scream.
Hill Time Trial PrayeR
would be good to have possibility to read comments even if game is secret. just strange to see that there are comments but u can not read them

but that's question to SZ
Hill Time Trial PrayeR
Ruben
gj and funny description of the game
S-n-T's game on Riding School Part 2 PrayeR
nice 1
Fly! Time Trial PrayeR
wow, MATA.
N1!
Medals by Country PrayeR
3rd, well for some time
Sqare Time Trial PrayeR
omg, there are 3 ways to do 26.xx. or i would say - 4th. one is too hard.
RogueNine's game on The Right Way Ruben
Nice one. This deserves #1. Keep up the good work.
PrayeR's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
tnx Volcano
OrR's Levels Lee
Nice one PrayeR - I think we are just scared of the avatar!
Oliver's game on Sawtooth c.i....
Really is uncommon to have the lead in a level by over a second
OrR's Levels PrayeR
lol.
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
nothing new
i hate this level.
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
nothing new
i hate this level.
PrayeR's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
tnx Volcano
OrR's Cave Time Trial Dags
This level has become my new most hated level - Aaarghhh! I hate YOU!
Time Trial Champions Dags
Right - just overtook Rouch back - only just mind

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Loop 1 Time Trial Dags
34 secs possible if you nail every section and get the bounce just right at the end.
Dags's game on Loop 1 Dags
Thanks to You Qi for the tip - now who is gonna steal my ONLY gold??
Sqare Time Trial Sena
I love this level, it just... works!
Sena's game on Tricky Sena
This methods makes the drop so much easier to do
Sena's game on Tricky Sena
Backwards flip!
Lindinha's game on Malysz Sena
LOL! There a a few levels like this one. Level 8 is one example, SL's Cave is another. Good timing as well! You get 1 vote.
Lindinha's game on Malysz Sena
Edit your game comment though
Dags's game on Loop 1 Sena
After searching through SL's and Master Ko's level results, I have finally found your gold! Well done Dags! Long deserved!
Loop 1 Time Trial Sena
Dags has done it betta!
RaymondH's game on Wheel Insider Sena
Seriously people, stop voting...
Sena's game on Tricky PrayeR
well, it's easy without "backwards flip" too.
dont see any difference
Dags's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
i will

well, very nice job Dags. i am glad that you have gold now, u really deserved it.
Dags's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
btw, tip that you say u learned in You Qi's game is already shared long time ago. just try 2 c not only games from first top 5 or top 10.
Time Trial Champions Powerman
New Levelpack by XA-Software:
==> http://pdassi.de/product.php?prod_id=24768
The 4th Levelpack from XA Software

All Levelpacks at: http://www.emuboards.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=17198
Loop 1 Time Trial PrayeR
33 is possible.
Dags's game on Loop 1 Dags
Thanks for the comments guys!

Prayer - the tip is not the end of the level thing, which as far as I know, it was Rouch who was first to announce it - I'm talking about something I picked up in the middle of the level from You Qi's video which enables the bike to sit nicely before the return journey from the right .
Rouch.'s game on Loop 1 Dags
What's with the double ghosts Rouch? This should probably be removed.
Bottle Time Trial Dags
Prayer - I doubt it - the results are always in the evens for this level for some reason. It's hard to get under 6:30 on a great day! I've done a 6:30 10 times now - all slightly different, saved them all and analysed them to see if there's something to do to get faster. Luck maybe?
Tabs's game on Moon Madness Dags
eh??
Dags's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
i was talking about right part of the map too.


anyway, gj

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OrR's Cave Time Trial PrayeR
try it in the maner that OrR and Dai did, it's not so annoying (i mean i am getting mad when i play this level in such way) like the way that Rachman! discovered, at least for me.
dai's game on Downhill Madness Dags
I want to understand this tip but I can't. Where exactly do you brake? After landing the first jump? Before accelerating for the second jump? As you take off? Any help appreciated Dai.
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 Dags
I agree - this level is not much fun. I hate the ones where you have to keep trying over and over again and the start is a real pain in the ass!
dai's game on Riding School Dags
Dai! Stop beating me by 0.02secs! OK?
PrayeR's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
i am really sorry Dags
Dags's game on Bottle PrayeR
got my too
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
Dags, i usually play about 5-10 minutes per day.

but i must say: i played this level more than 1 hour without stop to get this time, and i can not look at this level anymore...

try to play Outline + disable all additional graphics (those gras) - it's a little bit more easier then.
Time Trial Champions Rouch
Wow !!! Really good job Dags, you take a lot of points. It will be hard now to beat you, first I have to overtook Balint.
Congratulations !!!
Loop 2 Time Trial Sena
NOOOOOOO! I HAVE A 18:30 SECOND TIME AND MY HOTSYNC IS STUFFED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PrayeR's game on Loop 1 Sena
And so you should be!
PrayeR's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
i hope this 18.30 game will dissapear
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
that was joke of course
Time Trial Champions Ruben
My friend Chacho, cannot get to his profile because his password does not work. He asked me to find out how to get to his profile if his password does not work.
Loop 2 Time Trial Sena
Yay! Uploaded! Sorry PrayeR, but the medal, tis MINE!
PrayeR's game on Loop 1 Dags
No probs mate - knew it wasn't gonna last. Well done!
Dags's game on Watch your head Dags
OPening this up - surprised my bronze lasted so long - the secret is the first part of the map and the middle part going left - DON'T BRAKE!
Sena's game on Loop 2 You Qi
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
dai's game on Downhill Madness Oliver
hi dags, i think brake is applied just after the first landing but just a little. then aim on the angle between the floor where you landed and the next floor to get a good acceleration. the rest is luck...
PrayeR's game on Loop 1 PrayeR
tnx Dags
btw, u made right part better than me, so if u will improove your riding in the left part of map - u will do 33.xx

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Sena's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
hehe, nice one
Loop 2 Time Trial PrayeR
ermm. anyway gold was not mine
Zip-Zap Time Trial PrayeR
rachman! is back
Time Trial Champions Sz
ruben+chacho: contact support@toyspring.com regarding this password problem.
btw. the levelpack explorer is almost ready and will be launched in 1-2 days. at the same time the new hall of fame levelpack will be added
Oliver's game on Double Sprint Dags
Wow! Excellent control - never thought of keeping it in reverse like that. Nice one!
Lee's game on Double Sprint Dags
PrayeR you need to try harder

I've tried at least 500 times if not closer to one thousand times to do this level in under 22 secs. No luck so far.
Time Trial Champions Dags
Sz Quote: "at the same time the new hall of fame levelpack will be added"

Wow! Just as I was going to ask - nice one! I can't wait!
dai's game on Downhill Madness Dags
OK I think I get what you mean - I'll try it a few times to see if I can get a feel, but this level is hard to be consistent at (a little like level 2). Maybe I'll get lucky. I think the start sequence is probably the most important in order to determine the landing - no?
Downhill Madness Time Trial Dags
Thanks Dai - I got it on about the 5th go!
Dags's game on Downhill Madness Dags
Woohoo!
dai's game on Downhill Madness Dags
OK I got a good time on the 5th go! Thanks Dai and Oliver for the tips.
PrayeR's game on Cave 2 Dags
Wow! Is anyone else like me - I average 2-3 hours per day at the weekends and at least 1-2 hours during the week.

It takes me an hour each way to get to work.
Freestyle Competition monkeydave
Why do failed runs get to compete in freestyle? I think you should have to complete the level in order for a freestyle submission to be valid.

Oh - and check mine out. I went down the entire HILL on my front tire. Then I got stuck at the end and screwed up my time. Damn it.
Sena's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
btw, big luck doing 2 !boosts!

i stil have problems with it.. can do only 1...
Andres s's game on Riding School Andres s
gota make beter time
Dags's game on Loop 1 You Qi
good job dags!
dai's game on Downhill Madness dai
Sorry Dags,and thanks Oliver!
This route makes 11.10~11.50...
Not all luck,i think.
monkeydave's game on Hill Dags
Aarghh MonkeyDave!! So unlucky at the end there! This could've been the world record. Better luck next time.
JohnnyELF's game on Riding School JohnnyELF
very interesting take 1.flag but i haven't luck on finish...
dai's game on OrR's Cave PrayeR
n1!

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monkeydave's game on Hill monkeydave
Dude, tell me about it! I got to the rock, looked at my time (18 or so) and freaked out! I could barely hit the little buttons on my Treo!!!!
PrayeR's game on Cablecar PrayeR
nothing new
Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Ruben
Great free fall and nice flip after the free fall. You have my vote.
Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Ruben
Look at my freestyle. It is currently in #33.
Dags's game on Downhill Madness Oliver
could have been faster if the rear wheel touched the flag...
Time Trial Champions You Qi
Sad news... my clie jog dial is getting dull, I pushed up 10times and the system only detected 1 time. perhaps is caused by frequent usage for BoD. It's a break for me after sending for warranty.
PrayeR's game on Cablecar You Qi
almost there, keep it up!
Newsvels in Hall of Fame
New medals are waiting!
 You Qi Levels
News
The new  Forum grows on the old Hall of Fame commenting system. It allows for better organized talks (with threads). For now there is no notification on new messages, but you can easily spot new messages on the initial "All messages" page.
News Explorer
Finally, there is a place where you can find all "Bike or Die" levels! Enter here: Levelpack Explorer
In addition to the usual comments you can also rate all levels - let the world know your opinion. I hope this will help us selecting the best levels for the Hall of Fame, but will be also very convenient for everyone looking for news levels .

New levelpacks are always welcome support@toyspring.com
You Qi Levels You Qi
hehe, my level!
Time Trial Champions You Qi
I saw something new... !
PrayeR's game on Cablecar PrayeR
You Qi
i dont think i can make time better than yours...
50.xx seems to be unreachable for me...
You Qi Levels PrayeR
hehe, very tough... and such fresh level pack.
Levelpack Explorer Dags
And very nice it all looks too! Thanks Sz for all the good stuff and hard work. I can't tell you how much we all appreciate the work you put into keeping this the best game out there.
Levelpack Explorer You Qi
Sz is a truly proffesional programmer, from idea to games till the web, he worked up everything himself! prompt in giving out supports and even helps us kindly in programming questions. Thank you Sz! and thx again for bringing us such a wonderful games.
Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
so bad, so i won't share it..
Teapot Time Trial PrayeR
nice, very very nice level
Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
that would be populat level
Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
i ment - populaR.

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You Qi Levels You Qi
actually I got a non-rectangle shaped version for all the levels in this levelpack... but I thought Sz will edit for me... anyway, the gameplay is still the same.
Aleksey's game on Skyway Nik
PLEASE publish it
Aleksey's game on Skyway Aleksey
No problem!
Ideas Dags
A few suggestions
In the next version could we:

1) Be allowed to reprogram the 're-start level again' that defaults to the 'brake' button to any button please. We can just about reprogram everything else but this would be very handy for me. It used to be the 'down' button which was bette r for me but it suddenly changed.

2) Add a button to restart the level at any time. I have to go menu, restart now if I mess up enough to warrant a restart which is not great when I don't have the stylus out. Maybe 2 clicks would be required to stop an accidental push.

3) As Rouch and some others mentioned - have a ghost function on the website replays where we can directly compare runs against a real time ghost of another player.

4) Allow us to see the time on a website replay so we can see where people are at certain times in a run.

5) Bring back the clock in game from the start of the run. It always used to be there and in the latest version it doesn't appear there until 13 seconds in. I sometimes want to see if I got off to a flyer or not and know when I should abort a bad run.

Thanks for listening Dags
Ideas Dags
Ehem ...
Is there anyway to edit a comment once you post it? I make far too many typos.
Ted Chang's game on Sinus Mountains Ted Chang
too hard to play
Biker's Cafe Dags
2nd best game on palm after BoD?
Not that I play or have played any other games since getting BoD last July, but ....

What do you reckon would be the next most addictive game? My vote at the moment goes to one of these 3:

1) TextTwist by Astraware
2) Legacy by Redshift
3) Top of the League by Tony Kingsmill

Any other great games I should know about. You never know when you need something else to play whilst trying to calm down after messing up a level for the hundredth time in a row.
Ted Chang's game on Sinus Mountains Dags
Practice and more practice Ted. The game will get easier and far more rewarding.
B.O.D. - YouQi Levels Dags
You Qi the 'Evil Lord'!!

Damn these are hard! I'm not used to taking 2 hours to complete the first 2 levels! Evil person, evil.
Dags's game on Downhill Madness Dags
I know - why didn't I just level out the rear wheel when I had the perfect chance?
You Qi Levels in Hall of Fame Dags
Wow! Nice one You Qi! These are not for the faint hearted though
Ehem ... Sz
not yet, but i have this feature on my todo list
A few suggestions Sz
well... problems 2) and 5) were introduced by the full screen mode, you can disable it, and then the restart level button can be used and the game clock doesn't disappear.
3) and 4) are certainly good ideas, it's nice to have this written here. 1) is a side effect of the new keyboard handling system (the previous one had problems on different devices, now i see that they both have their disadvantages).
thank you for your suggestions
Ideas Sz
Zoom out - see more area
Several people have proposed this, i'm putting it here to confirm it is on the official todo list.
Ideas Sz
Submit link
I put it inside the Hall of Fame page instead of the page header - is it a good idea? some people seem confused. what is your opinion?
Levelpack Explorer Sz
First of all - thank you for creating these levelpacks!
Information about the creators might be sometimes buggy, tell me if something is wrong or if you are active Hall of Fame players so i can create the proper player profile links.
You Qi Levels PrayeR
You Qi
i just played all your leves and must say - very good job,
solid and good levels.
You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
Leha, lozhis' uzhe spat'
You Qi Time Trial Aleksey
You Qi's game on Tatra PrayeR
yep, same idea, strange that was not discovered before

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Aleksey's game on Skyway Nik
thanks, but i found the way by myself
BikeOrDie - Just Forget theONE
i hope eveyone enjoies these levels... i sure do. also check out my better levels- BoorDom
Levelpack Explorer theONE
hey, SZ this is a great idea(but how did u get my levels)anyway thaks for putting them and it cool to get other peoples. Check out mine- Just forget and BoorDom
2nd best game on palm after BoD? PrayeR
Seven Seas
Calcroque
War of the Wizards
Levelpack Explorer PrayeR
hey, your level pack "test the limits" (i called it right?)
is pretty cool.
Teapot Time Trial PrayeR
the key is begining... most difficuilt par of the map...
Levelpack Explorer Tiger
Hey, I'm Tiger Productions Thanks for putting up all the levels
Levelpack Explorer Ruben
Hey Prayer, did you like mine?
Submit link Dags
Took me 5 mins to find it. Doesn't hurt to have it on the main pages.
2nd best game on palm after BoD? Lee
The Orginal Bubbles B5, before they made it high rez and added so monay bubbles it was too easy - it's just evil on "master" mode
B.O.D. - YouQi Levels Bill
very difficult levels. I think they will be hard to imporve times on
You Qi Levels Dansexy
You should do more levels in your next level pack.
Submit link Lee
I agree - you could almost sprinkle it around in lots of places - perhaps a main link, perhaps on your own profile pages (but that would not work for first-time submitters)

Given that submitting times and seeing others is generally why I come here (in that order)
Home Sweet Home Time Trial You Qi
toughest level for me.
You Qi Time Trial You Qi
You Qi Levels You Qi
lack of idea actually
2nd best game on palm after BoD? You Qi
I just know I addicted to "Xeno" game before the arrival of BoD.
You Qi Levels Sena
There is gonna be chaos until places are sorted out!
You Qi Levels Sena
woah these are dam hard. dunno you qi...
Teapot Time Trial Sena
this level is evil

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dai's game on OrR's Cave Oliver
master class...
You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
this is gonna be the most hatefull level for me in this level pack
Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
yes, that's true

but i like the begining
Levelpack Explorer PrayeR
did not check it yet
You Qi Levels PrayeR
ok, they are hard if we are talking about - getting good times, but actually it's not hard to complete them all,
that's is very good.
Report a bug Lee
Odd Control Behaviour
Equipment Tungsten T3
Occasionaly, the controls go silly, and on restarting a level, the bike randomly controls itsself.
I can fix by dropping out of the game and re-starting, so not a big issue.
Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
it can be done in 40 sec...
Submit link Sz
ok, "submit" is back
Loop 2 Time Trial You Qi
my game is publiced.
Ideas You Qi
Emotion icon shortcut
may I have a list of all emotion icon shortcuts?
Zoom out - see more area You Qi
I dont mind to have a such feature on the coming BoD.
Report a bug You Qi
Another Control Behaviour
I just played BoD on my sis palm just now, and now only I realised that we can turn our bike while accelerating! Becoz this doesn't work which Clie Jog Dial! I control my bike everytime by release the accelerate button and then turn my bike and then only press down the accelerate button again! is this a bug or something?
Newsevel List
See all levels on a single page! Here (warning: 300K)
Another Control Behaviour Lee
I have to do the same thing on my T3.
I think it is something to do with having configured the D Pad to do some of the controls (I have a pretty odd configuration, that I finally worked out)
Not that it seems to slow you down You Qui!
Improving the global ranking calculation Elephant
What about calculating like this:
R = your rank at level (1 being best)
N = number of people who completed that level

POINTS FOR EACH LEVEL COMPLETED
100 * (N - R) / N).

(I just chose 100, but choose whatever makes sense.)

With a scheme like that, you could even eliminate the need to give separate points for # of levels completed. (Upper or harder levels will have less people and therefore be worth more.)

True, it would make some levels worth more than others, but if they're more difficult to achieve (arrive at or complete), then they should be worth more. And if somewhere in the middle a level is super-easy, it will not count for much.
Improving the global ranking calculation Elephant
OOPS, that's:
100 * (N - R) / N

monkeydave's game on Teapot monkeydave
Holy crap I have a medal! I bet it doesn't last long. May balls of camel dung collect in the armpits of the person who beats me.
Teapot Time Trial Sena
lol, go monkey
Levelpack Explorer theONE
i like my BoorDom the most but jsut forgot and test the limits are cool too(the names for level packs rule!)
Circle of Death theONE
copy of my levels

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Teapot Time Trial PrayeR
actually 35.xx is very good time for this level, so probobly u will have this medal long time.
Rouch's game on You Qi Rouch
Really hard level, hopefully the last mine seems to be not very sensitive
Rouch's game on You Qi PrayeR
very nice

good job!
Dags's game on Double Sprint chimon
Nice bouncing man.
Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
pod nizom proshel.
slozno blin.. u menja toka paru raz poluchilos'
Rouch's game on You Qi You Qi
someone beaten me.
Odd Control Behaviour Thiago
It also happens with mine (t3)!
Mount Kinabalu Time Trial You Qi
wow!! 38sec
36 is possible.(should be the perfect game)
Spencer's game on Mount Kinabalu Spencer
So horrible, I'm ashamed to show it...
Aleksey's game on Shark! Dags
yeah - I agree!

Any chance of an English translation please.
Nose Time Trial You Qi
dont think there's any trick.. it's so straight forward.
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
My JogDial problem, if not I already won the goal medal.
OrR's Cave Time Trial You Qi
nope, I think Rouch is the 1st 1 who discovered(instead of Rachman!)and post the movie here.
Aleksey's game on Shark! You Qi
lol.
Skyway Time Trial You Qi
PrayeR, another route?
Rouch's game on You Qi Rouch
Yes You Qi and I'm rellay proud to beat you in the You Qi level. But I'm sur that my gold medal won't last long as I have lost some time at the end to jump the last mine.
Emotion icon shortcut Dags
: + ) =
; + ) =
: + > =
: + < = :<
: + D =
: + P =
: + ] =
: + [ =
; + ( =
: + | =
Emotion icon shortcut Dags
Ooops messd up #3 should have been:

: + ( =

Odd Control Behaviour Dags
I can report the same here - very occasional tough maybe one in 100 times on my T3
Skyway Time Trial Dags
I reckon you can get lucky on the jump back down - you can catch the the lone flag if you time it right.

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Home Sweet Home Time Trial Dags
My run was shameful! I got stuck between the TV and sofa on the way back. LOL!
Rouch's game on Oil Drop Rouch
I take back the gold Prayer
Times in this level will be very close
Prayer if you are looking for your medal You Qi take it, it's not mine anymore
Home Sweet Home Time Trial You Qi
lol. A Mystery Level! everyone is secret their game...
You Qi's game on Oil Drop You Qi
I take back the gold Rouch
Times in this level will be very close, lol!
PrayeR, find Rouch to take back your Silver Medal.
Home Sweet Home Time Trial Rouch
I make it private because everyone make it, but honestly there is nothing special in this level, just very very hard.
You Qi's game on Oil Drop Rouch
Arrrggghh !! My Gold medals My precious
Home Sweet Home Time Trial You Qi
there's a large gap between everyone.
Emotion icon shortcut Sz
well done dags, this is a complete list
Nose Time Trial PrayeR
and that is the trick
You Qi's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
i dont worry, will take it back
Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
yeah, i take both flags at the same time. then back to rail and then going up the rail and going down.
Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
hhh,
i said that he went to finish flag under the fish, it's possible, i did it 3 times! but that's is damn hard.
OrR's Cave Time Trial PrayeR
ok, Rouch discovered.
Emotion icon shortcut You Qi
thank you dags! :}
You Qi's game on Oil Drop You Qi
you mean ur silver? lol!
You Qi's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
i mean - gold
PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
I take back the gold You Qi
Times in this level will be very close
Rouch, find You Qi to take back your Silver Medal.
Rouch's game on Oil Drop Rouch
Heheheheheee !!! Gold medal is mine for now ! I love this game. Good luck PrayeR and You Qi
You Qi's game on Oil Drop You Qi
LOL! It's mine! This level is mine!!
PrayeR's game on Oil Drop You Qi
you are pushing down to Bronze again!

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Rouch's game on Oil Drop You Qi
Good luck to you too!
Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
i hate u both, dont have time to play but have too...
PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
peace.
Aleksey's game on Shark! Aleksey
Look this!
Tatra Time Trial PrayeR
gold medal is not the most important thing in this world.
You Qi's game on Oil Drop You Qi
I still got another replay... who beat me and I will submit it!
You Qi's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
no, very soon u go to bed, so won't be able to submit something. hahahha lol
Oil Drop Time Trial You Qi
lol... pls, I need a medal.
You Qi's game on Oil Drop You Qi
lol... another 3more hours to 12am at here.
Ideas You Qi
TimeZone Time?
If I'm not mistaken the time here is based on Poland? what about making a specific time for everyone? we can set our timezone in our profile there.
You Qi's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
heh, i counted wrong...
Aleksey's game on Shark! You Qi
yep! that's almost a perfect game.
Aleksey's game on Shark! You Qi
Well Done!
Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
Lesha
aga, t.e. tozhe poverhu...

no mozhno snizu nazad pojti, bystree, poprobuj.
u menja poluchaos'.
Tatra Time Trial You Qi
but goal medal is the objective of this game!
Rouch's game on You Qi You Qi
oops, sorry Rouch.
SiuLun's Levels Allen
Hi, all!!

My 2nd Levels pack is coming, new in final checking stage, hope you will like it!
Emotion icon shortcut Allen
: + D thank you dags
Tatra Time Trial PrayeR
the main goal of gaming - is having fun
Levelpack Explorer The Two
shut up the one my level packs are way better

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Levelpack Explorer The Two
hey sz can u get my new levels soon, i mean the updated eric's levels
Finding Mice Time Trial Dags
thwmmmphhhphphphph!!

Is all I can say about this level

You Qi - what's the point of the start if you don't mind me asking? Were you trying to create the fiddliest level in the world?
Fruits Time Trial You Qi
FYI, the 1st fruit is banana(lol, like a carrot!) while second 1 is an apple(with worm), third 1 is Durian(wondering anyone here tasted this fruit before?) and the last 1 is orange.
Aleksey's game on Shark! Dags
Prayer, can you provide English translations please. Some of us don't speak you native tongue.

Tatoeba, boku ga konna fu ni kaitara, wakaranai deshou? chotto shitsurei ja nai ka?

Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
i said that he should try to go to finish flag under the small fish. becasue that is fast and i did that - so it's possible.
Finding Mice Time Trial PrayeR
i agree with Dags.
Fruits Time Trial Sena
thanks for the info on the fruits! I was lost about the apple
Skyway Time Trial Sena
That's hwo I did it, except i think i left something out because my time is double.
Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
who said u should go down?
u just go back it's not that hard.
Levelpack Explorer Sena
Amen to that!
2nd best game on palm after BoD? Thiago
Space Trader
Seven Seas
Plant Tycoon

they're awesome! =))
Dags's game on Skyway Dags
Opening this up - I assume this is how PrayeR did it as well but much faster
Dags's game on Skyway Dags
OK - This is the way to do this - assuming PrayeR used the same technique. Good luck all!
Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
yep, Dags, right way...
well, sad that u made game public so fast..

now peoples who play better than we, but dont discover tricks will beat us...
Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
yes Dags, that way..

sad that u made movie public so fast.
Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
ops, sorry, forgot to made movie public...
nothing interesting though...

personaly i am not going to pay this level anymore. no fun.
PrayeR's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
so bad...
PrayeR's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
so bad...
You Qi Time Trial Bálint2
Tough level, but you can do it much faster.
Skyway Time Trial Sena
Opps I See now...

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Teapot Time Trial Sena
Wrong!
Teapot Time Trial PrayeR
and?
The Triforce. Krasnall
Fischer?
Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
I was gold for about 3 minutes.
Spencer's game on Skyway PrayeR
u r right..

Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
u c it Dags?
u make something public - someone beat u - and make his game secret. that's the lesson.
BikeOrDie - rdb's levels Dansexy
Good one.
Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
Wow, I didn't think I would lose it THAT fast!
Levelpack Explorer Dansexy
Did you all know that the level 0: "Bike or die title" can be played?
Spencer's game on Skyway PrayeR
i just have many replays that i made before.
Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
so feel free to take my bronze
Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
17.50 - 17.60 is limit. at least it seems to me so.
Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
Back to Gold!
Dags's game on Skyway Dags
I don't like to keep things secret if I've copied someone else's style - you already told us how to do it, so ...
Levelpack Explorer Dags
NO WAY!!

How?? Please explain?
Skyway Time Trial Dags
So ... it's just a game mate - have fun, don't take it too seriously. I'd rather help than be a sneaky bassa. Know what I mean.
Skyway Time Trial Dags
As in Spencer!! Reveal your replay man! How dare you copy someone and claim all the glory for yourself. Where are your morals? Young people today, sheesh, I tell you .... When I were a lad ....
Skyway Time Trial Spencer
Dags - I'm with PrayeR in that it was a bad idea to share your replay so quickly. And besides, you don't need to see my replay to beat my time, I pretty much did the same as you and PrayeR.
TimeZone Time? Sz
that's correct, it was central european time
but now the forum and comments should display your local time regardless of the timezone!
(javascript does the trick, i hope it works on all browsers? please  Report a bug if it does not)
Cave Time Trial Thiago
i have the worst time EVER! heheheeh
more than 5min... =P

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Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
to summarize:

1.current formula:
  • positive: easy to understand
  • negative: players worse than #99 gain 1 pt regardless on the rank


    2.decrease the pt/rank factor to always fit 100 points per level regardless of the number of players
  • positive: easy to understand
  • positive: tough levels give more points just by completing the level
  • negative/positive?: differences between ranks will be very small for crowded levels
  • negative/positive?: this would change the current ranking (because of different pt/rank factors)
  • negative: you can hurt your competitor by creating a number of fake players (thus decreasing pt/rank for this level)


    3.vary points for levels, hold 1 rank = 1 point
  • positive: easy to understand
  • positive: the current ranking (among champions) would not change (1 pt/rank)
  • negative: tough levels gain less points, should be opposite


    4.constant level points (99), 1 pt/rank for top players, decrease pt/rank factor for distant ranks to fit within 99 pts/level
  • positive: top players ranking would remain unchanged
  • positive: tough levels allow to win more points just by completing them
  • negative: complicated formula

  • Teapot Time Trial monkeydave
    I knew I wasn't good enough to keep a gold. I'm happy about the bronze though.

    I actually did a run where I went over the right side of the top by the bomb but it didn't help my time.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Spencer
    But Bike Or Die isn't about completing levels, (well at least not for the better players)but how fast you can complete level. So I think less emphasis should be put on completing the level.
    Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
    Hopefully I'll have the gold longer this time
    Dags's game on Skyway You Qi
    wow! I dont even know there's such a way although this map is created by me! nice 1 dags!
    You Qi's game on Home Sweet Home You Qi
    yep, nothing much.
    Teapot Time Trial You Qi
    lol, someone found the cheat.
    Finding Mice Time Trial You Qi
    isn't that nice when a big gap between everyone?
    Skyway Time Trial You Qi
    yea yea! doesn't sounds nice when every tricks just figured out within a week after the map release.
    Levelpack Explorer You Qi
    lol... it's so easy. use RsrcEdit and copy the resouce of level0 out!
    TimeZone Time? You Qi
    Thx Sz! it works great in my IE, firefox, and opera browser.
    Report a bug You Qi
    E-mail policy
    Well, I found that the server seems like didn't show out our "ticked" value. After you ticked few of them and save it, the next time you come in all will return to unchecked checkbox again. and regarding the Ranking notification, is this function working? I don't think so...
    Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
    now i won't share any ideas how to play games never.
    that was last time.
    no sence.

    it's not about places Dags, it's about there are a lot of peoples who never share.


    u r not with me Spencer, i would say a lot about u but i am not going to swear hear.
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    yep, Dags, but now i won't.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
    You Qi
    i thnk your 38 sec game is already perfect!
    it's seems to be impossible fo me!

    good JOB!
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    yeah, c how to do it and then make your movie "private".
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    btw, Dags, ANSWER on my Private Messages please.
    i am waiting.
    Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
    You Qi
    there a some other ways to finish, and all below 40 sec.
    just this way is fastest.

    maybe i will play them and then will show how to do it, but it won't be so fast like this one.
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    u can do it in such way.
    Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
    here, who dont want to go down the rail can finish the level in this maner http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=20500

    if u will be able to get good times - plz make your movie Public.

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    Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
    32-33 sec is possible with this new rote (see in my previous message)
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    32-33 sec. is possible with this route
    Rouch's game on Shark! PrayeR
    would be hard to beat your time

    very nice bike handling
    Teapot Time Trial PrayeR
    hehe, yeah, in 10 attemptes i am able to pass under the mine too.
    so times would drop to 30 sec or something.
    Rouch's game on Shark! You Qi
    yep, very very nice control there Rouch! congratulation!
    TimeZone Time? Sz
    good!
    funny thing is i can't see a difference (for obvious reasons )
    Medals by Country Hafiz
    Wow, someone else from Malaysia who is a BoD addict! =D I haven't been playing it for quite some time, but now I'm inspired to start the frustration again. =P
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    Wow i'm 5th! Bet this doesn't last long
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    I was so amazed when it happened. I thought it wasn't going to be good because i almost lost it just before the loop. PrayeR, i haven't managed to do it again! I to have only been able to do 1 boost, but, as my movie shows, 2 is possible...
    Oil Drop Time Trial Sena
    Poor rouch.
    You Qi Levels Sena
    yay, completed em all. Now to improve...
    Teapot Time Trial Sena
    that's how i originally was doing it, then i discovered how to make the jump
    Sena's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
    yeah, i think u can sleep relaxed for now with your gold.
    very very hard to do 2 boosts.

    until Oliver will start to play this level
    Dags's game on Oil Drop Dags
    Mind if I interrupt the party?
    PrayeR's game on Skyway Dags
    Nice one Prayer - I wonder if this way is faster though. It takes quite a bit of time to get off the rail as well
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
    You Qi and Sena
    your begin is slower than my.
    do like i did.
    Dags's game on Home Sweet Home Dags
    ok I come clean in the official 'comin out' of crap runs in this level - take my shameful silver now.
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    i made 33 sec. with this route.
    but in theorie it is not faster than like i and u did.
    just another route and i like it more than previous...

    now i am thinking that it's probably possible to go up the rail then drop - go down, and take both flags and go direct to finish... looks like pretty impossible.. but who knows.
    PrayeR's game on Home Sweet Home Dags
    aye - not as good as mine and that was bad This level stinks basically
    Dags's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
    and again.. slow begining

    look at my game to c how to do it right

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    Levelpack Explorer Dags
    Oh! That's cheating though - I thought there was some way of playing that level - I wish it was put in as a bonus. You can only get it if you complete all 25 levels. It has it's own seperate championship that's not part of the mainone.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Dags
    Could we have a seperate "time challenge" ranking like we did in the PDA247 competition that you did (and I won *cough*)?

    I think that would be cool and a good alternate way of looking at all results. Basically all your times are added up, regardless of position and the player with the smallest number is #1. It's quite a fun chart. Just do one mega challenge with all the official levels and official add ons counted.
    Time Trial Champions Dags
    What odds are you offering on 2 days Sena
    You Qi Time Trial Dags
    Hey Balint! Welcome back - did you get a new palm or something - trying to have 2 players in the top 10? Anyway - good to see you old chap
    Teapot Time Trial monkeydave
    yeah - I think making the jump is faster than gingerly trying to pass beneath the mine
    Dags's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    i dont, but probably Rouch has something against it
    Levelpack Explorer Sz
    surprise! type: icanread + [enter] (while playing) and see what happens.
    it is much easier if you have a keyboard but is doable with graffiti, too. (graffiti enter is diagonal stroke like a slash from right to left)
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice PrayeR
    shared.
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Dags
    Well done Sena - you deserve the gold mate.
    Levelpack Explorer Dags
    Wow! Can we submit it as a freestyle? In fact can any level from anywhere be submitted as a freestyle? Thanks for the tip Sz.
    PrayeR's game on Mount Kinabalu PrayeR
    shared
    You Qi Time Trial Bálint2
    I've changed my user ID. That is why I should create a new player.
    Teapot Time Trial You Qi
    dont think so, passing down the mine would be faster
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial You Qi
    yea thx. but nope, I took the 1st Flag at 12sec time. it should be 10 if I want for a perfect game.
    Dags's game on Home Sweet Home You Qi
    PrayeR, nice discovery for the beginning route!
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial You Qi
    yea, thx for that!
    Levelpack Explorer Dags
    To answer my own question - whilst a fun little level, there is no finish flag and the server rejects it as an unknown level. Bummer!
    BikeOrDie - BG Levels Bg
    Started this levelpack so my kid's had some levels to play that were moderate in dificulty, but as new levels were added, the difficulty started bumping up to moderate-dificult.

    Should be no sweat for this crowd...
    High Jump Bg
    Level note: On the bottom curve, you can actually outpace the screen display if you do not brake. Pretty cool!!!
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
    that's true, 10 sec for first flag is possibe.

    so we wait for 36sec game from u

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    Tabs's game on You Qi Dags
    As usual Tabs - well done!
    Bálint's game on Mount Kinabalu Dags
    What's the point of keeping all your stuff secret? It would be nice to see some of your replays sometimes Balint.
    Rouch's game on Shark! Rouch
    Thank you ! I'm sure someone will make a better time ! Maybe by not going near the mines and run directly ! Anyway I don't like shark
    PrayeR's game on Skyway Rouch
    Wow ! Really nice idea , at first I have the same idea to go back from the cable but have no idea how to get the 2 flags downstairs. You find the trick ! Congratulations
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    tnx Rouch.
    nice to hear good words from You
    Time Trial Champions Dags
    Wow! Any takers on 10 hours!
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    Dang! Poor dags though, gone from 3rd to 4th
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    Thanks heaps dags and all. I private msged oliver once pointing out the other levels, but i don't think he will download If he does, he will probably only get Silun and work until he's first at that. BTW dags, nice aussie term there (mate)
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    Very very fast and a hard 2 boosts!
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    Vote for this if you like it
    Oil Drop Time Trial You Qi
    grrr.... if I know I would submit earlier!
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial You Qi
    nope... no more games from me already! my pda will send for warranty today or tomorrow. See you guys! will be out for few weeks
    Fruits Time Trial Spencer
    Durians are really good, but they smell terrible!
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    heh, yeah, i know what u r feeling.
    Oil Drop Time Trial You Qi
    somewhow I got my new record.
    Fruits Time Trial You Qi
    but I like noth the taste and smell!
    Fruits Time Trial You Qi
    *both
    You Qi's game on Zip-Zap Lee
    Love the way you come down on the acceleraotr - FAST
    Shame about 2 of the turns on the way up.
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    somehow?
    i know how! playing whole day and night!
    kinda lol.
    BikeOrDie - Test the Limits Hafiz
    Heh, why does this pack have such a high difficulty rating? It's pretty easy compared to the other level packs (*cough*YouQi*cough* ). But that's why it's fun; for a cheap-skate like me at least.. =P

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    B.O.D. - YouQi Levels Hafiz
    Pure evil. At least the first level anyway >.<
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Dags
    Sena - I was given the name Dags by a good Aussie friend actually and it kinda stuck, been using it for the last 10 years.
    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    13.xx is possible
    You Qi Levels You Qi
    I saw someone from Malaysia!
    You Qi Time Trial Tabs
    I agree about 13.xx seconds.
    You need to get a lot of things
    right but it is possible.

    Speedy hill. Bill
    I don't think this level is possible
    Snowball War! Bill
    Again... don't think this one is possible
    Same as lvl 11, but, What the??? Bill
    This is strange... and I don't think it's possible to complete... i havae tried every key combination and can't even see my bike
    Speedy hill. PrayeR
    possible, i did it.
    Snowball War! PrayeR
    same thing, possible, i finished this level
    Levelpack Explorer c.i....
    How do you do it again? Just graffity "icanread" then enter?
    monkeydave's game on KL City Centre monkeydave
    I took a slow but easier alternate route
    monkeydave's game on Hill monkeydave
    I NEED A NEW FRONT TIRE NOW!!!
    Nate Borup's game on Underground Nate Borup
    i was copying another guy and i tried all night, and couldn't get it. then in school the first time i tried it i did it perfectly. ENJOY!
    BOD - MrD's Levels Powerman
    I think it´s the hardest Levelpack ever created!
    Great job MrD!!!!!
    You Qi Levels Hafiz
    Yep, I noticed; I posted about it in the Medals by Country section =D

    I never expected another person from Malaysia that would have BoD, and never EVER expected him to be the best at it

    Anyway, STILL can't beat the first level >_>

    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Hafiz
    Cave Run 2 (freeware) is really addictive, especially 'cause it has online highscores

    The one I'm REALLY addicted to right now is Timebomb, also freeware. It's even better than some of the Astraware games.. ^_^

    I'm now searching for Top of the Hill and Xeno.
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Hafiz
    Ah, Top of the League is a football management game. Not too interested in that. Xeno Hockey (is that what you're talking a bout?) looks pretty promising though, too bad it's shareware.
    Zoom out - see more area Hafiz
    It'll be great. Right now the bike takes up about half the screen, which is good for precision, but when falling down or going at high speed down a hill, it's pretty much left to luck. But the problems temporarily solved with the map now
    Levelpack Explorer Hafiz
    Nice! Somehow I was able to play that level before. It showed:

    "Level -1: Bike Or Die Title"
    That's right, negative one! I'm not sure how I got it; I wasn't paying attention when playing then it went to the title screen and the bike crashed in the title, for some reason. Then I pressed down to restart and guess what happened

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    Levelpack Explorer Hafiz
    Oh, c..i..., yes. Type it in the title screen.
    Aleksey's game on Shark! Aleksey
    Under the small fish.
    It's very, very hard.
    Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
    a mne pivo za ideju postavit'?
    Aleksey's game on Shark! Aleksey
    Dalekovato ehat'
    Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR


    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    btw, i like this level now, at first i was pi**ed off by begining, but after understanding how to do it - it's pretty easy.
    Nicolas's game on Skyway PrayeR
    nice possibility for back-jump.
    kewl.
    You Qi Levels You Qi
    I keep on promoting this game thru some of the crowded malaysian forum website like mypdacafe and lowyat. but no one seems like interested after a while of playing. sad.
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    argh
    Bálint's game on Mount Kinabalu Bálint
    OK
    Report a bug PrayeR
    question
    it's not a bug, i just want to ask SZ.
    on what depends intern counter in Bike or Die.
    i mean time.

    because sometimes system clock of palm devices runs faster or slower
    question PrayeR
    so the question it's 100% that on every palm device time in Bike or Die goes with the same speed?
    Odd Control Behaviour PrayeR
    on my T5 - same thing when i watch replay of game and then choose restart level.
    MiHaN's game on Skyway PrayeR
    nahuja delat' igru sekretnoj?
    ja vse pokazal, ty kopiruesh i delaesh sekretnoj...
    Snowball War! Bill
    how did you get past any of the obstacles
    I just don't see a way
    Dags's game on Skyway Dags
    Thanks
    Snowball War! You Qi
    pick up ur wheel and make a 360 degree flip
    Spencer's game on Downhill Madness Spencer
    11,36 is a pretty popular time...
    Snowball War! PrayeR
    You Qi answered
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    Dags, plz take gold medal on this level.
    my personal request.

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    Underground Time Trial PrayeR
    haha,
    Martin - 1 game - 1 gold.

    Oliver
    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    Lesha, u menja repleev do figa prosto
    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    ouch, forgot.
    translation for Dags: i just sad that i had this replay before.
    Bálint's game on Mount Kinabalu Dags
    Thanks man!
    You Qi Time Trial Dags
    LOL! Yeah - thanks buddy
    Tabs's game on You Qi Dags
    Super run Tabs - I have a long way to go on this level yet.
    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    this one too
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial Tabs
    'Bike or Die' has broken the buttons
    on my Plam too.I managed to fix it
    myself but I reckon it will break
    again soon.Great game.
    Tabs's game on You Qi Tabs
    Thanks Dags - but I have to go for
    the 13.xx now.

    Tabs's game on You Qi Tabs
    The buttons on my Palm are almost at
    fracture point.

    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    gl Tabs! i am 100% sure u will get 13.xx time!
    Report a bug Robin
    Pesky T3 controls bug!
    I've just got a T3 having played BOD loads on my Clie SJ30. But when playing on the T3, if I press any two buttons together (like forward & balance) the screen pans downwards! Its infuriating and basically impossible to play! Anyone know a fix? I tried different button combos, but still does it. It seems slightly better in landscape mode. Also, IMHO, the T3 buttons are too close together - what setup do you people use?
    monkeydave's game on Cloudwalk monkeydave
    Finally!!!! I hate this level. This is the only time I've ever even finished it.
    KL City Centre Time Trial PrayeR
    ffs.
    You Qi Time Trial PrayeR
    hard to advance... i already made about 10 games between 13.70 and 13.80
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    anyway 17.52.. it would be hard to beat this time...
    Tabs's game on You Qi Tabs
    11.XX - Maybe ???

    Underground Time Trial Oliver
    hi prayer =-o, yeah miracles do happen as you saw in this level , it's sad because i don't think martin is willing to share it (maybe). and i don't think i can't beat it . 17.86 is already sweat and blood for me... hehe...but let's see still....
    Underground Time Trial Oliver
    =_o
    Underground Time Trial Oliver
    i mean i don't think i "CAN" beat it.....(sorry)

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    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    gj Tabs!

    about 11.xx - i dont think so.
    Underground Time Trial PrayeR
    when are you going play SiuLun's Levels?

    u already unbeatable at standard levels.
    time to play first level pack
    You Qi Levels Hafiz
    Hehe, usual Malaysians aren't smart enough to spot a good game . Funny that I never went to lowyat or mypdacafe before; might go check it out.

    Oh, I finally beat level one today . It was trying to get the flag on the straw of the teh tarik (or ice milo or whatever other Malaysian drinks they are XD) that was too hard. I also beat Fruits; I was gonna complain about that damn durian XD but finally did it after a few tries.
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Dags
    It doesn't do that on my T3 - have you checked the key config ? Sounds like something weird there. Maybe you found a combination that diesn't work - The only panning I get is when I touch the screen itself.
    Aleksey's game on Shark! PrayeR
    ideal'no voshlo koleso v konce!
    Aleksey's game on Shark! Tabs
    SUPERB
    Dags's game on Skyway Dags
    Finally!
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    tnx Dags.
    Pazos's game on Finding Mice Andres s
    Nice... Costa Ricans in first 2 places in Finding Maze
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Andres s
    Thanks for sharing
    Pazos's game on Riding School Part 2 Andres s
    Nice one Pazos
    Bastien's game on Downhill Madness Andres s
    Nice.. impresive...
    MiHaN's game on Bike Impossible Andres s
    Nice MiHaN... good trick.
    What?'s game on Downhill Madness Andres s
    Nice Whtat?
    Lindinho's game on Malysz Andres s
    Mae que foto mas de cholo!!!
    Ian's game on Riding School Andres s
    Wow awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! ups sorry its secret dumbass!!!
    Spencer's game on The Right Way Andres s
    Nice
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    struth that's awsome! stick with it
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    Thank you to the person that beat rachman's time and caused me to goto top 10 without doing anything !
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Sena
    I have a T3 and i know what you mean. It is because you are pressing to hard and the metal is touching the 'hidden' bit when it's not stretched. Does this help?

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    Underground Time Trial Sena
    WOW! Martyn, any chance on use seeing this game?!
    Improving the global ranking calculation Rouch
    I think that time is the best way to rank people and give them point, and this will also give more accurate ranking.
    Underground Time Trial Martyn
    I would like to show everyone my clip but i forgot to click publish movie when i did it. Does any1 know how i can get the video on the site?

    P.s Two months of 15 tries a day paid off!!!
    Underground Time Trial Martyn
    Its ok ive done it enjoy my clip please leave me some comments!
    Martyn's game on Underground Martyn
    This took 2 months of 15 tries a day. The first time i saw it i was determined to do the same!
    Oliver's game on Underground Martyn
    Well Martyn has a perfect game now
    Martyn's game on Underground Martyn
    Very Very hard to do!
    Martyn's game on Underground Dags
    Well done Martyn! Thanks for sharing.
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Robin
    I think you are right Sena. I tried pressing on the casing just above the D-pad and it does the same thing! It does it sometimes even when it is stretched. I'll just have to try not pressing so hard! Thanks for your help!
    Martyn's game on Underground PrayeR
    wow. very nice Martin
    OrR's Levels Sena
    well done prauer
    Lindinho's game on Malysz Lindinha
    ei!! nao fala assim do meu namorado!!!
    Lindinho's game on Malysz Dags
    Was that a bit rude??
    question Sz
    the game TRIES to run at the same speed regardless of the palm speed.
    of course it uses the time information from the palm itself, which could be inaccurate, but the speed is very similar on 200MHz zodiac and 16MHz palm III.
    you can verify the real speed by measuring the replay time of any of your recordings.
    E-mail policy Sz
    both should work.
    but maybe the page with old checkboxes was cached? (try refreshing).
    as for the ranking notification, it is only sent when the global ranking changes (Time Trial Champions), and yours was not changed recently. i think we have to wait for rachman to see if the notification works for you
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    good idea, thanks!
    the time ranking is worth trying, i'm going to implement this as the additional measure and we will see how it works.
    the drawback(?) is that there will be the hard separation between people completing different number of levels. moreover, even if we compare times between players playing the same number of levels, the bigger levels will yield worse times so it is beneficial to complete fast levels first. of course it doesn't matter for real champions, who always complete all levels
    question PrayeR
    thx for the answer.
    i understand.
    Underground Time Trial Tabs
    Well done Martyn - get some more golds
    so the UK can move up the 'Medals by
    country' league.

    Martyn's game on Underground Oliver
    wow!!!i think this is a perfect game...thanks martyn
    Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
    correct!!! well i'm sure someone else out there is aiming for your gold medal....go get some more medals

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    Skyway Time Trial rachman!
    what about 29.58 secs?
    Skyway Time Trial PrayeR
    post it
    Improving the global ranking calculation You Qi
    Dags, good idea! like randomly choose some of the uncommon map(let's say 10) and then let us have 1week to play. Who win the competition will get a permanent goal medal!
    Bike Impossible Time Trial Oliver
    prayer, it's just some sort of breathing pattern to get a good jump on the platform....i have 14.28 on this level...
    Bike Impossible Time Trial PrayeR
    why u dont submit it?
    Oliver's game on Bike Impossible Oliver
    for you prayer...just follow the breathing pattern...now you can finish this fast...
    Oliver's game on Bike Impossible PrayeR
    tnx Oliver
    Improving the global ranking calculation Rouch
    Concerning time ranking, maybe you can set a default penalty time for a not completed level, for exemple 3 minutes. This will avoid people not completing a level having a better rank than someone who complete levels.
    Lindinho's game on Malysz Sena
    Sorry dude, but this was discovered a long time ago and appears on many levels (eg. Level 8 Vertical Avn, Level 4 Sinus mountains (Second hill))
    Tabs's game on You Qi Sena
    Definatly 11.xx, maybe even 10, the end is the key in this race. It would be possible to land at the end exactly so that you could swing under almost straight away. This would save around 1-2seconds.
    Aleksey's game on Shark! Sena
    Amazing.
    Standard Levels Sena
    well done dags! OLIVER!! YOU CHANGED UR PIC!! I don't know about anyone else, but personally i preferred the other one
    Martyn's game on Underground Sena
    Well done martyn, a well deserved medal. Oliver, just don't get to perfect gameness, I said that about Rachman, then it got beaten, and beating I expect that this will stick for a while though
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    WOW! Up to 9 votes! TY to those people
    Standard Levels Oliver
    but how come my picture remains the same...
    Standard Levels Oliver
    well, i can view my new pic on internet explorer but not on mozilla firefox which is the one i'm always using...don't know why ... well sena, i just feel i wan't to change my pic...you'll like it after sometime...hehe
    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    at first do it.
    Pazos's game on Hill Ruben
    Nice one Pazos. Linda mae.
    Oliver's game on Bike Impossible Sena
    woah oliver, you decide to download a pack
    Hank Chill Challenge Sena
    Well done to the creator, on an amazingly created level pack. Some of the levels in here are truly awsome, must of taken ages to create. However, they are extremly hard. A well worth pack to download.

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    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    i've had the minus one, gonna go check out this reading buisness now,
    Andres s's game on You Qi Ruben
    Ke hombre mae. You have my vote.
    Levelpack Explorer Tiger
    I can't get it to work I can't get the keyboard to work...
    PrayeR's game on Skyway Dags
    unlucky with ending prayer
    Bálint's game on Skyway Bálint
    Thanks Dags
    Pazos's game on Hill Andres s
    Mae Ruben es Pazos... Mae pura vida...
    Ruben's game on The Right Way Andres s
    Mae esta pichudo Rub... atte, Pazos & andres s
    Levelpack Explorer zelab
    i figured another way to get this.
    make a lvl using bike or design, save it as lvl 0.save the recording of that lvl - beat it.
    open the game you should be at the title level "bike or die"
    then try to play the recording.
    it should say "Level Map Mismatch".
    then exit there and it says Game Aborted.
    Then press down to play again and presto. Your on lvl 0 bike or die title.
    Pazos's game on Hill MATA
    ea pazos.. muy buena! good job man
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 Sena
    Nice oliver, you only submitting times that are first place?
    XA Software LP 2 Bálint
    My best time in this level is 7.58, so it isn't difficult.
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? snempaa
    ZDoomZ, a palmos5 doom engine! (yoyofr92.free.fr) -freeware!
    Aleksey's game on Shark! You Qi
    Amazing trick!
    E-mail policy You Qi
    I found why the problem occurs. Firstly, i think this only happen to IE browser, firefox seems working with the code.

    ok, so here's the problem:
    <input type="checkbox" name="erank" value="1" "checked">
    the "checked" should not be in bracket
    Dags's game on Skyway Sena
    lol, poor dags got beaten again
    Oliver's game on Jump Over Sena
    Nice oliver
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    I've heard that one before. Sz, are there anymore 'easter eggs' in the game?
    E-mail policy Sz
    oh, you're right, it was my fault :-O
    thanks!
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 Oliver
    thanks sena, well i just don't feel like submitting most of my lousy games....
    Aleksey's game on Shark! Oliver
    very nice tough guy

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    Report a bug snempaa
    fall into walls and ground
    As I am very addicted to BoD, i'm playing it all the time on my treo270, but now something really weird happended. In every level on every levelpack I just fall through all the walls and grounds at the start of the level so I die instantly (well not me but the cool guy on the bike). I think a reinstallation of the file will solve the problem, but I thought I'd mention it here first!

    Cya, Wouter
    Nik's game on Konecnik Down Nik
    HI HI my first medal !!!!!
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
    dont play OrR's levels!!!!!!

    lol.
    PrayeR's game on Skyway PrayeR
    yeah, sometime taking of finish flag is very strange thing...
    Dags's game on Skyway PrayeR
    and?

    they are just "repeaters". no single peace of thinkin'.
    Dags game is anyway better.
    XA Software LP 2 PrayeR
    u discovered a "w&#1088;eel"...
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    You QI! NEW PICTURE!
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 Sena
    lol, prayer, the die is cast...
    Tabs's game on Skyway Tabs
    I'm not sure if the 2 secret movies
    are done this way, if not, then
    try this route.
    One problem though - connecting with
    the Chequered flag at the end is hit and
    miss.
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Nik
    i thing i can do 24.80
    Konecnik Down Time Trial PrayeR
    damn
    Tabs's game on Skyway PrayeR
    nice
    Tabs's game on Skyway Spencer
    Yep, that's my route
    Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
    I could have saved time if my front wheel had hit the last flag...
    Rouch's game on Teapot PrayeR
    Rouch, what was that at the end?!!!!
    u lost 2 sec!!!!!
    Spencer's game on Skyway Sena
    Wouldn't of been much, not likely to get u under 30 in the 29.xx
    Spencer's game on Skyway Sena
    LOL! 2 minutes ago i commented on the other game. Well done Spencer!
    Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
    Thanks!
    Report a bug You Qi
    Link Error
    Click on the link on my name beside this text.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial You Qi
    just got my pda back 2 days ago... although they fixed the old problems, but they making more new problems to it! sigh! will send back again for warranty tomorrow.

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    Link Error Sz
    corrected! (thanks)
    fall into walls and ground Sz
    such behavior usually indicates a problem with the registration code. anyone experiencing this should contact support@bike.toyspring.com
    XA Software LP 2 Thiago
    My time is 8:30 =P
    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    sometimes i hate u Dags
    gj man
    Tabs's game on You Qi You Qi
    errr.... Dags???
    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    sry

    Tabs!
    dkn's game on Double Sprint dkn
    manual with double flip
    Tabs's game on You Qi Dags
    Aye - I get the blame for everything!
    Improving the global ranking calculation BugHunter

    I kind of like Thiago's idea of making the top points depend on the max number of riders who have completed any level in the pack (or maybe all levels). Right now 582 people have completed Riding School 2, so make the max points for any level be 582 and count down from there (that would be 583 - ranking, so first rank gets 582). If you complete Cloudwalk with the worst time (which would make you #107 right now), you'd get 476 points (583 - 107), because there are 476 people out there who haven't completed it and you did!
    Spencer's game on Skyway Sena
    lol, beaten
    Skyway Time Trial Sena
    i bet rachman has a stack of times that will be submitted at some point, probably all 1sts lol
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial Sena
    ty!
    Bike O'Clock Time Trial Sena
    wow, i didn't think my time would be around for this long! It's been 5 months!
    Tabs's game on You Qi Sena
    poort dads
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    Silence...
    Bike O'Clock Time Trial PrayeR
    Sena, we can always call Oliver.
    Bike O'Clock Time Trial Sena
    Oh oh OLIVER! If you are out there, just out of curiosity, what is your current time for this level? PRAYER! Stop scarying me
    Bike O'Clock Time Trial Oliver
    don't worry, i only have 12.06 in this level...
    Bike O'Clock Time Trial Sena
    Cool!
    Lee's game on Jurassic Parking PrayeR
    possible to touch dinasour tail at 8-9sec.

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    fall into walls and ground snempaa
    Ok, my fault, I just forgot to change my hotsync ID back to my original one (the one I registered with).
    dkn's game on Double Sprint D
    nicely executed flip to get the flag. i'm jealous
    dkn's game on Double Sprint D
    surprised you didn't crash with that HUGE compression before the double-flip
    Levelpack Explorer Sz
    well, actually it is quite good time to reveal easter eggs
    try these secret words:
  • wheelsareallineed
  • fakirmode
  • livebike
    (and see what happens after you die)
  • moonlight
  • australia
    (yes, Sena! )
  • stats
  • t
  • reset
    (undo all easter eggs without quitting the application)
  • Levelpack Explorer Ruben
    Has someone tried out my new levels?
    Pazos's game on The Right Way Ruben
    Ke hombre mae.
    Levelpack Explorer Rouch
    Sz: The easter eggs are realy really funny , maybe this could help making some level, specially the australia egg
    Really good work
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    Go Australia Thanks Sz Ruben, i haven't tried your new levels, but I did the old, will do the new (if that makes sense)
    Pazos's game on The Right Way Andres s
    gracias, rub... atte, Pazos
    Time Trial Champions Andres s
    Which level packs count for time trial champions? Sz.
    Pazos's game on Hill Andres s
    Thanks MATA... Its Pazos my profile dosnt work im using Andres s... Gracias mae.. your time is real good also...
    MATA's game on Home Sweet Home Andres s
    Nice MATA... Atte, Pazos
    Ruben's game on Watch your head Andres s
    Linda Rub, atte, Pazos
    MATA's game on Street Andres s
    Nice MATA., Atte, Pazos
    Time Trial Champions Andres s
    Everybody, check out ruroba's level packs they are awesome. if you like them vote for them., atte, Pazos
    BikeOrDie - Ruroba Andres s
    These Level Packs are awesome!!! Congratulations Ruben, good job. Atte, Pazos
    Levelpack Explorer Andres s
    Ruben, i did tried your levels there awesome, congratulations.. atte, Pazos
    BOD - MrD's Levels Andres s
    Its real hard.. atte, Pazos
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    Cool Sz! Tried em all now. Are there anymore (fingers crossed)?
    BugHunter's game on Purple Palace BugHunter
    Sticky tires! Check out my hang just before getting the last red flag. Gives new meaning to the term 'hang time'. Too bad I screwed the pooch on the easiest drop on the level.

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    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Lee
    Ah, you made this look easy, and it really is NOT
    Levelpack Explorer Ruben
    Ok Sena. Hope you like them.
    Tabs's game on palmstamp.com Tabs
    I just dont have the time fella.
    There's too many levels in here.
    Levelpack Explorer Daniel121
    where do u enter these easter eggs?
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    anywhere! type the code (eg. Australia ) and then enter, which is a downward stroke from the top right, to the bottom left. If it's correct, the egg will come into play!
    Levelpack Explorer Daniel121
    i still can't do it!... so this is wot im doing:

    I start a level... type livebike(in graffiti area)... then I draw a diagonal line from top right to bottom left(again in graffiti area) but notin happens

    am i doing something wrong??

    thanks
    Riding School Time Trial PrayeR
    my 28.xx game is rejected
    Ideas Daniel121
    Multiplayer
    I think it would be cool to play against another player nearby using infrared or bluetooth... we can have races... or even scoring points for tricks etc... we can have obstacles... many more types of games... but i think multiplayer would be a good feature
    Multiplayer Sena
    I like the sound of this idea and have thought about it for ages. I support it!!
    Oliver's game on Riding School Sena
    yeah, the psycology ('scuse the spelling) of a new version probably made u play better, i dunno
    Multiplayer Daniel121
    ya.. i really wish Sz will take it to consideration... it would be really cool!
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint marc
    ur weird
    Cave Time Trial PrayeR
    this is the most useless and bad level ever.
    Multiplayer Thiago
    that would be AWESOME!!!!
    we could have several types of games like Daniel said!!! =)

    I support it too!!!
    Levelpack Explorer Thiago
    i loved these easter eggs!!!
    my favorite is "stats"!!!

    My stats:
    12710 games played
    805 completed leves
    8844 failed


    I'm wondering what would be You Qi's and rachman's stats!!!
    And mata's, rouch's, aleksey's, prayer's and all top 10 players!
    Levelpack Explorer You Qi
    well, I dunno mine accurate or not coz I had hard resetted my device for 2 times.
    Levelpack Explorer Dags
    Here's mine - quite sad really!

    Played: 13647
    Completed: 831!
    Failed: a whopping 12322!
    Dags's game on Riding School Dags
    Just freestyling until I can come up with something better but as you can see I am working on it
    ZhangXiean's game on Malysz ZhangXiean
    Look! The New World I Found.
    Ideas DoctorDED
    PORTING to Nintendo DS
    Hey Sz,
    I don't know if anyone has planted this seed in your head yet, but why not get some Nintendo company to get this ported over to the Nintendo DS handheld. That would be sick!! Especially because of the dual screens, and the touch screen input would allow making you own tracks. Another great piece on the DS and Bike Or Die, it the built-in WiFi on the DS!! M U L T I P L A Y E R!!!!!

    Well, I'm sure you thought this already, but I figure I'd post it! I hope someone can or would do this!!

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    monkeydave's game on Hill PrayeR
    omg
    ZhangXiean's game on Malysz Dags
    Unfortunately found by many others long ago ....

    Sorry.
    flip's game on palmstamp.com Ando
    Holy crap!!!!
    Spencer's game on Skyway Spencer
    As with PrayeR's game on nose, club "Skyway below 29.00"
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Ando
    torrobinson needs his mental health checked out.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
    f***
    You Qi Levels Ruben
    I have an urgent question. My recording in the level #3 Fruits, does not work. When I submit it it says it is rejected but when I replay it in my palm, it works. What can I do.(It was a really good time).
    Fruits Time Trial Ruben
    I have an urgent question. My recording in the level #3 Fruits, does not work. When I submit it it says it is rejected but when I replay it in my palm, it works. What can I do.(It was a really good time).

    Big Cheese Time Trial PrayeR
    this is the only one level in all levepacks that i can not conplete...
    Big Cheese Time Trial Dags
    It's a tough level but not the toughest - just do it the slow way a couple of times to build up experience. Good luck!
    Big Cheese Time Trial PrayeR
    nah, i can not make that drop to take 4th flag and stay alive at the same time. lol.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial You Qi
    time to have a glance!
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese You Qi
    LOL!!!
    ZhangXiean's game on Malysz Sena
    Very old.
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Sena
    WHAT THE F***!
    Fruits Time Trial Sena
    Ah rachman, what would we do without you
    Fruits Time Trial PrayeR
    Sena
    i always knew u like me
    Dags's game on Riding School Dags
    Alternative way to do this level - managed to land a big jump too which usually ends in instant death Good elastic bike there as well And all under 30 secs
    Time Trial Champions Rouch
    Welcome back Rachman
    Not yet finished You Qi Level and already 5th in time trial
    Happy to see you again.
    Pacu's game on Sinus Mountains Ando
    Nice run-quite a few lucky landings though

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    SooHyunKim's game on Clay Serpent Ando
    Completing a level is not freestyle
    You Qi's game on Mount Kinabalu PrayeR
    yep, this way going down from Helicopter.

    pretty straight level.
    Fruits Time Trial Ruben
    I have an urgent question. My recording in the level #3 Fruits, does not work. When I submit it it says it is rejected but when I replay it in my palm, it works. What can I do.(It was a really good time).
    PLEASE RESPOND.
    Medals by Country Ruben
    There is something wrong because Costa Rica has been in #13 for a very long time when it should be in #10.
    Medals by Country PrayeR
    yes, it was not updated last weeks
    You Qi Levels You Qi
    maybe becoz you activated the easter egg while playing?
    You Qi Levels PrayeR
    no, SZ explained that this happens sometimes.
    You Qi Levels Thiago
    I used "australia" easter egg in Master KO's Bottle level... and my record was 2.60... hehehehe, but i can't upload it! hehehehe
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial PrayeR
    something is very weird with timings at this level...
    it seems i do all right but still - all what i got is 12.76

    Pazos's game on Finding Mice Andres s
    not any more...
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial You Qi
    perhaps you are not very perfect yet. you can't even blocked by something for the whole route only then you can get <12.50
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    16.xx is possible
    Lee's game on Hill PrayeR
    unlucky at the bottom of the level.
    Cave Time Trial You Qi
    guys, this level is quite easy... I can get a constant result between 1:01-1:03
    Cave Time Trial PrayeR
    i dont mean - it's hard.

    no, it is not... just it's too big and has too many rocks
    Pazos's game on KL City Centre Ruben
    De nada mae.
    Cave Time Trial Thiago
    i played it ONCE... hehehe
    Ruben's game on Fruits Andres s
    Nice one RUB... atte, Pazos
    Pazos's game on KL City Centre Andres s
    Gracias mae
    Pazos's game on KL City Centre PrayeR
    zaebali

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    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    why we play same levels Tabs?
    Tabs's game on You Qi Tabs
    We don't - look at your gold medals and look
    at mine.A BIG difference.

    Tabs's game on You Qi PrayeR
    it's not about that.
    i mean that u like small fast levels like me.
    Tabs's game on You Qi Tabs
    You are 100% right friend.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    OK guys - there u go
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    in such manner i made times till 17.40
    my 17.30 game is different.

    actually it's not the fastest way. u r still slow in one part of the map.


    btw, strange that most of peeps did not find this, coz it's very clear to see this way. muahahahaha
    Underground Time Trial PrayeR
    atack of clones. lol
    Spencer's game on Downhill Madness Spencer
    I can go downhill with a landing!
    Spencer's game on Downhill Madness Spencer
    Check out the suspension on the front wheel!
    Downhill Madness Time Trial Spencer
    Check out my freestyle on this level, it's similar to SDC's game - http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=22424
    BOD-ChallengePackDemo You Qi
    Do you think someone will buy the full version? Stingy.
    BOD-ChallengePackDemo PrayeR
    new times... skins, themes etc.. peoples are trying to sale.
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness Spencer
    Nice! Also check out my freestyle, I land at the bottom in a different way.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=22424
    Ideas snempaa
    All recordings in one file
    Because I'm playing Bike or Die for quite a long time now, my palm is full of BoD recordings. Half of all the files are bod-files now(about 400), and I don't know why, but my backup takes ages (4hrs on a T|C) because the bike or die recording backup really slow. Is there anyway to put them into one big recording file (or on option to do it so that the people who upload their recording through this site can still do it too).

    Thanks in advance,

    Wouter
    All recordings in one file PrayeR
    and RAM becomes defragmented.
    Hellraider Time Trial Spencer
    I have a time of 27,66 on this level, but the server won't let me upload it!
    All recordings in one file You Qi
    Prayer, what do you mean by that?
    Oliver's game on Floors PrayeR
    perfect
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    finaly
    Ideas You Qi
    XML RSS
    I would like the newest scores, messages, news... in rss format. This can make it easier for me in everything! even with this function it can also safe some bandwidth for this site. how you think Sz?

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    Time Trial Champions Ruben
    Congratulations Sz. You now have 900 players.
    Newsnslation
    Marcel Dopita made a Czech version of the game. Download it here!
    All recordings in one file Sz
    i think i will add such option in the next version.
    i also have hundrets of recordings, but the sync speed was not affected THAT MUCH.
    XML RSS Sz
    why not... it should be easy
    thanks!
    Multiplayer Sz
    should be doable. actually, in this game players wouldn't influence one another so it is only necessary to show other player's bike simultaneously with your own one.
    thanks!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Sz
    well, for now i'm going to finish the other game, but i'm also thinking about porting BoD to other systems at a later date.
    thanks!
    Oliver's game on Sinus Mountains Andres s
    hey, nice comment matitas! by the way nice game!!!!!!!!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS You Qi
    oh~ new game coming? COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! hope it's more addictive than BoD.

    btw, I think psp is the best choices if you are thinking to port it to the next console!
    Time Trial Champions You Qi
    wondering what's the figure for active player....
    All recordings in one file PrayeR
    i mean, that so many small files defragment storage in your device. so there can be probs running UDMH (software to increase heap memory)
    All recordings in one file You Qi
    u mean fragment or defragment? defragment is a process to make your fragmented files combined as a continous files.
    All recordings in one file PrayeR
    yeah, i mean Fragmented
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial rachman!
    Hey!!! I submited a 43.80 secs record but I realize it has the name of anonymous and the server didn't let me to change it, anyone knows how could I do it? I changed another record's name from my palm but I missed that last dot... Well, I wave two gold medals, so I have to change it right net time.
    rachman!'s game on Skyway rachman!
    Beat my time!!
    Shark! Time Trial PrayeR
    make your game Secret Aleksey.
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Spencer
    Wow...congratulations! that's almost 2 seconds off my time!
    rachman!'s game on Skyway rachman!
    Thanks!! I just broke some rules...
    rachman!'s game on Skyway You Qi
    rachman is the GOD OF BoD!
    Biker's Cafe You Qi
    TouchBricks
    anyone tried out? this game is addictive too!
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Powerman
    Thanks for opening! I can´t believe this crasy ride

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    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    for god's sake Tabs...
    rachman!'s game on Skyway PrayeR
    it was clear. it's just damn hard to do.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    The end is a bit messy.
    Room for improvement maybe.

    rachman!'s game on Skyway Tabs
    Stunning - absolutely stunning.
    Its at times like this I feel like
    a second class Bike or Die'er.
    Well Done.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    hmmm, still not the fastest way :p
    Levelpack Explorer Bálint
    Played: 24712
    completed: 904
    Failed:18284
    And I had a hard reset on 12nd February.
    rachman!'s game on Skyway PrayeR
    yeah, bike handling from rachman! is something.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    Ok - fair enough - Show me the
    way.

    I always publish my movies.

    Tabs's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    ok, but i never used your replays to play my games.
    if i use someone idea - i never make my game secret.

    anyway, if u want - i open it.
    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    if u will c Tabs, i made little mistake. i shoud touch only corner. so as u c, if i took last red flag such perfect like u did, and then did not make unneeded move after i used corner to go down - it would be about 16.20-16.30.
    it's hard to (only touch corner) but it's possible, i did it in my 17.30 game (pity i was slow at the other parts of the map)
    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    taking the last flag is the key sir -
    you are right there - getting a bit of
    bounce backis essential.

    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    here http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=21959
    u can c how to use the corner right, there i did it almost perfect (i think)
    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    last flag is important but not the key becouse it's not that hard.
    Finding Mice Time Trial PrayeR
    47-48 possible..

    ffs, if i could pass mouse that time.. argh
    Roel's game on Underground PTS
    Goooooood ! ^.^ b
    Levelpack Explorer You Qi
    Played: 52943
    completed: 1645
    Failed:48119

    hard resetted on nov 2004. and the whole month of March only played 2-3days due to the warranty issue.
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Spencer
    rachman, you truly are the king of bike or die!
    Ruben's game on Mount Kinabalu Andres s
    Nice one Rub, it will be a very very hard time to beat! congratulations, atte Pazos
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
    ask SZ, i think he can merge this game with your account.
    Report a bug Ando
    Websync
    For some wierd reason, when i try to open the java websync, it says something like "unable to launch the specified application". I reinstalled java to no avail. Anyone have any idea what is going wrong???

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    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Ando
    Why bother with the rest if you've already got the best?!?!
    Nate Borup's game on Underground Nate Borup
    I broke one of the buttons on my palm trying to do this stunt.
    Levelpack Explorer rachman!
    I just was checking this comments because I hadn't seen them... I think total stats is not a real number, I just have 4865 games played!! jeje..
    Maybe if we would add each level's stats, we could know how many times have really played... but... Im too lazy...
    I very surprised how many times my palm says I have played each level...jaja wow!!
    Levelpack Explorer Powerman
    Very nice eggs SZ but when will so create an new LP for the highscore???
    Levelpack Explorer Powerman
    One question: I've made a new record with the "egg" MOONLIGHT? But the time was not accepted in the hall of fame?!? Can someone exlain this?
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Dags
    That was phenomenal!! Truely in another world - one for freestyle? Well done Rachman!
    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    I've tried this way about 20 times
    now and I havn't acheived it yet.
    Its very difficult to get right.

    PrayeR's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    that's the problem, sir
    PrayeR's game on Bike Impossible PrayeR
    tnx Oliver and Volcano
    Master KO's Levels PrayeR
    ah... no sence to fight at this level pack for something, having 40th place at "Bottle"...
    "lucky" level

    PrayeR's game on Fruits PrayeR
    opened
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth PrayeR
    i am such an idiot... that was 22.xx game... or even 21.xx
    You Qi's game on The Right Way Ruben
    Very good time You Qi. You´re very good at this.
    Levelpack Explorer rachman!
    I think It's ok because if the server acepted that type of games it would be kind of cheating. Maybe this feature would be nice with another vehicle, like the game for palm "Graviton".
    Report a bug Lee
    D Pad menu use
    The D Pad on my T3 works fine for scrolling when selecting a level, or scrolling through the recorded games lists, but when I click "more" it doesn't work on the Levelpack Selection menu, and I have to use the fiddly little arrows.

    Is this just me?
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Lee
    What config have you got?
    I am using -
    Calendar (switch directions)
    Contacts (lean left)
    DPad left (lean right)
    DPad Up (Pause)
    DPad Right (Map)
    Memo (accelerate)
    Tasks (Brake)


    This works for me on my T3 - I had similar problems to you with the default key mapping
    Multiplayer Daniel121
    glad you're taking it into consideration!!

    thanks
    Master KO's Levels Daniel121
    I used the australia easter egg and i got 2.60... now it won't let me save a real time... wot do i do??? pls help
    Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
    Dags, yep, only even numbers...

    if u made 6.30 many times - that is the best what u can get using your pda, probably...
    You Qi's game on The Right Way You Qi
    thanks! well, time to share.. soon I will have 4 medals left.

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    Levelpack Explorer Thiago
    I think the recorded game is just a list of buttons pressed. When you cheat, like AUSTRALIA, you don't press any button. I did 2.60 in Bottle level, but when i watched it again, it just stayed still, then a message "ABORTED" appeared.
    Master KO's Levels Thiago
    Daniel, i got 2.60 too! =P

    If you beat your own old record, you can make a "manual save" in REC -> Save My Last Game
    Underground Time Trial Sena
    poor martyn, MATA, can we see the movie please ?
    Martyn's game on Underground You Qi
    someone beaten you....
    MATA's game on Underground You Qi
    Well Done!
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Erich
    I am playing Xeno quite a lot; it's such a simple game, yet not too easy... I use the nag screens to get a break every once in a game.

    The other game I'm really addicted to is PocketAargon! What beatiful graphics!
    TouchBricks Erich
    Sure I did; yet it left my palm after a few weeks, which doesn't mean it's a bad game, just not my type
    MATA's game on Underground PrayeR
    how u kwno that if u did not see it?
    lol
    Underground Time Trial PrayeR
    Oliver, go go go
    there is only one Oliver
    and there is only one Oliver
    Ole Ole Ole
    You Qi's game on The Right Way PrayeR
    i doubt... if Oliver did not beat u - noone can
    You Qi's game on The Right Way You Qi
    you forgotten bout our champion - rachman! Time for giving the medal back to you.
    Aleksey's game on Watch your head PrayeR
    gi
    Ideas PrayeR
    new level pack in online competition
    i post it here because i have some suggestions.

    as u c, custom level packs in online competition are pretty hard, i mean many of levels in Standard Level pack are easier.

    and as u can c - a lot of peoples submitted their games for standard level pack - but not so much for Custom LP's.

    i would like to see in Online Competition - simple level pack, LP that can be played by many peoples.
    LP that consist of levels like first levels in Standard level pack...
    like example something like "test the limits" LP.

    because now it's just LP for bunch of fanatics and good players.

    and it's good for the game when many peoples play it.
    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    I don't fully agree with Prayer's idea, because many people are good but can´t get to many good times because since there are a lot of players in BoD that records are so close together that 10 positions can be 5 seconds. People also decide to only play only the levelpacks that they like or some don´t even buy BoD. I do agree that Standard levels are easier than custom levelpacks but maybe that's good because SLPs help the players get better and try other levelpacks.
    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    That's my opinion.
    new level pack in online competition You Qi
    no comment.
    but simple levels make no meaning for me.
    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    Ruben
    playing level packs that are in online competition is more fun than playing LP's that r not there.
    erm, u mean that without buying BoD u can register and submit recordings?

    You Qi
    it makes no meanings for u, but probobly it makes more meanings for 100 or 200 players who find that LP's in online competition are too hard to play.

    more peoples play now -> more peoples will play Bike or Die Version 2 (if sz will make it) -> more life in Bike or Die community.

    or probably LP that consist only of small levels (like Oil Drop, Square etc.) would be good to have in online competition too.
    BikeOrDie - by MacKo Powerman
    Hi MacKo!
    Have you finished all your levels (or anybody else?
    I think the some are impossible!
    Multiplayer Sena
    I think it should be 1 on 1, or have a group and there should be a chat room.
    Ideas Sena
    Memory Deleter
    Has anyone ever done a backup and noticed how many files Bike or Die uses? There should be some tool that allows u to delete all recordings that are a certain time old, eg. a year, a month or a custom time u select.

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    Report a bug Sena
    Battery on T3
    I find that my battery seems to be running low really quickly. Seeing Bike or Die is the only thing i do on my palm basically, it occured to me that it might have something to do with it (suprisingly). I'm talking like a couple hours playing time here! Less! All T3 OWNERS! What is it like for you? Or, is it my battery is...
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Sena
    my t3 controls are:
    DPad (directional)
    Map (Tasks)
    Note Pad (Pause)
    BikeOrDie - by MacKo Sena
    I'll try them. Also, if ur looking for hard levels, try hank chills'
    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    I know that playing LP's that are in the hall of fame is more fun but what I meant is that people who are no so good could play the standard levelpack and the better players could play the other LP's that are in the hall of fame since they are harder.
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
    SZ, please delete game - rachman!. 0:44,24
    rachman! anyway got gold, but Mata and me are one place lower than it should be.
    All recordings in one file snempaa
    It's not a prob when I do a (hot)sync, but when I backup to SD, that's what takes ages! Thanks in advance for adding such feature!
    MATA's game on Underground Sena
    Yeah?
    Underground Time Trial Sena
    lol, i bet he's working his but off trying to beat all these times
    You Qi's game on The Right Way Sena
    twas a sudden comeback by rachman eh
    new level pack in online competition Sena
    You Qi

    I like simple levels, no offence to you ruben, but Ruben's first levels were simple except for WOW, which took me a while, but I enjoyed playing them more because I was able to complete them more. If they are so hard that you can't complete them, it's not as fun, especially when they aren't even a level in the online competition.
    All recordings in one file Sena
    i agree with Sz, and i think it's far to risky doing it this way. I think it should be optional
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial Sena
    lol, prayer, i think they are different accounts
    Ideas Sena
    Instant Restart
    I have a T3 and it's so annoying holding a stylus in my palm (as in the one ON my hand) so i can tap the screen without damaging it straight after i die. I reakon there should be a feature, like what appears after 3 seconds after u die, that allows u to push (for example) down, and you can instantly restart
    Battery on T3 Dansexy
    Well I have a Zire 72 but it happens the same and its because the processor uses a lot of battery and of course the big screen of the T3.
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Dansexy
    What about Firestorm, the GBA emulator for palm.
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial PrayeR
    and?
    it's rachman!'s game.
    Battery on T3 Sena
    I wouldn't of thought it would use that much battery though
    Home Sweet Home Time Trial Sena
    so there's been an error! i'm on ur level now I mean, right! Poor PrayeR! Missing out on 1 itsi bitsi bronze he should have jk prayer
    rachman!'s game on Home Sweet Home Sena
    this is my method of starting, it's slightly quicker than the previously used method
    PORTING to Nintendo DS JudgeDredd
    Please make this for PPC, This game I miss soooooooo much.

    Thanks.

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    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    I am not trying to be annoying or anything but simple and/or small levels are easy to get a perfect game so there is no fun in getting a perfect game and being like 5th because other people have the same time.
    What I'm saying is that bigger levels and more comlex ones are better for hall of fame since the competition won't be so close that several times repeat.
    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    I'm glad that you liked my Ruben's Levels.
    Hope you like Ruroba Levels.
    Sena's game on Teapot Ruben
    Nice trick. Not the best to complete a time but cool.
    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    think about peoples who dont play it hours long and have not so many skills - they dont need BIG, hard to complete levels.

    what sence in game if level is completed only by 40-50 players? or sometimes even less...
    Biker's Cafe You Qi
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied
    check out here http://www.codebrew.se/gdtr/.
    This game is fun too! it's for your mobile phone.
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied You Qi
    http://www.codebrew.se/gdtr/images/gdtr_intro.gif

    http://www.codebrew.se/gdtr/images/gdtr_hole.gif

    http://www.codebrew.se/gdtr/images/gdtr_indoor.gif

    (graphic quite lag but it's smooth when you play in ur mobile phone)
    Sena's game on Teapot Sena
    Actually, this way, when done fast, proves to be quicker than the regular time. When the wheel catches, it is possible to do the same on the other side. I have done this before, but not on this.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sena
    I think it should work in reverse, so the object is to get the least number of points. Of course it would not display like this, but could be calculated. eg. 1st place is 1, 2nd place is 2 etc. This removed the dependency on the number of players on that track. 1st place overall is the person that has the least, but it can still be displayed at 15pts behind (just so that it is easier for everyone to understand )
    You Qi Levels Lee
    Funny that "australia reverses gravity.

    Not so funny that you can't reset it! and it affects ALL the other levels!
    Had to recover a previous save point on my card backup and reboot.

    Thanks very much!
    Teapot Time Trial Lee
    The trick about getting past the mine is not to do it slowly - if you take a run at it and hit the brake at the right time, you stretch the bike out and it goes through lower.

    My problem is making a sensible landing out of it at the bottom!
    Battery on T3 Lee
    Sorry Sena - the battery on the T3 is notoriously underpowered - I have exactly the same problem if I play 2 - 2.5 hours without a recharge things start shutting down on me.
    Battery on T3 Sena
    Thanks for that lee, as a matter of fact, i'm glad this is the case, not the fact that the battery is bad, but that it isn't just me playing it to much and it has worn the battery down or something thanks
    Teapot Time Trial Sena
    speaking of that australian egg, what's with that! Sz! U view aussies as up themselves, or u live in south pole or something?! Why does it go up? I still like it being named after australia though contradiction
    rachman!'s game on Home Sweet Home Sena
    It's not on my game though, i have talked about it
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Sena
    u mean the 2nd last flag?
    Ideas Ruben
    Comparing Profiles
    I think it would be cool if there were a way to compare two player's profiles so that you can see how far off or close you are to a certain player. This could make players want to play more to beat someone.
    Comparing Profiles PrayeR
    me? lol
    Comparing Profiles Sena
    i think it would be cool in a way 2
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop Sena
    i agree with prayer, there is so many ways to finish the level off
    David's game on The Right Way Callipygian
    Nicely done David. That tire squeeze before flag 3 is awesome!

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    flip's game on palmstamp.com Callipygian
    RAD!
    The Ratt's game on The Right Way Callipygian
    How is this freestyle? You just went and got the flags. Why do I want to watch that?
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    Dags, u think u were bad!

    Total Games: 39109 (that's a lot of BODing!)
    Completed: 1219
    Failed: 29642 (:S:S)
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    You Qi is even worse than me, but even more BODing
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Ken
    dam! boys got skills!
    Levelpack Explorer CX3KYS
    I have a MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE level pack, containing over 60 levels (not all by me, my friend made a few of them, but 90% are mine) and was wondering if anyone wants me to submit it.
    Levelpack Explorer CX3KYS
    Ah yes. I forgot to comment on the easter eggs. I knew most of them, but australia, t, and stats are new to me! These are awesome!
    Levelpack Explorer CX3KYS
    Sorry bout the triple postin guys but I can't seem to find this 'RsrcEdit' program. Where is it??? (I promise I won't post again till someone else does )
    You Qi Levels Lee
    Doh, just found Sz s instructions on easter eggs - that would have been simpler
    Medals by Country Ruben
    It's weird that a long time ago Costa Rica should have been 9th but now it really has to be ninth.
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    It can be found at:
    http://www.quartus.net/products/rsrcedit/
    Medals by Country Sena
    Lol! Australia is 9th because I have 1 more gold medal
    You Qi Levels Sena
    What's the the australia reversing gravity? Australia is south! Or is there a deeper meaning...
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Lee
    Nuts, just crazy - I saw the run down the top (though you have to hit the flag point bang on), but the spin up onto the rail is a nutty trick!
    NICE WORK!
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Sena
    Wow! I would never of thought of doing that! That's pure rachman style
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    lol, like less than 300, possibly even 200
    Shark! Time Trial Sena
    no way! it's so cool! Rachman, any chance of us seeing yours?
    Medals by Country Ruben
    I also have 2 gold medals. But I win because of the silvers.
    Medals by Country Sena
    how come it only comes up with you as having 1 gold medal?
    Report a bug Sena
    Viewing a Saved Recording
    Sometimes when i view a saved recording, stop it early, and then try to do something else, it doesn't let me control. Instead it 'finishes' off the previous recording on the new level.

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    Websync Sena
    you internet was stuffed at the time? have you got java 1.5?
    Odd Control Behaviour Sena
    i just submitted a bug about this. it has to do with the recording.
    Medals by Country Ruben
    I don't know.
    Medals by Country Sena
    that's weird. Well as much as it should be fixed, i sorta like being in 9th
    Ideas Ruben
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks
    Have you ever noticed that you can't see your rankings in the LPs: SuiLin, Master KO, OrRs and in You Qi. I would like to be able to click an the LP name for example You Qi and see my rankings in the 10 leveñs instead of clicking on the LP name and then you are at the levelpack.
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks Ruben
    This is of course when you're on your profile.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial Lee
    I still recon there is something in using the platform to the right
    Check out this failed effort
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=23543
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks Sz
    you CAN see your ranking - just click the folder icon.
    (well, it's a bit cryptic... so maybe i will change this method. eg. click on the LP name -> open the LP in the profile, click on the additional icon -> go to the LP)
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks Ruben
    Sorry. Didn't know you could do that. Thanks.
    Comparing Profiles Sz
    yeah, nice idea
    Comparing Profiles Ruben
    thanks.
    Instant Restart Sz
    it was done on purpose to avoid unwanted restarts when you die while holding "down".
    but you can always tap the screen with your finger, you don't need a stylus
    of course i could add an option to disable this delay. anyone else needs such feature?
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied Sz
    i like the pseudo-3d effect!
    BoD would look nice with textures+3d. maybe in v2.0
    new level pack in online competition Sz
    well... the optimum levelpack should be easy to complete but hard to master, so novice players could take part in the competition but it would still let our champions have different times and/or use different advanced tricks to improve their times.
    do you know levels, which can meet these criteria?
    i ask, because maybe it is time to add another LP to the competition
    we don't have to choose the entire existing levelpack. the compilation of best levels could be even better.
    what do you think?
    Memory Deleter Sz
    yeah, it also is connected with  All recordings in one file - which means you won't have so many files after the "archive" feature will be added.
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks Sz
    actually it's good you have asked, now everyone can read the answer here
    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    less peoples have best times - less peoples have fun playing BoD.

    as i said i like "test the limits" LP.

    i dont like to c LP that will make happy Ruben or You Qi and that's all. but would be good to c LP which is easy enough for many peoples.

    personaly, i think that already first LP in online competition made so that peoples lost a bit of interest to BoD.

    NOT ALL HAVE TIME to play HOURS long.
    BOD - MrD's Levels Sz
    many of these levels share a strange feature - they seem impossible but after a few tries i start to think it might be possible... then, several hours later, the level is finished
    GOOD WORK!
    new level pack in online competition Sz
    actually, prayer has not said that all levels should be easy. we already have a lot of tough and very tough levels in the recently added levelpacks. so now, let's add some easy ones.
    to avoid the circumstance where top 5 players all have the same time, just choose bigger levels, something like  Grand Canyon. i'm sure everyone in top 20 can complete this level at first try, most amateur players could make it after a short training. however, champions will complete this levels much more efficiently. and that's the point.
    please post your candidates for such "easy yet interesting" levelpack.
    BikeOrDie - by MacKo MacKo
    Of course I finished all of them... otherwise I wouldn't put them here

    Some of them (like "Framsticks" are very easy when you learn how to get through all stages.

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    new level pack in online competition Ruben
    I agree with Sz. This level is easy to completebut it´s big so that many people can make different moves at different places in the map.
    Levelpack Explorer CX3KYS
    Thanks sena!
    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    big levels...

    poor Tabs and me.


    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    different moves?

    omg, almost noone thinks, somebody made good game - shared it - and than almost all just copy it. (there a probobly 10 players who try to think).

    btw, SZ maybe is's possible to make easy LP where noone can keep their games private? coz a lot of peoples use other's replays but never share their games (even games non in top10)
    Levelpack Explorer Tiger
    Submit the level pack! I ran out of levels I could beat...
    Raking in Hall of Fame Levelpacks Sena
    wow that's so useful I had no idea
    new level pack in online competition You Qi
    why are you so worry bout the secret game? I feel nothing to it, is that a MUST to show off their replay for those who copy? I don't think so!
    Gary's game on Riding School Zak
    nice... but like really boring
    Roel's game on Underground Zak
    OMG that is so awesome!!!! Man i cant figure out how you did it. *votes for you
    new level pack in online competition PrayeR
    SZ
    i am removing my last suggestion, because i got now that most of players won't like that.
    Zak's game on Underground Zak
    my first best time... not that anyone will see this
    Zak's game on Underground Zak
    i did okay.. but i wasted to much time on the flip and bounce
    rachman!'s game on Skyway Zak
    wow... that is sweet. awesome job
    Callipygian's game on Double Sprint Callipygian
    A slightly different strategy. Need to work on my return time.
    Bottle Time Trial Sena
    wow, i had never noticed that before!
    Roel's game on Underground Powerman
    That´s the real FLYING DUTCHMAN
    Underground Time Trial Oliver
    hi sena, yeah right i almost burned my thumb trying to make a new record here but no success . anyway i already beat you in bike-o-clock...hehe :b. but can not submit i think for a long time since i'm out of the country...
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Aleksey
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=23687
    From bed inside TV
    Underground Time Trial Sena
    wat u mean u beat me in bike o clock! what's your time
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Sena
    that's weird cause it's not like standard levels level 2 where ur wheel can catch, there's no way u can catch there, well, obviously there is because u did it, still it's quite queer

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    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Zak
    i gave you all 3
    just ignore theONE.hes a dork anyway
    hes too immature to do anything but swear. I think that you use alot of finesse and skill in this one and that its better than roels because so many people have copied him.
    S-n-T's game on Riding School Part 2 Zak
    Nice job- like the slingshot effect
    rachman!'s game on Double Sprint Zak
    man i never can get this...always die at the wall- awesome job
    Ruben's game on The Right Way Pazos
    Nice one RUb!!!
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Pazos
    I agree rachman! but lets face it, it is a good freestyle game.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial Pazos
    Lee, is saw your your replay i think it will help your time, congratulation, excelent work, sorry you failed it..
    Medals by Country Ruben
    Sorry Sena, but now Costa Rica really desreves being 9th since we´re on gold in front of you.
    Medals by Country Sena
    i know i know
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Sena
    maybe worth a top 10 place, but not 22 votes
    Pazos's game on Teapot Pazos
    Dude, i was lucky!
    Freestyle Competition Pazos
    Hey Guys! check out my Freestyle in level Teapot, if you like it. Vote for it please!
    Freestyle Competition Pazos
    It's on page 370 on freestyle.
    You Qi's game on U Jump Pazos
    Dude, thats ODD!
    Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial Pazos
    Dude, i cant i give up... my best time is 29, and i dont know how you came up with 23!
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
    molodca!
    Golden Gate Time Trial PrayeR
    28.xx is possible... why i always fail at the end.. argh
    You Qi's game on The Right Way PrayeR
    ops... Tabs saw our comments.
    Ideas Ruben
    Freestyle Competition
    There should be a way to divide these games by levels. Just like it can be divided by country.
    Ideas Ruben
    LevelPack Rating
    Since there has been so much intrest in a new LP in the HoF, then I suggest that there were a place where players could vote for their favorite LP.
    Taking into account that they're not too easy but not too hard so that all players could play. They should also take into account originality and creativity.
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Ruben
    I bet a lot of people including me would like to see it since you have shown us that weird game.

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    Golden Gate Time Trial Sena
    i still can't do this!
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    ooh tiger what about comp levels?
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    ma bad i thought it was i couldn't beat
    Freestyle Competition Pazos
    Sorry to bother, but now is in top 34.
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Pazos
    LOL!!!, Dude,torrobinson com'on be serious!
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Pazos
    Good Job Sena!
    David's game on The Right Way Pazos
    Nice one David
    The Ratt's game on The Right Way Pazos
    Your right Callipygian
    Andres s's game on Zip-Zap Pazos
    Puta mas Lechero!!!
    Joey's game on Fly! Joey
    My bike is upside down and I'm still riding it on the ground.
    Joey's game on Fly! Dags
    Wicked!

    One vote!!
    Joey's game on Fly! Sena
    a vote for looks, and because your the first new player i have seen in a while, that is not a ghost
    Sena's game on Loop 2 Sena
    thanks, do i get a vote for that
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    omg! i get wat u mean now dags! i thought the even numbers was only on bottle, but it's on every level! can't believe i didn't notice that b4!
    slavko's game on The Well Ruben
    As I understand. All the people who voted for this game was because of the time but now that time isn't very good.
    slavko's game on The Well Sena
    yup i agree..
    Maka's game on Vertical Avenue Maka
    not so bad...
    Maka's game on Vertical Avenue Maka
    just wanted to see if it was possible... not too difficult...
    Maka's game on Vertical Avenue Maka
    I know this is a failed game, but there are a couple of nice (lucky ) flips...
    Report a bug Maka
    Time Problems (T3)
    I noticed the clock on the game is very accurate when playing with Lo res, B/W, Outline and none of the FX. But when playing with hi res, color and all the FX the clock is slower. A minute in the game is about 1:10 in real life.

    And speaking about time, are the web replays in slow motion on purpose? or is it a problem with my browser...

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    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    BTW, I didn't introuduce myself... hello all! I've been playing this game for a couple of days and I love it!!
    Tabs's game on Fruits Pazos
    Nice one Tabs!
    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    ok... I don't know why, but it's not happening anymore... I'm sure there was a difference before... The only thing I've done which could have affected this was a soft reset of the T3...

    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    all right... maybe I know what can be the cause... With Hi Res and and all the Extras: Closed screen = faster clock (and on the first post I also meant faster, not slower...) and open screen = accurate clock

    Did anyone noticed this before? I'll keep testing, but I think screen redraw time might have something to do with it...
    Joey's game on Fly! Joey
    Look, my bike is upside down, riding on the ground, and I survived!
    The Veenk's game on Underground Tabs
    How much faster is this level gonna get ? - its
    amazing.Is 16.xx possible ? Well done The Veenk.
    Time Problems (T3) Sena
    Welcome, try not to tripple post though
    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    tell me how to add to a post then
    Medals by Country Sz
    corrected! (sorry for that)
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
    and that asks person who keep all games private?


    lololololololol

    Lesha! ne delaj etogo!
    Tabs's game on Fruits PrayeR
    u r lucky fella, Tabs.
    Report a bug PrayeR
    Info Line
    there are errors in running line at the bottom of the site.

    old results etc. etc.
    Time Problems (T3) PrayeR
    like example i take 2 games of other persons, and i c that web replay of game of one player is longer. but in table of results he has better time that second person.
    Time Problems (T3) PrayeR
    p.s. that is strange
    slavko's game on The Well PrayeR
    probably because he discovered this way.

    a u agree, Sena?
    The Veenk's game on Underground PrayeR
    why dont u try Tabs?
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home PrayeR
    p.s. i said that NOT about Aleksey
    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    can you show me some examples? I've been checking some web replays from different players and for me they all are about 1.25 times slower than the time they took in the game...
    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    About the other problem... There's a time discrepancy and it can affect other palms too. I tested my girlfriend's Palm T/E and with all the FX on and Hi Res the clock is too slow it registerd 57 secs after 1 minute in a stop watch) and with lo res and no fx, it registered 1:04 after 1 minute...

    This can make a difference, as the whole game would be faster or slower depending on what resolution/fx or palm you play with
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial Pazos
    I think that 35 is possible, you can go up the hill finishing with 9sec.

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    Aleksey's game on Skyway Pazos
    Nice one Aleksey
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way RogueNine
    I've actually done a much cooler one and when I get around to it I will upload it.
    Medals by Country Sena
    wow prayer! up to no 1!
    slavko's game on The Well Sena
    i think i was around when it was discovered, and i think it might of been Slavko, wat do u think You Qi? u remember?
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial Sena
    to get 9sec though makes the comming of the hill stronger and u sometimes miss
    slavko's game on The Well You Qi
    I'm in since August... dunno much bout July issue... no idea.
    Time Problems (T3) You Qi
    time is working in ratio... so I think you can't compare like this.... like example for the 57sec, perhaps you can accelerate faster compare to the 64sec game.
    Time Problems (T3) Maka
    yeah, the whole game would be faster or slower and that would make the game a bit harder or easier too....

    I suppose between different models of palm it's normal that there could be errors (maybe even due to HW issues), but the speed should be consistent in a specific model through all the screen resolutions and fx options....
    Medals by Country Oliver
    not long after i uploaded my 3 golds...hehe...just wait, don't know when. the 1 i think can be submitted for freestyle, judge it when you saw it...
    The Veenk's game on Underground Oliver
    now these guys are really freak......very very nice job for a very very hard level...
    Tabs's game on The Right Way Oliver
    very nice...
    Tabs's game on The Right Way PrayeR
    19.00 is possible...

    if i will have free time... lololololol

    at the middle of the map (below) it's possible to ride faster, really faster
    Medals by Country PrayeR
    tnx Sena

    lol Oliver. stay cool.
    Mount Kinabalu Time Trial PrayeR
    Sena is right
    Medals by Country PrayeR
    i dont have time to fight with freaks who go only for gold.


    muahahahahahaha


    no time...
    Time Problems (T3) PrayeR
    i dont remember already...
    was long time ago.
    Dags's game on The Right Way Dags
    No need to vote cos it's a rubbish freestyle but this was another interesting physics glitch - shame I couldn't get out of it.
    Tabs's game on Fruits Tabs
    Only Tabs view the movie.

    Default Genesis's Mayhem GPolice
    No one loves me

    Has anyone beat pinball?
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied Maka
    I don't know if this was mentioned before, but there is an excelent game for Mac and Windows called Dirt Bike

    http://members.aol.com/bradquick/

    It's similar to BoD in some ways but very different in the way you control the bike... check out the non 3D version, which in my opinion is much better...

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    slavko's game on The Well Sena
    i thought u were before, my bad
    S-n-T's game on Riding School Part 2 Sena
    Sorry, but no offence, this is what a lot of free styles are, but this is the longest i have seen someone jump.
    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    Check it out now its Public! Hope you like it!
    Pazos's game on Jump Over Pazos
    Its hard to make good time!
    rachman!'s game on Hill Pazos
    Nice rachman but you need to be faster in the last part!
    Lee's game on Midnight Mess Pazos
    Nice Lee!
    Andres s's game on Cave Pazos
    Nice one Andres s!
    Pazos's game on Hill Lee
    Nice work - I still don't have the balls not to press the brake on the approach to the flat platform at the bottom.
    You got a pretty lucky kick at the bottom, but WELL HELD!
    Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
    #1-#2 Costa Rica
    LevelPack Rating Ruben
    This way it will be easy to choose a new LP for the hall of fame. If it's ok with Sz.
    LevelPack Rating Sena
    I agree and disagree. I think that this should be used just for everyone's personal use (and for Sz to have a look at which ones are popular), but the LP that is choses for HoF should be reasonably hard. Also, you should be able to view all 'voting' on one page.
    Pazos's game on Hill Sena
    With you all the way Lee ! Well done Pazos!
    Tabs's game on Hellraider Lee
    How on earth did you not explode coming down the Left ramp on your back wheel like that?!
    Bike Impossible Time Trial Lee
    Are you guys with the medals accelerating from the bottom of your bounce on the rope, or after you come back up?
    Tabs's game on Fruits Lee
    I bet you were holding your breath from the beginning of the takeoff
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Lee
    I wonder if anyone has tried it on Styletap yet?
    http://styletap.com/index.html
    You get a free limited trial - try it out, and see!
    Tabs's game on Hellraider Sena
    i would of expected a flip
    Tabs's game on Hellraider PrayeR
    i said already Lee, he is lucky 1. lol
    Levelpack Explorer Gavin!speed
    is it possible to down load all the levels at once?
    Levelpack Explorer Gavin!speed
    ?

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    Benoit's game on Mount Kinabalu Benoit
    First time in top 10 AND first time ahead of top French guy, this is a good day ....
    Tabs's game on Fruits Tabs
    If you mean the last takeoff then yes
    Lee.I was trying to completely clear the
    last fruit - I almost did it.

    Tabs's game on Hellraider Tabs
    We all need a bit of luck in this game.

    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    Thanks a lot Lee and Sena... I agree with you Lee... The trick is at the bottom!
    Tabs's game on Hellraider Pazos
    Nice one Tabs, congratulations
    Pazos's game on Underground Pazos
    Gota make better time
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness Gavin!speed
    wow that was lucky!!!
    Tabs's game on Hellraider Sena
    agree tabs
    Levelpack Explorer Sena
    no it isn't
    Pazos's game on Hill Sena
    np! pity ur second now
    Ruben's game on Hill Sena
    Well done ruben! Can we please see?
    Tabs's game on Hellraider PrayeR
    can u send me sum luck, Tabs?
    Pazos's game on Hill PrayeR
    i always crash there.
    Pazos's game on Hill PrayeR
    btw Pazos, u r not very fast at the first part of the map.
    it can be done faster (look at my game) so probably u can advance 1-2 seconds and take 1st place back.
    Ruben's game on Hill PrayeR
    haha
    u r so cruel, Sena!
    Ruben's game on Hill Sena
    Why? It's a fair comment!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS JudgeDredd
    Yes I have and it works wonderfully.
    Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
    Maybe in a while...
    Ruben's game on Hill PrayeR
    see private messages, Sena
    Ruben's game on Hill Sena
    gotcha PrayerR

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    Time Trial Champions Sena
    Here comes Dai...
    Oliver's game on Floors Gavin!speed
    SWEET!
    Oliver's game on Floors Sena
    i wonder how long it took to get the ending right
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Sena
    i like counter strike and runescape, runescape is da bomb counter strike rocks as well. For all you runescape plyers, i'm rs name msena
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Sena
    and go by steam account [mEo!], catch me on cs servers
    Ideas Bill
    turn off the tutor
    I think it would be great to be able to turn off the tutor on the first two levels. I use the tap bottom middle of the screen to switch directions. so i am in the middle of the game and i go to turn around tap the screen and it ends my game and starts the tutor ride.
    turn off the tutor Sena
    i know what you mean, but It's only 2 levels
    Ideas Bill
    devices and controls
    I would like to know everyone's devices and controls they use. It would be cool if it was part of their online profile. I am interested to see if the best players use the same devices and the same control buttons. I use a treo 600 palm and controls are
    dpad up = accellerate
    dpad down = brake
    phone or left button is balance back
    calander or second left button is balance right
    turn off the tutor Bill
    yes... but i'm in like 30th place on those 2 levels...
    Biker's Cafe Bill
    Bejeweled...
    i have gotten hooked on bejeweled and bubble shooter mobile
    they are dumb games but still addicting especially when you are having high score competition between friends.
    bubble shooter mobile can be found on absolutist.com

    devices and controls Tabs
    I use a palm 3c - in black and white mode.
    It works well for me.

    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    I will Prayer.. But its really difficult to beat Ruben, he is really good.
    Ruben's game on Hill Pazos
    Nice one Ruben!!! Congratulations man
    Lee's game on Square Lee
    not pretty, but I finally made the leap
    Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
    Public
    Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
    It's public.
    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    Thanks for the Tip PrayeR, i will get my first place back, but Ruben its really good!
    Andres s's game on Hill Pazos
    Nice one Andres s!!!
    Pazos's game on Hill Sena
    aww cmon pazos, not like there's a new tactic Let us see!
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Lee
    Managed to get a quick "well" drop on one of my goes, but didn't recover quickly.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=24733

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    Pazos's game on Hill PrayeR
    kewl
    Ruben's game on Hill Ruben
    Enjoy it while it's here since I've got a better time and I'm going to put it here.
    Andres s's game on Hill Ruben
    Buena mae. Nice one.
    Hill Time Trial Pazos
    Costa Rica Rules Hill!!!
    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    Maybe in a while Sena!!!
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Sena
    I still think my start is the quickest and it might shave off a second or two
    Andres s's game on Hill Pazos
    Nice one Andres s!
    Ruben's game on Hill Pazos
    Nice one Ruben!
    Pazos's game on Hill Pazos
    Costa Rica Rules Hill!
    You Qi Levels chang3rd
    Quote : [Hehe, usual Malaysians aren't smart enough to spot a good game .]

    how can u say that , i've been playing for like a year but havent registered cuz quite wasting time

    so here i am , but still can beat You Qi

    oh ya , jz promoting abit 1st , im making a lvlpack , hope to get good feedback next time
    PrayeR's game on The Well PrayeR
    11.90 - 11.80 is DEFENETLY possible

    cmon Oliver
    PrayeR's game on The Well Sena
    i don't think so, good game though
    PrayeR's game on The Well PrayeR
    i was a little bit slow at the end
    so i think 0.40 - 0.30sec faster is possible
    Juanma's game on Up! Up! Up! Daniel121
    this is not freestyle
    Danilo's game on Downhill Madness Dags
    Why did this get a vote?
    Juanma's game on Up! Up! Up! PrayeR
    that's hardcore. lol

    )))))))))))))
    PrayeR's game on Cloudwalk PrayeR
    that was really bad ending...
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe PrayeR
    why such begin? it's slow!
    Clay Serpent Time Trial PrayeR
    i use acceleration during whole level (driving at one wheel)
    nobody makes it (at least who shared their games)

    and i can not reach top10. ^^
    Sena's game on Fly! Sena
    17.** is possible!

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    Danilo's game on Downhill Madness Sena
    i have no idea
    Sena's game on Fly! PrayeR
    Sena's game on Fly! Sena
    lol ty PrayeR, it's a bit of a lucky game. The whole time i am accelerating and braking like crazy
    You Qi Levels chang3rd
    er , i mean i can't beat you qi , lol
    Time Trial Champions
    Dear sz:

    Must declare at first, my English ability is very bad, is really sorry.

    Very glad that you develop a very interesting bike game, I like very much, so I buy your products " Bike or Die " from PalmGear.

    But I meet some questions , please help while uploading, thanks!

    My synchronous ID is " davidtsuei "
    User's name is "David"

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The following is a question that I meet:

    I try to upload a record " Cemetery in Master KO's Levels " first ,Wrong information appears "User's name "David " has other people to register and use " , so Records is unable to show , must change user's name .

    So I change original user's name " David " into " CloudFly ".

    Later, I upload the records of a lot of again, have not any wrong information .

    But record successful display except this " Cemetery in Master KO's Levels ", a lot of other records uploaded have not shown .

    Dear sz, please help me to deal with this problem which perplex me , thank you
    Cemetery Time Trial PrayeR
    yet one player with medal and only one game submitted...

    Sena's game on Fly! PrayeR
    yeah, that was kinda crazy!
    very precise braking, i can not repeat that.
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    u uploded your games with nickname "David.."
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    "David..."
    Cemetery Time Trial PrayeR
    haha, Tabs will be angry
    Time Trial Champions
    to PrayeR:

    Omg,really ,10 games there are 3 points behind the name because of carelessness, how should I do?

    Level 3 - Loop 2 ,Level 4 - Loop 3 ,Level 5 - You Qi ,Level 5 - Cablecar ,Level 6 - Nose
    Level 7 - Cave 2 ,Level 8 - Tricky, Level 9 - Fly! ,Level 11 - Bird , Level 12 - Tatra

    AnyWay,my original user's name on the machine is "David", I upload 71 games, only present 11 now.

    "David ..." have 10, " CloudFly " has one,are there other 60 games that do not know where that is?

    I have already got " 8 gold medals " , " 5 silver medals ", " 7 bronze medals ", have all already uploaded, but the display unable to be correct comes out ....

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    to Sz:

    I am sorry, cause your trouble , please help, thanks!
    Loop 1 Time Trial PrayeR
    uebok....
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    well, i am shocked.

    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    btw, would be nice if u will not keep your non-medal games - private.

    second. SZ can join all your accounts into 1. just ask him.
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    third

    hey, play some levels where Oliver has gold medals



    muahahaha
    Golden Gate Time Trial PrayeR
    Sena
    then just repeat someones game 1 in 1

    Aleksey's game on Jump Over PrayeR
    ^^
    Medals by Country Ruben
    Costa Rica should be 7th
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Ok, now "DavidKing" = "David..." = "CloudFly"
    All the same man
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess DavidKing
    Beat my time!!

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    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess DavidKing
    Beat my time!!
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    go go go Tabs
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess PrayeR
    sure i will, but later
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    SZ please merge his accounts into one if this is possible
    ZhangXiean's game on Moon Madness PrayeR
    heh, i am very sad,
    but must say good job, i thought noone will be my time.
    ZhangXiean's game on Moon Madness ZhangXiean
    I hope I can keep my first Gold Medal for long time.
    DavidKing's game on Konecnik PrayeR
    with such slow ending - 24.xx

    errm.
    ZhangXiean's game on Moon Madness ZhangXiean
    HEHE....This is my first Gold Medal. I hope it can keep long time......
    ZhangXiean's game on Moon Madness PrayeR
    heh, so far i won't play this level several weaks, but then of course i will try to get my FIRST (that was my first gold ever) gold back
    monkeydave's game on Hill Sena
    agree you with you Prayer. Poor, poor boy
    Jump Over Time Trial Sena
    oh oh, big trouble now! Aleksey's made Oliver get a silver on a track that's not in the standard levels!
    Master KO's Levels Sena
    wow davidking number 1 on this pack!
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    there are so many accounts...
    Golden Gate Time Trial Sena
    i try, i fail got some work to do here
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess Sena
    lol
    ZhangXiean's game on Moon Madness Sena
    PrayeR's got it back!
    Sinus Mountains Time Trial Sena
    I hate this level
    PrayeR's game on Jump Over PrayeR
    Sinus Mountains Time Trial PrayeR
    why? pretty kewl level
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess PrayeR
    hehe, about 18.10 is possible, so i have a lot of chances

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    Golden Gate Time Trial PrayeR
    i believe in u, Sena
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Thank sena
    "DavidKing" = "David..." = "CloudFly"
    You are very good too
    Master KO's Levels DavidKing
    Thank sena
    "DavidKing" = "David..." = "CloudFly"
    You are very good too
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    Done! David...+CloudFly's games were just added to DavidKing account. wow, #6!
    (I'm sorry it took so long... please forgive)
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Thank you very much for Sz!
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Dieter
    Who here likes my level Pack?
    It took me a while to make it.
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Sz
    Haven't played yet, but the astounding number of 61 levels is quite impressive
    Info Line Sz
    yeah, these running results are refreshed by the same process as the country ranking page and the ranking notification service. unfortunately, they all were inactive for some time but should work well now.
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Dieter
    Thnx this is my favorite game off all time
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Dieter
    i have already started on my second level pack
    Levelpack Explorer Dieter
    my stats are
    Total 35809
    -completed 2373
    -failed a record setting 28141
    Time Trial Champions Dieter
    can you see how many points you have?
    Golden Gate Time Trial Sena
    lol, thanks prayer
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    Good on you Sz, now we don't have a lot of accounts everwhere
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Sena
    i haven't played them yet, but i will get them
    Info Line Sena
    good, cause for a while back we were only seeing first place results, not the latest
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    i don't think you can see how many points you have, you can only see how many points you are behind by
    Info Line PrayeR
    thanks SZ
    Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
    mg... i hate this level... it just does not work properly...
    it does not alow me to finish in many cases even if i touch the flag. 41th place..
    A little harder than it seems Powerman
    not really

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    eventually you will get it Powerman
    that´s very funny
    this is pointless Powerman
    0:00,90 s
    Bottle Time Trial Sena
    i've stuffed mine on my palm, used a cheat and now it's something which is impossible to beat have to save the time manually. This is the case on a few levels. Sz, is there a way to fix this?
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Sena
    playing now, but some of these levels are really pointless...
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Powerman
    some seems to be impossible but lot of fun
    Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
    it should not be on Online Competion, this level.
    Survival Bg
    This level yet to be completed in its finished form. Good luck!
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    great struggle for third place he?? prayer is really trying to keep that bronze... lets see what we can do...
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    back off mata, i am not fighting for this third place.

    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    so ya can save here space on forum and dont comment such ****
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    i know that if u will replay some standard levels now u will get this place easy.

    and anyway Davidking is coming.
    Oliver's game on Hellraider Oliver
    maybe this is the right way...cheers...
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock Oliver
    sorry sena...but you can do it faster...
    Oliver's game on Tatra Oliver
    CLIMB OR JUMP!!!
    hey guys, do you think this deserves your vote!!?, tnx...
    anyway i'm still proud because i think i'm the first to do this...hehe.
    Oliver's game on Tatra PrayeR
    hehe, i did this several times
    just was not lucky at the end.
    Oliver's game on Tatra Oliver
    kin'a easy when you do it once. you can zoom the movie to have a closer look on how it's done.
    Oliver's game on Tatra PrayeR
    i know, as i said i did it

    my biggest problem on this level is the end, taking the finish flag.

    anyway gj Oliver.

    Oliver is back
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Dieter
    i know
    BikeOrDie - Dieter Dieter
    My second level pack is going to be way better
    Ideas Ruben
    Replays
    I think it would be cool and interesting that when you are watching someone's replay, you could be able to view the seconds.

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    Bike O'Clock Time Trial PrayeR
    now u can worry
    Oliver's game on Hellraider PrayeR
    very nice bike handling at the begin, well, at whole level too
    Replays PrayeR
    lolololololololololloololololol
    Oliver's game on Tatra PrayeR
    btw, sad that u opened your movie
    Oliver's game on Tatra Pazos
    Nice one Oliver
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess DavidKing
    I can accomplish 18,50 ,it is impossible for me to accomplish 18,10
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock DavidKing
    Well Done
    Oliver's game on Tatra DavidKing
    wow!! Cool, very good Oliver.
    Pazos's game on Riding School Part 2 Pazos
    Gota make better time
    Pazos's game on Riding School Pazos
    Hope you like it!!!
    Multiplayer OrR
    Imagine a deathmatch mode in Bike or Die 2... With huge arenas, big guns and stuff... Standart weapon would be a lance...
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    Hey prayer come down!!! i never said it is something bad... youre a good player and your are doing your best to be third...maybe you need some rest of BOD to recover some coolness man....
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess PrayeR
    and?
    DavidKing's game on Midnight Mess PrayeR
    if i will write 17.00 u will answer the same thing...
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    ouch, sorry Mata, i was not very polite
    and understood u wrong.
    Oliver's game on Tatra Oliver
    thanks for the compliments guys. i'm actually happy to show it to everyone...let's take this game to the next level...
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    Oliver just must finish all You Qi Levels
    and he will be first.


    year 2007
    News
    Oliver just got all gold medals on all levels except "Bottle"

    lol
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    MATA
    some explonations, i really dont care about this third place

    because if u will play some old levels u will beat me, DavidKing will, Oliver will, Aleksey will, probably Tabs will. so i am just playing levels, this third place was not my goal
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock Oliver
    Thanks Davidking, you're pretty good considering i think you're new in bike or die...some more weeks and you have all the gold medals...pls leave one for me...hehe
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
    yes sena the 2nd last flag, must have been a second faster. prayer how to begin faster?

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    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe PrayeR
    You Qi begin, i did the same and i think it's a bit faster
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock PrayeR
    hey Oliver, u never said that to me! hehe

    i think DavidKing played sum time already, just made upload of all games at one time
    Finding Mice Time Trial You Qi
    mind to have a *glance*?
    Nik's game on Konecnik Down PrayeR
    all this time u played this level?
    :-/
    Finding Mice Time Trial PrayeR
    here You Qi

    all is easy.
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice PrayeR
    shared
    Oliver's game on Tatra Aleksey
    Very nice
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock Sena
    I Hate you oliver. I will do everything i can to BRING YOU DOWN on this level. It seems to be a week for bringing down people on levels that was their first gold medal. Jk about all the threat part Well done
    Bottle Time Trial Sena
    agree
    Oliver's game on Tatra Sena
    I've been trying this way for a while, but not succeded. Well done
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    oliver, you finally submitting all your times?
    Roel's game on Underground Sena
    i think it's time people to let this one go...
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    lol PrayeR
    DavidKing's game on OrR's Cave Sena
    the first time under 40seconds...
    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home Sena
    Lol PrayeR, past private
    monkeydave's game on Hill monkeydave
    two months later and I still feel the pain!!! Mata's looks a lot like this, except he didn't choke at the end like I did! AAAAAAARRGHHHH!!!
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock PrayeR
    yeah, make him!!!!!
    Ideas PrayeR
    same times
    well, if u made same time later - u get one place lower

    i mean. example. rachman! is first at "Bottle" and Dai is second, but they have the same time.

    but Dai plays this game not so long ago, and if he would play from begin - probably he would make 6.26 first.

    so, maybe it's good idea - when times are the same - places are the same?
    at least for medal places.

    it will be fair. i think.
    The Veenk's game on Underground The Veenk
    Done by Tyson
    The Veenk's game on Underground The Veenk

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    BOD ZodiacGamer Community Sz
      OrR says:
    "Here is a new levelpack I put together for the highscore competition. I only made two of the levels, the others were done by other members of the ZodiacGamer community. It's a nice mix of easy and impossible levels. I put them in an order so that everyone should at least be able to see all the levels.
    I hope you like it! "
    BOD ZodiacGamer Community OrR
    Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die!
    same times Ruben
    Good idea Prayer.
    Always wondered if they put it like that but thought that they counted one more point.
    Tatra Time Trial PrayeR
    for gods sake, have some respect to Oliver and share your f**** games.
    Tatra Time Trial PrayeR
    hehe
    Oliver's game on Tatra OrR
    Hehe, great!
    Joey's game on Fly! OrR
    Wow, I always wondered if this was possible... Now how about a level that requires you to pull off this move to complete it?
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese OrR
    Awesome! He crashed after one flip! o.o
    Pazos's game on Tricky Pazos
    I didnt' knew what was happening!!!
    Pazos's game on Underground Pazos
    I dont know how it happened!!!
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice You Qi
    nice work there!
    BOD ZodiacGamer Community You Qi
    I want highscore level!
    Pazos's game on Tricky PrayeR
    it happens pretty often
    Ideas Dieter
    For the next version
    I think in the next version you should be able to have moving ground. Or you have to get a flag and it would move a piece if ground or something like that.
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock Oliver
    Time Trial Champions Oliver
    yup sena, as you see, i have a lot of lousy games...
    BOD ZodiacGamer Community Powerman
    Nice to see you OrR!!!
    (Schön mal wieder von OrR zu hören, ich dachte ich würde auf ewig die Nr. 1 in Deutschland bleiben aber ich hoffe die Aufholjagd beginnt wieder.)
    Report a bug Ibanez
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650
    My Treo 650 fails every time with "Unrecognized response from the server"
    It appears to connect ok to start with saying it's connecteding, then sending data, then receiving data - then the error above.
    I had to uploaded a game using the website to create this account, still doesn't work from the Treo though.
    Any ideas?
    PrayeR's game on Moon Madness ZhangXiean
    55555....I will try my best~~~
    DavidKing's game on OrR's Cave DavidKing
    Thank Sena
    but 38.XX is possible.

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    PrayeR's game on Moon Madness PrayeR
    and if i ask u to try your best at another level?

    there are a lot of them
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 PrayeR
    same thing with my T5 (SE k700i - O2)
    PORTING to Nintendo DS PrayeR
    SZ, do u have plans to make version for PPC?

    because if palm1 will continue what they make last 2 years - i am going to betray PalmOS (even if i luv it!) because of Palm1 hardware issues (i have "whining" screen.. it's so annoying... why Sony left PDA market...)
    PrayeR's game on Tatra DavidKing
    You are really a terrible ...
    Well Done.
    PrayeR's game on Tatra PrayeR
    tnx, but 41.xx is possible so a lot of work here.
    same times Thiago
    i think the places must be the same not just for medals!
    it should be like this:

    1) rachman 6,26
    1) dai 6,26
    3) You Qi 6,28
    3) DDMac 6,28
    3) .. 6,28
    3) .. 6,28
    11) Dags 6,30
    11) Tabs 6,30

    and so on...
    it's better this way...


    see ya!
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 Ibanez
    Mmmm, does anyone know what the problem is?
    Clay Serpent Time Trial monkeydave
    I really can't figure out where there is another second and a half available here.
    SiuLun's Levels PrayeR
    congratulations Lesha!
    BOD ZodiacGamer Community OrR
    Ich bin 2000 Punkte hinter dir und mir fehlen nur zwei oder drei Level... Ich habe leider keine Zeit, Highscore Zeiten herauszufahren.
    For the next version OrR
    Water and movable objects would be nice...
    Bejeweled... OrR
    By favourite puzzle game is still Psarakia from Crazysoft. Mainly because I am completely lost trying to come up with a good tactic. I made a good score a long time ago. Now that I've understood how combos and stuff work I can't seem to reach it again...
    TouchBricks OrR
    It's a very nice touchscreen game! I have to buy it one of these days, the growing white box becomes increasingly annoying...
    PrayeR's game on Tatra Oliver
    attack of the clones...hehe...well you're all very good. yes i think 41 or less is possible. but i don't want to have a faster record for this...at least to preserve my authenticity...lol...and also, what about my vote guys...
    Oliver's game on Tatra PrayeR
    oki, my vote
    PrayeR's game on Tatra PrayeR
    i am not clon ^^
    i play this game with closed eyes


    i voted
    Tatra Time Trial DavidKing
    i voted

    Good Job.
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 You Qi
    same to my clie too! it's server problem, happened last year but dunno why suddenly back to normal.
    same times You Qi
    good idea thiago!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS You Qi
    my friend are able to play bike or die(in demo version, coz he can't set the hotsync id) in his ppc, thru an emulator(I forgotten the name, but it's very popular, if I'm not mistaken released last month).

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    Oliver's game on Tatra You Qi
    you got my vote too!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS PrayeR
    i know, but i heard there r grafics problems - looks not very nice.

    anyway i ordered loox 718 now, so will play not very often Bike or Die (will use Palm PDA of my wife)
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice PrayeR
    actually there is one yet little trick which allow to finish this level in 47-48 sec. or probobly even faster.

    i did it 2 times (heh, i say that pretty often. lol)
    but then crashed at the end. if i will have time i will try to do that once again and then will show the game.
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    Tabs, cmon, submit your game!
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    but you can improve on those cause your oliver
    same times PrayeR
    yeah Thiago, it can be done in this way too

    but i think
    1. rachman!
    1. rachman!
    2. You Qi
    2. DDmac
    ...
    3. Dags
    3. Tabs
    ...

    can be also good too.

    what u think SZ?
    The Veenk's game on Underground PrayeR
    heh, Tyson can make that for me too?

    PrayeR's game on Downhill Madness PrayeR
    too popular time.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    won!! PrayeR Will obtain to the champion
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    no, DavidKing
    i won't (i think) and even if i will - rachman! is reall champion, if he would still play - i will never had a chance to get so close. almost the same i can say about You Qi.
    Oil Drop Time Trial Tabs
    I cant - My hotsync is screwed.
    In fact I'm not sure wether its the hotsync,
    my palm, or my com1 port.I've had to hard
    reset my palm meaning I've lost all my games.

    Just for the record I had a 16.72 and a
    16.58 game.
    Oil Drop Time Trial PrayeR
    omg, Tabs, why u did not copy your game to SD card, as i said?

    or u think u can repeat your results?
    PrayeR's game on Wheel Insider PrayeR
    heh, that was surprise for me.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Your are correct, rachman! A real King of BoD.
    He is really very amazing .
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    to my last post, i ment that You Qi is almost as good as rachman!

    and of course Oliver will get into top 3
    Time Trial Champions You Qi
    I'm already not as good as previous... after I got my jog dial spoiled and sent for warranty... I took me 2 months to get back a good repaired device. and now I can't play it so well, additionally I'm having my pre-U exam this year, suffering with pressuresssssssss!
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    hey You Qi, u already prooved that u are very god player and one of the best
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 Ibanez
    Well hopefully the people who run the server will see this and do something about it.
    Nik's game on Konecnik Down Nik
    no man, i always play all levels threw. but that's my favourite level.
    Nik's game on Konecnik Down PrayeR
    my favorite too

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    Aleksey's game on Jump Over Aleksey
    You Qi Levels You Qi
    you had been playing a year and only completed 3 levels with 100++ ranking? Oh My God~! LOL!!
    For the next version Tiger
    3d style looks on it (like Commander keen 4,5,6, and dreams) Would be sweet with it
    Maybe a teleporter too....
    Multiplayer Tiger
    I only wish...
    Ideas Thiago
    Web Stats
    Being able to see other's players stats in each level (and total) would be nice!
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    go prayer, well done getting into 1st!
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    My prophecy is real, PrayeR is obtained to the champion, Anyway, congratulate!
    PrayeR's game on Downhill Madness PrayeR
    well, lucky
    dai's game on Downhill Madness PrayeR
    tnx Dai
    PrayeR's game on Midnight Mess PrayeR
    opened
    PrayeR's game on Cave PrayeR
    well, as u c i was pretty slow at the begin (way down)
    actually u can be at 4th red flag at 15-17!!!!! sec. (i did this)
    in this game i was there at 24 sec. so about 57-58 sec is possible. why i dont do that? well, it's kinda hard and i almost always crash in the middle of the level. too many spikes
    Touch Bricks Time Trial PrayeR
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=25369
    sumbody can finish this level using this route?
    one time i got the flag and even jumped down but crashed.
    Time Trial Champions Dags
    Well done Prayer! Time for Rachman to respond now ...
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Dags
    I dunno though - I tried to do it that way many times but haven't succeeded yet - maybe time for Rachman to figure something out?
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    tnx guys.

    well, it does not matter who will respond now
    i will get my loox718 tomorrow and will sell T|T5
    so i am leaving BoD.

    if SZ will mape ppc version i will be back, someday
    or i will use palm of my wife, but that will be too seldom.

    so i am quitting active playing of BoD.
    Touch Bricks Time Trial PrayeR
    i am 100% that rachman! already tryed to play that way.
    he could not miss such possibility.
    BOD- ADAM'S LEVELS wierdo
    so how do you like my lp
    PrayeR's game on Cave You Qi
    I hope you dont do that too! this is the only medal i can secure..
    Touch Bricks Time Trial You Qi
    nah~ nothing to do with that I think. I tried numerous time very long long long time ago but didn't figure anything out.
    PrayeR's game on Cave PrayeR
    i will not, that very nasty level
    and those spikes

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    Touch Bricks Time Trial PrayeR
    well, then it's sad. could be great trick.
    Bird Time Trial You Qi
    anyone willing to show the secret?
    Clay Serpent Time Trial You Qi
    Check out my game, maybe this is the best way?
    Web Stats You Qi
    u mean in your palm? or what?
    Web Stats Thiago
    not in my palm... in the website...
    it would be like this in the player`s profile:

    Time Trial - #26/1000, played 13302 times
    1. Riding School - #15/649 (0:29,46), played 1205 times
    2. Riding School Pt 2 - #60/695 (0:13,12), played 768 times
    3. Double Sprint - #45/581 (0:22,98), played 590 times
    4. Sinus Mountains - #9/589 (0:32,94), played 298 times

    It would be very funny!!!
    And the user could choose if he wants to display it or not (profile options)
    Time Trial Champions OrR
    Why not use that Palm emulator on PPC?
    BOD ZodiacGamer Community OrR
    So, anyone likes this levelpack and wants it added to the HS competition?
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    come again...

    PRAYER!!! NOOO!!!
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    OrR
    You Qi said that u can not enter Hotsynk name on emulator

    Sena
    i luv ya 2 :p
    PrayeR's game on Touch Bricks Sena
    I submitted a game like this a while ago, search my games for it, and once i managed to get the flag. of course dreams of a new path immediatly filled my head, but i don't think this is possible to complete.
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    PrayeR you on at the same time as me! How do you set up this computer emulator thingy?
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    lol i just noticed the end of your post prayer, lol, tyvm
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    emulator? dunno, i even dont have ppc yet, hopefully it will come tomorrow, then i will check how it works.
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    if you have a sd card on your current palm, get one of those backup programs
    Master KO's Levels Sena
    why thank you! It's sorta hard at the moment, what with oliver
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    you wouldn't lose your bod stuff, right? i don't
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    yeah, i keep all BoD stuff at my PC
    Time Trial Champions Oliver
    congrats prayers, well done man, you deserve it....thumbs up...
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    tnx m8

    now it's your turn
    Time Trial Champions PrayeR
    to be the chamion

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    Clay Serpent Time Trial Oliver
    same as mine You Qi, but i don't know how Mata do it soooo fast...
    Clay Serpent Time Trial Oliver
    i mean the last part
    Time Trial Champions Oliver
    i thinks it's too much for me....but let's see
    Volcano's game on Up stairs Oliver
    fantastic
    Volcano's game on Up stairs PrayeR
    especially the second trape, he is kinda flying!
    Oliver's game on The Well Oliver
    this is the best i can do PrayeR...
    Oliver's game on The Well PrayeR
    at the moment it's 100% enough
    Sena's game on Golden Gate Sena
    Finally!
    epizza's game on Riding School Part 2 epizza
    My first freestyle!
    DavidKing's game on The Well DavidKing
    Thank PrayeR
    DavidKing's game on The Well DavidKing
    Thank PrayeR
    Sena's game on Golden Gate PrayeR
    n1
    Sena's game on Golden Gate DavidKing
    Very Good
    CD's game on Loop 2 CD
    This is a real spin!!!! If you look carefuly you can see the wheels totally separate from the frame, and look the way the bike colapses it can almost fit in your back pack. jajajaj ta poca madre nooo?
    Please vote for this movie
    Freestyle Competition CD
    Hey! I just got started on the freestyle competition please watch my movie it is great, like nothing seen before. if you like it halp me and vote for it please.
    Thanks.
    A todos los mexicanos voten por mi freestyle movie, porfavos.
    Gracias. Vamos mexico debemos estar en primer lugar.
    CD's game on Loop 2 PrayeR
    wow!
    CD's game on Loop 2 OrR
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12282 <--This one is the original...
    Freestyle Competition OrR
    That has been done before...
    Oliver's game on The Well Pazos
    Nice Oliver!
    Time Trial Champions Pazos
    Why isnt' rachman! playing any more?

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    Sena's game on Golden Gate Sena
    i only said finally cause it has taken me this long to do it
    CD's game on Loop 2 Sena
    ya, this has been done before, nothing new here
    Web Stats Ando
    that would be awesome, to see who got lucky and who played it a million times. another idea- to show which recording was their top one
    Levelpack Explorer Dieter
    I submitted my stinkin 2nd level pack like 2 weeks ago. Im almost done with my third!?!?!?!!??!!
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Dieter
    Quote
    "Dansexy
    What about Firestorm, the GBA emulator for palm."
    I downloaded it but i cant get any games on my Palm(OS5).
    BikeOrDie - Dieter2 Dieter
    Please rate my Levels
    same times Sz
    well... i don't think that the general rule is inappropriate.
    medals, like the world records go to the first person who makes the best time.
    but of course this particular level ( Bottle Time Trial) is not well suited for the hall of fame

    this reminds me about some other levels, where our bikers have found the way to shorten the route or solve the level differently from the designer expectations - like  Bike Impossible Time Trial,  Downhill Madness Time Trial. i'm tempted to "fix" these levels to make them more challenging. what do you think? as the tribute for the current champions of these levels, their performance (with movies) would be displayed on a special "greatest achievements" page. this would also happen with the "Bottle" (but it would be removed completely because there is no way to "fix" it)
    do you agree?
    Bottle Time Trial Sz
    yeah, i agree, this levels will be probably excluded from the competition (see also  same times)
    same times PrayeR
    tnx for the reply SZ
    i agree about Downhill madness (bu must say it's pretty hard to get good time) but i dont agree about bike impossible because there u have to make severla good tricks to finish level in "short" maner.

    p.s. SZ, could You please answer - are u going to make pocketpc version of BoD? because i am just thinkin' to sell my palm or not to sell. thanks.
    Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
    tnahks SZ, that woud be great!

    and if it possible probably u can leave rachman! and Dai's and You Qi medals after deleting this level? that would be fair.
    Bike Impossible Time Trial PrayeR
    Lee
    watch at Volcano's game at high zoom - there u can see the trick, it's very very easy when u get how to do it.
    Bike Boulevard Ruben
    In this level you have to do what Joey did in Fly.
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Sz
    PPC - probably yes, but not in the near future because of my other projects (christmas is would be the possible date).
    PORTING to Nintendo DS PrayeR
    k, i will wait then
    Justin Bell's game on Riding School Part 2 Justin Bell
    well i just couldn't stop flipping...
    Guillaume's game on Riding School Justin Bell
    ok, where's the freestyle?
    Ando's game on You Qi Ando
    took like 500 tries to get right
    CD's game on Loop 2 CD
    if you can do it in this level then yo can tel me it is not impresive, i had done this trick before in a palm which wasn't mine so it took time to do it agian so i don't think you have the original OrR.
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 You Qi
    it's working back!
    CD's game on Loop 2 You Qi
    I miss the previous 1. so, this is my 1st time watching this trick! nick!

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    CD's game on Loop 2 You Qi
    oops! what a typo, *nice!
    CD's game on Loop 2 CD
    Yeah it is really nice try it in Loop 2, see if you can do it, and then try in palmstamp which is a lot easier, which OrR tells us is the"original", which isn`t. Even though i didn't sumited it fist means he is the original and mine is much more dificult.
    Thanks You Qi, hope you liked it.
    BOD - King Fret's Levels Ruben
    I hope you like my levels. Prayer might like some of the small ones since hesays he likes the small ones.
    Ideas Ibanez
    Windows based Level Editor
    Any chance of a level editor to run under Windows?
    thanks,
    P
    Windows based Level Editor You Qi
    use a palm simulator. lol!
    CD's game on Loop 2 OrR
    The original one was submitted 30 Nov 2004, 22:19. That is quite long ago. It is the original because it was the first one submitted. This trick is pretty boring if you have seen it once.
    Windows based Level Editor Powerman
    Where can I find a palm simulator?!?
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial PrayeR
    u finaly did that jump You Qi
    Windows based Level Editor Ibanez
    Actually it does work - but I was wanting more!!
    Palm simulator available from http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/simulator/
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial You Qi
    ZodBoy's game on The Right Way ZodBoy
    He He
    BikeOrDie - Dieter2 Dieter
    tell me if you like it too; please.
    Time Trial Champions Sena
    wow david king comming back
    The Veenk's game on Underground Sena
    well done
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent Oliver
    i think i should be next to rachman here as he submitted the time earlier.
    Levelpack Explorer Dieter
    do you guys like my level pack?
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent PrayeR
    there is rotation of places for games with same time.
    BikeOrDie - Dieter2 Powerman
    I love it, pleas submit your 3. LP
    Ideas marc
    PayPal
    ok were can i buy bike or die with paypal? what site please reply
    PayPal marc
    anybody?

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    Biker's Cafe marc
    PayPal
    can you buy bike or die with paypal or not or do you have to use a credit card
    BikeOrDie - Dieter2 Dieter
    Thanx my third one is done and has 25 levels. Im submitting it now!
    PayPal Sz
    clickgamer.com accepts paypal payments.
    here is the direct link to the purchase page
    PayPal Sz
    clickgamer.com accepts paypal payments.
    here is the direct link to the purchase page
    You Qi's game on Jump Over You Qi
    Websync Ando
    stuffed??? when i go to the java website, it says youve got the latest
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    Big jump - hard to get right!
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    I get the first long leap pretty regularly now, but I am still trying on the second one!
    BikeOrDie_-Dieter3 Dieter
    Thank you for rating my level packs i hope you like this one.
    Lee's game on Human Insides You Qi
    wow! Lee! nice 1st jump there! check out my 2nd jump!
    You Qi's game on Human Insides You Qi
    Here you are, Lee!
    Time Trial Champions Powerman
    Hi Sz! When will you release the next Levelpack !?!?!?!?
    Lee's game on Human Insides DavidKing
    Lee! You are very good.
    hard to Big jump. nice.
    Lee's game on Human Insides PrayeR
    i thought it's very clear and not secret that 2 long jumps are possible :p
    Bottle Time Trial You Qi
    it's weird! I'm the 1st 1 who get 0:06,28. how come DDMac and lee suddenly jump aboe me?
    Lee's game on Human Insides You Qi
    I know you knew it. but so wat? sometimes we need to be enlighten.
    Lee's game on Human Insides PrayeR
    just my 5 cent
    Bottle Time Trial PrayeR
    there is rotation of places for games with the same time.
    Levelpack Explorer Ruben
    So, did someone try out my new levels? Did you like them?
    Please rate them
    Oil Drop Time Trial Tabs
    I got my hotsync working now - it
    was a dodgy com port.

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    Tabs's game on Oil Drop DavidKing
    Actually this gold medal belonged to you.
    Well Done.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop Tabs
    No sir - gold medals are earned.
    Gold belongs to none.
    Tabs's game on Oil Drop PrayeR
    sometimes they depend on PDA.. i just changed PDA (my is in repair service) and with new one - the drive is different, bike is not so elastic anymore and has more connection with ground but it's faster :/ so for some levels it's great and for some levels - it's very bad, i dunno why BoD acts so different on different devices.

    btw, kewl that u got your PDA repaired, Tabs
    Cemetery Time Trial PrayeR
    ouch, Tabs is back
    Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial PrayeR
    i can bet that Tabs will get his gold back on this level in 2 days
    PayPal wrenjosh
    I've paid with paypal, now how do unlock the demo? I haven't recieved an e-mail yet.
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth Oliver
    correct, must have been 21.xx if not for the last part
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth DavidKing
    The last Ending is too regrettable, so I choose to slow down the speed finally.
    DavidKing's game on Bike Impossible DavidKing
    It is different that I take the method to fetch flag.
    Golden Gate Time Trial PrayeR
    r u scared Oliver? lol
    You Qi's game on Vanilla Sky PrayeR
    very clear begining
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth DavidKing
    You defeated Oliver at last,Very Good.
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth Oliver
    whoa!!!how did you do that, very good...
    now i'm afraid...
    Clay Serpent Time Trial You Qi
    actually that's not my idea, I forgotten who I peeped, maybe is you Oliver!
    Clay Serpent Time Trial Oliver
    i don't think it's mine You Qi as I hide my game before. Maybe all of us just know it's the right way.
    Clay Serpent Time Trial PrayeR
    well, i think Mata plays the same i think he was a bit faster than we at the end.
    Clay Serpent Time Trial You Qi
    I remember the guy I peeped have the time something like 34,14 or 34,28...
    Aleksey's game on Jump Over Aleksey
    DavidKing's game on The Well PrayeR
    rachman!'s game on Sinus Mountains Snoboarder
    how do u hit the ground so hard and not crash??

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    Oliver's game on Hellraider Smalls
    nicely done, if only I could...
    Tabs's game on Sawtooth Smalls
    that last flag was awesome
    The Right Way Time Trial monkeydave
    if at first you don't get speed, try try again
    Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial PrayeR
    ok, not 2 but in 7 days
    Aleksey's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    now I might be able to pass this, I never knew how to get the last flag, thanks!
    Oliver's game on Hellraider PrayeR
    cruel life, isn't it
    Oliver's game on Hellraider DavidKing
    Well Done. Part of the ending,I appear mistake,otherwise 24.XX is possible.
    Oliver's game on Hellraider Oliver
    hehe, 25.34 is kin'a tough for me, if you can make it in 24.xx, i think it would take some time for me to get it back.
    Oliver's game on The Right Way PrayeR
    why secret?! Gold medal is opened...
    PrayeR's game on Cave PrayeR
    well, sorry You Qi that i talked about possibility and how beat your time..
    Oliver's game on The Right Way Oliver
    oki, it's open . but as you said gold medal is opened that's why i didn't open it. cheers
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth monkeydave
    Not to say you didn't do great, you did. But it looks like you could do even a little better. There is that one little hangup with your front tire at the very end. Great job!
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth PrayeR
    yeah, that's true, the end was a bit messy, i was to excited and did that mistake
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth monkeydave
    I'd be excited too. I've only been able to do the first part smooth twice and went too far over the jump both times.
    Windows based Level Editor Ando
    If you don't feel like saying you are a developer, you can try tapsmart handshare, which basicaly pits your palm's screen on your computer. the only bad thing is it's $30.
    There is a demo, though.
    Teapot Tiger
    Becouse the Northern Hemishere thinks they're held down, we think the sourthern Hemispere Is being held up
    monkeydave's game on Spike Cave monkeydave
    I think I should get the "originality" award for this one.
    Oliver's game on The Right Way Oliver
    Sorry DavidKing, seems like we are playing the same level for some time. . Now if you beat my time, it's yours, i don't want to play this level again........ever.....
    Oliver's game on The Right Way PrayeR
    yeah! that's not fair! i play 10 minutes per day and you, both, play whole day!
    Satrian's game on Pipe Universe monkeydave
    Nice! You should have tried to end it like I did mine (in time trials). You have another vote.

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    Oliver's game on The Right Way DavidKing
    Well done, Oliver, can compete for the gold medal with you at the same time , it is my honor, it's yours, i don't want to play this level again too.
    DavidKing's game on The Right Way DavidKing
    Time Trial Champions Powerman
    Find an new on: http://www.sitesled.com/members/deacondog/tapwave/ games/bikeordie/kiteeatinglevelpack.html
    Ruben's game on Wheel Insider Ruben
    LoTs Of FlIps.
    QuIcK RuN.
    Vote if you like...
    Pazos's game on Hill Javier
    Now I'm in third place Nice One Pazos
    Report a bug monkeydave
    "Invalid Recording File"
    I keep getting this error, which results in a failed upload. If I try uploading a best time again, I get the message that there are no best times to upload. So then I have to beat that time in order to try it again. Any advice?
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Ruben
    Why is this level so secret?
    You Qi's game on Human Insides Lee
    I knew it!!
    Nice one!
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    Well, I can get the first big jump1 out of 5 times, but that means that I have practiced the second jump a lot less - I'll get it eventually!
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Oliver
    maybe it's an open secret. it's because there nothing to hide (or is there? ). i open may game anyway. 43sec is posible.
    Oliver's game on Up! Up! Up! PrayeR
    ermm... it looks kinda slow.
    Oliver's game on Up! Up! Up! Oliver
    what about this? . as i said 43sec or less is possible. i don't want to play this level again...hehe...
    Oliver's game on Golden Gate PrayeR
    well Oliver, that's war
    Ideas PrayeR
    some thoughts
    well, i think that only Oliver still have fun playing all those levels (well, that's another story)

    probably time for new levelpacks?

    i understand that all our games take space on server and if this is the problem - probably u can to freeze all present custom levelpaks (except You Qi's pack, it's relative new) in online competition. delete all recordings except top 3 for every level. so u can free space and still peoples will see how to play those levels.

    and add new 3 LP's?
    like example Ruben made some good one's.

    i already can not look at Master KO and SiuLun's Levels.
    so boring. even if i play now very seldom (coz i dont have palm device)
    some thoughts PrayeR
    p.s. in that case results for old level packs can be removed from Online Competition. i will loose 1st place, but i dont care.

    but medals for those levelpacks should be not deleleted. noone will want to loose their medals.
    some thoughts PrayeR
    SZ
    or if i got it wrong and space and ammount of recordings is not the problem - could You please just add new LP's?
    Justy's game on The Right Way Justy
    This Level is Ok
    Oliver's game on The Right Way Justy
    Sweet!
    Justy's game on The Right Way Justy
    I dont use the fast way
    some thoughts Sz
    i know that "bike or die" site might seem neglected these days, it is because of the new game (which is really close, but contrary to my earlier declaration it was not finished in spring, please don't beat me!)

    for now we should not worry about the space for new recordings. the database needs some optimizations because of the growing amount of data, but it can be done later, after the new game (otherwise it won't be ever released )

    nevertheless, i agree it is high time to add some new levels to the competition!
    my first thoughts were:
     MrD's Levels - amazing levelpack (my favorite), but some levels are insanely tough, so far i have completed only half of them (!)
     ZodiacGamer Community Levels - not every level completed, but at least i know HOW it could be done
    i also like  Ruben's Levels, i remember playing this levelpack long time ago and i was surprised that these levels are very enjoyable despite their simplicity. such easy levelpack could invite more new players into competition (who are currently deterred by the high difficulty level).

    please help me pick the right levelpack! (i does not mean the other 2 won't be added later, but for now let's just pick one)

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    some thoughts PrayeR
    tnx for the reply SZ.
    i will defenetly vote for Ruben's Levels.

    ZodiacGamer Community Levels has some levels made by Drako (i think i spelled his nickname right) and i dont think that they are good. and MrD's Levels are a bit complicated, that's true.

    so u have my and 100% Ruben's vote. lol.
    PayPal marc
    ok i did every thing right but my code wont work
    Report a bug marc
    reg code
    ok i bought the game from clickgamer.com and i entered the reg code they gave me and it doesent work help!!
    wrenjosh's game on Sinus Mountains marc
    gotta speed up but very good
    Dezu's game on The Right Way Dezu
    Pinche Remis puto me la pelas kbron jajajajaja...
    Dezu's game on Underground Dezu
    Me costo un huevo agarrale la onda a esta madre...
    reg code Sz
    the registration code depends on your hotsync id, you might get a wrong code if the hotsync id was entered incorrectly. anyone experiencing such problems should contact support@toyspring.com
    some thoughts Sz
    i think i will revert back to my original idea - make a new levelpack from the existing, best rated levels. this would let me add some MrD's levels without making the levelpack impossible to pass (and yes, many Ruben's levels have good rating)

    as for the ZodiacGamer/Draken... they are not that bad
    Nose Time Trial CD
    Sorry for taking your gold Prayer but it was the level for me to gain my first medal. It is easy ones you master the second loop.
    Nose Time Trial PrayeR
    np CD. that was not my last gold
    Oliver's game on Downhill Madness CD
    i cant do the barkiing thing, how can you do it i dont really get how to do it
    BOD - Summer Pack Sz
    This pack is not really new, we saw all these levels in other levelpacks (by MrD, Ruben, Hank Chill and RDB). This time most of the levels are quite easy to complete. After all, we have summer! (and hopefuly it will encourage new players)
    Summer Pack CD
    thanks! I really needed a new pack to catch up with older players I am now an 15 spot. i like the grand cayon level.
    Grand Canyon Sz
    Slightly modified version of  Grand Canyon
    Castle Sz
    I added some arrows and modified the tower to make this level easier. Compare the original version:  Castle
    Equisplateral Sz
    Like  Equisplateral but the starting point is moved, allowing for different routes (or not?)
    Newsck in the Hall of Fame
    16 levels from the existing levelpacks were selected to form the new Hall of Fame levelpack. Most of the Summer levels are noticeably easier than other levelpacks - now everyone can earn the Time Trial Competition points!
     Summer Pack
    Dieter's game on Underground Dieter
    I know I was slow on the bottom but it was cool.
    Summer Pack CD
    Sz i think there is a problem with WOW level i have done it 2 times and both times the sever told me it was an invelid record I dont know what to do.
    Summer Pack Dieter
    same here

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    Summer Pack You Qi
    finally after a 3 months waiting, A new HighScore levelpack BORN!
    Summer Pack Sz
    oops, you are right, the server rejects WOW recordings because of a bug in the recording verification procedure. this problem will be resolved as soon as possible. meanwhile just ignore the error message and proceed to the next level. sorry...
    WOW Time Trial Aleksey
    Problems
    I finished this level two times, and tried to load result. At loading a level, to me speak "Your recording was rejected by the server (invalid recording file)"
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial CD
    How did youget through the mine in the bottom level????
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    well, very sad...

    this is defently not level pack for all players. it won't be easy for most of peoples... (((((((((

    i awaited something completely different..
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    and LP after 1 year bike or die sheet.
    Summer Pack You Qi
    my view point is totally different from yours prayer! ONLY this kind of levelpack can last the gameplay longer.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    ugu, will last the game longer.. for 65 players? like in your levelpack?

    i dont say it's bad level pac. it's good and i will play of course. but it's not for newbies.
    Summer Pack Sz
    well, MrD's levels are definitely not for everyone, but i hope that most players should at least pass the Ruben's levels contained in this pack.
    PrayerR: what levels (from the existing levelpacks) would you recommend for a next hall of fame levelpack? (i'd like to know what is your idea of the "optimum" levels)
    WOW Time Trial Sz
    yeah, it's a bug and i'm working on the solution
    for now just ignore this level, it will be fixed soon.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    i dunno SZ... i like when level is played by many peoples... like 500, 1000

    so levels should be interesting for newbies...
    but i am not newbie.. so i dunno
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    well, i can not upload any game - it says "Your recording was rejected by the server (unknown level)"

    what to do?
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    i tryed new install of BOD, new install of this level pack - still can not upload.
    Catapult Back Time Trial MrD
    Lots of secrets here. Have the grace to show us how you did it.
    MrD's game on Triangles MrD
    Plenty of room for improvement here. Should be able to knock 20 secs off this time.
    Congratulations! Time Trial MrD
    Got the "invalid recording file" message trying to submit on this level.
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial PrayeR
    ermmm... this level is almost self-playing level.. no sence
    Cave Dweller Time Trial PrayeR
    i already hate this level
    Catapult Back Time Trial PrayeR
    it's straight level, nothing complicated
    Grand Canyon Time Trial PrayeR
    this level is good. like it

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    Summer Pack MrD
    There are too many secrets here. Don't you want to show us how good you are?
    Summer Pack MrD
    Oh, the hell with it, all mine are private now as well. Don't see why I should be the only one.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    well, MrD, could u plz shut up and see that a lot of peoples makes their games public too. i keep only part of my golds private. all others my games are public.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    he is only one... the 1 is Tabs.
    Triangles Time Trial PrayeR
    this level is BAD, i dont understand how it reached Online Competition.

    all is bad - idea, realization and tricks.
    Castle Time Trial PrayeR
    u c MrD,
    open game - will soon be beaten by someone who will never open game ^^
    Congratulations! Time Trial PrayeR
    nothing interesting
    WOW Time Trial Sz
    done! i hope this was the last bug in the submission system
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    almost there
    Triangles Time Trial MrD
    But otherwise OK?
    Aleksey's game on Congratulations! Aleksey
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    see my game CD, it's easy
    Triangles Time Trial PrayeR
    last part of the map? well, yea, it's ok.

    if u decided to do such level - it would be better if u did it not so long. because first stairs are just annoying.
    Castle Time Trial PrayeR
    kewl Level BUT! those arrows is bad thing... was not nessesary.
    Blizzard Time Trial PrayeR
    good one, very solid level.
    Catapult Time Trial PrayeR
    another straight level... times will be very close.. no tweaking is possible
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial PrayeR
    but looks great and riding is fun
    Summer Pack You Qi
    The earth won't stop turning becoz of you, MrD.
    Summer Pack You Qi
    Dont underestimate newbie, prayer!
    PrayeR's game on Fear Of The Dark You Qi
    nice 1

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    Triangles Time Trial You Qi
    I found nothing wrong bout the level. The level design quite creative for me. You are likely a frog under well. Why can't you accept new changes? Dont keep mumbling this and that where you retrict everything and force to follow the cup of your tea. Grow up, Prayer!
    Summer Pack MATA
    i dont like this level pack!! in the standard levels, the longest level was Cheese, done in 1 minute or so.. in this one EVERY level is that long. Short, and fast levels are very exciting too!!
    Summer Pack You Qi
    Cave Dweller... this is the level I dont recommend in HoF!
    PrayeR's game on Fear Of The Dark PrayeR
    tnx
    Triangles Time Trial PrayeR
    where to grow up?
    Summer Pack DavidKing
    I agree to the statement of MATA
    Triangles Time Trial MrD
    You may have missed the point. It is only by having so many down stairs that the level is challenging. Would you like a version with only 3 stairs perhaps, and only 2 going back up so that you can finish it without getting annoyed? It wouldn't be much fun would it?
    Triangles Time Trial PrayeR
    well, then why u did not make 100 triangles?
    that's the point.
    no need to make level a repetition of one move.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    yeah, some levels are too big.
    Summer Pack PrayeR
    and the most pathetic thing - creators of levels even dont show how to play them ^^ lolololololololol

    p.s. i dont need that, can all do by myself..
    BOD - Summer Pack nbcl
    PrayeR, You Qi; regarding Newbies, I'm pretty new round these parts and currently hovering at #161. Whilst I understand that it's important for more experienced players to be continually challeneged, I agree with PrayeR that it'd be nice to have some more levels that us who aren't so good could have a good crack at. Obviously practice makes perfect but it would be nice to have some levels that I, and others, stand a good chance of completing from the outset yet still require good skills to achieve the top times.

    Just my two pence though. I still love BoD nontheless
    Aleksey's game on Catapult Back You Qi
    bad luck!
    BOD - Summer Pack Oliver
    this is not Summer Pack, this is Winter,Spring,Summer,Fall Pack. hehe . All levels are very long, kin'a stop your adrenalin rushing. Well don't get back on me by saying play it if you want and don't play it if you don't like....just a comment folks...cheers...
    BOD - Summer Pack PrayeR
    r u gonna play it, Oliver?
    PrayeR's game on WOW PrayeR
    .
    Summer Pack MrD
    The earth won't stop turning... what are you on? It's a game. Oh, and Cave Dweller isn't one of mine but I do like it. There are no really difficult elements in Cave Dweller, but it is difficult to get the whole thing right at once. I think that is the point of the level. As for long levels, there are only 5 that have not been done in less than a minute in the whole pack.
    PrayeR - as you know I made all my submissions public until I realised I was on my own.
    'nuff ranting.
    PrayeR's game on Equisplateral PrayeR
    about 22 sec route :/
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial MrD
    I don't think it quite plays itself. The point of this one was to make you keep going and hopefully not let you catch your breath. There don't seem to be many levels you don't complain about
    BOD - Summer Pack Oliver
    well prayer, maybe after sometime....
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial PrayeR
    MrD
    ok, i will shut up, if this will help you to feel better.

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    Ideas Sz
    Real Newbie Levelpack
    hi!
    i just got a message from   PrayeR who (as we all know ) doesn't praise the new "Summer Pack" and proposes making a new levelpack, which could be played by everyone but is still fun and entertaining. while i doubt that it is possible for a custom pack to gain a similar number of players as the builtin one, such "Newbie Pack" could help introduce new players.
    here are his level proposals:
  •  XA Software LP 2
  •  XA Software LP 2
  •  XA Software LP 2
  •  Spike mountain
  •  XA Software L1
  •  XA Software L5
  •  Shelf
  •  Foothill Half Circle
  •  Double-back Jumps
  •  Flip that flipper...
  •  Spiral
  •  Hillz

    and what is your opinion?
  • Summer Pack Sz
    see also the latest proposal about the  Real Newbie Levelpack
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial MrD
    OK sorry, I didn't mean to get into a slanging match. I feel fine though, no need to worry. Congrats on taking 2nd place from me.
    Obstacalis Muchus Time Trial PrayeR
    MrD, my "complaining" are not for offending someone
    just to help developers of levels - to make levels better and better.
    PrayeR's game on Obstacalis Muchus PrayeR
    about 1 sec faster is possible, but no more. i think
    Real Newbie Levelpack You Qi
    frankly, many of the levels will end up like the "Bottle" level.
    Real Newbie Levelpack PrayeR
    not many, only one or two.
    and it's just conversation, levels can be deleted and added.
    Real Newbie Levelpack nbcl
    You Qi: Do you mean as in that many have mastered it with a good time? These levels appear to have more to them than Bottle, which is very hard to get wrong once you know how to do it.
    PrayeR's game on Castle PrayeR
    closed
    Sz's game on Cave Dweller PrayeR
    tnx SZ
    Cave Dweller Time Trial Sena
    OMFG! I AM 3RD?!?!?!?!?! HOW THE F***?!?!?! I HATE THIS LEVEL BUT AT THE SAME I LOVE IT!! WTF?!?! A 4th MEDAL TIME?!
    Ideas Joey
    Level Pack Names
    There are many different level packs and they're all great. It's kinda annoying though with all the different names before the actual title of the pack: B.O.D., BikeOrDie, BOD, and nothing at all. I think it would be easier to find level packs if the various BOD things are removed and it just was the level pack name. Example: B.O.D.-YouQi Levels would become just YouQi Levels, BikeOrDie - Dieter2 would be simply Dieter2, BOD - Summer Pack would be Summer Pack (without the 'BOD - ') and OrR's Levels could be left alone. Do you get what I'm saying? I hope I didn't repeat myself too much.
    WOW Time Trial You Qi
    I hate this level where the screen suddenly went blank when you riding at the bottoom left corner.
    nbcl's game on Loop 3 nbcl
    No idea how I managed this one.
    Ideas You Qi
    2 new improvements for the coming version.
    1)A new option to close the wifi > keep the wifi on if the wifi is on before the submitting and vice versa.

    2)Make a function in map editor which allow us to set the bike startup facing position.(I found that all bike will only facing right at the beginning)
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    Thank Oliver! sorry PrayeR.
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    it was someone else who has shown this way first.
    my 5 cent.

    btw, u was a bit slow at the end, could be 20.xx game.
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    ah, i got u, u mean reverse ride, yeah, that was Oliver who first did it, i think
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    You really deserve to be called champion , congratulations.
    Level Pack Names Thiago
    i agree! =)

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    Blizzard Time Trial You Qi
    the map is good, but the level design is kinda rough
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    yeah, Now, I defeat Oliver in the level, but definite I can defeat by Oliver quickly finally.
    Level Pack Names Tiger
    That's why I dont put the BOD in front of my level packs... But it makes it a LOT easier to find them when I'm looking for them in file explorer.
    Improving the global ranking calculation nbcl
    I also like Thiago's idea.

    Whatever happens I feel it needs to cater to all players, not just the best - it's not much fun wasting 20 seconds off your best time only to find that you're still out of the top 100 for that level and thus not making any points. You could have lept a few hundred places with a reduction like that but it really is all for nothing.
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    just luck
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus PrayeR
    i knew u gonna play this level!
    Real Newbie Levelpack You Qi
    actually what I mean is that fast game will end up everyone jammed at the same score or maybe 0.02sec difference. and I can say I hate these levels . My suggestion is a minimum of gametime 30sec will be good.
    Tabs's game on Catapult You Qi
    smooth! nice one!
    Levelpack Explorer Snoboarder
    how do u submit a level pack??
    Cave Dweller Time Trial PrayeR
    lol, private games on this level. lololololololololol
    Benoit's game on Equisplateral Benoit
    Time to open up. Poor ending, 2+ seconds better possible using this sequence if you can catch flag without falling.
    Real Newbie Levelpack CD
    I believe that this is a great level pack because it gives oportunity to other players to gain points with levels which players like PrayeR don't like because thay are "too long", wellbad for them, it is better to have varaity and to have new champions and new and unknown player be up on top.
    As You Qi said bottle is really ugly, it is changing champ every day for a point in the championship, what is the purpose of that, we need harder and more complex levels to see how really has the control over the bike.
    Great choise of levels conform the Summer Pack, well done Sz!!
    Equisplateral Time Trial PrayeR
    no SZ, there is one route - straight down.
    and a lot depends on luck.
    Cracked Eggs Sz
    hint: you need easter eggs to beat some of these levels!
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus Tabs
    Fast and Furious PrayeR - the way I
    like it.
    Bunny Slope Tiger
    This is for all the beginners. If you can't beat these levels.... you probly shouldn't be playing
    Powerman's game on Touch Bricks Ando
    I bet theres a place to ge spins on every level. Nohing new here.
    Tester's game on Riding School Ando
    really??? wierd
    MrD's game on Riding School Part 2 Ando
    MrD-how can we vote for a freestyle we can't see?????
    Levelpack Explorer Dieter
    I clicked start then search and searched for the level pack. Then clip it to an email to support

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    Tabs's game on Triangles MrD
    This time could stand for a while. Good run.
    Equisplateral Time Trial MrD
    Looking at your run PrayeR, I'd say there is at least one more route you could try...
    MrD's game on Equisplateral MrD
    If I'd only got the last landing on the back wheel...
    Cave Dweller Time Trial PrayeR
    pathetic
    Equisplateral Time Trial PrayeR
    i talk about "that" run of course. that's 100% already clear from first sight. there is no alternate ways. just fall..
    Equisplateral Time Trial PrayeR
    almost another bottle. no skills needed, just luck.
    Biker's Cafe Dieter
    Tips
    Can anyone give me some tips to help me do better.
    Castle Time Trial PrayeR
    i am tired of that crappy shit. all games are private now.
    Equisplateral Time Trial You Qi
    falling is a skill
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    anyone beating this game is a freak...
    nice one PrayeR.
    PrayeR's game on Big Cheese Oliver
    oki PrayeR its yours...you really are good.
    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    you're right DavidKing, not anymore. well you need to do better than that (just kidding ).
    Tabs's game on Catapult MrD
    I think that is a near perfect run. Nice one.
    Cave Dweller Time Trial MrD
    OK made mine public.
    Grand Canyon Time Trial MrD
    Why private then PrayeR?
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    Come on,take down the gold medal!
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial MrD
    But no one can see your game PrayeR...
    Tabs's game on Triangles MrD
    Err, maybe not then...
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    omg! there is one freak! u, Oliver, so in several days we are waitng for 20.00 from u Oliver
    PrayeR's game on Big Cheese PrayeR
    tnx, then i open it.

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    Grand Canyon Time Trial PrayeR
    there is nothing interesting in my game
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    tssss... silence!
    Tabs's game on Catapult PrayeR
    i always crash at right pipe and because of that i have to break there.

    i dunno guys, how u all dont crash there...
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    well, because if u have opened gold - almost all who will beat u (except Tabs and Oliver) will keep their games private. and 100% that they looked at your game.

    so no more gold and silver medals opened, except several, for Oliver and games where i used somone's game (1 or 2).

    but, all below 2nd place i will keep shared anyway.
    Tabs's game on Triangles PrayeR
    i know 1 thing - if Tabs will want - he will get 1st place back.
    MrD's game on Obstacalis Muchus PrayeR
    that's what i was talking about, MrD
    Cave Dweller Time Trial PrayeR
    i just wanted to say that there are no tricks on this level, and keeping games private is funny.

    personaly i dont need any replays.
    Tabs's game on Catapult DavidKing
    very very good. You are really that a strength is strong and will not be stingy sharing.
    Tabs's game on Catapult Tabs
    My policy is to always share and have
    FUN with BoD.

    But if people want to keep their games
    private then thats OK too.
    Tabs's game on Triangles Tabs
    Getting down the stairs requires
    concentration but isn't too hard.

    I have difficulty with the second
    bit though.

    Someday, someone will tumble down the
    steps and get a stunning time.
    Tabs's game on Triangles monkeydave
    I agree. I was on the ground once in 13 seconds (total lucky fluke). Then I got stuck on the second part. Bummer.
    Tabs's game on Triangles DavidKing
    I appear big mistake finally,otherwise 37.xx possible.
    Castle Time Trial Ruben
    Hey Prayer.I'm interested in your comment about the arrows. If they weren't there, how would you get down?
    Castle Time Trial PrayeR
    i mean that Bike is acting very wild on those arrows.
    just line there would be ok, imho
    Ideas Kristopher
    Many new ideas
    I have several suggestions for the next version of bike or die:
    The obstacle mines should blow up when run into.
    Players should be able to replace the biker's black head with their own; maybe they could draw one.
    Until users can add their own bitmaps into Bike or Design, it should come with some more pictures, including fire hydrants and animals.
    The game should have the option of running as fast as the palm will let it; sometimes the frame rate seems to slow.
    The 'submit best times' part of this web site should accept more than one recording at a time.
    Obstacles should appear on the map.
    The map should include an accurately sized picture of the biker; sometimes it is hard to tell how big the level really is because all you can see are colored dots.
    Players should have the option of viewing levels with default colors (grass ground and blue sky) instead of the level's colors; the colors on 'Touchbricks' were really annoying.
    This game should come with every new Palm, instead of Solitaire.
    Kristopher
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial You Qi
    As how you mention, you are totally ungenerous to share you replays. So what's the point of you sharing? I DON'T WANT to see them, CLOSE it! Don't open your movie and expect a MUST for something good in return and keep insulting everyone doesn't share theirs.
    Benoit's game on Equisplateral You Qi
    wow! nice ride!
    Tabs's game on Catapult You Qi
    yea, I like Tabs!
    Tabs's game on Triangles PrayeR
    u r right monkeydave, happened same thing for me too
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial MrD
    Er, guys, BOD is great but it is a game. My post to PrayeR was only pointing out that his previous post suggested to CD that he could look at his game, but it was private so he couldn't.

    Some chilling out is in order. By the way I never thought this could be done in less than a minute, so congrats to both of you.

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    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial You Qi
    things doesn't go too far if you sharing with your kindly generous heart. OK, nvm, I apologize for my slang of language just now. really very sorry. But think back how many posts you keep mumbling about others didn't share their replays. Remember your post in Loop 2(OrR's Levels) level back in Feb? there's where your post keeping on and on until today.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial Sz
    i have removed some PrayeR's emotional posts at his request.
    to share or not to share - that is the question!
    thank god we only fight here for medals and not for money
    Many new ideas PrayeR
    "The map should include an accurately sized picture of the biker; sometimes it is hard to tell how big the level really is because all you can see are colored dots." - i agree, this would be little but handy feature.

    "This game should come with every new Palm, instead of Solitaire."
    MrD's game on Obstacalis Muchus PrayeR
    MrD, if u will accelerate when u r driving under these 3 mines (at the begin of the level) u can get better time.
    atm u loose some time there.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    MrD,
    CD finished this level now, so his request was completed.

    if u want to see game - u can always write PM to me with email and i can send it to u.
    Tabs's game on Catapult DavidKing
    Yes, Tabs is good boy.
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    as you wish PrayeR...hehe...but no more for this level for me...
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    Work hard...Play hard...Rest easy...
    PrayeR's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    lol, i almost hate u, man
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    Well done. But Play with each of other Levelpack, OK? Oliver.
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral PrayeR
    Tabs is king of "fast levels"
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Tabs
    This level is a lot of luck.
    The only skill required is to try
    and land at the right angle at the
    bottom to hit the flag.
    CD's game on Blizzard CD
    A very luky ride!!!! This will be mine for a while.
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral PrayeR
    yeah, that's what i told.. another "bottle"
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back PrayeR
    doh, i can not fight for gold, playing 10 minutes in week

    i miss my plam...
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    it's fun to play levels with u, Oliver, kinda VS. it's good to have such "rival"
    Levelpack Explorer Gavin!speed
    there are not 57 level packs are there?
    Blizzard Time Trial Tabs
    Its a chalenge
    Triangles Time Trial Lee
    I am trying to work out if it is worth taking a longer run up at the bottom triangles - with all that space available.

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    Equisplateral Time Trial Lee
    I dont know guys - completing "bottle" only takes 10 seconds even for a novice - I recon that a novice would have a nightmare trying to land this controlled fall.
    And going the longer ways around isn't that easy iether - the drop heights are just enough to catch you out.
    Clay Serpent Time Trial MATA
    wow great time oliver
    Blizzard Time Trial PrayeR
    one little advice to the map makers.
    not all play BoD on fast devices.
    so on this level some of the bombs are not needed, so removing them would be kewl for peoples who use slow cpu devices
    Clay Serpent Time Trial Oliver
    thanks MATA, i bet you can beat that if you want.
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    hehe...yeah it's fun...but sometimes it's frustrating especially if you can't finish the level a little faster. But overall it's pretty exciting...
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial monkeydave
    You mean we aren't playing for money??? Wish I would have known that before I quit my job to go pro at BOD!!
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint PrayeR
    well, lets say we are kinda "even" atm.
    so that's kewl
    Dieter's game on Downhill Madness Dieter
    This is my first freestyle I hope you guys like it.
    Freestyle Competition Dieter
    I checked one of my games as a freestyle but I go to my profile and it says I dont have any.
    Freestyle Competition Dieter
    It may say that but I found it. It is on 490; PLEASE VOTE!!!
    Jump or Die Time Trial Lee
    no secrets here - just got to follow the direction arrows and try to keep tidy
    CD's game on Hank Chill CD
    Sorry PrayeR but this level is mine! it is quiet tricky but it can be done a bit faster
    CD's game on Blizzard CD
    Sorry PrayeR but this level is mine! it is quiet tricky but it can be done a bit faster
    CD's game on Blizzard PrayeR
    dream on
    CD's game on Hank Chill PrayeR
    stop this useless flood.
    CD's game on Hank Chill PrayeR
    all times on this levels pack will be beaten several times yet.
    PrayeR's game on Hank Chill PrayeR
    Closed.
    CD's game on Hank Chill CD
    I know, but I will be here!
    CD's game on Hank Chill PrayeR
    well, nobody knows. so far i think that this level is interesting for Tabs, and he is Tank. lol
    CD's game on Hank Chill CD
    I know he is good in this type of level but he is not even in the 20.XXs but I know he will be in top 3 soon.

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    CD's game on Blizzard Tabs
    Only at the very end is it tricky.
    The rest is straight-forward.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    Tabs's game on Blizzard CD
    Tabs congratulations, I knew my medal was not going to last and to tell you the truth I was provocing PrayeR and you to see how the level can be twisted, but I know realize I had quiet a good time.
    John2's game on Riding School Part 2 John2
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon monkeydave
    This shortcut only saves a second or so but is more reliable than going berserk on the second layer.
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon You Qi
    great! thx for sharing. I know it would be works but I'm but I'm lazy to try last time.
    Cave Dweller Time Trial You Qi
    omg! there's plentiful of little tricks there. I'm wondering what only you consider a "trick" as a trick?
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon PrayeR
    monkeydave
    i dont think it will save some time,
    u got good time because u played 3rd floor and 4th floor (from top) very good, not because u use that shortcut.
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon monkeydave
    Prayer - you may be right, it is close either way. I tried noting which way was faster and if I really flew on the second level, they were about the same. However, it is easier to do it this way consistently. I got lucky snagging the flag on the third level and not smashing into the wall!
    You Qi's game on Grand Canyon monkeydave
    Great time considering you were going backwards most of the way!! LOL
    You Qi's game on Grand Canyon You Qi
    lol... I like backward riding.
    John2's game on Riding School Part 2 You Qi
    how you write that italic word?
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon PrayeR
    maybe that's not luck but skills?
    Catapult Time Trial PrayeR
    Aleksey, oni uzhe dostali prosto.. bol'shej naglosti ja eshe ne videl. mudilo rasposlednee eto...
    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon monkeydave
    Ha ha - you are cracking me up now. I play each level so many times, I'm bound to hit a good one now and then. No medals though. :s
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Kristopher
    Interstellar flames is the next game I am buying. The graphics are awesome. The best thing to do is download as many demos as you can to find your favorites. I have over 200 games now, and many have high-res support.
    Hank Chill Time Trial PrayeR
    great...
    Hank Chill Time Trial PrayeR
    such insolence, it's pathetic.
    PrayeR's game on Catapult PrayeR
    closed
    PrayeR's game on Catapult Back PrayeR
    closed

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    monkeydave's game on Grand Canyon PrayeR
    nah, if u had not skils - u would never make such good game u will advance with time - and win medals too
    Smiley Time Trial PrayeR
    Oliver, u should try this one, i think u will like this level.
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
    well, that move in the begin is something, i can not repeat this. gj man
    Aleksey's game on WOW PrayeR
    Lesha, ty probovan kak-to za odin raz vse pereprygnut?
    to chto vnizu sprava. u menja prakticheski poluchaetsja, vot chut-chut ne hvataet. tak by stalo by ochen' bystro.
    MATA's game on Hill PrayeR
    Pazos opened his game several times already,
    there is nothing new - in comparissont to your game, Mata.
    he is just faster at the bottom of the level.
    Equisplateral Time Trial MrD
    Have a look at the original in my level pack in the level explorer. The start point is different and whilst there is really only one basic way down there are different ways to achieve it. Use the link on the first post by Sz. Which do you prefer?
    Sz moved the start point to give different options, but like you say once you have found the fastest route you don't bother with the others.
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back MrD
    Nice run. Hard to see how you can squeeze much more out of this level now.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial MrD
    Yes! I join the sub one minute gang on my own level (and ahead of PrayeR for once )
    Won't be for long though I guess...
    MrD's game on Fear Of The Dark You Qi
    you may get 51-52sec(or maybe lower! ) if you can master well in the beginning.
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back PrayeR
    MrD,
    easy, 38 is possible, Tabs is a bit slow at the begining.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    dunno MrD,
    i am not sure that i will figth back,
    i dont have palm handheld now, and u have no idea when i will have possibility to play BoD (on someone's palm).


    btw, pretty kewl run, feels skills, not just luck like for some others.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    correct

    *** and I have no idea ***
    Equisplateral Time Trial PrayeR
    i prefer your original level, MrD.
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 Oliver
    it's quite easy, the technique is to pause a very short while before you start...this level can be finished a little faster i think.
    Joey's game on Equisplateral Joey
    Am I the only one to finish it this way?
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
    yeah, i tryed ^^ no success though..

    i agree, it can be done a bit faster
    Joey's game on Equisplateral Joey
    Am I the only one to finish it this way?
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 Oliver
    here is it PrayeR, a bit faster but still a little more i think...
    Oliver's game on Cave 2 PrayeR
    hehe,
    Tabs's game on Catapult You Qi
    good ride!

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    Dieter's game on Castle Dieter
    OMG I cant believe I did that. This was totally lucky.
    Newsiew!
    James Steel from plankfilms.com has just published a video review of "Bike or Die!". See it here!
    This site is definitely worth visiting even if you already know "BoD" because of several other Zodiac/Palm game reviews and independent movies!
    Newse or Die" in Spanish
    At last! This translation was started by Alexis Sánchez from tecnopalm.com and finished by   Ricardo. I'm sure the spanish speaking players appreciate their work! Download

    Update: v1.3c on pdassi
    Dieter's game on Castle Powerman
    Please open it!!!!
    Dieter's game on Castle You Qi
    lol... I know the secret!
    Real Newbie Levelpack Aleksey
    I like this level
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=95
    "Bike or Die" in Spanish PrayeR
    SZ
    will be there "1 year of BoD"?

    like u did after 6 months?
    Castle Time Trial Ruben
    Yeah I agree with you but there's nothing to do about it now. Anyway, thanks for your opinion. It's always good to know what other people think about my levels.
    Grand Canyon Time Trial Ruben
    This is a level in which there aren't many different routes you can take to finish it. The other way to do it could be like monkeydave did it but that's about it.
    Blizzard Time Trial Ruben
    Well I just thought that the mines made the level look better.
    WOW Time Trial Ruben
    Yeah that has happened to me too. I tried to fix that once but when I did, then you would just go straight through the floor so I decided to leave it like that.
    Dieter's game on Castle Powerman
    WOW
    Ajax's game on Wheel Insider Ajax
    I'm new at this, so this just looked kid of amazing to me.
    Dieter's game on Castle Dieter
    This my first Gold too. But I think there will someone who beats me.
    Newse or Die" Birthday
    Yes, this game is one year old. Actually it was on 12th July but the usual ranking chart preparation took longer than expected. Click here to see the chart. This time it is really big! (0,5MB)
    Can you trace your Hall of Fame history back to the first day?
    "Bike or Die" in Spanish Sz
    done! ->  "Bike or Die" Birthday
    i'm sorry for the delay, there were some problems with my chart drawing procedure. it takes ages to make the full chart now when the database is so big... i think this piece of code needs reworking before the next anniversary
    Castle Time Trial Aleksey
    BUGZ on this Level
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=29934
    "Bike or Die" Birthday PrayeR
    great, tnx a lot
    "Bike or Die" Birthday PrayeR
    but when it was made? because Aleksey at 12th Juli was 3rd
    as i remember
    Instant Restart Ruben
    This is a great idea because I hate to have the stylus in my hand. The finger idea could work but it would be better if there was a feature that could disable the option.

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    Tabs's game on Blizzard nbcl
    I suddenly feel very inadequate after watching that. Good ride!
    "Bike or Die" Birthday Sz
    thank you for pointing out this inconsistency!
    you're right: the current live ranking and the chart didn't match exactly. the difference was in the "equal times", like the famous  Bottle Time Trial.
  • the history chart always reflects the submission time (the first person achieving a given score wins)
  • the live hall of fame used a random sequence in such cases (and it was changing continuously without a reason)

    so it happened, that Aleksey was accidentaly assigned a good rank in Bottle, which gave him global #3 in the hall of fame, but from the history point of view his rank on the Bottle is #11 which didn't give him #3 on that day.

    i have just made 2 changes to avoid such trouble:

    1.the live hall of fame ranking now uses the same history rule like the chart. players with the same score are ranked according to the submission time.

    2. Bottle Time Trial is excluded from the competition. however, it will be still displayed in the hall of fame and all medals are valid (i.e. they appear in  Medals by Country)
  • Bottle Time Trial Sz
    Note: This level is no longer excluded from the global ranking calculation. See  Scoring method changed
    Ideas Ruben
    Level Editor
    There should be more objects in the level editor. I don't know if there's a way to get more pics right now, but if there is there should be a place where it explains how to get them. ?: If there is a way to get pics, how can I get them?
    Level Editor Dieter
    Custom bitmaps (advanced)
    Unfortunately, the current "Bike or Design" won't help you creating custom bitmaps for your levels. However, you can add bitmaps to the levelpack database, using a resource editor, eg. RsrcEdit. "Bike or Die" uses bitmap IDs 401..431. You can add more bitmaps, starting with some higher number, eg. 450, or replace the builtin ones. Then, use the Picture object and select the picture #50; it will refer to the bitmap 450. (Note that you can choose nonexisting picture in the selector dialog - just enter the proper number in the textfield). The actual picture will not be visible in the editor nor during the test play, it will only appear while using the levelpack in the game. You can temporarily add the bitmaps to the BikeOrDie.prc to overcome this limitation.

    Or, you can wait for the next release, which will support custom bitmaps without that hassle.

    On the home page It has
    Bike or Design v1.1g Read about the level editor
    /
    /
    Click Here
    Cave Dweller Time Trial Lalo
    I didn't finished this level yet, but i can see there's many tricks. Anyway I dont like this level 'cause is very long
    Cave Dweller Time Trial nbcl
    Am seriously astounded at how people are managing to do this level twice as fast as I can, almost. Nuts.

    (Just noticed my name along the scrolling bar at the bottom. So proud )
    monkeydave's game on Jump or Die DavidKing
    Congratulations! You get a silver medal, Come on!
    Oliver's game on Downhill Madness Oliver
    hi CD, if you mean braking, just follow the instruction we put on Dai's comment. It's really kin'a difficult, you just need to practice it until you get it...
    Levelpack Explorer Spazmoid
    how do you submit a level pack
    Grand Canyon Time Trial DavidKing
    There is Level of pleasant sensation very much.
    Aleksey's game on Castle Aleksey
    Opened
    Spazmoid's game on Riding School Spazmoid
    I Went Backwards In 37 Seconds
    Aleksey's game on Castle Aleksey
    nbcl's game on Tricky nbcl
    What confuses me about this one is... why did I fail? I don't actually hit anything.
    Viewing a Saved Recording nbcl
    I had that today, it was excellent... tried to restart and my biker spazzed around on the spot a bit and then wheelied 180, hitting his head on the ground in the process
    Oliver's game on Vanilla Sky PrayeR
    for gods sake, Oliver, will u ever stop play standard levels?
    Oliver's game on Vanilla Sky PrayeR
    i thought u said truth in pm...
    nbcl's game on Tricky PrayeR
    well, there seems to be something with tetures..
    sometimes u crash not when u hit something - but when a too close to something (hope u understand my language)
    nbcl's game on Tricky PrayeR
    in above post shold read - teXtures

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    Aleksey's game on Castle Dieter
    Damnit.................But good run
    Oliver's game on Vanilla Sky Oliver
    hi PrayeR, yeah most of the levels here i really don't want to play. Other levels I still find the passion playing. This will be my last game for this level though. cheers
    Aleksey's game on Castle PrayeR
    Lesha,
    prosto klass. velikolepno!
    Aleksey's game on Castle You Qi
    OMG! What a good run! congratulation aleksey!
    Levelpack Explorer Powerman
    Find an new on: http://www.sitesled.com/members/deacondog/tapwave/ games/bikeordie/kiteeatinglevelpack.html
    monkeydave's game on Jump or Die monkeydave
    Someone has tarnished my silver!! It is kind of bronze-looking!
    Aleksey's game on Castle Aleksey
    Thanks you qi.
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue Oliver
    notice how my two wheels overlap as my bike hit the wall...that's the key.
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue PrayeR
    we did it bit different, check my game.
    it's also fast. but u played the rest of the map perfect
    "Bike or Die" Birthday Lee
    Now I realise that Rachman must be taking a break from the game.
    There is no way that I deserve to be higher rank than him!
    "Bike or Die" Birthday DavidKing
    Rachman! Really an amazing king of BoD!
    He is respectable,the status can't be replaced either.
    DavidKing's game on Vertical Avenue DavidKing
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue PrayeR
    sorry Oliver that i requested your game
    Hank Chill Challenge Justy
    Very good This is a huge levelpack filled with all kinds of great Levels!
    nbcl's game on Tricky nbcl
    That makes sense. Having played with Bike or Design a little bit, it's a bit clearer - it's possible to make small, invisible segments of ground, and I presume that the part where I failed is just a tiny bit longer than it appears.
    Finding Mice Time Trial Lee
    I still have this dream that it must be possible to leap right off the top of hte cave and land on the slope to the right of the "E"
    Summer Pack Lee
    The Red Murder page is behaving odly - can't see the times on clicking it
    MATA's game on Triangles Lee
    so was this a repeat of your freefall skills from "the hill"?
    Sena's game on Fly! Sena
    over 2 months ago, still here, sweet!
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Sena
    bottle does require some level of skill though

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    Cave Dweller Time Trial Thiago
    i like this level... =)
    CD's game on Hank Chill Tabs
    A very penickety level.

    Very hard to beat CD's time.

    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    Made it! - both long jumps on one run!
    Human Insides Time Trial Lee
    Thanks to You Qi for sharing
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    And a bit faster again!
    pumb.org Time Trial monkeydave
    Hey You Qi! Mind sharing YOUR movie?
    Aleksey's game on Cave Dweller Aleksey
    Lee's game on Human Insides Aleksey
    Very nice…
    John2's game on Riding School Part 2 John2
    I didn't write anything, so it just shows the date-which is in italics all the time.
    John2's game on Underground John2
    vote here
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    Want to see?
    Lee's game on Human Insides You Qi
    Wow! Sensational Ride! Great job Lee!
    DavidKing's game on Hank Chill DavidKing
    MATA's game on Triangles MATA
    hahaha.. kind of.. but do you remember what happened to that run??? so cheated!!!
    CD's game on Hank Chill PrayeR
    u could answer on my message to u Tabs
    pumb.org Time Trial You Qi
    here you are!
    nickwalt's game on Downhill Madness nickwalt
    took hours to get just 1 good run. crash millions of times.

    can't believe i'm next to the rachman. will have to try this again.
    nickwalt's game on Downhill Madness You Qi
    what takes you 9months to make a reply?
    Aleksey's game on Smiley You Qi
    heh~ you are good!
    CD's game on Hank Chill Tabs
    What message prayer - I dont understand

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    Blizzard Time Trial Tabs
    Please view movies guys
    Tabs's game on Blizzard You Qi
    ok, viewed. excellent run!
    BOD - MrD's Levels MrD
    Still a few of these levels with no ratings - has nobody finished them? My new level pack is coming soon...
    Roel's game on Underground Camilo
    antes creia en michael jordan ahora you
    Time Trial Champions nbcl
    Just broken the top 50
    Aleksey's game on Smiley Aleksey
    I have a result better this game
    Aleksey's game on Smiley You Qi
    32sec? I found 33sec kinda perfect already.
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint mcarenas
    That's an inspiration dude!!

    Go pinoyz go!!!
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Tabs
    If you spin fast enough you can go
    through the triangles.

    A bug ?

    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Aleksey
    Real bug!
    I think the name of this level "Bottle 2"
    Bad level!!!
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Aleksey
    I think duration of levels there should be 40-60 seconds.

    6-10 seconds, very small levels.
    Not interesting
    Real Newbie Levelpack Ruben
    I think this newbie levelpack is a great idea to create, but I have to agree with You Qi and say that levels this easy shouldn't go on the hall of fame levels since all of the pros would get the same time and make it an even worst "Bottle". These levels are too simple and easy to be in the hall of fame. Eventhought it might be a good idea to make one so the newbies can practice and get better and better.
    DavidKing's game on Equisplateral DavidKing
    lucky level @@
    Not interesting.
    Equisplateral Time Trial Lee
    Ah - Given the brute force method of falling straight through the traingles with a fast spin - I agree, this is a "bottle" level
    Time Trial Champions Dieter
    check out my freestyle
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=28002
    Equisplateral Time Trial Tabs
    There will be a plethora of 7.xx
    time now.All the usually suspects.
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral You Qi
    amazing, Tabs! wondering how you discovered it...
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Tabs
    Just a moment of madness You Qi.
    Sometimes it works with BoD.

    DavidKing's game on Equisplateral DavidKing
    lucky level @@
    Not interesting.
    Equisplateral Time Trial DavidKing
    Every 10 times on average,I can succeed once.

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    Tabs's game on Equisplateral PrayeR
    yeah, i got this too several times, but not submitted coz it's bug :/

    it happens on other levels too, sometimes, but on this it's critical
    Real Newbie Levelpack PrayeR
    those levels WON'T be like the Bottle.

    time will be close but no way it would be like Bottle.
    Equisplateral Time Trial You Qi
    bottle level!
    Equisplateral Time Trial DavidKing
    It is really standard "bottle level", I obtain 07,62 over 10 times @@
    Equisplateral Time Trial You Qi
    can you please type 1 of your 10 replays as my name and submit in?
    You Qi's game on Triangles You Qi
    see my luck!
    Equisplateral Time Trial DavidKing
    You Qi, You can obtain better time certainly, this is not difficult.
    Equisplateral Time Trial Tabs
    You can get sub 7.50 if you think about it.
    Ideas Kristopher
    More New Ideas
    The downloadable .Zip file with the BOD game should contain the Time Trial levelpacks.
    It would be really awesome if Bike or Die could keep Statistics, such as the number of times a certain level was played.
    Tires should pop in the crash seens.
    A Screenshot command for saving Bitmaps of the screen would be handy.
    The text box that appears before you save a game should include a place to edit a comment.
    After a game has finished replaying, a menu could come up with the options 'Delete' and 'Edit Comment'.
    For those of us who still have extra buttons, my suggestions are a 'Toggle Sound' button and a 'Screenshot' button.
    Kristopher Windsor
    Windows based Level Editor Kristopher
    SZ makes Palm Games, not PC software.
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Kristopher
    SZ makes Palm Games, not Nintendo Games. This is especially so because there is already a similiar PC Games, Elastomania. No guy has time to update a fun game this much and produce it on multiple platforms. I'd recommend this game stays on Palm only, because it makes support and programming so much better and easier. Also, if anybody likes this game enough to get into the top 50, they can buy a Palm just for this game. (Palms are better, anyway.)
    Viewing a Saved Recording You Qi
    1.3a is not a stable version. wondering when is the next versoion will be out...
    Biker's Cafe Thiago
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community
    JOIN! =)
    http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=3745307
    DavidKing's game on Equisplateral DavidKing
    bottle level @@
    Lee's game on Equisplateral Lee
    Feel guilty submitting this, when my fastest "bug-free" time was only 15 secs
    Lee's game on Fear Of The Dark Lee
    Yay - under 1 minute club!
    Lee's game on Equisplateral DavidKing
    Needn't feeling like guilty, this one bottle level, in the near future, everybody is nearly all 7, XX
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial Lee
    I have managed 3rd flag at 18.5 seconds, but messed up the stop / turn around at the bottom.

    I recon with a lucky couple of bounces at the start and a really "sticky" stop turn at the bottom, that sub 51 sec is really possible
    Tabs's game on Blizzard Lee
    Oh, really nice bounce through at the end.
    That must have taken a few go's
    Lee's game on Equisplateral Tabs
    I agree.

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    Tabs's game on Equisplateral DavidKing
    You really excellent, very good!
    Tabs's game on Blizzard Tabs
    Yes it did take a few go's Lee.

    Most of this level is straightforward...
    apart from the ending.You need a bit of
    luck.
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral You Qi
    The Tabs' brain can compete with Einstein.
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial You Qi
    wow! 18.5? my 3rd flag in my 53sec game tooks 19.8sec
    Tabs's game on Equisplateral Aleksey
    Very nice!
    More New Ideas Sz
    thanks for the ideas!
    one of them is already present as a hidden feature and described somewhere on this the forum (which reminds me that i need to implement a "find" feature here).

    try writing the word "stats" (using graffiti or keyboard) and press enter (in graffiti it is a diagonal line like this: / downwards)

    see also my post about easter eggs here
    prh1's game on Sinus Mountains prh1
    Whoa dude! You are slammin'
    prh1's game on Sinus Mountains prh1
    Exchellentai!
    prh1's game on Sinus Mountains prh1
    Scrape some sky - bike-god!
    BikeOrDie - Dieter5 Dieter
    Please vote and or comment on the levels
    prh1's game on Sinus Mountains prh1
    You are a sad b*st*rd who talks to himself, geek-boy!
    Smiley Time Trial Benoit
    Nice score Ruben ! Looks like a new route ...
    Smiley Time Trial Ruben
    If you like it you can vote for it. Please.
    Smiley Time Trial Benoit
    Would love to, but you'll need to open it up and submit it to freestyle ...!
    Smiley Time Trial You Qi
    I think i know his route.
    Ruben's game on Smiley Aleksey
    Secret freestyle game
    Ruben's game on Smiley Ruben
    Yeah. There are some freestyle games that are pulic. Mata's game on Hill was Private for quite a while. Besides it is in freestyle because of the time. I'll make it public later on.
    Ruben's game on Smiley Ruben
    A good time. A 7 second lead. Please vote.
    Ruben's game on Smiley Ruben
    I want to enjoy the Gold for a while.
    You Qi's game on Smiley You Qi
    see... just my 2nd try, I did it!

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    You Qi's game on Smiley Ruben
    Nice You Qi. Good Job.
    Aleksey's game on Castle Aleksey
    Levelpack Explorer Dieter
    Please Vote and coment my level Pack
    BikeOrDie - Justy Justy
    Hope you like it this is my first pack so it may not be that good
    Ruben's game on Smiley Javier
    Excelent Ruben. Enjoy your Gold for some time
    Real Newbie Levelpack The Two
    i think we should add spike mountain to an official levelpack
    BikeOrDie - Eric The Two
    i really have 15 levels
    Ideas The Two
    when
    hey sz, when are you coming out with the neww bike or die?
    when Dieter
    hes coming out with a new game not a new BOD
    Tips Kristopher
    Here are my findings based upon experience:
    Do not multitask. You cannot play well while doing other things.
    Try playing in low-res mode.
    Do not frequently go back and forth between levels; stay at a level until you have a new record.
    See how the pros do it. Don't spend hours trying to find your own route.
    Turn the full detail off when necessary. In example, that tree in 'Downhill Madness' is in the way.
    That's all I have so far, but I am still trying to get to the top 30 or so.
    Smiley Time Trial Lee
    I can't see it... I don't think it is possible to make a jump over to iether eye, and I have no other ideas
    Smiley Time Trial You Qi
    it is possible, lee!
    MunkYBoY's game on The Right Way MunkYBoY
    woohoo go me!
    Ideas Ruben
    Invalid Recordings
    I think that it would be cool as well as useful to invent a way to erase a record on the level that you get a time rejected if you´re not able to beat that time that was rejected.
    Smiley Time Trial Lee
    You Qi, you are killing me!
    There is no room to mess about on top of the nose for a decent run-up!
    Can hook my wheel up on the left eye, but no chance of getting over to the flag by any of my skills!
    Real Newbie Levelpack MunkYBoY
    i think you long time players arent understanding, this is mostly for newbie players to be introduced to the competitive aspect as these other level packs can be a pain in the ass for them. I think its a great idea btw.
    devices and controls MunkYBoY
    i use a Zire21 (getting Zire72 once i get the money) and i use all the buttons (a whopping 4) and i tap the screen to turn around
    Smiley Time Trial Ruben
    Tricky
    flip's game on palmstamp.com MunkYBoY
    LMAO that kicks ass
    Smiley Time Trial Tabs
    I don't know if Ruben and You Qi have done
    it the same as my game Lee but give my game
    a try.


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    Smiley Time Trial You Qi
    That's it! nice 1 Tabs!
    Rocket Powerman
    Impossible????????????????????????????????
    Rocket Dieter
    what part do you find to be impossible?
    Big Cheese Time Trial PrayeR
    closed, or again one stupid looser uses my game.
    Ruben's game on Smiley PrayeR
    noone will vote this
    Big Cheese Time Trial You Qi
    sigh... grow up, prayer!
    Aleksey's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    This is amazing! I can't even finish this level!
    Aleksey's game on Smiley Aleksey
    Lee's game on Equisplateral nbcl
    Wouldn't worry about it - I couldn't finish this level before I "bottled" it
    Smiley Time Trial MrD
    The route Tabs (and I presume the other sub 30 second runs) took is the one I originally thought was the fastest route. I designed it so that this was possible but I never managed it all in one run. Cool, well done.
    Look out for my new level pack coming soon.
    Tabs's game on Catapult MrD
    That has to be a near perfect run. Cool.
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus MrD
    Another near perfect run. My levels must suit you. Maybe it's an English thing
    Smiley Time Trial DavidKing
    Tabs is a genius player, if he plays with all Levels conscientiously ,may have an opportunity to get the rank of the first ,he is really amazing.
    nbcl's game on Equisplateral nbcl
    First top ten time
    Triangles Rouch
    I don't find this level bad, this is something new, part of luck and handling skill. And can be done "easily" when you get the trick to get down step by step.
    Tabs's game on Smiley Sena
    Crazy.
    Bálint's game on Midnight Mess Bálint
    I did it!
    Bálint's game on Midnight Mess DavidKing
    Congratulations! You are very Good.
    Tabs's game on Smiley DavidKing
    You are the most excellent, the thing you want, the end is sure to accomplish . .
    You Qi's game on Triangles Tabs
    Well Done.
    This is probably the best way to play this level.
    I've got to the ground as quickly as you but I
    mess up on the second part.


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    Joey's game on Fly! Kristopher
    Just how many days did you spend on this level??
    Satrian's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    This is just how I tried to complete this level! It was too hard for me.
    I have the worst statistics ever for this level: I have played it over 1600 times, and have only completed it once.
    You Qi's game on Triangles You Qi
    how you know how fast it tooks me to touch the ground?
    Oliver's game on Hellraider Lee
    This is a nuts time - any chance we could get a look?
    Tips The Two
    and also you can get a cool freestyle so you can get a medal below your name
    XA Software LP 2 Tabs
    I got 7.62
    Bálint's game on Cave Dweller Bálint
    Finally I did it!
    Real Newbie Levelpack Tabs
    The 2nd game on that list is a 'Bottle' level.
    Real Newbie Levelpack MunkYBoY
    hmm, probably. the problem with the bottle level tho is that there was only one route
    Roel's game on Underground The Two
    but he was the first to do it which makes him the best
    Lee's game on Sawtooth Lee
    Not to quick a run, but a smooth ending
    Bálint's game on Touch Bricks Bálint
    Almost under 30 s club
    Biker's Cafe You Qi
    I miss rachman! :(
    anyone here same as me? I lost my spirit on playing BoD without him.
    I miss rachman! :( DavidKing
    Though my present world ranking in the second, I think this is a huge joke, if rachman! Or if Oliver continues being played, I have not chance at all.
    Ideas Jordan
    Proxy support?
    I would really, really like proxy support in the client itself so I could upload from my treo. All web traffic on my treo has to use a web proxy (getmorespeed.t-mobile.com:8080) -- heck, it's easy enough to hack on a hard-coded version just by recompiling and changinge whatever connect calls are made to open directly to that domain name instead of actually resolving bike.toyspring.com, but then send the rest of the request the exact same way).

    Anyway, I'd really like to be able to upload from my Treo. Thanks.
    Real Newbie Levelpack MunkYBoY
    XA Software L1 i think is more of a bottle level
    Real Newbie Levelpack MunkYBoY
    errrr....i think you should add a few more levels
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Kristopher
    I do not see either an impossible game or an origional game. Did you notice this player has not even entered the Time Trial competition?
    I miss rachman! :( Tiger
    I want more updates.... Although I don't know what needs to be updated
    But I do want Rachman back myself...
    nbcl's game on Equisplateral Tabs
    Well done on 1st top 10 time.

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    2nd best game on palm after BoD? GPolice
    I play a lot of Warring Kingdoms and zQuake
    .Gogeta§§J4BR. GPolice
    No Way is interesting
    I miss rachman! :( Lee
    Me too... You always new that a totally weird way to finish a level would come from a new Rachman medal submission
    Tabs's game on Blizzard Lee
    The thing is... to get the ending that you manage - you have to take off from the left wall just right to get the fist bounce in the bottom left just right - lots of things to get "just right"
    Aleksey's game on Zip-Zap Lee
    i WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS RUN!
    I miss rachman! :( You Qi
    lol, yea! he's the god of BoD. comming with dozens of innovative runs!
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint SooHyunKim
    Far out. Its cool dude.
    Report a bug SooHyunKim
    Editing Profile photo
    Hi. I've tried to edit my profile photo, but it doesnt seem to work. Well, I can successfully delete current image, but when I upload my new images then refresh, the old images comes out instead of the new one. I will try again but could you please check this error in the mean time?
    Report a bug SooHyunKim
    Profile Picture Size
    Sz. Could you please tell me the exact profile picture size (in pixel) so I can edit a picture in the photoshop?
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way benstraw
    this deserves to be the champion freestyle ride.
    Gustavo's game on Riding School Part 2 Gustavo
    Its not a good one...
    flip's game on palmstamp.com Filip
    Good! How did u find it?
    Aleksey's game on Zip-Zap Aleksey
    Lee, see Priv. message
    Aleksey's game on Zip-Zap You Qi
    i want a private message too!
    Aleksey's game on Zip-Zap Lee
    NO WAY - really? that is mental, but I see the possibility now. Cheers Al
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Jaimico
    There's something here that anybody have seen... Pure talent in rachman hands!!! An aplause 4 the madness master... he deserves ti!!! lol... kepp it going like that fellow!
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Jaimico
    It's fantastic!!! lol this guy has a real concept of freestyle competition... don't quit tryin' new routines...
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness Jaimico
    There's no way you can do something like... yeeeeaaaahhhh dude you did it... that's really outrageous!!! hehehehehe
    Biker's Cafe Jaimico
    Jaimico
    I need some help... I downloaded bike or die from mytreo.net, but it was a demo... Can anybody of you tell me how can I do to register my bike or die in order to unlock the whole basic levels...??
    I just bought my treo 650, and i wanna have that game completely active and download the other level packs.... please write me to jaimeparrjr@hotmail.com... Please i became a bike or die addict!!!1 heheheheheh...
    Biker's Cafe Jaimico
    Jaimico
    if you understand that i'm addicted to bike or die, don't forget i need some help here... I began playing this game like 2 months ago, and now i think there's no better for pda... hehehehehehe HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!
    I'm new in this and i wanna do my best like you guys, so give a hand in these.... i'll let you know how thankful i'll be... hehehehe

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    Jaimico's game on Double Sprint Jaimico
    what about my beginner's luck??? hehehehe
    Jaimico Dieter
    dude you have to buy it and youll get a reg code in the e-mail
    BOD - MrD Returns Dieter
    wow awesome levels but some of them are really hard
    Jaimico You Qi
    this guy is funny.
    Biker's Cafe RFKennedy45
    Level Packs
    Hey all. I'm sitting on 2 level packs that i've made totalling 50 levels, but i cant figure out how to submit them. Any help would be great or if anyone emails me i'm happy to send them to you.

    Cheers
    Jaimico's game on Riding School Jaimico
    Well fellows, I'm a lucky rookie!!! hehehe!! I need your opinion about this, please make it short, quickly and harmless... hehehehe (sounds like a bitch) hehehehe!!!
    Oliver's game on Hellraider Oliver
    Hi Lee, sure, i will open it for you and for everyone...bye bye to my gold medal then...hehe...
    I miss rachman! :( Oliver
    Rachman is one of the best if not the only one...he can really rock this game....
    You Qi's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
    nice one dude...
    DavidKing's game on Teapot DavidKing
    passing down the mine? look! It is very easy.
    You Qi's game on Pipe Universe You Qi
    hehehe.. thx! finally I got my goal back after 8months. (let me enjoy awhile 1st. )
    Level Packs Dieter
    ok you have to go to my computer then go to local disk(C, then go to program files, then go to PalmOne (Yours might be different, just look for a folder relating to your handheld), then go to a folder that has your hotsync name or a small part of it, then go to backup the levels should be somewhere in there.
    Level Packs RFKennedy45
    THanks Dieter but i know how to get the actual files for the levels i just dont know how to upload them to the site for everyone to play them
    Level Packs Dieter
    oooooooh all you have to do is send an e-mail support@toyspring.com with a link
    Level Packs RFKennedy45
    cool will do thanks bro
    Multiplayer Seppel
    Multiplayer would really be extremely cool!
    BTW: That's also a good way to sell more licenses

    Beside showing the opponent bike you also should insert an option to only get a kind of "time penalty" when crashing (instead of level restart).

    Greetz, Seppel
    Multiplayer Seppel
    PS: is multiplayer on your ToDo-list?
    BikeOrDie - Dieter5 IZodiac
    I'm downloading this level pack right now. I played Dieter1 and Dieter3. You and someone else (lol, I forgot) make the absolute BEST lvl's BESIDES mine Someone tell me how to get lvl's added here!
    DavidKing's game on Blizzard DavidKing
    Tabs, I reach wall of on the left, spend more 1 second than usual, so 25.2X is possible, you can unquestionably accomplish it, Come on!
    BikeOrDie - Dieter5 Dieter
    go here http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=3980

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    Tabs's game on Blizzard DavidKing
    Well Done, Tabs, but can also be a bit better, open my Replay.
    Dylan's game on Riding School Dylan
    This took me a while.
    RFKennedy45's game on Oil Drop RFKennedy45
    DONT HIT THE MINE!!!
    BOD - MrD Returns Benjamin
    mann some of these look impossible
    Biker's Cafe MacGuru
    Easter Eggs?
    I am brand new to this game, love it! I keep seeing things about "you need Easter Eggs"... where do I find this?
    Real Newbie Levelpack OrR
    How about simple to complete but long levels? I don't know any but it should not be too difficult to make some. Leave out parts where you just press a button for half a minute and you get a great level.
    Oliver's game on Floors MacGuru
    How do you people get so much spring? When my back wheel goes that far in I blow up.
    Oliver's game on Floors You Qi
    that's why you need to calibrate the maximum force to not got the bike crashes.
    Jaimico's game on Vertical Avenue Jaimico
    who can explain how the physics works here!?!?!?! That was odd is the only thing i can say!!! hehehehehe!!!
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Gustavo
    Wow! cool ending! got my vote
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness Gustavo
    Thats just luck, but its still cool, got my vote
    ahk057's game on Loop 2 Gustavo
    Please take this record off
    Oliver's game on Floors Lee
    It's nothing to do with wheels moving - you can even penetrate a surface with your wheels without crashing.
    The trick is to realise that it is all about body position - the body has to strike a free surface to cause a crash.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Full course routine
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    see my not luck!
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    I reach the ground this time, has spend 16 seconds, usually I only spend 13-15 seconds, so 28.XX It will be perfect time .
    Just now, I nearly finish in 29.XX, but careless crash on the wall on the right >< .
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    Opened! 30.XX Route, It's very easy, 28.XX is possible.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    Tabs, I think that you can unquestionably finish in 28.XX, Come on!
    DavidKing's game on Triangles Sena
    he could easily...
    Equisplateral Time Trial Sena
    oh shame i noticed i'm last on this one... time to improve...

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    Triangles Time Trial Sena
    shame i suck here too!
    Triangles Time Trial DavidKing
    No, Sena, you can progress certainly, believe me, see more Reply!
    DavidKing's game on Shark! DavidKing
    Multiplayer GPolice
    IR Multiplayer would be cool because... I have more PalmOS devices without BT than with
    devices and controls GPolice
    5-Way Nav Up/Down = Accel/Brake
    5-Way Nav Left/Right = Balance
    Whatever Button is all the way on the right = Turn around
    devices and controls DavidKing
    I use my loved TT3, if I not play with BoD, it helps me to take down a lot of medals, I still like it.
    Standard Levels Smalls
    I finally made the top ten! Thanks to all who's recordings helped me get here.
    BOD - MrD Returns MrD
    Some of them are quite challengin, but I guarantee they are all possible. Hopefully if nothing else they are interesting
    Standard Levels nbcl
    Congratulations Smalls! Always good to beat a personal milestone
    lid top's game on Sawtooth Kristopher
    This game is very sad! He couldn't even get three flags!
    nbcl's game on Red Murder nbcl
    Watch out Lee, I'm comin' for you...
    nbcl's game on Red Murder nbcl
    Slightly alternative route... there's a few seconds to be shaved off here, just requires time and space to suddenly come together once in a while

    Enjoying this level, have shaved almost 30 seconds off my time in the last few days.
    devices and controls nbcl
    Tapwave Zodiac:

    Top Left Trigger: Brake
    Top Right Trigger: Accelerate
    Blue (top button): Change Direction
    Red (left button) and Yellow (right button): Balance
    Green (bottom button): Pause/Map
    Easter Eggs? Kristopher
    The Easter Eggs are discussed somewhere in the forum, but you can also read about them at:
    http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/bike/eggs.html
    These are the easiest to enter through the graffiti, and I am not sure how to do them on a hi-res+ Palm.
    Jaimico Kristopher
    What do you need help with? Watch a replay to see how it's done, and remember people such as myself have played 40,000 times and still aren't winning.
    TouchBricks Kristopher
    It's better than Tetris, but my launcher (WinLauncher) gets confused because the hi-res skin is also a PRC file, so I can't move this game from the unfiled category.
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied Kristopher
    I like the way Bike or Die looks now. The intro makes this a classic, and the simple lines make this a timeless game. That is unlike Elastomania, which looks like it is ten years old.
    IZodiac's game on Underground IZodiac
    Yeah I did it.
    rachman!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity The Veenk
    wow nice work
    nbcl's game on Red Murder nbcl
    Hooray! Told you

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    nbcl's game on Red Murder nbcl
    First non-fluke top 10 time Annoyingly there's a load of bits that could be improved (such as the return over the trapezium and the hillclimb) but I beat Lee like I said I would so I'll lay this one to rest for a short while!
    nbcl's game on Red Murder Lee
    I'm flattered - I never thought of myself as a benchmark before!
    Good work though - I just can't get quick doing it this way - I keep thinking there must be some magical way to jump over the three mines!
    IZodiac's game on Underground Lee
    ah, it is a great feeling isn't it!
    Pretty soon though, you will be trying to string together all of the "impossible" moves....
    This is the joy of Bike or die... there never seems to be an end to how far you can go with it!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Full course routine
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Is this the record for the full course routine?
    The Veenk's game on Underground Vega
    Does anyone know what the record time for the full course is? I have 27:20.
    nbcl's game on Red Murder nbcl
    Don't be so down on yourself, you're a good player!

    I think there is a way of jumping over the mines, much like Underground - it probably involves a pretty sweet bounce following the hill, I certainly can't see any other way to take four seconds off this time.

    That said, surely jumping over the mines would take more than four seconds off... Puzzling.

    Anyway. Now to find something else to beat you at. It'll be a while, don't worry
    Profile Picture Size Kristopher
    You can pick the image resolution you want, but your picture has to be less than 30K. If you have a thumbnail size GIF or PNG, the memory size shouldn't be a problem, but if it is a JPG like mine, then you will need to have it really low-res and set compression quality very low.
    Editing Profile photo Kristopher
    That is not a problem. It should work fine as long as you click "save" to save your changes.
    Viewing a Saved Recording Kristopher
    This happens every time, but it should be easy to fix.
    "Invalid Recording File" Kristopher
    Maybe some other program deleted your recordings.
    You can always try submitting your recordings one at a time through this website.
    Time Problems (T3) Kristopher
    The game might be going in fast motion, but you can get used to it eventually. If you have faster reflexes, then it won't be a problem.
    Battery on T3 Kristopher
    This game is so fun you don't realize how long you have been playing. If you look up a dozen contacts throughout the day, all together it only takes five minutes, but if you sit down with this thing you sort of wish you had a better battery. Sometimes the battery dies at school before lunch time, and then I don't have a dictionary.
    Pesky T3 controls bug! Kristopher
    On my Zire 72s, I use the default 5-way navigator controls for the bike, and I use the top left button for the map.
    One major thing though: I play with two thumbs, which is way better than playing single-handedly.
    You Qi's game on Up stairs Mishka
    damn, I cant beat this level for a whole month now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    im gonna get you carlo
    Similar Game To BikeOrDie - Gravity Defied MacGuru
    I used to play endless hours of Dirt Bike on my Performa 630CD back a LONG time ago.
    Up stairs Time Trial Mishka
    TOP 10 YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    I think I should receive "ROOKIE of the YEAR" award
    You Qi's game on Up stairs Kristopher
    This level isn't that hard. I can get up the stairs most of the time, and I can make it back about 10% of the time.

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    devices and controls Kristopher
    I use my PalmOne Zire 72s with the default bike controls, which controls the bike with the five-way navigator, and I use the two left buttons to see the map and pause the game.
    when Kristopher
    ... Although there are rumors of version 2.0.
    Summer Pack Kristopher
    This level pack is not easy at all. I couldn't play Fear of the Dark much because they color scheme is impossible to look at in sunlight. My favorite levels were those of Master KO. I would like some more levels like those on the new level pack, but this new level of complexity is a nice change.
    Clay Serpent Time Trial Kristopher
    What a great level! It's probably the easiest level that makes you go upsidedown.
    You Qi's game on Up stairs Mishka
    I did it TOP 10
    nbcl's game on Oil Drop nbcl
    This is what being stuck in traffic does to you.
    PayPal Kristopher
    If you purchase the game through Handango, you can see the registeration code on screen and register immediately.
    PrayeR's game on Cave 2 Kristopher
    Yes, I also play at least 10 hours a week.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Actually, all of us are rookies of this year, or of last year.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    I going for a new record:
    41,557 games played.
    1599 games completed.
    35658 games failed.
    Of course, I have failed more than you all, also.
    Oliver's game on Riding School Kristopher
    The new version is optimized for ARM processors, so it may be smoother, or it might be running at a different speed.
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus sidw2004
    you are a master of bike oro die
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    yeah i know i was just really happy because I finished some levels that i couldnt finish for awhile
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    My first level pack, the Crazy Files, will be finished soon. It will contain 50 top quality levels, some of which took over three hours to perfect. The levels will be of all sizes, lengths, styles, and difficulties. If you want any of these levels in the Time Trial competition was they are available, please say so.
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    at last icomplited all levels now it is time for tring harder to get medals!!!!!!
    nbcl's game on Oil Drop Lee
    Fun exploration on this level
    Nik's game on Konecnik Mishka
    nice
    Big Cheese Time Trial PrayeR
    leecher teach me how to live? lol
    Ideas PrayeR
    ppc :)
    hi SZ,
    any news about ppc version? or You won't port BoD on ppc?
    Equisplateral Time Trial PrayeR
    this level shoud be judged like @The Bottle@
    it should be removed from online competition.


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    Real Newbie Levelpack PrayeR
    yep, u got my idea right
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    i am gonna cry...
    Real Newbie Levelpack PrayeR
    simple level pack that is denied to play by first top 50 (like example) so newbies can fight for medals already at the begin of their BoD life.
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    btw, Oliver, how are u?
    Nik's game on Konecnik PrayeR
    congratulations Nik!
    Bálint's game on Cave Dweller PrayeR
    u have a lot of patience
    Nik's game on Konecnik DavidKing
    very nice.
    Nik's game on Konecnik PrayeR
    btw, Nik, about 21sec is possible
    Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    I've played this level over 800 times, but I'm still not even close!
    nbcl's game on Oil Drop nbcl
    *psst*... don't tell anybody, but it was actually a huge string of mistakes that somehow didn't make me fail
    Castle Time Trial Mishka
    PrayeR òû ñëåäóøèé!!!!
    Castle Time Trial Mishka
    I mean YOU are next
    Levelpack Explorer MacGuru
    I simply cannot get the eggs to work... the only two I have done are T and Stats. Australia or the others don't seem to click in. Any suggestions? Tungsten E.
    Levelpack Explorer RFKennedy45
    Hey All Check out my first 50 lvls in 2 level packs!! Please comment and rate them. Cheers all
    BoD- Bac's Levels Ruben
    Small Levels
    Shifting Lane Ruben
    My best time is 15,42
    Cross Ruben
    My best time is 29,02
    Forget it Ruben
    My best time is 29,02
    XR50 Ruben
    My best time is 19,44
    Spoony Ruben
    My best time is 33,58

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    Ruben Ruben
    My best time is 12,20
    Closure Ruben
    My best time is 20,08
    Parachute Ruben
    My best time is 16,00
    Flyer Ruben
    My best time is 17,74
    Puzzle Ruben
    My best time is 14,40
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe RFKennedy45
    Excellent Bro you get my 3 votes. Very Nice run and not just the ending. Well Done!
    Nik's game on Konecnik Nik
    thanks. i could get 22sec bub 21..... maby
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    ok. I m going to washington DC and gonna have 14hour flight. Im bringing 2 batteries for my treo. Hope Im not gonna get tired from playing for so long. Later......
    Pazos's game on KL City Centre Mishka
    hahahaha ya prosto kliknyl a tyt tu s svoim comment!!!
    You Qi's game on Jurassic Parking Kristopher
    I keep hitting the flip button while I try to balance.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Schneider
    Wow thats Amazing!
    Roel's game on Underground Benjamin
    mnan i haved tried so many times to do that. congrats!
    Levelpack Explorer Benjamin
    so what's the deal on levels packs that overwrite my levels when i download them. is it becuase the maker didn't rename the file in the lvl editor or what ?
    ppc :) Kristopher
    Palm OS will pretty much cease to exist when Palm's contract with Palm Source expires in 2009. I like Palms, but PPC are overtaking them and have really nice VGA screens.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    MacGuru, make sure your graffiti works the way you think it does in a text editor, and make sure you spell the eggs correctly.
    Benjamin, try re-naming your level pack before installing others.
    ppc :) PrayeR
    who knows?
    after announcing treo on Win mobile all can happens.
    btw, palmsource was bought by japans (Access)
    probably they will push palmOS to new level?

    as for me i think 5.x is ok and good, but i bought ppc, because palm (palm1) makes terrible hardware.
    "Invalid Recording File" RFKennedy45
    I have had this problem a few times in the past week also. Is there something that i'm doing that is causing the recordings to become invalid?
    Real Newbie Levelpack RFKennedy45
    I like the idea of more and more level packs being eligible for the HOF and i think it is a little intimidating to new players who see such fast times and know that they cannot compete for the HOF, at least not right away. The trouble with a pack for only those players outside the top 50 is that once they get some medals and get really good at that level pack they will reach the top 50 and then lose all their "newbie pack" level points which will in turn drop them back out of the top 50. Perhaps it is better to limit the "newbie pack" to a time frame rather than a rannking. For instance times submitted will only remain for 3 months and then be removed from the table so the level pack is always giving only the newest players a chance.
    Real Newbie Levelpack RFKennedy45
    Sorry to double post but I have another point lol. If the "newbie pack" is intended to attract new players and also be of a relatively easy difficulty level I would put like 25 levels in it rather than just 10. Then players will learn to hone their skills on a wider range of level types and sizes and also give more and more players a shot and more medals. Cheers all

    Ps Check Out RFK 1 & 2 -- please rate them and lemme know how you guys like them!
    Tabs's game on Grand Canyon Lee
    MATE! sweet take-off for the second lowest platform!

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    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial Lee
    I recon I hit the third flag in under 18 seconds on this run, but messed up the hop off the wall for the top right flag.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=33728
    Lee's game on Fear Of The Dark Lee
    Fast start, bad turn and a failed leap, but first bit was as good as I can get it
    DavidKing's game on Purple Palace DavidKing
    Fear Of The Dark Time Trial PrayeR
    Lee, about 16 sec for 3rd flag is not the problem.
    but with different begining than yours.

    if SZ will make ppc version i could demonstrate this
    Lee's game on Fear Of The Dark PrayeR
    much faster is possible
    Nik's game on Konecnik PrayeR
    go go go Nik
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    because of todays system of Hall of Fame, if u stop playing (Like Rachman!) u will soon will loose position.

    my proposal is following
    make additional place in Hall of Fame to list champions who went away. and who were able to be first like example more that 1 time.

    so at the moment this table would be
    Rachman!
    You Qi

    later i will join this team

    some day DavidKing will be there.

    so, some kind of "All Stars Hall of Fame"
    also it's possible to add how long person was first (in days)

    therefore memory will be on the paper too.

    ok, such great players like Oliver were never first because he does not play all levels.
    but such players can be added to such list because they had (like example) more that 10 gold medals.

    what u think?
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    correction
    not more that 1 time but more than 1 month.
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    and 10 gold medals more that 1 month
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    so list woould be like

    rachman! 224 days champion
    You Qi 49 days champion

    Oliver
    Tabs
    Aleksey (i think he had 10 gold medals too)
    Balint (?) i am not sure if he had 10 gold medals
    Mata (?) he had?
    DavidKing(?) had?

    peoples who had more that 10 gold medals got into this All-stars list with status some kind of Gold Hunter or Gold Master. peoples who had more that 10 golds but became champions move into champions section (ot they can stay in this list too)

    and like example who had more than 20 medals (like Oliver) will get status 2 times Gold Master
    or Gold Archimaster, something like that

    what u guys, and SZ think about this idea?
    imo, it would be great to implement my suggestion.
    Instant Restart Kristopher
    I don't want the level to instantly restart, just as a precaution for those who are holding the brake down as they crash. If it wasn't for the two second crash scene, doing so would restart the level without giving time for me to save my last game. On my Zire 72s, the menu button is in the grafitti area, so finger prints are not a problem, and it is within easy reach of my thumb, so I can choose 'Restart' from the menu. But if there was support for an instant restart hard key, it would be nice to set it to a button like 'voice memo' that won't be pressed accidentally.
    PrayeR's game on Wheel Insider Smalls
    Nicely done! Shows why you're number 1.
    Smalls's game on Downhill Madness Smalls
    The back tire at the end is pretty cool, it's fun to do.
    PrayeR's game on Wheel Insider PrayeR
    tnx.
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint jktn.com
    great player
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent jktn.com
    great run and i love your run to final
    "Invalid Recording File" PrayeR
    MANUALLY upload this recordings again. it will go without the problems second time.
    PrayeR's game on Pipe Universe PrayeR
    your turn, Oliver
    PrayeR's game on Pipe Universe PrayeR
    i lost about 2 sec at the end...
    PrayeR's game on WOW PrayeR
    4-5 sec. faster is defenetly possible :/

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    PrayeR's game on Jump Over PrayeR
    rachman!'s game on Malysz jktn.com
    wonderful man...
    Oliver's game on Floors jktn.com
    I love the final pass thru
    Lee's game on Human Insides Tabs
    Superb stuff Lee - I find this level difficult
    but I'll try harder now
    I miss rachman! :( PrayeR
    well, if nobody wants, oki.
    all miss rachman! but nobody find this idea gut.

    posredstvennosti...
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Adding Custom Pictures to My Levels
    How did that picture of earth get in Master KO's Levels? I have figured out how to convert JPEGs to BMPs on my PC, convert them to PRCs through Teal Paint, and Copy/Paste them into a level pack through RsrcEdit, but they are low res only! In the TBMP resources, the 1 bit picture is used for grayscale Palms, the 8 bit picture is used for low res color Palms, and the 16 bit picture is used for hires. But RsrcEdit does NOT let you edit the 16 bit pictures! So how do I edit them? Also, I can only make rectangular bitmaps, so there is white space at the edges of my pictures! PLEASE HELP!!!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Is this the record for the full course routine?
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    Yes, I would assume so unless the champions tried this a lot before they found the other method.
    Have you registered? You only submitted times for the first five levels, and they are very good.
    Vega's game on Underground Lee
    Nice few moves there - for sure.
    Lets hope we get to see some more of the other levels from you!
    I miss rachman! :( Lee
    I think I understand what you are saying, and I think it is a good idea - just a bit of a fiddly thing for Szymon to have to put together.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Is this the record for the full course routine? Can anyone produce a faster time going all the way around?
    The Veenk's game on Underground Vega
    Now 26:50.
    Lee's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Lee
    Finally got my 16 second run!
    DavidKing's game on U Jump DavidKing
    I think 20.5X is possible.
    DavidKing's game on U Jump DavidKing
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible Bálint
    WOW! 13.x s!
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible PrayeR
    and what the f*** is sence of such comments?
    we dont see this game anyway.

    Report a bug marcusbsouza
    I can't upload my records
    My uploads don't affect the site, just the first basic level.
    Can anyone help me?
    I can't upload my records marcusbsouza
    I have the levels 1, 2, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 already on the server. I receive the response "Your recording was rejected by the server (already exists)" for all that levels.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    That's hilarious. I kept beating my score and re-submitting with the same comment. Since I'm still a rookie to this website, I had no idea anyone had responded to my message. I think I'm done with this course unless someone comes along and beats 26:50. I did the shortcut too but I like this route better. And yes I will soon submit some scores for the other courses when I register and buy the game. I just downloaded the trial version about 2 weeks ago. Anyway thanks.

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    Konecnik Down Time Trial Kristopher
    He he he. I number 6!! This is my favorite level.
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    If you can do that in two weeks you will definitely be among the Time Trial champions. It is somewhat hard to join in late on the competition, but you should make it soon enough.
    I started in June 2005.
    Master KO's Levels Kristopher
    Best styled levels ever!
    PrayeR's game on WOW vmax
    robe da matti!!!
    PrayeR's game on WOW PrayeR
    Si, Si
    LeoCuellar's game on Wheel Insider DavidKing
    Well done! It seems that a player with strong strength appears again.
    Schneider's game on The Right Way Schneider
    I thought I lost it many times (dont Laugh) the end is good though.
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    The best levels are 15 to 25 seconds long.
    DavidKing's game on Wheel Insider DavidKing
    Thank LeoCuellar.
    Levelpack Explorer Mendy
    How do I submit a levelpack?
    DavidKing's game on Wheel Insider LeoCuellar
    Nice! you got the idea!
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Mendy, read previous posts!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Like my new Picture? Look how hi-res it is in full screen.
    Wheel Insider Time Trial DavidKing
    Salute to LeoCuellar, because if he hides this game, he may hold for over one year of gold medal, and nobody can defeat him, so no matter who gets the gold medal later on, LeoCuellar is worth praising.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles Tabs
    Thats an exellent run David.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    Thank Tabs, but you are the strongest player, you can surmount me certainly.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles PrayeR
    with braking at the end of way down and at the same time pushing bike to the right u can fly direct to the triangles that go upstairs and land on the back wheel, then this level can be finished in 22 sec. something like Mata's game (style)

    it's pretty easy, just try and u will do it.
    DavidKing's game on Triangles PrayeR
    forgot, it's possible because i was able to do that,
    so just try.
    Wheel Insider Time Trial PrayeR
    ermmm, nobdy saw You Qi's game?
    he has also fast start but he did not so good at the end, otherwise he had also about 12.30

    and i dunno why he did not improoved his time, probobly forgot or stoped playing standard levels.

    so how to do this level in about 12.30 was already well known (for those who saw You Qi's game). dunno why u r so exciting.
    Wheel Insider Time Trial DavidKing
    Prayer, I think that the beginning of LeoCuellar is faster, I have already obtained it over 10 times of 12.2X, certainly, You Qi's beginning be good too.

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    DavidKing's game on Triangles DavidKing
    Prayer, thanks you for your suggestions, but I do not want to play with this Level temporarily at present, perhaps I try again later.
    Tabs's game on Purple Palace DavidKing
    Tabs, your ending is a little lucky, open my Reply. 32.XX is possible to be even faster.
    Tabs's game on Purple Palace Tabs
    The ending was on purpose David and took a while to
    make perfect.The idea is not to brake as you go for
    the flag.
    Tabs's game on Purple Palace DavidKing
    "not to brake as you go for the flag", yes, I discover this is a perfect ending, Well done.
    RFK : I MrD
    I have played all these levels, and whilst I enjoyed playing them I can't help wondering who rated every single one of them as 5 stars. Some are quite challenging but many are really quite easy, and equally some are quite interesting but not all of them.
    Hmmm.
    BOD - MrD Returns MrD
    Anyone finished this pack yet?
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Kristopher
    I am well on my way to getting my first gold medal! I can't wait!
    BOD - MrD Returns Kristopher
    I am trying...
    Konecnik Down Time Trial PrayeR
    and i can't wait to get it back...
    DavidKing's game on Touch Bricks DavidKing
    Thank Lee for sharing.
    Bálint's game on Touch Bricks Bálint
    Under 30s club
    AVD's game on Wheel Insider AVD
    me so cool
    Andrew Ladd's game on Sawtooth Andrew Ladd
    yahoo im ranked
    AVD's game on Sawtooth AVD
    im so cool
    The Veenk's game on Underground AVD
    un-freakin-believable !!!!!1
    DavidKing's game on Wheel Insider AVD
    nice job but you have way too much free time
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue AVD
    cool but dude you have alot of free time to be practicin that
    Oliver's game on The Well AVD
    that is not human
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue PrayeR
    lol, u hear Oliver? u should practice more
    AVD's game on Golden Gate AVD
    yoyoyo

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    AVD's game on Golden Gate AVD
    i rocks
    Oliver's game on Floors AVD
    i agree with jknt.com that is awesome
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent AVD
    crazy good!!
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent AVD
    Oliver, what do you do for a livein, cuz i mean amn your good. How do you get the time???
    rachman!'s game on Malysz AVD
    very cool indeed...
    Oliver's game on The Right Way AVD
    NO FAir man, just no fair
    ppc :) Sz
    yes, i'm going to make the ppc version if only to test that platform (i mean, from the developer perspective). who knows, i might even like it
    for now i'm happy with the simplicity of the palm os and i can stay here for very long, but it depends on the market.
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way AVD
    reel cool
    AVD's game on Pipe Universe AVD
    flipy flip flip!!
    ppc :) Lee
    Nice to read some positive developer comments after this weeks discussions from people like the TITALY developers complaining that the Palm OS is just too varied from device to device, with little help to the devlopers from Palm.
    I just dont do enough multimedia stuff or even office stuff to justify a move to PPC yet, but from a business perspective, I think Kris is right.... the Palm OS may well be living on borrowed time.
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth Lee
    I am the same - I get more and more excited as I nail each spin, until I get to the end, and I can't remember which fleg I am on - then I always mess up the last part!
    ppc :) MunkYBoY
    Sz, im like dying here. when are you gonna release the next version of BoD?
    DavidKing's game on Spike Cave DavidKing
    ppc :) PrayeR
    Sz
    heh, a lot of developers i know, say that programming for plamOS is not simple i wanted to try it by myself (i programmed C, C++, perl), but did not have time and all i did - installed codewarrior.. and then deleted it lol
    DrHollywood's game on Riding School
    Kind of Annoying, but still 18 flips!!!
    I know, not very impressive, but PLEASE, vote for me!?!
    DavidKing's game on Spike Cave DavidKing
    Disappointing ending, otherwise should 33.XX
    DavidKing's game on Spike Cave DavidKing
    33.XX is possible.
    ppc :) Kristopher
    This is great news! I thought I might have to stick with Palm OS to play this game, but now I guess I won't. Finally I can get a REALLY nice PDA and have something better to play than ported Playstation games. This could open up a whole new audience and a wave of competition, and it might bring enough revenue to keep SZ here instead of writing another program. This game is just too good to abandon.
    One major question in the PPC version is, "Will the bike have the same resolution in VGA (PPC) as it does in HVGA (Palm Os), giving people twice the view on PPC, or will the bike be of higher resolution, so it is the same size (CM) on both platforms?"
    Changing the web site shouldn't be too hard, although uploading files and generating Flash replays will take awhile.
    If you have used the Rsrcedit Palm program, you have probably noticed that Bike or Die uses standard methods for saving levels and pictures; I'm not sure if there is an easy way to convert this to PPC or not. Also, I don't think PPC ever had a grayscale era, so some display modes will not need to be converted. And another thing to consider is getting the existing players' best times and recordings to the other platform, which could be very hard.
    But no matter how many PPC players start playing this game, I'm still keeping my medal on Konecnik Down.
    DavidKing's game on Spike Cave DavidKing
    PrayeR's game on U Jump Andrew Ladd
    Ridiculous Dude that is awesome

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    Oliver's game on Jurassic Parking Andrew Ladd
    Dude ur liek ridiculous i mean r u in skool or wat u hav 2 mucho timeo
    Oliver's game on Jump Over Andrew Ladd
    dude thats crazy sik
    Oliver's game on Up! Up! Up! Andrew Ladd
    ur fookin ridiculioussssssssss i mean really kid ur crazily wastin ur time
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    How about adding all of your ranking positions for each level together to get a single number? If you're ranked number 10 for each of the 80 Time Trial levels (who's counting?), then your score would be 800 points. The player with the lowest score would be number 1. That way, the best possible score would be 80 points. This method would put emphasis on getting a fairly competitive time for each level, because being #1 on a level is only one point better than being #2 on that level, but if you haven't finished the Riding School levels you get over 1000 extra points.
    It also puts equal effect upon each level, which is great. If a level is so easy that everyone can get a good time on it, then the competition for that level increases until a good ranking for that level is as hard too get as one for a hard level. *gasp*
    If you can't finish all of the levels, then you are not a good player, or you have stopped playing, and that is what this ranking method shows. It also eliminates the need for giving points for each level completed; finishing the level in 12:58:64 is hardly worth affecting a player's global ranking, and it keeps players trying to get good times, not just finishing the levels.
    The End
    PS I am slightly confused on the current global ranking calculation. If you are number 90 in a level with 200 competitors, how many extra points do you get?
    Wheel Insider Time Trial LeoCuellar
    Hello everybody, my style is good, but i can't make it really clean, like DavidKing, so I am happy to share if that will help other better players to improve their times.
    Right now my palm is in reparirng center because the battery stop working so i can't play,I hope to be here again soon.
    LeoCuellar's game on Wheel Insider LeoCuellar
    back again!
    LeoCuellar's game on Wheel Insider LeoCuellar
    Back again!
    Wheel Insider Time Trial LeoCuellar
    I just got my palm back...
    LeoCuellar's game on Wheel Insider DavidKing
    Congratulations, welcome to come back.
    Tabs's game on Purple Palace DavidKing
    Almost perfect, very nice.
    Andrew Ladd's game on Sawtooth Andrew Ladd
    yo nur awesome
    The Veenk's game on Sinus Mountains Andrew Ladd
    awesome man ur ridiculous
    PrayeR's game on Sinus Mountains Andrew Ladd
    dude make this movie public jackass
    Oliver's game on Big Cheese Andrew Ladd
    u need to stop wastin' time biking and more time dyin'
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Great. Our forum is infested with rodents who say, "wow" to every game.
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus AVD
    wowzers!!!
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock AVD
    how r you guys so good? I do well on the levels and yet im like 200th
    Wheel Insider Time Trial PrayeR
    what palm do u have, Leo?
    Human Insides Time Trial Lee
    Great to see I am not alone on completing this level like this. Tabs made a much better run at the two long jumps - most of the time difference is in the first 20 seconds of the run.
    Tabs's game on Human Insides Lee
    I like seeing these games Tabs always seems to make his public like me.
    If I get beaten, at least I get the entertainment of seeing the moves of the experts!

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    Biker's Cafe Jfish
    really good freestyle
    I made an awesome freestyle run,but i forgot to check the "freestyle" box when i saved it. can i fix this?
    Jfish's game on Up! Up! Up! Jfish
    aw, i thought i pulled a quad at the top,oh well
    really good freestyle Lee
    find the run on your recently downloaded games and hit the "select this game as your freestyle" button
    Wheel Insider Time Trial LeoCuellar
    I have a Tungsten E, and you? i heard that in different palms the response of the bike is a little different but i'm not sure...
    Human Insides Time Trial Tabs
    I agree about the first 20 seconds Lee.
    When I completed the run I fully expected to
    beat your time.But on looking back at both movies
    I see where I failed and you succeeded.
    Yours is a superb run and will be difficult to beat.
    Wheel Insider Time Trial PrayeR
    well, i dont have palm device now, i have pocketpc now.
    before i had sony tj-35 and T5 and yes, bike handling was different, and i think time is running a bit different too.

    now i play only when i have chance to play on someones else palm device what happens not very often.
    Newspdate - v1.3c
    It is only relevant for the LifeDrive and Tungsten X owners - the old version failed to recognize the Left/Right/Select buttons. The BIG update with some new features taken from  Ideas is planned before Christmas.
    ppc :) Sz
    As for the resolution - i'm going to add the customizable zoom in the next (palm) version, which means the field of view can be bigger or smaller depending on the user settings. on ppc the default view will display approximately the same area as on palm to make both platforms look consistent.
    ppc :) Kristopher
    That's great, SZ! But it makes me wonder if people will all of a sudden be setting new records, making the current best times somewhat worthless.
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    This is great! And let's hope the new global ranking calculation is implemented before the PPC version comes out so the PPC users don't have to deal with the change.
    More New Ideas Kristopher
    Thanks! These add a lot of fun to the game. How about some where the guy is purple instead of black or there is extra gravity?
    A small update - v1.3c MunkYBoY
    freaking A!i can hardly wait!
    BOD - MrD Returns MunkYBoY
    i imagine they are possible but they are really freakin hard
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    i went from 50 to 39 over a weekend in which I was gone to my gradparents
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    wow
    haha
    DavidKing's game on Sawtooth DavidKing
    Oliver, I did it too.
    Mishka's game on Blizzard Mishka
    lalalaa testing testing
    Congratulations! Time Trial Mishka
    oh my god i passed PrayeR
    James Shen's game on The Right Way James Shen
    Acutally, I planned to use the way upward, but failed this time. Then, I have to choose to get throught the lower road.
    Congratulations! Time Trial Mishka
    hello Lee, Bálint.....
    monkeydave is next

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    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Here's my Freestyle entry? Does anyone want to vote? Please?? I've got lots of flips at the beginning and kept my form the same all the way through. Please Vote...
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down MunkYBoY
    i like it but i have used all my votes, sorry =|
    PORTING to Nintendo DS MunkYBoY
    multiplayer would be cool. i was thinking it would be something similar to elastomanias multiplayer where you help eachother beat the level
    A small update - v1.3c PrayeR
    why new golbal ranking should be implimented?
    i missed something?
    the one we have - is ok.
    Congratulations! Time Trial PrayeR
    i played this level only 2-3 times
    Didier's game on Pipe Universe Didier
    I obviously could have finished it faster, but I wanted to make sure I finished it the first time...
    Mishka's game on Blizzard Mishka
    since alot of people submitting their games to freestyle competition and they think its worth something, I put this one too. The ending is kinda cool.
    DavidKing's game on Cloudwalk DavidKing
    Opened
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    hoorah! i beat some levels and improved some times, hope it helps me
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    WOOHOO IM IN THE TOP 100. heh 98th place is good enough for now.
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    hey everyone,
    I was 10 points behind Dags. I also was 176th in Double Sprint. Later I playedthis level and got better time to 96th and now Im 14 points behind Dags. Any ideas?????
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    hmmm...get better times? idk thats all you can really do, just see how the people with the best times got their time and try to duplicate it or improve it.
    BOD - MrD Returns MunkYBoY
    yeah boring times at school led me to beat a few levels, now i am about halfway there
    Time Trial Champions Dags
    Mishka,
    Sometimes when a player is tied with another the server automaticaly rearranges them after a certain time - so I gain and lose points daily.
    Jordan's game on Square Jordan
    I was totally sweating that last approach -- so close and then nearly lost it.
    Real Newbie Levelpack Smalls
    I started out as a 'newbie' and I liked having the challenge of trying to be up to par with the 'big boys'. A pack like this would be fun, but it shouldn't be put into the BOD competition levels. Its not really that hard to get into the top 50, if you just watch the available replays and try a little bit. I do like the small levels though, they are my personal favorites. So I guess it doesn't really matter.
    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    oh ok thanx Dags I didnt know that
    James Shen's game on The Right Way Andrew Ladd
    whoa amazing
    rachman!'s game on Me vs. The Gravity Andrew Ladd
    are you kidding me
    dai's game on Me vs. The Gravity Andrew Ladd
    awesome

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    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Andrew Ladd
    f&*^in ridiculous
    PrayeR's game on Golden Gate Andrew Ladd
    wow
    Champ's game on Underground Champ
    HI
    Champ's game on Underground Champ
    This is awesome
    Champ's game on Underground Champ
    I can't believe I did this
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Champ
    no affence, but this suckz. !!!!!!!!!lol!!!!!!!!!!
    DavidKing's game on Sinus Mountains DavidKing
    Bálint's game on Up! Up! Up! Bálint
    As Oliver said, it's easy!
    Castle Time Trial Schneider
    Prayer i beat ou from lvl 55 on this to 3 lol the arrows are how i win
    Schneider's game on Castle Schneider
    i got so lucky but im not gonna show u all its actually an easy lvl
    The Veenk's game on Downhill Madness Champ
    cool
    I miss rachman! :( Sz
    i like the idea
    thanks, prayer!
    BOD - SiuLun's 2nd Levels Allen
    This is my 2nd level, hope you like it.
    Castle Time Trial PrayeR
    why everybody wants to beat me?
    i 99% retired from BoD.
    Roel's game on Underground Junior!
    pretty good!!
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    yay! look at me move up the ranks!
    Lee's game on Street Lee
    Got the wall bounce over the car - just 4 more tricks to go to perfect this level
    Human Insides Time Trial Lee
    Nice one Tabs - and a completely different line of attack for the whole bottom section.
    I just missed 32.70 seconds on this yesterday - just missed the chequered flag.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=36734
    I WILL get that gold back!
    PrayeR's game on Zip-Zap Andrew Ladd
    cool
    The Veenk's game on Downhill Madness Andrew Ladd
    nice!

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    PrayeR's game on Pipe Universe Andrew Ladd
    i think this levels impossible dude
    rachman!'s game on Big Cheese Andrew Ladd
    2fat 2flirtatious
    Brad543's game on Bottle Brad543
    I thought it was pretty cool.
    Castle Time Trial nbcl
    Still #1 though... has a certain stigma attached to it whether you're retiring or not
    Human Insides Time Trial Tabs
    You're right about 32.xx Lee.
    I missed out on that time by a wheels length
    though.
    Brad543's game on Downhill Madness Jess
    You suck
    dai's game on Red Murder nbcl
    Thanks for sharing this one At least it looks like there's no secrets to this level and I'm just four-five seconds worse than I need to be!
    Roel's game on Underground MunkYBoY
    argh! this isnt freestyle its just a quick way to beat a level that now anyone can do. its easily repeatable. now roguenine has a true freestyle game.
    Medals by Country MunkYBoY
    U.S. power activate!
    Schneider's game on Castle Smalls
    Nicely done Shcheider! I'm #13 in this level now, it is pretty easy huh. Good job!
    DavidKing's game on Me vs. The Gravity DavidKing
    23.XX Club.
    Oliver's game on The Well Hys
    OMG~~~~~
    dai's game on Cloudwalk Andrew Ladd
    nice
    rachman!'s game on Square Andrew Ladd
    nice
    PrayeR's game on Shark! Andrew Ladd
    awesome




    Biker's Cafe PrayeR
    bye all
    i decided to quit BoD officially.
    even if SZ will make ppc version.

    already long time (more than 6 monthes i sold my palm) i play very seldom, when i get possibility to play on someone's palm.
    therefore i can not defend my times and actually i am tired already and dont have any "fire" anymore. so i stop it. like already many peoples did. (Volcano, rachman!, etc.)
    i am first in time trials and country medals atm. so it's good time to do it. to go away when i got all i wanted.

    i want to wish luck Aleksey and Oliver, and wish them get to the top too, if they will continue playing, because they are really great players, that was nice, to play with you.

    good luck to my follower, David, too.

    thanks SZ for excelent game and good times.

    now i belong to the past. bye guys.
    bye all Kristopher
    I guess if I get gold on Konecnik Down, I will be able to keep it for a while. Goodbye!
    bye all DavidKing
    In fact I do not want to become the #1, because the pressure is too great, Good-bye, Prayer.
    bye all MunkYBoY
    jeeze ive played since basically the begining of this year (didnt actually get around to buying it till a month or so) but i hope that i dont stop playing, i still want to go out strong. i actually think this is a good time to make some other level packs for the hall of fame cuz well i just think its time.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    My medal got the US in the Top 10!

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    PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
    opened
    PrayeR's game on Sqare PrayeR
    that's the trick guys, pretty easy, huh?
    it was my first developed trick, still pretty proud of it
    PrayeR's game on pumb.org PrayeR
    opened
    PrayeR's game on Sinus Mountains PrayeR
    ok, opened
    PrayeR's game on Red Murder PrayeR
    opened
    PrayeR's game on Vanilla Sky PrayeR
    one of my favorite tricks.
    PrayeR's game on Vanilla Sky PrayeR
    "it's possible to win if u loose 3 seconds at the begining?"
    the answer is yes, sir. hehe.
    BoD - is not just copy-paste game, with hours of one level playing, and then marking games private with useless comments.

    "to think" = "to win".

    this is little present for Oliver, long time king of this level
    PrayeR's game on Nose PrayeR
    the point is - not to brake before second "ring"
    u have to find such position of wheels - when u can go into the second ring at high speed - that's how u can do 27.xx
    it's pretty easy, just try or copy this game and u will succeed.
    DavidKing's game on Sinus Mountains DavidKing
    Opened
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    Opened
    DavidKing's game on Cloudwalk DavidKing
    Opened! Though I may lose the gold medal.
    Ideas MunkYBoY
    Hall of fame levels...
    okay SZ im wondering if you are ever going to change the hall of fame levels. these ones are great and all but i think its time for a change up. and instead of just taking level packs people submit make custom level packs (i.e. very easy lvl pack - very hard lvl pack) though some peoples idea of hard and easy vary you could just use your best judgment. i'd really like some new competition instead of trying to beat these freaking fast times. this way everyone will start anew. its just a suggestion but i feel its time for change.
    jasonjerome's game on Riding School jasonjerome
    ..
    bye all nbcl
    Goodbye, man - we'll miss you. Thanks for pushing the envelope
    Hall of fame levels... Kristopher
    It is hard for the late starting players to compete with those who have been playing for over a year, but to be honest, the new players shouldn't be ranked higher than the old players unless they can really play better. The new players just have to keep playing if they want any medals.
    But it is time for a new level pack soon, and I think some prodigy players have stopped playing because there are too few levels.
    Hall of fame levels... MunkYBoY
    i didnt think there were too few levels, but now that you mention it i have already gotten tired of some of the level packs. i have no idea how you longer playing BODers still keep trying for better times on those. i still do for like a few courses but thats it.
    bye all Andrew Ladd
    dude you were awesome well miss you
    jasonjerome's game on Underground jasonjerome
    MABUHAY!!!
    Unable to upload recordings from Palm Treo 650 Adriano
    Same here (Treo 650) ... i continue to have that problem
    "Unrecognized response from the server"
    Please there's some workaround to fix that ?
    thanks
    Ideas Adriano
    Hall of fame on palm side !
    Any chance to see in the next christmas (?) robust update the hall of fame directly from within our palm ?
    It would be great !
    thanks

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    Hall of fame on palm side ! Kristopher
    You can already submit recordings from your Palm if you have a wireless Internet connection on it.
    Brad543's game on The Well Jess
    You are alright...haha jk i only wish i was as good as you...
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Don't you all wish you could do this?
    Hall of fame on palm side ! Adriano
    Kristopher, i know that, though i always receive an error message (from my treo 650): Unkown message from server.

    My idea about hall of fame on palm side is to put all the hall of fame records on palm side, not only the own records.
    But it's only ad idea ....

    ZhangXiean's game on The Right Way James Shen
    Cool! Very smooth!
    Tabs's game on Obstacalis Muchus Nik
    RESPECT!!!
    Hall of fame on palm side ! Kristopher
    I'm not sure about the errors, but about putting the Hall of Fame on your Palm: that could be very complicated and might be more than a Palm can handle. Games are never automatically deleted from the Bike or Die site, so if you comment on one of your best times, and then replace that game with a new record time, the first game and the comment are still saved. (You can see all the games you have ever submitted in your profile by clicking "Games On-Line." So putting the Hall of Fame on your Palm could require the transfer of several thousand games. Also, over 100 players have custom pictures, so that would be hard to fit on a Palm.
    If you just wanted to see players' names and times (with out replays), it could be possible, but most of us probably don't frequently access the Internet through our Palms. And not too much changes each week, so you shouldn't need an update every hour.
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    25 is a nice number of levels, but they should be arranged so every other one is easy so all the levels can be unlocked easily.
    Also I want to mention that long, easy levels are not fun to perfect, so I would prefer levels like "Right Way." It was small, easy to complete, required a variety of techniques to complete (jump/ go up the stairs/ ride down a semicircle/ duck...), was great for freestyle games, and took a considerable amount of time to perfect (unlike "Bottle", which you can play for hours without getting any better at the game).
    Hall of fame on palm side ! Kristopher
    P.S. PrayeR has submitted over 650 games.
    Pedro's game on The Well Champ
    YOu stink. Go faster
    BikeOrDie XA Software 3 Callipygian
    This is the first level pack that is refined enough to remind me of the original levels. Everything is all so intentional, I love it! Very visible in L9 and L4 how much time the designer put into making the bike go exactly where he wanted. The only annoying bit is having to go back and do levels you've already done in the dark. Also, it would be nice to have a "congratulations" level at the end. It was kind of anti-climatic when I finally beat the last level.
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Hi-res+ is not fully supported
    I now how a Tapwave Zodiac and I noticed that some parts of Bike or Die don't run full screen in landscape mode. For example, when the 'Save Game' box comes up, the game reverts to the standard hi-res mode and the virtual graffitti comes up. When the game is saved, it then goes back into landscape mode, but the words saying what your time was are no longer there. Is there a way to stop this? Also, when the game first starts by displaying the Toyspring logo, the logo is not centered in the screen because the virtual graffitti is on again.
    I find this somewhat annoying, since the screen blinks every time it switches size. Solutions, anyone?
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Coincidence or not? Why are there so many programmers playing this game?
    I think it's more than a coincidence that there are so many programmers playing this game. PrayeR said he had done some programming (with Perl I think), and You Qi has Palm programs selling at Palm Gear. What is it about this game that attracts the programmers (and Web designers) so much? I should know since I like programming, too, but I dont.
    2nd best game on palm after BoD? Kristopher
    I switched to the Zodiac, so I am not planning to buy Interstellar Flames any more. I haven't bought any other games yet, and I might not have to.
    Easter Eggs? Kristopher
    On hi-res+, you have to select 'Toggle Full Screen' from the options menu to open the virtual graffiti area.
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Zodiac Controls
    I have a Tapwave Zodiac now and there is plenty of control options, so I want to make sure I am using the best configuration. I don't like the analog controller for this game, so I have decided not to use it.
    SZ mentioned adding analog support for the Zodiac in the next version, but I would not prefer that. The trouble with analog controllers is that you might think you are accelerating at 100% but are really only going at 95%. Do any other Zodiac owners want the analog controller to support analog control? I don't think it would be fair, because it either gives Zodiac owners an advantage or a disadvantage- it will affect a player's ability.
    I use the function button for flipping (turning around, not doing 360), and I use the colored buttons on the other side for accelerating, braking, and balancing. I have the map set to "Tap Left", which is not very convenient, but it works because I have most of the maps memorized, and I can't press the triggers due to the way I hold my handheld.
    P.S. Testing HTML: <b>...</b> <br> <hr> <img src=http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/greatamerica.jpg>
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I have not been able to play Bike or Die for over a month because I lost my Palm. I hope this explains why I dropped out of the top 50, have not won a gold medal, and have not finished the levelpack I am making. You can read about it at my website:

    http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/palm/lost

    But I have a replacement now (Tapwave Zodiac), and I am back. 8)
    Level Pack Names Kristopher
    When I had hard resets on my (now missing) Zire 72s, I would have to look through several hundred files to manually restore the level packs. It would have been easier if all of the level pack names had started with the letter 'B'.
    devices and controls Kristopher
    Tapwave Zodiac:
    flip-function
    map-tap left
    balance-red and yellow
    accelerate-blue
    brake-green

    P.S. Testing BB Code and PHP: :roll: [b]...[/b]
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Kristopher
    It's my second day with my Tapwave Zodiac, and I have already done under 25 seconds twice.

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    Smalls's game on Underground Smalls
    Justin Good Job but You still Need to go faster to beat #1 but i'm Catchin up better hurry Josh N
    bye all Lee
    Dude - you will be missed - always nice t osee the bar raised.
    I still enjoy the game - funnily enough I have a go at the "older levels" occasionally - and seem to beat my long-standing best times surprisingly easily. I don't know if I will ever walk away from the game altogether. Thanks for openning everything up as a leaving present.
    Real Newbie Levelpack ...lol
    I agree with Kristopher, i like levels like Right Way. I think Sz should edit some of the levels on that list just to make them better looking or more intresting, or just plain harder. I also think Sz should make some more levels
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    But Sz doesn't have to make them; anyone can. If you want to do the Bike or Die community a favor, you should make your own levels. Also, you can edit other people's levels after you have downloaded them.
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Nice music control on the Zodiac
    I found out Bike or Die lets you assign a different song to each level on the Zodiac- Wow! I wasn't expecting to find any new features from the same version, and I am now even more impressed. I had fun assigning songs to certain levels:
    Sleeps with the Fishes- Sea of Faces
    Moon Madness- My Personal Moon
    Konecnik Down- What's Goin' Down
    Nose- Breathe
    Blizzard- So Cold
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Bike or Design Hard Key Controls with Zodiac
    I am not able to nudge objects in Bike or Design left or righ t with the hardkeys on my Zodiac; the analog controller and colored keys only move the objects up and down.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    My levels are almost done, and some of the last ones are very impressive, so please try this and don't stop playing after the first 40 levels. And they aren't that hard.
    devices and controls Kristopher
    Now I press up to display the map.
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Andrew Ladd
    coo
    Real Newbie Levelpack ...lol
    Well i dunno how to load my own levels, and plus he makes really good levels.
    Nice music control on the Zodiac MunkYBoY
    agh! thats awesome!
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese jonas
    WOW Respect!!!
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    Sz also makes really good games and web sites. You can email your level pack to him- the email address is mentioned somewhere in the 'levels' part of the forum.
    Coincidence or not? Why are there so many programmers playing this game? Sz
    and i play this game, too
    Coincidence or not? Why are there so many programmers playing this game? Kristopher
    Yes, but I thought everybody knew that. :p I noticed your name in You Qi's program; did you help him get started?
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    The Right Way Level
    It seems everyone really likes this level. If you like it, please post here to say why you like it. Maybe the other level creators and I will take the best parts of this levels into consideration when we create our own levels. Does anyone NOT like this level??
    Here is why I like it:
    * multiple routes
    * fast
    * easy for beginners
    * different styles all get a good time
    Coincidence or not? Why are there so many programmers playing this game? Tabs
    I'm a programmer too.I mainy do Client Server
    software (its boring but it pays the bills) but I
    have done some Palm Programming to in C.
    I used the Falch Net Studio (Falch is no longer active)
    application to write the programs.I wrote quite a decent
    Asteroids/Robotron game but never got it 100% finished -
    lack of time.
    The Right Way Level MunkYBoY
    heheheh yeah i like it.
    *great ways to die
    *fun to free style
    *quick and easy
    *it never seems to get old
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I submitted 20 recordings for the Standard Levels and moved up 9 spots in the Time Trial!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I'm in the top 40! (And I don't plan to lose my spot )

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    The Right Way Level Sz
    that's amazing, because this level was the first level ever created for BoD!!! (used for testing the engine)
    Newsreleased
    At last, the new game from Toyspring! This is not the famous ever-late game, which was promised months ago, but I just thought I should release anything this year to save my dignity
    3D Mines Homepage
    3D Mines released nbcl
    Looks top... if not horrendously mind-bending! Will stick it on my Palm tomorrow, looking forward to trying it out...
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    holy $#!% its a new kickass game! finally i shall have a third toyspring game on my pda.
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    It's great that Sz added a whole new dimension to a classic, while others are still adding colorful graphics to old games and calling them new (everyone is re-making Galaxian).
    It says it works only with ARM processors, but the Zodiac doesn't have one! I'll see if it works anyway...
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    this should work on my Zire 21 right? its os5 and im pretty sure it has an ARM processor. i'll just try and report back.
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    ummmmmmmmmm yeah. Sz, would it be possible to make a greyscale version. it says it cant convert to 8 bit mode or something. it would be cool if you did.
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    It's against the laws of physics for a game this great to run in grayscale.
    3D Mines released Dieter
    crap, right when my Zire craps out on me. I have to send it back to get it fixed (its probably gonna take 2 weeks). But Ill be sure to try it when i get it back.
    3D Mines released Sz
    of course it works on Zodiac its processor is produced by Motorola but it has the ARM core.
    as for the grayscale - i will see if a simple trick will do, then the the grayscale support would be ready in minutes! stay tuned!
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    That ARM/ Motorola thing is confusing. I have heard nothing about the Zodiac being ARM-based, and I figured Motorola was a competitor with Intel, who makes ARM. But as long as it works, I am
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    omg i'll be waiting!
    3D Mines released Sz
    yeah, it can be confusing, especially because the old palm devices (os 4 and before) were based on motorola chips (m68k).

    good news for zire 21 owners! the simple trick didn't work but after doing a slightly more complicated trick the game works on my treo 600 in grayscale mode, which means it should probably work on zire 21 (the beta version is available from 3D mines homepage)
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    omg! thanks for taking the time to make this greyscale. im gonna test it out now
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    thank you very much! it works perfectly. the mines and progress stats at the top are kinda hard to see but it works for me
    3D Mines released Lee
    Interesting price - US$7.77
    How did you come to that number, and do you mind me asking?.... how much do you get of that, as the developer?
    Great game, by the way - the custom levels are nutty!
    ZhangXiean's game on Big Cheese Hys
    NCDigi£¿£¿£¿ÄãÊDZù¶³Ð¡ÕÂÓ㣿£¿
    ZhangXiean's game on Big Cheese Hys
    Are you FROZEN OCTOPUS???
    3D Mines released Sz
    most prices are *,95 and *,99 - this is just boring
    the commission taken by the software stores is between 25% (clickgamer) and 40% (palmgear and handango)
    3D Mines released nbcl
    I was never any good at Minesweeper - and I'm even worse at this! It's wonderfully done though and a completely bonkers idea

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    ZhangXiean's game on Big Cheese nbcl
    I think that's the greatest comment I've ever read.
    Kristopher's game on The Right Way MunkYBoY
    i see way too much breaking. you could have probably got 20.xx.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    CrAzy PhySiCS took lots of tries but got one in the top ten Vote if you like it!
    3D Mines released Tiger
    I like it Sz! Cant wait for your big one though
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 underoh
    im new to this game but holy shit never seen anything like it crazy awesome ur a fool not to vote for this u got mine
    Kristopher's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    Yes, but I was scared that I would crash after I did an almost perfect run to that part at the top where you have to duck. I will keep trying this level; I can't let you beat me.
    Save the Princess!! Powerman
    Impossible
    Kristopher's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    I belive I was playing without hi-res+ at the time; I was playing in 320x320 mode, and in that mode it seems to go much faster.
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    This game is abnormally fun! My friends had fun spinning the shapes around- until one of them finally figured it out. I have some suggestions/ feedback for this game:
    * The time you are trying to beat should be on the screen at all times when in landscape mode, because there is extra space.
    * The Zodiac should vibrate when the mines explode.
    * Note: On the Beginner Truncated- Cube, I have twice already won with a single tap (in 0 seconds).

    I will try to review this game at PDArcade, so you should be able to read more there in about a week.
    Kristopher's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    Okay, I did it again without the excessive breaking and saved half a second; I will submit that game soon.
    3D Mines released Tiger
    I have only one thing to suggest...
    Zoom - Some of the shapes are really close to the screen, while others are far away.
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    ooh, i got 0 seconds on the "Almost 2D" level. hard to beat that
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese Vin
    lol whos torrobinson? this 'freestyle'....NICE..?
    So You Think You Can Dance? Vin
    nice lvlpack and save the princess is beatable...with a few modifications it could be a global ranking one or at least a few levels from it...Welcome to the jungle
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    DUDE nice game, skill flips and break through the bump
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    The objects are zoomed so they fill the whole screen, but maybe an extra option to say whether the whole object should fit on the screen, or if it should be zoomed in more so not all of it fits on the screen at once would be nice. Some of the custom objects are so long they are too far away.
    The price is nice- Astraware would probably put a picture in the background and charge $20.
    Putting a picture in the background would not be a bad idea, though. Would it be possible to switch JPGs for every game?
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    dont give astraware any ideas, they might steal them and profit more than Sz. that would be cool though.
    Malysz jonas
    huuii 40 sec das ganze relative schnell
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 V
    U got my vote new way can get higher scores sweet game
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    I've given them lots of ideas; I have 190 posts at their forums. But they haven't used any of them yet. And they don't steal from Palm developers; they "port" from PC developers.

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    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    eww from afghanistan? really cool tho im still voting for it
    MunkYBoY's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    The start isn't to great; there are little things to improve there, and you weren't trying for any records at the part where you have to duck, but you kept great speed once you got to the semicircle, and you had an impressively dangerous finish.
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    heheheh
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    Since I am reviewing this game for PDArcade, I have some questions:
    * Is there anything like this on the PC?
    * Have any crashes or incompatibility issues been reported?
    * Are any future versions coming out soon?
    * How is the frame rate on slower palms (Sony or Zire 21)?
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    i get a good frame rate on the zire21 unless its like one of those levels that makes everything really lag and you end up sliding and thats only two levels and they arent in the hall of fame.
    theres a game called elastomania and its pretty much the same thing as bike or die.
    of course theres a future version coming out...soon?
    i personally havent had any issues with it.
    MunkYBoY's game on The Right Way MunkYBoY
    i always have close calls at the end. thanks for the tips
    Time Trial Champions nbcl
    Congratulations DavidKing
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    by one point too
    3D Mines released Sz
    the answers:
  • yes, there is one very similar windows minesweeper, (which i found during my initial googling to make sure there is nothing like this on palm yet ) and several "cube-based" windows minesweepers (the single field is not a flat square but a 3d object itself, it makes the visualisation more complicated, because those fields must become semitransparent to give access to the other fields inside the playing board). personally i prefer the "surface-based" minesweepers
  • one person reported that it doesn't work on tungsten t. another tungsten x owner said the graffiti stays on screen after using modal dialogs (eg. custom board). the causes are not yet determined.
  • the next version will be released when i fix some bugs (as the above). the future development depends on my free time and on the feedback - there are dozens of minesweepers on palm (on palmgear new & updated you can see at least one of them constantly!) and even being the only 3d version doesn't ensure the success btw. thank you for your ideas about improving the game. i'm going to use some of them in v1.1
  • tungsten E has the worst performance (15 fps) i've ever seen on 3d mines. this is because of the high resolution screen (a lot of pixels) and a weak processor (126 MHz). actually, the low resolution devices like zire 21 should perform much better (i have ~40fps on the 144MHz treo 600) but of course the graphics is less detailed which is a drawback on the expert levels having a lot of small fields.
    (btw. there is a "secret" code to see the fps measure, type: "f" + enter, like the BoD easter eggs, then spin the object to make the game refresh the 3d view constantly for a second or two in order to get meaningful results. of course the performance depends on the complexity of the object)
  • rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Louis
    poop
    Kristopher's game on Finding Mice V
    whatg is it with u and flips were u gonna submit this for freestyle cuz dont
    Kristopher's game on Finding Mice Kristopher
    Flipping is fun, and it looks really nice if you do it right. Also, I accidentally pressed the balance buttons sometimes on my Zire 72s (Currently MIA). I already have a Freestyle submission, and I got a vote.
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    Thanks for the answers! But I didn't need any for Bike or Die; I reviewed Bike or Die already at PDArcade.
    My review of 3D Mines should be posted in a few days. With the right publicity, 3D Mines should be a big success; I can't imagine playing in 2D instead of 3D, and I like this better than the cube-based versions.
    Have I mentioned this game could use some themeatic music? The game has such an original look to it, and that should be taken advantage of. How about techno or space music?
    It's great that my ideas will be used. Did Astraware want to make a level editor for Super Slyder upon my suggestion? Noooooooo!! They wouldn't do it unless PopCap did!! They didn't think it would attract many more customers. It shows you what kind of audience they are attracting- the people who don't want to play the same game for more than a day. But not all of there games are short lived...
    The FPS isn't bad; I'm not sure what the T|E can run well.
    Is the problem for every T|E, or can anyone run 3DM on theirs?
    This is a great game. I plan to buy it ASAP.
    3D Mines released MunkYBoY
    i was thinking, for atmospheric music, something kinda classical. like piano music or something. thats what it feels like to me.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Thanks, but I don't have any glad feeling.
    You Qi's game on U Jump Vin
    This is sweet check out my freestyle somewhere here in the top ten I think Its really similar cept for riding school part 2 and it also got be 6th best score on the lvl. That way could get someone a better score than oliver on that lvl
    Oliver's game on Golden Gate Louis
    truly amazing
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent Louis
    pooppiiopiiopp poo poo
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    Good job Vinay i like it
    3D Mines released You Qi
    ok, yet another addictive game from Sz.

    FYI, i can get 24max when Gravitti open while 23max when closed for UX50. For LifeDrive, gravitti open can get about 95max and 75max for closed.

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    3D Mines released You Qi
    oops, I found that the result was vary for each levels.
    as FYI(again ), the ux50 fps result was based on DeathStar level while the LifeDrive based on Moebius level. (UX50 get 28max and 27max on Moebius level) I will try Treo650 performance later when my dad's back!
    3D Mines released You Qi
    ok, so Treo650 get about 58max on Moebius level.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Person 1: Who is the new Time Trial Champ?
    Person 2: David King.
    Person 1: Where is he?
    Person 2: I can't see him. He went in to a crowd, and since he looks like so many other players...
    Person 1: Is he green with envy at Kristopher's nice avatar?
    Person 2: No, actually, he is sort of gray.
    Person 1: Gray haired?
    Person 2: You can't actually tell how much of it is hair.
    Person 1: Maybe you're just looking at his shadow. :p
    Person 1: That would be weird.

    Hee hee hee...
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    Thanks for the results. Since the Zodiac doesn't use the graphics accelerator for this game (that way it uses less battery), in Hi-res+, it gets between 45 FPS for a 1x1 Flat object, and 8 FPS for the big objects while running music in the background.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Great job, DavidKing- and you didn't have to wait for the next level pack to come out. Once it does, PrayeR will drop several positions.
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    congratulations, davidking!
    good joke, kristopher
    and i made the avatar for you, it emphasizes your current ranking position but still complies with your humility:
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    lol nice one Sz
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Very Funny.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Queen: Help! Someone stole my crown!
    Security Guard: Are there any suspects?
    Queen: Well, I did see a suspicious looking ghost around here.
    Security Guard: What?? Wait! There he is! Excuse me, but are you a ghost?
    DavidKing: No. I'm the King. David King.
    Queen: But I'm the Queen and this is my Kingdom!
    DavidKing: But I am the Bike or Die King. The Bike or Die David King.
    Queen: Did you take my crown?
    DavidKing: No, but I think my shadow might have.
    The plot thickens...
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    PrayeR doesn't look like a Queen
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Act Two...

    Security Guard: What does your shadow look like?
    DavidKing: He's about my shape, size, build, and color.
    Security Guard: You look the same as your shadow?
    DavidKing: Yes, it is a problem some times. I tried banging my head on a wall, and I broke a mirror.
    Security Guard: Isn't that bad luck?
    DavidKing: That is why I am a ghost now.
    Queen: You still have my crown.
    DavidKing: But I won it!
    Queen: What?
    DavidKing: I am the Bike or Die Champion!
    Queen: What is Bike or Die?
    DavidKing: Wait! Aren't you PrayeR?
    Queen: Do I look like a purple, angry skeleton?
    DavidKing: No. Maybe I took the wrong crown.
    Queen: Security! Arrest him!
    DavidKing: Wait! I have a reasonable explanation for this!

    What will happen to DavidKing? Find out next time in "The Case of the Mysterious Crown Confusion!"
    Biker's Cafe King Koopa
    treo 650 and adding level packs
    I have tried a few different levelpacks (in prc format) and did quick install and ive tried transfering them over to my card using cardexport (which allows me to move files to it like a usb flash drive) and when i select more it says no levelpacks installed... im i doing something wrong?
    treo 650 and adding level packs Kristopher
    I think you have to keep the levelpacks in the internal memory, so you should install them there.
    treo 650 and adding level packs King Koopa
    yeah i was worried that was what id have to do.. there is no way to add them to the card instead of internal?
    treo 650 and adding level packs Sz
    don't worry, just wait for the next release (soon!)
    The Right Way Level ...lol
    I like this level cuz:
    *You can go fast
    *Takes skill to go fast
    *Nice size
    *Doesn't take to long to complete
    *It flows (Its continous, if you want you don't have to slow down, dont have to completely stop and turn th bike around, etc.) This is relaly important for most levels.

    I wish more levels were made like this one (Not like just like it, but like small size, quick to beat and takes skill to go fast. Plus the level looks really good and refined, like most standard levels).
    treo 650 and adding level packs Kristopher
    Every time the game searches for the level packs on your SD card, it will take a few seconds, so even after the next release, you may still want to keep them on the internal memory. Altogether, they only total about an extra megabyte.
    The Right Way Level Kristopher
    ... And you don't have to do anything twice; you go up once, down once, left once, right once, flip really fast once, duck once, balance so you don't crash while you are going really fast once... Also, there are no steep angles (like when you have to go up the stairs) to slow you down...
    Coincidence or not? Why are there so many programmers playing this game? Kristopher
    Maybe lots of programmers have Palms, or maybe they are the only ones who will play this game long enough to get a respectable ranking.
    Aleksey's game on Cave Dweller Aleksey
    I did it too!

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    Time Trial Champions Mishka
    okkkkkkk????
    you guys are straight up BORED!!!!
    Me vs. The Gravity Time Trial Kristopher
    I saw my name moving at the bottom of the Bike or Die home page saying I moved up in this level, and then it listed several players who all moved one spot down. I didn't think my time was that great, but I guess it wasn't too bad
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    NBCL, Tabs, Schneider... I am winning!!
    Kristopher's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    How did I get such a good ranking? Only fifteen people are competing for in this level?
    Ideas Kristopher
    Replays on a Level's Main Page
    Hi (again)! When you go to a level's main page, where you see the list of best times for that level and the comments for the level, how about replacing the still picture of the map with a replay? The replay could be the fastest one that is public.
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder Andrew Ladd
    wow
    JPUI's game on Cablecar JPUI
    oops. I uploaded the wrong game. How do you know that you are uploading the one you want to upload? especially the letters/numbers at the end of the file (eg,- Bike_or_Die_L1_T1103.pdb).
    JPUI's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    You can look at the recorded games on your Palm, and when you select one, it says what your time is. If the games have different times, then you can tell them apart by the file names, which are based on the game time. You should always upload your fastest ones, but if you want to make a freestyle game that is not your fastest, you can go to your profile and click "Games on-line" to find it. The Java program is great for uploading recordings; I just started using it, and it will upload many recordings very fast.
    Kristopher's game on KL City Centre Kristopher
    No wonder I thought this game was so hard! I had a very abnormal beginning in this game.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Act Three (The part that is boring)...

    Kristopher: [strolling by the Queen's Palace] Hey, is that- no, it couldn't be! Are you- Tabs? He is great at Bike or Die.
    DavidKing: No, I'm not. But I do play Bike or Die.
    Kristopher: Are you Schneider? Anso?
    DavidKing: No. I am the King. The DavidKing.
    Queen: He is going to jail now for impersonation of the King, unless he really is one.
    Kristopher: He is the Bike or Champion.
    Queen: Are you one of his loyal subjects?
    Kristopher: No; actually, I am planning to overthrow his reign... eventually.
    Queen: That sounds like a great way to end this Play. The End...

    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    How do you like my new (edited) picture?
    JPUI's game on U Jump JPUI
    Awww. I'm last.. Any tips to help me improve my skills to get a better speed to get all the flags and win?
    JPUI's game on Cablecar JPUI
    I tried using the Java program but it said it is not working.. please help me.
    JPUI's game on Cablecar JPUI
    Also, How do you get points?
    Levelpack Explorer JPUI
    Hello,

    I want to submit a pack i made. How and where do you upload the pack you made?

    Please e-mail joey@jpui.be as i do not come here often.

    thanks.
    JPUI's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    What happens when you open the bikeordie-websync program? You have to be on-line when you start it, and you may not have the required Java program/ language on your computer. You get 100 points for each completed level, plus up to 100 extra points for each level based on your ranking for in the level. The player with the gold medal gets 100 extra points, and the person with the 100th best time gets one point.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    JPUI, read previous posts!
    JPUI's game on U Jump Kristopher
    Try to play the levels like the champions.
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    This took hundreds of tries but I just knew it would work. I see now that Vin (#8) beat me to it though. Nice job Vin!
    Levelpack Explorer ...lol
    Wow you can just tell him to first sync, then find his level pack in his palm folder (or whatever, thats how i did it) and save it, and email it to sz..

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    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    I'd say this looks better than Vin's game.
    The Veenk's game on Underground Kristopher
    Who is Tyson?
    So You Think You Can Dance? Louis
    poop poop nice poop poop nice pack LOOK AT THIS ONE SZYMON
    JPUI's game on Cablecar JPUI
    what does it mean if you have a silver medal? sry 4 asking alot of questions.
    Levelpack Explorer JPUI
    ooo. e-mail it. ok.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    yeah.. i got lucky..
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    WTF that sucked
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    fine louis lets see you do it
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    I got 12.22 on my friends palm, it just figures. I only played it like five times on his too. Oh well!
    JPUI's game on U Jump JPUI
    tips...
    Roel's game on Underground P.Kitty
    WOW! for a long time I spent my time doing tricks, this is unbelieveble, I could never have done that
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Wow! That's strange how your bike shifted at the base of the slope. That let you jam up it though w/out crashing. Nice run.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 P.Kitty
    wow! that was really fast!
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way P.Kitty
    that was nice, I like games like that
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness P.Kitty
    reminds me of some of my games... but BETTER!!! that was a VERY high jump to land, great job!
    You Qi's game on U Jump P.Kitty
    that's cool, like if you land too high you go through the floor
    Wertguy's game on Big Cheese P.Kitty
    sorry to say but, it does suck
    JPUI's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    It means I have the second best time on one of the levels (mine is for Konecnik Down).
    JPUI's game on U Jump Kristopher
    Try to go as fast as you can- don't coast on this level. And find the fastest route so you don't go anywhere twice unless you have to.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    You and Vega are really perfecting this level. Are you guys going to try to get a medal here?

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    Time Trial Champions Louis
    pisndan
    Time Trial Champions Louis
    i no spek eglis
    Time Trial Champions Louis
    wat means "bike or die"
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    I would be ok with another medal 12:22 or better just to get in! Yikes!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    "Bike or Die" means you can't live without biking.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    this was random.. i was just playing for 10 minutes one night and randomly started getting faster times. Now i cant only get 12:60s... havent had one below since i got this time..
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Just .02 seconds short!!! I am SO close!
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Oh, and this was one of three games I played that night under 25 seconds.
    Adding Custom Pictures to My Levels Kristopher
    Here is how I am adding pictures to my levels. The process is very long, and you cannot get hi-res pictures, but it does work. But isn't there an easier way?

    Open the picture in Windows using Paint or Photoshop, and save it as a 256-color BMP with a maximum resolution of 160x160.
    Put that on an SD card.
    Using Tealpaint for Palm, create a DB on your Palm's RAM, and select "Import from BMP" on the menu. Then find the BMP and import it.
    Put the cursor on the name of the picture, and select "Change Format" from the menu. Then change the format to 8 bit (256 colors).
    Close TealPaint and open Rsrc Edit. Find the PDB you created in TealPaint, highlight it, and select "Open as TealPaint DB" from the menu.
    Select the picture in the Teal DB you want to add to your custom levels, and select copy as TBMP.
    Find your custom levelpack in Rsrc Edit, open it, and paste the TBMP from the menu.
    Open the TBMP, and edit as necessary. You can select a color numbered 0 (white) to 255 (black) to be transparent.
    Close the picture, highlight it in your levelpack, and give it a different number. If you number it as #450, it will act as picture 50.
    Andrew Ladd's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    HAHAHAHA I used MOONLIGHT!!!!
    BikeOrDie - sub10 Sz
    the idea behind the "sub 10" levelpack is that each level should be completed in less than 10 seconds. yes, it is possible!
    A small update - v1.3c Sz
    important for LifeDrive owners: "LifeDrive Update 2.0" from Palm apparently fixes the infamous button problem (simultaneous key press was not recognized!).
    LifeDrive Update 2.0
    Time Trial Champions DZ
    "Louis" is the biggest loser on this site.
    Time Trial Champions DZ
    he can't stop saying "poop".
    BikeOrDie - BGPack3 Bg
    Needed a levelpack fo my kids because they were asking to bike or die - Here it is...
    BikeOrDie - BGPack2 Bg
    A group of medium difficulty levels...Enjoy
    Levelpack Explorer Bg
    Hey, for a less complex challenge (yet tricky to get low times), try BG_Levels 1-3
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness Doeni
    Great Flip!!
    Time Trial Champions Louis
    no DZ is mean
    A small update - v1.3c You Qi
    I found that LifeDrive got somekind of "lag" when the bike crashes. it also happens sometimes when riding.

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    DavidKing's game on The Well JPUI
    this looks like almost the same as Oliver.
    JPUI's game on The Well JPUI
    How do you undo the freestyle game to make another one to be in the freestyle competition??
    Freestyle Competition JPUI
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=40255

    How do you undo the freestyle game to make another one to be in the freestyle competition??
    devices and controls JPUI
    I have the same settings for the buttons as Kristopher, but I have a Zire 71 and Zire 72 (getting a Zire 72s tomorrow).

    And yes, I now have 3 palm (Zire 72 gave it to my dad because getting Zire 72s). :p
    JPUI's game on The Well JPUI
    3-4 flips. WOOOT!!

    Please vote for it!
    Freestyle Competition JPUI
    Take a look ath this:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=40265

    Please vote. Thanks. :smile:
    Vin's game on Sinus Mountains Andrew Ladd
    cool vinay
    Vin's game on Vanilla Sky Andrew Ladd
    nice move at the begining
    Freestyle Competition Sz
    the website is now free of poo
    L. don't do it again. nobody likes cheaters.
    Freestyle Competition Sz
    JPUI: when you choose a game for freestyle the previous one gets deselected automatically.
    PrayeR's game on U Jump JPUI
    How did you do that?
    Freestyle Competition MunkYBoY
    yay, no more poo
    JPUI's game on The Well Kristopher
    Wow! This is very hard to do.
    JPUI's game on The Well JPUI
    lol. luck? I need votes. Can you vote for yourself? :lol:
    Freestyle Competition JPUI
    Thanks for hte tip SZ.

    also, how do you type in the smiles? I can't seem to do it.

    :smile: :p :lol:
    The Veenk's game on Downhill Madness JPUI
    the way you hit the rock thing (under the tree) is when you would have died.. but you didn't .. lol. wow.
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    Smilies:
    : P
    : D
    : >
    : )
    ; )
    torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Kristopher
    This is quite impressive... even just counting the flips after you did them. Maybe some of the new players will vote for it.
    Oliver's game on Floors JPUI
    What Palm do you use?

    My Zire 71's navigational button is hard to move, plus hurts your thumb.

    I am getting a Zire 72 soon.
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    If life is your slave, and you have a Life Drive, then you are a slave driver.

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    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Hmmm... something is wrong with the Web Site. Any news?
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    database problem solved, the hall of fame is back
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Sz
    i'm in!
    and here is the clickable link: http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=3745307
    Kristopher's game on Shark! Kristopher
    I know my time is very bad, but I will beat it soon.
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice Kristopher
    I thought it would be faster to go back up the Mammoth a little more so you could jump up to the cave faster.
    Kristopher's game on Underground Kristopher
    Oops. I guess when I made this game freestyle, it became my freestyle, even though I already had one. Vote for it if you like my new picture.
    DZ's game on Underground Kristopher
    114 other people beat you using the same route. Sorry.
    Tried to eat a snowflake, but it landed on his nose instead: :*)
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Thanks for fixing it. I hope it never happens again.
    Vin's game on Pipe Universe Vin
    What do u think the time is without a terrible ending?
    Vin's game on Vanilla Sky Vin
    wheel detached at the end
    BikeOrDie - sub10 ...lol
    I like this level pack. A few of them were easy enough to get under 10 seconds relatively easily, but a few of them took many tries to finally find the secret thing to do to get it under 10 seconds. (Such as giant steps)
    BikeOrDie - sub10 Tabs
    I like this levelpack.
    Managed ro get all games under 10 secs. but some
    are very tricky and need many attempts.

    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Tabs
    How do you join it ?
    Do you have to have a google account ?

    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    I haven't seen anybody else do it this way. I like.
    rick's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    u suk
    Report a bug samsells
    how do I install levelpacks
    what do I have to do to play additional levelpacks. I download them and sync them with my palm but when I select "more" from the levels section is says no level pack installed
    Levelpack Explorer samsells
    I cant figure out how to play levels I download. After I sync them to my palm and open "more" levels it says no level packs installed
    rick's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    He is either a very slow beginner, or a ghost.
    how do I install levelpacks Kristopher
    They have to be installed in the internal memory. You can use a custom launcher or RsrcEdit to see if the levelpacks are installed.
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    I suppose it is fairly original. But if I had seen your route while I still had the demo, I might have tried it instead.

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    3D Mines released Kristopher
    My Review is Posted at PDArcade! I gave it 9/10, but with some improvements, I might have given it 10/10.

    http://www.pdarcade.com/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=289
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Please release another levelpack soon; otherwise I will never beat Oliver.
    PrayeR's game on U Jump Kristopher
    This looks fun; I think I'll try it.
    Loop 3 Time Trial Kristopher
    I don't like this level, either. You could do the beginning right 100 times (each time would take 30 seconds), and not even complete this level. That's sort of what I did, except without perfecting the beginning. It is probably harder on low-res, because you see even less of the invisible line.
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Web Site Traffic Jam :)
    I think the web site is slowing down with all that it has to do. Sometimes when I submit multiple comments at once (in two different windows), only one of the comments will get posted. I have about 500 games on-line, but only about 100 are needed for the Time Trial. Maybe you could automate the removal games if they are not your record times, are not in the Freestyle Competition, and do not have any comments. Also, that bug we saw a few days ago needs some investigation.
    how do I install levelpacks Kristopher
    FYI, I am unable to beam levelpacks from the Zodiac to the Palm Vx. I beamed them with RsrcEdit, but the Vx said it did not have a program to use the levelpacks.
    Levelpack Explorer Powerman
    Found a "new" Levelpack=> http://pdassi.de/product.php?prod_id=27939&xsearch=Bike%20or%20Die
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 RogueNine
    not bad, I did this a while ago. see my movie here http://bike.toyspring.com/movie.php?g=7527
    Multiplayer Daniel121
    IR does not make sense because you need to be in line, and it is quite impossible to stay in the same position during the whole game. I've posted this a loooooong time ago, so when is sumtin gonna happen?? btw, can you give me some kind of reward if the idea goes through...lol...thanks... keep up the good work. Make the best game on palm even better!
    Ideas ...lol
    Level Making Tips
    There are lotsa levels ouy there right? Some good, some bad, some ok, some boring, some big, etc. But what really makes a good level pack? What makes a level good in general? I think there are several things a person must know before they make a level.

    1)Watch the size! Levels don't have to take up the whole area in Bike or Design. Better yet, don't ever do that. The smaller a level, usually the better the level. Large levels are bad for many reasons. First, they take forever to beat. Second, the load time can be painful. Finally, if you die near the end, you have to start ALL over. Though there is a limit to how small a level should be. They really shouldn't be any smaller the Bottle, just for times sake (The bottle is a good example, look at how close the times are!)

    2)Simplicity is freakin' sweet. Don't try to make a level as complex as the Chaos Theory. Try to keep it simple. The way a rider should go should be pretty obvious. If the person has to choose between 5 ways to start the level out, then the level will seem intimidating and will therefore be less fun. Short and sweet: make it simple!

    3)Difficulty. Yeah you can have some hard levels, but in a levelpack, try to disperse them so beginners can actually get through the whole level pack. Unless you design a level pack to go from easy slowly to hard through out the levels, try to spread the hard levels out. Don't have every level a hard level, unless you design it to be the most annoying level pack on earth.

    4)Fun fun fun. Make the levels fun! Try to add certain obstacles that challenge the person who is playing the level! Challenges make the game more fun. If you make a level really easy and boring, then no one will want to play it.

    5)Secrets. Please do not try to make a level like Underground that has a secret way to do it ON PURPOSE. Im pretty sure that Sz didn't make the level just for that purpose. Its more fun to let the players try to find cool ways to do the level that you didn't intend them to be able to do in the first place.
    On a different note, don't make the level impossible unless they do some wacko thing that only you knew about. Say you put (on purpose) some awesome thing in you level that allows you to make your bike go through the ground and win, but is only possible if you do some crazy button mashing. That does not make a level fun, because no one else besides you knows how to do it. Dont do it.

    If anyone else has other suggestions to make levels good and fun, please post and get your ideas out.
    Vin's game on Pipe Universe Louis
    53
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    This game isn't that great, and others have done it. Why are you all voting for it?
    Level Making Tips Kristopher
    But sometimes, it is fun to play a big level if it is easy.
    Kristopher's game on Castle Kristopher
    Here is the easy way. I tried the other ways to get past the catapult forever, but this one is much easier. You don't have to touch the lower catapult ball at all, just hold the brake on the first one.
    Schneider's game on Castle Schneider
    Yah this is a good lvl i dont see whts wrong with the arrows just dont touch em so much.... Heres my replay hope it helps
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    everyones done it, but this is in the top ten and no ones done it in the top 30 so eat it KRIS
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Vin
    when you hit to get the 4th flag is it faster to hit front or back wheel? (this is back, mine is front)
    Level Making Tips ...lol
    Yeah.. but still... i mean so many big levels are really freakin hard.. those are the bad ones
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    That is why it is so good, not just the fact it does that cool thing, but its really fast too.
    Medals by Country ...lol
    I wonder if all those people are actually from all those different countries..

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    jasonjerome's game on U Jump ...lol
    Man you are freakin killing this game.. how are you so good?
    Alex V.'s game on Double Sprint Louis
    NICEEEEE
    Lee's game on Double Sprint Louis
    WTF everyone is like "oh 1000 times is soo much" but even tough everyone in the top ten has played every level over 1000 times
    Freestyle Competition Vin
    umm what happened to my freestyle?
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Thiago
    Tabs, would you like an invite???
    What's your e-mail address???
    Schneider's game on Castle Kristopher
    Maybe I will steal this medal if I have time.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    ...Said the guy with the funny teeth. Vega did the same thing and is number 12 in this level, so you are WRONG! PS. your thumb-print hair looks funny.
    This game is no longer in the Freestyle competition, probably because Vin submitted another game as freestyle.
    Vin's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    Here's Vin's new Freestyle. I've been pretty close to do this; I'll get it soon.
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Kristopher
    Oooh! Can I join!?
    kristopherwindsor@yahoo.com
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    Ooops. I don't want this in the Freestyle competition. It is very boring.
    Freestyle Competition MunkYBoY
    umm well i think someone got suspicious about how you got 30someodd votes that quick.
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    A worthy Freestyle if I ever saw one.
    Vin's game on Pipe Universe Vin
    Sry some mistake this accidenatlly got selected, not so great 7-8 seconds can be easily shaved at the end.
    Congratulations! Time Trial monkeydave
    Still waiting Mishka. Almost 2 months now...
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    I have finally tuned to the dark side and taken the shortcut!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    I have finally turned to the darkside and taken the shortcut!
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    i must suck at this game, i cant beat all of the hall of fame levels. =(
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Don't worry. It took me a few months.
    rachman!'s game on Big Cheese Vin
    u can probabaly medal if u accelerate after flag 4
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Louis - mine's #12 and only .02 seconds behind.

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    Roel's game on Underground JPUI
    What Palm did you use to do this?

    My Zire 71 Nav. buttons are too hard to press.
    Roel's game on Underground JPUI
    =============
    EDIT:

    Hurts my thumb too.
    jasonjerome's game on U Jump Vin
    Evrybody with bronze medals hold on tight this guys gonna bump u
    Vin's game on Touch Bricks Vin
    Can't nail the end, this is a great run minus end
    Lee's game on Equisplateral Kristopher
    The fast route is cheating, and it's very hard to do. But this isn't like Bottle; it's like Downhill Madness, in both the route and competition.
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    Thx vega looks like the qtrpipe is where i beat u not by much tho
    Vin's game on The Well Vin
    Hung too long at beginning...
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    my only top 100 game! took me a thousand tries!
    Lee's game on Equisplateral Kristopher
    I meant it is NOT cheating.
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    Is the next version still coming out soon?
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    This isn't the best place to start if you want a game in the top 100. Every game in the Summer Pack would be in the top 100.
    rachman!'s game on Spike Cave Vin
    YOU HAVE RACHS OF STEEL
    rachman!'s game on Spike Cave Vin
    I apologize someone (im not going to say who) found out my password while they were at my house. sory on their behalf
    Congratulations! Time Trial Mishka
    hey monkey i just started playing again so dont trip man i will smoke you and i will be looking at you in my rearview mirror
    roberto.cr's game on Big Cheese roberto.cr
    I could have gone on for hours, but got tired of it =`P
    roberto.cr's game on Riding School roberto.cr
    I've only uploaded this one because I really don't know how I could get the left red flag like that =`D
    torrobinson's game on Big Cheese roberto.cr
    Did the same, but upstairs. It's easy to get it perfect(just hold it and it'll go on forever) there, just give it a look:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=25201
    =`]
    roberto.cr's game on Big Cheese roberto.cr
    btw, I know some other people did this already, but I just wanted to point out its possible in this other place with ease =`D
    rachman!'s game on Malysz DZ
    ur face is pretty, IM me hotdog
    Biker's Cafe Luzi82
    14.95
    Finally my money is spent for this good.
    It worth.

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    Report a bug Vin
    Deleted/Restore Problem
    I moved bod to an sd card and deleted from handheld and everything got lost so i tried going to archives and instaling using palmone quick install but it installed each recording file as an application a.k.a. i cant watch them, since then iv gotten a bunch of better recordings but i dk what to do to combine the two and how to make incoming data from my computer install into BOD instead of just the palm.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Ridiculously difficult. Forget 1000 tries - more like 3000++?? tries. Really wanted 17:30 or better for a medal tho
    I can't upload my records Vin
    Id go into my profile and 'unauthorized games' they may be lying there if they exist on the website but do not affect that lvl's standing.
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    I played this forever when I had the demo, but most of my games were attempting the long route.
    Played (this level only): 5702
    Completed: 243
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    In just the last six weeks, I have moved up from #51 to #23! Fear Me!!
    Kristopher's game on Zip-Zap Kristopher
    This is boring, but vote for it anyway.
    Ideas Kristopher
    Freestyle Game Finding
    It would be really nice if you could find a player's Freestyle game by going to his profile and then clicking on something from there. Like this:
    <a href=allfreestyle>Freestyle Competition</a> - <a href=thisplayersfreestyle>#26/42</a>
    Deleted/Restore Problem Kristopher
    This is actually how Palm programs are supposed to work. Customer support at Astraware said many programs create multiple IDs so high scores and registeration info are saved when a game is deleted, but that means leaving files from some games you are never going to reinstall. The moral of the story is just to never delete Bike or Die. And the PRC is only 300-400K. The rest of the space taken is due to recordings, which would take way too long to process from an SD card if they were moved there.
    rachman!'s game on Malysz Kristopher
    That's not funny. You can just leave now.
    3D Mines released Kristopher
    I'm not necessarily saying it would be worth $300 to put music into this game, but I found a really nice MOD music engine at
    indus3.org
    Apparently it can play 30,000 songs from
    www.modarchive.com
    Aleksey's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    So the SuperCritic would rather vote for a Freestyle without talent?
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    I have a saved recording that shows my tire crossing through the flag (can even see the flag thru the wheel spokes) at 16:xx and it did not give it to me. Urrgh! How do you know how many times you played?
    rachman!'s game on Malysz DZ
    kris-to-pher! gettin it ON
    theONE's game on Big Cheese Vin
    Jerry! Jerry!
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/bike/eggs.html
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Nice! This is almost a carbon copy of Oliver's run. The only difference is the end landing. Looks like your previous 12:34 time wasn't a fluke after all lol!
    PrayeR's game on Cave Dweller Smalls
    Thanks for leaving your replay open, this one isn't particularly helpful because this level is pretty straight forward, but your replays have helped me a bunch. Thanks!
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    Took me over 2000 tries!
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    Wow you got the spring without the flip nice job
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Uh oh Vin, what have we done!? Is this going to start a wave?

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    Oliver's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    hey nice game oliver, you should try the bumb trick
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    Man we should hav just stayed secret lol good run tho
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    I doubt we'll see anyone anytime soon doing this... if it really took over 2000 tries :-/
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    ya it really did and vinay i alreasdy knew about the bump.
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    *already
    Tabs's game on Riding School Andrew Ladd
    i'm glad somebody took oliver's gold on this level its been there fo a while
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Thanks bro - It worked! I have the 650 so I just typed it in. This level - over 11,000 times total including full course routine. Most of the other levels I'm at about 5,000+.
    Tabs's game on Riding School Vega
    Sheesh! Smooth as butter. You tore it up.
    Time Trial Champions Andrew Ladd
    Hey kristopher in 1 day i moved up from 500 to 214 fear me!
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    that really isnt hard if you just beat all the levels
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    Wow! I really didn't think you could do it, but this is impressive. The next level of competition is in when Oliver's gold medals start disappearing. Keep up the good work but don't play Konecnik Down.
    Tabs's game on Riding School Kristopher
    It's amazing that Oliver has already lost two gold medals this week. One of the overlooked parts to this level is going up the hill to the right of the finish flag; that has now been perfected.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    On my first day of time submitting, I moved up about 800 spots, so all Andrew Ladd has done well is RSP2. The game seems hardest before you beat all of the levels, but it still takes lots of playing to move up after that.
    Flip that flipper... Kristopher
    This is too short for the Hall of Fame.
    Shelf Kristopher
    Is this too short for the Hall of Fame? Please post here so we don't get another Bottle level.
    XA Software L1 Kristopher
    I'm guessing the Bike starts on the left, and if I have that right, this level is too short for the Hall of Fame because you could brake on the ceiling and get both flags without landing in about 5 seconds.
    XA Software LP 2 Kristopher
    Looks like another Equisplateral level. It's too short for the Hall of Fame.
    Same as lvl 11, but, What the??? Kristopher
    Quote: "but, What the???"

    My thoughts exactly. O_0
    Level Making Tips Kristopher
    The level secrets make the levels fun for people with multiple skill levels: for Underground and Teapot, there are easy and hard routes.
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    I have commented on the levels that I do not want in the Hall of Fame because they were too easy.
    Since it has been so long since an addition was made to the Hall of Fame, please add some other levels to this pack from the "ZodiacGamer..." levelpack.
    Also, please change ALL of the color schemes for the levels that have green grass and blue sky; I am tired of that color scheme.

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    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    That's a lot for 5 levels, but it paid off. I have played over 70,000 games total; I'll bet that's a record. I will update that page soon because it is the only one other than the forum with this information. Also there are two more things you can type: "i" gives technical information, and "icanread", when typed at the intro screen, lets you play that level.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Tough level...I think I'm done....
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Just don't plan on scoring so well on every level; it will take forever once you are playing all... about 100.
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 AVD
    nice job. you should thank me for giving you 3 votes
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    you too?
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    Thanks
    Kristopher's game on Tricky Kristopher
    If you can't get the flag, turn around and jump off a cliff.
    Kristopher's game on Hank Chill Kristopher
    I know this has been done before on Palmstamp.com, but it was completely unintentional here and looks way better. Please vote.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    The competition on this level is getting out of hand. It shows how many players could be champions if they just played more (or BOUGHT THE GAME!!)
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    what happened to actual freestyle? a freestyle run becomes not freestyle when everyone else does it to. a game like roguenine is real freestyle. this is just another level being beaten quickly. IT'S CRAP and i dont have a good freestyle or medal to say it. you all know it sucks.
    theONE's game on Big Cheese MunkYBoY
    sounds like a bunch of 2 year olds without much knowledge about anything
    A small update - v1.3c Sz
    oh no, i'm late again this is because i'm too easily distracted by new ideas
    this time it was because of this: Video Jigsaw

    (but it is almost finished and then i can go back to the bike )
    A small update - v1.3c You Qi
    wow! I like Video Jigsaw!
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    Hee hee, this is funny. Will the live video work with the Zire 72s?
    A small update - v1.3c Sz
    i'd like to support zire camera but it is hard to develop this kind of applications without testing on the real device.
    on the other hand, the zire camera API is theoretically the same as in treo, so maybe it will *just* work
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    Oh. Now that I'm on my Desktop, I see it says "should work with the Zire."
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    Instant customer support- impressive. I could beta test a demo if you'd like. Or is it freeware?
    A small update - v1.3c Sz
    hey, you found your old zire? that's great expect a mail!

    btw. i saw you on palmgear yesterday
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    It's a funny story- unless you're me. Apparently my 8 year old brother took it because he wanted to give it to me for Christmas. *Sigh* So I have both now, and I also got my 1GB SD card with it, so now I have 1472MB of memory- 1GB + 256MB + 128MB + 64 MB total RAM. Also, I bought a Fossil Palm OS watch on Ebay last night for $40.
    If anyone wants to see my free set of Palm pictures at PalmGear, please do so.
    http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodid=117649
    A small update - v1.3c MunkYBoY
    holy crap! yet another revolutionary game by Sz. (unless of course someone else has done it) it looks crazy cool. now if i just had a palm pilot with a camera

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    A small update - v1.3c Sz
    OMG! :-O nice christmas gift
    Level Making Tips ...lol
    I mean't not to put them there on purpose. Sure they can make more than one way, but purposly putting in a secret?
    Level Making Tips Kristopher
    It doesn't matter if they were put there on purpose or not; everyone will find the best possible route eventually.
    A small update - v1.3c Kristopher
    I'm not sure if the word is "revolutionary," but it's games like these that show how great Palm OS is. As far as I know, this is the only game that uses a camera throughtout.
    Kristopher's game on Hellraider Kristopher
    It's funny how things change. This was one of my best games when I submitted it. Now it's one of the worst, although it's something of a freestyle game.
    jasonjerome's game on Me vs. The Gravity Andrew Ladd
    How?????????
    Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    theONE you comment on everything with swares are you on crack???
    DavidKing's game on Sinus Mountains Andrew Ladd
    wow
    Justy's game on The Right Way Andrew Ladd
    why don't you use the fast way?????
    Levelpack Explorer aurican
    when are you going to make another levelpack for the time trial championship??
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    There are plans for a new level pack in the Biker's Cafe. Please see what you think of the levels so they can become official.
    bjtj's game on U Jump Kristopher
    This is a nice route.
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    AWESOME RUN ANDREW
    Tabs's game on Konecnik Andrew Ladd
    can someone tell me how to do the 4th flip?
    Oliver's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    wheni go offf the first part where you catch yoour front wheel and flip my back wheel goes right through the next floor can anyone help?
    Oliver's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    back wheel sry
    flip's game on palmstamp.com Andrew Ladd
    i'm getting dizzy *CRASH*
    rachman!'s game on Spike Cave Vin
    JK lol ur rachs are HUGE
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    when i first started playing i was like 250-300 and then i played until i beat all lvls adn i jumped to like 40 then i just play my worst records just play and ull od better [Kris this took me bout 6-7 min u know y]
    -Schnei
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    "ull od better"?

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    flip's game on palmstamp.com Kristopher
    This is like my Freestyle.
    DavidKing's game on Shark! DavidKing
    DavidKing's game on Fruits DavidKing
    DavidKing's game on Home Sweet Home DavidKing
    opened.
    DavidKing's game on Shark! Kristopher
    Wow. This is awesome. It's a medal you will keep.
    DavidKing's game on Home Sweet Home Kristopher
    That's an interesting start. I rode up the wall at the left. I wonder how much faster this start is.
    The Veenk's game on Underground Vega
    Probably #14 at 18:20
    Andrew Ladd's game on The Right Way Andrew Ladd
    i like this one
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Andrew Ladd
    this is no freestyle its crap! TOTAL CRAP!!!!
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    hey munkyboy flips aren't freestyle RogueNine is CRAP!!! I could do that 10 times in a minute!!
    Lee's game on Touch Bricks Andrew Ladd
    not bad
    Vin's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    ya that cost you
    :<
    Vin's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    DavidKing's game on Shark! DavidKing
    Another kind "Under the small fish"

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=42608
    DavidKing's game on Hill DavidKing
    DavidKing's game on Hill DavidKing
    If touch flag directly finally, it will be 20.XX
    DavidKing's game on Shark! DavidKing
    At the beginning slow for about 1 second, so 21.XX is possible.
    Levelpack Explorer aurican
    biker's cafe???
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    then do it and let me see it. recreate roguenine's freestyle game or shut the hell up
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way MunkYBoY
    dude, now youre just being a douche bag about it

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    DavidKing's game on Shark! DavidKing
    It's very, very cool!
    Ideas MacGuru
    Level based ground friction?
    Could it be possible to set ground friction?

    So if someone wanted to make an ice level, they can make the ground look like ice, and lower the friction level so that you slide a bit.

    Just another way to increase / decrease the difficulty.
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community MacGuru
    I would love an invite as well... I would love to join the bike or die community!
    DavidKing's game on Home Sweet Home лÀñ
    Good
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    no offense.. flipping isn't that hard...... and if this isnt freestyle why is roels freestyle? yeah its cool but in your terms it isnt really freestyle..
    DavidKing's game on Shark! Kristopher
    Impressive.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    - And your not in the top 10 any more; now you are on the same page as I am.
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    Is this a new route? I accelerated on that little bump after the obstacle.
    Level based ground friction? Kristopher
    It might be great for version 2.0, but right now we are still awaiting a better playing environment- not new challenges. But playing with different physics might keep us perpetually confused. The way it is right now, you can play one level better by practicing on another level; this would change that.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    yeah, roel's was amazing at the time because he discovered a completely different way to beat the level but now its just old and every one else has done it and even improved it. this "freestyle" isnt unique. theres nothing CrAzy about the physics. in fact it looks just like the other games like this. unless you can point out what makes this game so unique then im never going to vote for it
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    how would that be a new route?
    Level based ground friction? MunkYBoY
    i do like the idea though. maybe it could be an option that you could turn on and off.
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    I accelerated on that little bump after the obstacle.
    Level based ground friction? Kristopher
    But you can't turn it off if you need it to get records for the Hall of Fame. :?
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Yes. Click "Forum" and then you will see the link.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    He was referring to going through the ground when he said "Crazy Physics."
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Andrew Ladd
    nice
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    its rather hard to notice, i zoomed in on it and i still cant tell.
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 MunkYBoY
    well all the best times have people going through the ground like that
    Medals by Country MunkYBoY
    aww, i want to contribute a medal to the U.S.

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    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    i believe its "you'll do better"
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Thiago
    kristopher: i sent an invite to you!

    macguru: what is your e-mail address?
    Levelpack Explorer MunkYBoY
    everyone should check out Kristopher's level pack, its at www.palmgear.com i just came across it and downloaded it. i have yet to play it but i will soon.
    Report a bug wbw
    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays
    When I have sound enabled on the Palm T/X, I have a problem with the bike movements stopping for a split second. This happens several times during a run. It doesn't happen when I have the sound turned off. Any ideas? Thanks.
    Vin's game on SinkInToDrinks Vin
    first ttc medal
    Nicolas's game on Big Cheese Andrew Ladd
    nice route i used it to beat it my first time thanx!
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    its quiker smrt 1 notice it in mine srry just to let u know thogh
    Master KO's Levels Vin
    I agree these small lvls r good it took me a month to get 10th in standard and it has taken me 1 week for this
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    But others like Vin avoided that hill completely and jump up a bit...
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Eureka!! Gold!!
    It has taken me forever, but I finally got it.
    Please vote. This is my Freestyle.
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    Vin lost his bronze... interesting...
    Konecnik Time Trial Kristopher
    OMG! This was just an average run and I am already @ #5! I'm taking this medal next. It's possible to take... probably two seconds off of my time.
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    [begin victory music]
    First off, I would like to thank PalmOne for this award, secondly I would like to thank Tapwave, and thirdly Sz.
    It's a great run, isn't it?
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Kristopher
    I was so close to PrayeR, I thought his time was almost perfect, but I guess not. Btw, I played this on my Zire- it's easier there because I am so used to this level on it.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    My medal took PrayeR down to #2. But we're up to #8!
    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays Kristopher
    Has anyone else had this problem?
    Master KO's Levels Kristopher
    Well, Vin is just too lucky; he'll be passing me soon if I don't do something fast!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    That makes more sense.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Yes, please try my levels, which will also be listed here soon. 74 downloads already! I wonder why those people aren't all over here.
    http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodid=117929
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Kristopher
    Thanks! Orkut is great.

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    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    This is like ladds run, less power breaking through the bump and u stayed nearer to the grnd
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    It's sort of like his, but he didn't accelerate there, either.
    Freestyle Competition MunkYBoY
    looks like somebody lost some votes there
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    ...lol did this and all the other upcoming medals and under five spots, ...lol IS THE MASTER OF THIS LEVEL, he gets under 12 20s on command
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue Louis
    that end was SLOW
    Master KO's Levels Vin
    dont worry itll be a while till i do ors summer and you qis cuz these r too fun
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Say thank you vinay...
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    ...lol
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice Vin
    i think the trick is jumping off the mamoth and flipping to snag the flag, am i right?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    nice run
    your problem was when you stopped before goin up the quater pipe
    but sill a good run
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    almost a copy of my run
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    louis, he still cant beat me, when he beats me all say he's the master of the level
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Umm.....that's cool and everything that LOL can do this level well, but it's probably best for the integrity of the game if every posts their own scores...otherwise seriously what's the point? Just a thought...eh?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Heh yeah, but i think i mightve died if i hadnt leaned forward, oh well... ill keep trying
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Well actually they were beggin me for it, and i also got DZ a 12,16 but i swear i was just doing that for fun... i picked it up and played it once and WAMMY
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    vega-peer pressure lol
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    Andrew Ladd, ...lol, DZ, and Vin and AVD all go to the same school and were schooling, its only a matter of time before he gets the gold, but hes gonna take over the top ten and make ghosts
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Louis
    ...lol is the MASTER of this level
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    well i just accellerated and didnt stop or lean at all
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice MunkYBoY
    well if you could somehow do that then you could get the fastest time. ive tried but with no luck

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    devices and controls ackmondual
    Tungsten T3:
    up = accelerate
    down = brake
    left = lean left
    right = lean right
    center = flip
    Memo or Notepad (top right) = map
    Tasks (bottom right) = pause

    Zire 71:
    up = accelerate
    down = brake
    left = lean left
    right = lean right
    center = flip
    Memo or Notepad (right most) = map
    Tasks (center right) = pause

    Zodiac 2:
    R (shoulder button) = accelerate
    L (shoulder button) = brake
    red PIM (left) = lean left
    yellow PIM (right) = right left
    blue PIM (top) = flip
    center = map
    function = pause

    Zoom out - see more area ackmondual
    I third this idea. I would like to see this implemented. If this could be done even on low-res devices all the better. On hi-res+ devices a less detailed, blurry biker but with more view would be awesome.

    This game was a turn off because of how much space the biker took up on the screen and how little space you could see around you. I actually thought the game would be like the Macromedia Flash playbacks on this site.... you could see the WHOLE level or ALOT of it at once. Before the 'anytime map' feature, gameplay levels were either about memorizing them or playing in front of your PC so you could see the map preview there. For me, the Map Button was the game's saving grace.

    While we're talking about the map, would like to see 2 other things added to the map:
    -location of mines
    -to scale objects appropriately.... this was already requested by someone else on this forum
    Ideas ackmondual
    More uses for leftover buttons
    I primarily use a T|T3. Assuming ALL buttons are assigned as of v1.3c. we could use the extra 2 buttons for alot of good. If possible, even use the VR button on a T|T3, and any extra hardware buttons on specific specific models of this game as well.

    Some suggestions:
    -screen rotate
    -restart level (requested before)
    -toggle sound low/high/mute volume (alr half suggested)
    -toggle full screen (peronsally, this wouldn't be needed if screen rotate was implemented)

    If perhaps all of them and let the users choose the functions they want mapped
    Zoom out - see more area Kristopher
    Well, as long as it would be optional, it would be a great idea! Btw, I suggested that, Ackmondual.
    Louis's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    If you want to team up, then all use the same player name. It's not fair this way. But maybe I'll get gold to annoy all of you.
    More uses for leftover buttons Kristopher
    You want a hard key just for rotating the screen? Why don't you play more on your Zodiac instead??
    devices and controls Kristopher
    I got my Fossil Wrist PDA now- it will run the game, but it is too hard to play well, and the Rocker switch is not used.
    Accelerate- button at top right
    Brake- button at bottom right
    Balance- tap screen left and right
    Flip- tap bottom
    Wow... it's very small...
    Sena's Machine ackmondual
    Wasn't easy to find this level here, since on the Palm it's just called "My Levels".

    This level certainly takes many tries. It's not as hard as it could be since the hardest part is right at the beginning. Would've given it a 5 if you had to navigate a long passage and/or overcome another difficult hurdle before that "ET style leap".
    devices and controls You Qi
    Sony Clie UX50
    PgUp/Down: Accelerate/Brake
    JogUp/JogDown: Balance Left/Right
    JogPush: Turn(Flip)

    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    I think a 26.xx is possible but it would take a perfect game. Until I lose this medal, I'm done with this.
    Finish Kristopher
    In case you hadn't yet noticed, this is not the custom bitmap in this level. They are both TBMP 450, so that's why they got confused on this site. But if you are playing in grayscale, you won't see the picture well, anyway.
    Finish Kristopher
    And where did the middle of the tree go??
    Kristopher
    How do you guys like these levels? With 250 downloads from Palm Gear, I would at least like some feedback.
    Chairs Kristopher
    Yes, I cloned and rotated these chairs ONE by ONE! :gasp:
    Bottle Time Trial Kristopher
    Quote:
    Note: This level is no longer included in the global ranking calculation!
    ---------
    Is it still used for Master KO's level ranking, though?
    Finish Kristopher
    Now the tree is a big green rectangle. I've seen this with other pictures, too, recently? :?
    Secret Kristopher
    Do you guys like this one? There is a reason it is called "Secret."
    ...lol
    These levels are okay... they arent very interesting or extremely exciting. There really isn't any <i>zing</i> that marter kos or standard levels have. They need to have something that sets them apart. They are high quality, just not very fun..
    Kristopher
    But what about level 6? Did you try going backwards, first? If you want some "unusual" levels, then wait for my next level pack.
    Sinus Mountains Kristopher
    Do you guys like this version? Has anyone beaten it? (I haven't yet)

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    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 monkeydave
    Yeah, it probably is new. Unless you start considering that there are over a thousand registered users and this is a free level so add to that thousands more, many of which have played this level thousands of times. But no, being royalty and all you are probably an innovator so I'd guess, odds are, it is new.
    ...lol
    That sounds better. While these levels are high in quality, they lack the funness of other levels... yeah the unusual ones are more fun.. less generic is better
    DavidKing's game on Cloudwalk Andrew Ladd
    Great game i just cant seem to get a great time on this i dont know what im doing wrong!
    3D Mines released ...lol
    Im hooked on this game. Everyone in my class likes it. It made an ok game for the computer a super addicting game for the palm. I have a Zire 72 and it has a very nice frame rate. I like all the effects you added too. Nice job Sz
    Konecnik Down Time Trial ...lol
    Wow both konecniks have 23'58s.... crazy
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com DavidKing
    9.5
    DavidKing's game on Cloudwalk DavidKing
    Andrew Ladd, you still have much improved space, see my reply, Come on!
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    umm... yay?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Woohoo newish way to do it.. key to 11:XX game
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial ...lol
    Found key to 11:xx game i think
    Sinus Mountains MunkYBoY
    difficult in my opinion
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Yeah I found it too. I'll land it soon but Holy Crrrappa it's tough if we're talking about the same thing.
    The Veenk's game on Underground Vavan
    hey guys, how to download this Veenk's movie by web pro(T3)?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    I've only gotten it 3 times so far... 12'04, 12'08, and 12'12... none were as good as this one. If messed up towards the end on this one a little bit, so if i didnt, i would had like 12'00 or 11'58
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Andrew Ladd
    wow nice run greg
    Time Trial Champions Andrew Ladd
    hey kristopher im gettin better and i finally beat all of the levels im almost in the top 100 in time trial but im number 59 in standard
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    Am I royalty because of the gold medal, or because my last name is Windsor? It's a fast route, so it's not like all 1000 players could have fit this into games.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    The longer you stay on this level, the longer until you beat me in the Time Trial.
    Konecnik Down Time Trial Kristopher
    But that's just until I get gold on Konecnik.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    But you are way down there.... That was a short lived Gold.

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    The Veenk's game on Underground Kristopher
    You can't view Flash files through Palm OS.
    Austin's Levels of Doom Kristopher
    I almost didn't see these levels. Downloading....
    Kristopher
    But some need to be good for the Time Trial. Has anyone played Secret yet??
    Smiley Time Trial Kristopher
    One lucky play, and YES! But there is a distinct lack of competition. Mata is nine seconds slower and in the top 10??
    Tatra Time Trial Kristopher
    Help! I've got a time of 1:02, but I don't see it here. I tried resubmitting it, but it says it already exists. I authorized all of my games, but I can't find it among the 860 games I submitted!! :{
    Kristopher's game on Smiley Kristopher
    Funny, no??
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    Something weird happened. I now have TWO freestyle entries!! Click on "Newest First", and they are both there!! It's probably because they were played on two devices. :?

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=42892
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43135
    Kristopher's game on Tatra Kristopher
    A funny ending...
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    lol that's funny you put 11'58 like it's a 60 second clock or something. Don't you mean 11'98? Or do you really think 11'58 is possible on this level?
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue PMD
    I haven't seen anyone use this path (maybe all the secret games were done this way). I pretty much could not do the way others have used consistantly, so I found another way. There are a couple of ways to land this. Not sure which is the fastest just yet.
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Kristopher
    It's a great game, but that start slowed you down a whole lot. I tried that jump over the Finish flag before, but I could never do it.
    Tatra Time Trial Kristopher
    Also, I had 20.xx on "Hank Chill," but it disappeared. I had two pages of unauthorized games, so I checked the first 25 to authorize them, and authorized the device. I clicked "Authorize", and then there where no unauthorized games. Where did the second page of them go??
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    Nice job, iv been trying this for a few weeks but i didnt get the key of accellerating, amazing run has potential for like 30-31
    3D Mines released ackmondual
    Yeah, Astraware makes many interesting games, but not a whole lotta 'em r original. When you load up an AW game, or just looking at the game on their site after clicking the "more" link, pay attention to the developer logos and names. If you see something like AW and another logo, then the game was originally made by that dev (PopCap, GameHouse Pazzazz, Sandbox, Binoteq, Cold River Studios) but ported by AW.

    @Kristopher
    Not defending AW, but it's true. When AW ports games to PDA, they have licensing agreements with other devs. These agreements lay out what AW can and can't do when they port games. They need permission in order to stray from or add to those agreements. Next time, consider also posting on the PopCap's forum as well at the source.

    Price is also influenced by PopCap and co. AFAIK, but I could be wrong. AW did vehemently defend Mazera's $30 price tag. I think it's a great game, but not worth the $30 IMO. And yes, I know alot about the hard work that goes into developing for a platform that's more difficult to develop for than PPC, and for a market that's only a fraction of GBA, PSP, consoles, or PSP individually. If PDA gaming devs could get away charging $50 for PDA games, they still wouldn't make much of a profit in comparison due to the sheer gaming market of other platforms.

    Even so, I've noticed how seasoned PDA gamers will only buy games and software only if they're on sale.... especially from games from AW since they send out promos (exclusive and public) to their existing customer base (BTW, AW should still have their Hogmanay sale going on. At least 50% off their older games)
    3D Mines released ackmondual
    For some of the default layouts on expert mode. On my T|T3:
    hi-res.... 38 - 45 fps
    hi-res+ landscape.... 15 fps
    hi-res+ portrait.... 28 - 35 fps

    z71 beginner shapes:
    hi-res.... 25 - 41 fps

    zod2 beginner shapes:
    hi-res.... 35 - 45 fps
    hi-res+ landscape.... 22 - 29 fps
    hi-res+ portrait.... 25 - 30 fps

    zod2 beginner shapes with music in background:
    hi-res.... 16 - 22 fps
    hi-res+ landscape.... 13 - 16 fps
    hi-res+ portrait.... 12 - 19 fps
    devices and controls ackmondual
    man, I will not envy our descendants who think playing Doom on a wrist computer is cool
    More uses for leftover buttons ackmondual
    I got my zod2 later on. By now, I've alr played through ALOT of the game on my T|T3. IIRC, your progress is saved in the Palm "Saved prefs" or "unsaved prefs". U can't just copy those 2 files over, and there's no utility I know of that'll let you extract and copy individual records in Un/Saved prefs over. I will *NOT* replay levels that I've spent so much time completing.

    Besides, zods not having a dedicated hard button for screen rotation also presents the same issue that the T|T3 and other hi-res+ devices have. Having to do alot of tapping to bring up the appropriate menus and buttons.
    Many new ideas ackmondual
    I like the obstacles blowing up. If not blowing up upon contact, at the very least, there should be be some visual event. I usually play BoD when I'm not supposed to so the audio is usually mute as well. As of now, the only way to know for sure whether or not you hit a mine or just crashed into solid formation is through the audio. That actually gives me another idea. From the unique sound of the audio when u hit a mine, how about the mine sticks out its tongue and mocks ya

    If you replace the biker's head with something of your own, game play has to be retained, else user be barred from high score submissions. It'd be one up if users replace the default head with an "invisible" pixel head and easily crunch through low clearance territory.

    I have never touched the BoD level editor, but I figured that's what was happening with those visual "doodads". I agree with this as well. Only cause for concern is ppl who abuse this by putting in "inappropriate" stuff like shwasticas and penises (which in truth these don't offend ME). Don't know if level packs have to be pre-approved prior to distribution, but we'll let the devs worry about this.

    I thought the game seemed slow sometimes by 'human perception'. All on perception. It's physics based, but more like physics based 'on the moon' which could play tricks on what ppl may be used to as well.

    Don't give rat's ass about submissions, but that's only my opinion

    Going by your response to my other post, now I know "obstacles" refers to them mines.

    A better alternative to the to-scale-maps would be keep the current map displays, but draw a rectangle on top that map to indicate what the current area the Palm screen is able to view. Similar to playing RTS games and seeing a white rectangle on the minimap. If the rectangle encircles the ENTIRE map view, then that's one small level, but if another similar looking map has a rectangle that only covers 1/24th of the whole map, then you got alot of ground to cover.

    I do hate maps with invisible line walls or platforms. If switching display to Outline and B&W reveals these, then great. Else, personally, I'm comfy with the current color set for map previews. Damn does TouchBricks such!
    Easter Eggs? ackmondual
    If you already have on-screen Graffiti enabled, you can skip the Toggle Full Screen thing and just input directly on the screen similar to in the Graffiti area.
    Biker's Cafe ackmondual
    What are the top 5 levels you left for last in a level pack?
    Start with the Built In level packs

    Then move on to the other add on packs that ppl also submit their high scores for like SiuLun's Levels, Master KO's Levels, and so on.

    If you got even more in ya, include other level packs as well.

    If possible, include the name of the level pack, name of the level, and the level # so we could find it easier. This would be helpful for those level packs with LOTS of levels like 30+ of them and especially for the other, less popular level packs

    Also, do spill the details and let us know if you ever went back and finished those skipped levels and if u even finished that level pack as of present

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    Biker's Cafe ackmondual
    What levels that were difficult before are now easy beat?
    about how much time or how many tries later did it become easier or a cinch to complete now?
    14.95 ackmondual
    I have a feeling sz could've charged $30 for this game and gotten away with it... a la' Warfare Incorporated
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community ackmondual
    Another BoD forum? Cool. I don't have a Gmail A/C, nor do I want one. Can someone PM me an invite? thanks
    Tips ackmondual
    U shouldn't multitask when playing many other games either, but yeah, this one especially.

    Wow, i thought low-res would make the game run even quicker AND smoother. Figured the quicker part would make it harder to react and control the bike, but it seem sto improve things. I am SOO going to revisit levels that pissed me off before. What is it with low-res+... it runs even smoother than before but not any faster (as also indicated by another poster's request to run the game as fast as their processor allows)

    I kinda disagree with the how pros do it thing. I found that finding my own route was at least half the fun in this game.

    Details look pretty and enhance to your scenic route, but for the of passing the levels, they can also distract your gameplay. They're put in places like in the foreground blocking solid ground, or the background making it hard to see. On maps with "invisible" ground, walls, lines, or other hurdles, or those that blend in with the background, switch the display to B&W and Outline.

    .

    Also, save your own replays as well. Not just those that you completed, but especially those in where you crashed. U'll never notice this when you're too busying playing and concentrating on the game.

    Turn on the option confirm quitting the game prematurely. If not that, disable unused buttons. Very frustrating to accidentally hit another button when you're almost done with a hard level
    More uses for leftover buttons Kristopher
    There is a database for each level pack that records your record times, something like summerpack_result.pdb. You can easily beam and replace these with WinLauncher or ZLauncher.
    Why would you want to run the Zodiac in Portrait mode? Landscape is better for BOD.
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    check out the wall bounce
    congrTS cisenro ridiculouss
    lowers possible
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Andrew Ladd
    nice game but i think VIN did it perfectly and got gold, right Vin???
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Andrew Ladd
    yup...
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Andrew Ladd
    gave u 3 votes
    Time Trial Champions Andrew Ladd
    ya so it was a kid from my school that beat it anyway i really dont care
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Andrew Ladd
    :p
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Andrew Ladd
    ;p
    Andrew Ladd's game on Riding School Andrew Ladd
    0
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible ackmondual
    to get him or someone else to make it public. Or to call him a lier, which isn't the case, but for others, ya never know
    Tips ackmondual
    I was saying that u should look at how the pros do it to improve your time. However, I found it quite fun to trail my own path the first time.
    Biker's Cafe ackmondual
    Sz! Ever consider advertising this game as....
    .... the only low-res+ (240x160) Palm OS game known to existence? Yet another "wow"/"cool" factor there
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 monkeydave
    Your guess is as good as mine on the royalty thing. This was a self-proclamation you made on your website, King Kristopher, which you invite us to check out.
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    9.75
    Vin's game on The Well Andrew Ladd
    PrayeR's game on Finding Mice Andrew Ladd
    i bet rachman did that

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    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays wbw
    Are there any other TX users out there? Would sure like to know if there is a fix for this. Thanks.
    Level based ground friction? MacGuru
    I agree that it would be nice to turn it on and off, but say for "moon" levels, or ice levels... I think it would add more realism to the level that would in turn increase replay IMO.
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community MacGuru
    james.meister@gmail.com
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com DavidKing
    Thanks Smalls, I think that you can do 9.8
    Very Hard MacGuru
    This is probably the EASIEST level in the pack... kind of a mislabel on the level name if you ask me.
    Harder than it looks... MacGuru
    It was actually easier than it looked... but nice pack!
    Medals by Country Vin
    filipinos rule
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Thanks!
    devices and controls Kristopher
    Yeah, but it's a great place for a 144,000 word dictionary. (yes, I have one on there.)
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Kristopher
    Are we scoring each other? I'll give 10/10.
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Kristopher
    If you already have a gmail account, I think you can use it to log in at

    orkut.com

    Then you can search for Bike or Die.
    Tatra Time Trial Kristopher
    I beat 1:02 on Tatra, so I don't need that recoding anymore. #9!!
    Sz! Ever consider advertising this game as.... Kristopher
    "Jack or 100 Ways to BBQ" from indus3.org runs in Landscape mode, but seems pixilated. It might also be low-res+.
    Kristopher's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    Hee hee... I thought that sounded better than President Kristopher or Prince Kristopher. But that was just a title I gave myself.
    14.95 Kristopher
    But I didn't buy Warfare.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    So is that why you moved there?
    What are the top 5 levels you left for last in a level pack? Kristopher
    Cave Dweller and Fear of the Dark were very hard to beat the first time.
    Many new ideas Kristopher
    The Biker's head is just a picture; it isn't even a real circle.
    The Outline mode was my secret for SinkintoDrinks and Loop 2, but the Zodiac doesn't do B&W.
    Tips Kristopher
    But for Pipe Universe, finding a new route can be the most frustrating thing.
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    end looks cool tho probly hard

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    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Vin
    can i hav an invite nayavin@gmail
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Almost landed 11.xx with this new swooping double flip...just need to keep it lower on the jump but it's tough to nail...
    Vin's game on Moon Madness Vin
    opened
    14.95 MunkYBoY
    heheheheh and i know why too...
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Thiago
    Invites sent! =)
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Thiago
    There is an Orkut Fever here in Brazil. EVERYONE has it!!!
    Sz! Ever consider advertising this game as.... ackmondual
    not "real" hi-res+ or anything else. In hi-res+, the graphics are just scaled to fit the width or height of the screen.
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Kristopher
    Please take the Gold from ...lol for me.
    Human Insides Time Trial Kristopher
    The competition looks really hard on this level. I'm surprised Lee lost his gold, and now it looks like Vin could take his silver if he wanted to.
    Vin's game on Moon Madness Kristopher
    What aren't your golds public? Do you have a special route?
    Sz! Ever consider advertising this game as.... Kristopher
    Oh, Ok. I only played it once on the Zodiac.
    Kristopher's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    If it wasn't for that slowdown at the bottom right, I almost could have got a medal.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Wow... 500+ points between 18 and 19- and I finally made it! Almost post Rachman!
    stutorker's game on Sinus Mountains stutorker
    discovered this little hang trick by accident, then went back to see what i could do with it...not much, sadly!
    aurican's game on Underground aurican
    born2freeride
    aurican's game on Underground aurican
    born2freeride
    flip's game on palmstamp.com stutorker
    cool trick to share - thanks!
    aurican's game on Underground aurican
    wuauu thank you for voting me!!!!
    Joey's game on Fly! stutorker
    nice one
    Antonio's game on Riding School Part 2 aurican
    aqui va un voto para un asturiano jejeje
    saludos

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    Wicky's game on Underground aurican
    wenas aqui va un voto para animaros a que cada vez haya mas españoles por aqui.

    prueba la otra forma de esta partida como lo he hecho yo y conseguiras mas votos, yo estoy entre los diez primeros a ver si me echas algun voto

    saludos
    M's game on Sinus Mountains aurican
    muy buena partida de freestyle, jejeje ademas has hecho un buen tiempo para todo lo que haces asi que te voy a votar, animo a todos los españoles

    por cierto pasate por mi partida y si puedes deja algun voto jejeje que ya estoy entre los diez primeros
    Vin's game on Moon Madness Vin
    well i never really try to copy a run exactly if im going for a gold so there arew a buch of different things in this run, i think if ur going for a medal ur better off making it up urself specially on an easy lvl like this, plus i can get about .05-.15 better here lol with these tricks
    Human Insides Time Trial Vin
    ive barely missed a 32.7x and a 33.54 so when i play this more ill get silver or gold probly silver tho
    aurican's game on Underground Vin
    are you kidding me
    aurican's game on Underground MunkYBoY
    hmm my bullshit meter detects something wrong about this
    aurican's game on Underground Kristopher
    I don't get it. It's like my game, but slower. ??
    stutorker's game on Sinus Mountains Kristopher
    Oh yes, that is funny. I was going to do something like that on SiuLun's Cave.
    Vin's game on Moon Madness Kristopher
    I had an original start for my gold, but it is public because no else can beat it, anyway.
    aurican's game on Underground aurican
    i think my game is such as roel's game but faster and people who don't know abou this game had voted me.
    i'm lucky
    aurican's game on Underground Vin
    and none of them left comments?
    aurican's game on Underground DZ
    This is real freestyle, howd do get over those, what do you call them, FUCKING BULLSHIT aka mines. This is the SHITIEST aka best game ever and ive tried my FUCKIN ASS off aka a lot of times to copy this SHIT of a game, AKA you FUCKING SUCK ALEKSEY
    aurican's game on Underground Louis
    wow lessen up on the swearing, but i agree with DZ, this is full of ghosts
    Time Trial Champions monkeydave
    Don't pull a muscle trying to pat yourself on the back there, your majesty. Rachman never even downloaded the Summer Pack.
    Pramit's game on Sinus Mountains Mike_68
    wow this is the slowest game ive seen
    Roel's game on Underground Mike_68
    good one!
    aurican's game on Underground aurican
    eeh i don't understand neither why can I go up so fast but in spite of my really bad english i can understand some of your comments and i'm not in agree with them.

    recently i had been votig to spanish people and maybe they had voted me 6 votes but I have 10 more and i don't know why.
    but i think that you can go up as faster such as me in some ocasions

    ...
    aurican's game on Underground MunkYBoY
    ok first off, DZ you suck at cursing plus your comment was confusing as hell O_O. secondly this route has been done soo many times why would anyone vote for this? the fastest times on this level are cooler than this. does anyone notice that when there are an unusual amount of new users someone ends up going up in the freestyle competition.....
    Tabs's game on Human Insides Lee
    That is motoring!
    I thought you would knock off much more time with that run - really brave!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I know, but he is done playing and I am not. And just recently, I was competing with Schneider; now I am 600 points ahead.

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    Kristopher's game on The Well Kristopher
    Thanks to Mr. Peterson for a great history class.
    Louis's game on Riding School Vin
    interresting approach, not a bad time, one vote
    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    Freestylin' fun!
    Time Trial Champions monkeydave
    Well, you certainly have the skills to continue your climb up the ladder. Just try keep the head size in check and remember that you have an international audience and an American flag next to your name, like it or not.
    Oliver's game on Vertical Avenue monkeydave
    SLOW like responding to a comment that is six months old? Feel better? Nice diplomacy.
    Vega's game on Riding School Vin
    end's like louis's freestyle
    stutorker's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Yah - I've done this too. If you scoot back and go up the far left wall, you can get enough speed to do it off the first hill and then zing your way over the 2nd hill and land successfully to finish the course. It's cool but you can't get a good time with it or anything
    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    Aww man! I see that. I thought for sure I made this one up. Capturing the flag that way was the whole reason I wanted to freestyle this level. I did that trick and made it back in 28.xx in December but I wanted to add in some cool tricks before submitting.
    aurican's game on Underground Chemist
    my friend at school doesnt even have full version he did that...
    Vega's game on Riding School Vin
    id like to see the 28.xx thats nice for this trick got it saved?
    Report a bug Marapupa
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title
    Do as follows:
  • Make sure that you have a level (in the standard level pack) that you are not able to play because none of the two previous levels are completed.
  • If you don't, you can use any palm file manager to delete the file Bike_Or_Die_Results.pdb from your palm (you can find it on PC in crogram FilesPalmYOUR_NAMEBackup or Archive).
  • Then start BikeOrDie and while the intro is playing (Szymon Ulatowski is riding Level 0 , go to the Options->Game->Select level.
  • Select a level that you are not yet able to play and click "Play this level".
  • The message box appears informing you that you cannot yet play this level. Click OK.
  • Then you see the message "Down) - try again".
  • You press PageDown button and play the Level 0!

    P.S. I've got a Rec showing me playing Level 0, but the server doesn't accept it telling that it's an unknown level.
    P.P.S. Notice that Level 0's floor and ceiling (below and above the letters) are hollow - the bike freely comes through.

  • Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title Marapupa
    what the ... has happened to all my punctuation?
    Vega's game on Riding School Vin
    wow thats impressive
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title MunkYBoY
    oooooorrrrrrr you could, in grafitti, write icanread and type / and you can play it that way.....and your way only works for people who havent beaten all the standard levels.
    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43602
    Donnie's game on Riding School Part 2 wbw
    I think u can improve by not slowing down at that hill just a sugestion
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent wbw
    Man i been trying so long to do what he did its so hard
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    Just call me "Mr. Stutter Brakes."
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    This was a really lucky game because it usually gets me 46 or 47 seconds.
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title Kristopher
    But this is a funny way to do it.

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    Kristopher's game on You Qi Kristopher
    I just couldn't get that Flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :< :{
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title Marapupa
    so, icanread is a feature and the above way is a bug
    also icanread doesn't work when I enable Russian in my palm...
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title Kristopher
    That would be because that disables input of English letters. You do look sort of Russian in your Picture.
    Kristopher's game on You Qi MunkYBoY
    lmao
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title MunkYBoY
    lol smilies pwnt your punctuation. they can be quite annoyi8ng. and in what picture does he look russian in, i see nothing.
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title Kristopher
    How do you do the sobbing smiley? I think if Marapupa's picture wasn't so blurry and in the shade, it would be more noticable.
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title MunkYBoY
    well i think this would do the sobbing
    Playing Level 0: Bike or Die Title MunkYBoY
    nope but maybe its this way
    Jurassic Parking MacGuru
    You made this level WAY too easy by covering everything in "hidden" floor. Take most of it out and you'd have yourself a great level.
    MunkYBoY
    i enjoyed some of these levels. i thought spikeade was pretty fun. the chairs level gave my pda a bad frame rate =P so i havent been able to beat it.
    Louis's game on Riding School Antoine
    nice time, sweet trick
    Louis's game on Riding School Louis
    Very cool end trick, good time, perfect for freestyle
    aurican's game on Bike O'Clock aurican
    buuuf
    Jurassic Parking Kristopher
    But if you are trying to get through the level pack to play The Well (nice level ), it's great to have some easy levels. It would be really funny if everyone made their own versions of the Standard Levels.
    Louis's game on Spike Cave Andrew Ladd
    thats the right stuff *****
    *****
    *****
    ************
    thats looks really sad ok but good run
    Chemist's game on Wheel Insider Chemist
    i only started bike or die on my own palm a few days back... i think i can reach top10 on this lvl soon...
    Louis's game on Spike Cave Kristopher
    That's a good first half. You and your school should play the other levelpacks more.
    Red Murder Time Trial Kristopher
    Does Murder come in any other color?
    pumb.org Time Trial Kristopher
    That's a hard trick coming back down.
    stutorker's game on Sinus Mountains stutorker
    cheers vega - i'll try that out

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    DavidKing's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Wow! It's been a long time since someone has scored this well on this level. Great run DK.
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    wow 17.66 no trick
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    Yup. You are the first to break into the 17's without going straight over the bombs to the flag. Cool.
    Kristopher's game on Hill Kristopher
    Another game in the Top 10! To see all of my games in the Top 10 playing at once, go to
    http://geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/bike/mybest/
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    What about the American Flag? #12!
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    There is another ghost problem. Alex lives in about five countries now.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/view.php?c=1&fs=&hf=0&fs=1
    Kristopher's game on Bird Kristopher
    There's a fun trick 50 seconds in.
    Louis's game on Riding School PMD
    I tried this one for a while too. I could never beat my score from the traditional way. Sometimes it sends you off pretty cleanly. See this one: http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43969
    Austin's Levels of Doom Austron
    Well, MacGuru, if you had actually had the SKILL to get to the harder levels, then maybe you would have seen that they are not so easy... anyway, Im just glad people are downloading...
    DavidKing..'s game on The Right Way Vin
    wonder if this time should be removed if davidking accidentally added .. to his name right?
    Kristopher's game on Wheel Insider Kristopher
    Ha ha! That was way too easy! I also got 12:44, so I will try to get a medal here (even though my best time yesturday was ranked #44).
    Lee's game on Hellraider Kristopher
    It's funny you went the other way, and we got the same time.
    DavidKing..'s game on The Right Way Kristopher
    That happened to me before, too, but I didn't submit it. It happens if you tap in the graffiti area.
    Kristopher's game on Underground Kristopher
    This game says "Wow, that's way better than Roel's. I never saw it done twice in one game!"
    PrayeR's game on Wheel Insider Kristopher
    Well, not any more, at least.
    Report a bug Vin
    Moving BOD
    I need to take bod off my handheld and put it only on my card, how is thatdone without deleting data
    Vin's game on Underground _alex_
    wow....
    guess youll b the best at this lvl soon
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial _alex_
    i know my times suck and i probably shouldnt submit but can some1 plz tell me how , i dont have network connetion through palm so is it still possible?
    torrobinson's game on Riding School _alex_
    u must b really embarressed of ya self
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Okay, Vin. Get back to the U.S. where you belong. Tabs and I have you down in second. I will go there if you do. I want to get the U.S. up there!

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    Big Cheese Kristopher
    You can use this to practice that hard part because you start at the top right.
    Golden Gate Kristopher
    Suicide Bomber Planes
    The Well Kristopher
    I call it Art! *-) Look out for the Cyclops!
    Moving BOD Kristopher
    The actual PRC is under 400K, so just leave it on the internal. If it is taking too much space, erase some of your recordings with the "Delete All" command.
    Real Newbie Levelpack Kristopher
    People! (Vin, Vega, Ackmondual, MunkyBoy!) I plan to put the Newbie Pack together soon, since noone else is, so if you don't say anything now, it will be like this. Please look at the levels individually and give your feedback!
    Hillz Vin
    good one
    Kristopher's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Mwaa haa haa!
    Kristopher's game on KL City Centre Kristopher
    Very lucky.
    Kristopher's game on Double Sprint MunkYBoY
    uhh i dont really think theres a California in the UK
    Schneider's game on Pipe Universe Schneider
    bouunce or die
    AY's game on The Right Way DZ
    Dude, you suck balls
    Vin's game on U Jump Andrew Ladd
    nice jod vinay you're rackin up medals just like that
    Moving BOD Vin
    The problem is i cant hav it on handheld some school rule so how do i fix it
    Schneider's game on Pipe Universe MunkYBoY
    fun
    Moving BOD MunkYBoY
    ooh someone goes to a nice school =P
    Report a bug wbw
    How to get in touch with Szymon
    No one has been able to answer my question with sound issues on a Palm T/X. Is there a way to contact Szymon to see if he knows of a fix?
    How to get in touch with Szymon Kristopher
    You can email him, but I'm not sure why he would know- he only has a Zodiac, Treo 600, and a Tungsten something, I think.
    Moving BOD Kristopher
    If you have a card reader, you can delete BOD from the internal memory and then copy all of the levelpacks and recordings from the PC backup to the "Launcher" folder on the SD card.
    Kristopher's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Kristopher, I hope you don't think you're cool just because you beat me at this level like you told me you would. Great job tho man!
    Medals by Country Vin
    the filipinos were not that awesome so i moved back

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    Roel's game on Underground лÀ¤
    Good.
    How to get in touch with Szymon wbw
    Do you know his e-mail address?

    Thanks.
    How to get in touch with Szymon Sz
    sz@toyspring.com, and you can also send me a private message.
    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays Sz
    with a help from Ben Michell (thanks!) i found one cause of the delay on T|X, and it is connected with the way the sound handling is performed in the game. i already have a fixed version and it will be published soon.
    however, this does not solve the problem completely, because there is another source of the delay, probably the new NVFS flash based database architecture introduced by Palm. these delays seem to happen only at the moment when the biker dies and for now there is no cure.
    News Sz
    Video Jigsaw
    The new Toyspring toy is not yet released, but you can try the beta version here.

    Edit 12-Feb-2006:
    And now it is official v1.0 - download and enjoy!
    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays wbw
    Thanks so much for the upcoming fix. I can live with the delays when the biker dies (although I die way too often!), its just annoying when you are at a critical point in the route and the biker hesitates (causing more deaths!)

    Thanks again.
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Parawa!!!
    Ahi te van tres votos...con esto tienes la de oro no...felicitaciones!
    Video Jigsaw Tiger
    Sweet! I'm installing it right now
    Vin's game on U Jump Vin
    acs's 2nd one-two finish
    DavidKing's game on Congratulations! Vin
    can we see
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    I still like my swooping double back flip run better
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43560
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Vega
    I see no lucky breaks here. You can't do this on luck man.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    Sorry guys, I used to be #3 in this level with a 12,32...that's just not good enough anymore. I tried this like 15 times and beat it this way.
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    nice run how do u show like a specific address for a game e.g.http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43560, how is the php found?
    Time Trial Champions monkeydave
    I'll spell it out for you. The American flag next to your name indicates you are an American. Hence, when you make comments, you make an impression on readers from other countries that necessarily become associated with our country. Rather than thinking "Boy, that Kristopher sure is full of himself!" they may think, "Boy, those Americans sure are arrogant. This observation I have made reinforces the stereotypes propogated by the media and others from my country that dislike Americans. Because I have made an independent observation that comports with what I have heard, these stereotypes must be true. Therefore, Americans are arrogant." In other words, use diplomacy or make us all look bad. See comments made by Rachman, You Qi, Oliver and others. All are respectful and keep boasting to a minimum. You, on the other hand, concentrate on blowing your own horn. Let your accomplishments speak for themselves and remember that your cheerleading squad has only one member. Understand now?
    Levelpack Explorer Schneider
    are my leval scoming
    Louis's game on Double Sprint Louis
    Get a load of this hoolagin!
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Thx Vin...just copy and paste the address from the browser
    Louis's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Fantastic time! I just posted mine last week and now there are 4 people in the top ten with this routine. It's not going to get much quicker than this though. Very well done Louis!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Yes, Okay.

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    Louis's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    I'm not sure the first flip helps at all. Does it?
    DavidKing's game on SinkInToDrinks DavidKing
    DavidKing's game on SinkInToDrinks Vin
    how? nice job by the way lol
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    everyone check out my levels called trials!
    BikeOrDie - Trials Schneider
    My levels are remakes and some costams check it out
    AY's game on The Right Way _alex_
    who cares if he sucks, ive had the game only a few weeks and im way better than you =p
    _alex_'s game on Double Sprint _alex_
    "prince jhons my freind from school he showed me the tactique and.... i beat him =)
    Adding Custom Pictures to My Levels IZodiac
    tbmpedit will allow you to make hi-res pics!
    Report a bug _alex_
    big problem either with game or my palm
    ok so i was playing i got 30 seconds on half pipe and 34 on touvh bricks then i got to beat my time on downhill madness, i dies and there was a thing saying fatal exeption, i rest the palm and all my times were gone!
    but the worst part is every time i try to even start a lvl fatal exception comes bak up again!
    any help, plz
    Vin's game on Underground Louis
    Vega,
    u missed mine
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    he just said i was the first louis...btw nice catching up on standrd, i tied it up as of now
    Louis's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Kris - It doesn't. Yours is faster up until you pass the bombs on the way back....That's where Louis excels.
    _alex_'s game on Double Sprint Vega
    You can tell. Your recordings look almost identical.
    A Little Tough Kristopher
    Was this based upon my pencil levels?
    BikeOrDie - sub10 Kristopher
    My times:
    19:86
    8:06
    7:20
    10:82
    9:34
    9:42
    -
    5:82
    6:68
    14:26
    6:90
    -
    12:92
    10:82
    9:30
    9:14
    3:30
    8:26
    11:42
    10:12

    Nice levels.
    big problem either with game or my palm Kristopher
    What Palm do you have?
    Adding Custom Pictures to My Levels Kristopher
    Thanks!!
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vega
    VIN!! How the heck?!!
    Vin's game on Double Sprint MunkYBoY
    what if vin is really oliver in disguise?!?!?!?!
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vega
    that's hilarious

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    big problem either with game or my palm _alex_
    tungsten e2
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vin
    god i keep trading medals like if i get a gold, a gold of mine becomes silver it happened with ujump/moon maddness, human insides/sinkintodrinks, and now tis/human insides...david and tabs r too good...
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vin
    lol ur acting too surprised vega i dont suck that bad
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Vin, of course that's not what I meant. It's just that Oliver's 20.72 seems unbeatable. I am shocked that ANYBODY beat it. You da man.
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    I wondered if any of the Pros are disguised as others, myself.
    Biker's Cafe MacGuru
    Cool BMX Flash Game!
    http://www.teagames.com/games/bmxhighlands/play.php

    Check it out, It's ALMOST as fun as Bike or Die
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    Rachman is winning?
    Schneider's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    You should have tried Rachman's ending.
    Cool BMX Flash Game! You Qi
    thx for sharing!
    Freestyle Competition MunkYBoY
    i kinda like seeing a different freestyle up there other than roels
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    man if you guys saw this, ud be all "how was this better than his last??
    Louis's game on Double Sprint ...lol
    loser.. haha
    Vin's game on Double Sprint ...lol
    lol loserrrr.. hahahaha... nice anways
    BikeOrDie - sub10 ...lol
    A 19?/ kris you stink at these.. no offense.
    Kristopher's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Does this inspire anyone? Get the flag this way- get about 18 seconds.
    BikeOrDie - sub10 Kristopher
    I wasn't going for any medals; I just beat them once each, except for two of them.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    20.xx club!
    Kristopher's game on Double Sprint Louis
    Its impossible to get the flag that way
    jasonjerome's game on Underground Vega
    Very nice!
    Vin's game on Floors Vin
    this is the most frustrating trick

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    PrayeR's game on Cave 2 Smalls
    I play only about 10 minutes per day, except for the weekends, where I usually spend about an hour.
    Smalls's game on Konecnik DavidKing
    Have not used trick, 23,90 is very good time, good control, hopeful to take the gold medal.
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Kristopher
    But I want the medal!
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    what am i doing wrong? zoom in at the end and ull see im touching the flag ahhh...
    Vega's game on Underground Vin
    haha i got 26.08
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    looked fun thought id try
    Louis's game on Pipe Universe Louis
    Spring or Die!
    Louis's game on The Right Way Louis
    crapiest game ever
    Levelpack Explorer Benjamin
    so how long is the average time for a lvl pack to be uploaded ?? i e-mailed mine to support@toyspring.com or whatever the e-mail was like 2 monthes ago and it's not up yet. any idea's?
    David's game on The Right Way Gus
    anyone can do this u suck
    The Ratt's game on The Right Way Gus
    what kind of retard thinx this is freestyle?
    Ideas You Qi
    Ghost Bike
    http://www.teagames.com/games/bmxghost/play.php

    I think this is a very good feature for the next version.
    Ghost Bike Kristopher
    It would also be good for a multiplayer version, if there was one.
    PrayeR's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    I disagree because there are multiple places where you can save time. Obviously, Aleskly used a different route, because this game is played well.
    jasonjerome's game on Underground Tabs
    Wow - Exellent stuff.I did'nt think 17.16 could be
    beaten.I guess 16.xx is the target now.

    Ghost Bike Tabs
    Absolutely agree on a ghost bike feature.To save
    cpu it doen't even have to be the whole bike.Just
    the wheels would suffice.

    jasonjerome's game on Underground DavidKing
    Jasonjerome seems very much hopeful to win in Standard Levels, certainly Oliver is very good too.
    Aleksey's game on Cablecar Polo
    WELL you goy my vote nice map and god tricks
    flip's game on palmstamp.com Polo
    well fliping jejejej
    jasonjerome's game on Underground Vega
    16.xx coming soon

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    BikeOrDie - sub10 Polo
    Good set! i like it!
    Report a bug Polo
    File Was not uploades
    i cant send files
    y triying using the java program but still with problems

    the server is down?
    Vin's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    Very slow start - amazed you beat Vega.
    PatrickYiu's game on Riding School otto
    Hi
    Ideas Kristopher
    New display mode
    For levels like Cave Dweller, and more to come, I would like a new display mode, that is both Outline and Textured together, so you can see the nice looking clouds and the invisible lines all at once. Just draw black lines around the edges of the ground, please.
    File Was not uploades Kristopher
    I had that problem, too, starting yesturday. I emailed SZ.
    File Was not uploades Sz
    thanks for reporting!
    it must be caused by the recent server software upgrade (new PHP version).
    will be corrected as soon as possible!
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Sz
    the creator of this pack says: "All levels should be able to be completed in 30 seconds or less"
    Levelpack Explorer Sz
    Benjamin, i'm very sorry... somehow your mail got lost in my inbox (now i found it after i saw your post, no need to resend)
    in general, the levelpacks are published in few days after receiving the file, don't hesitate to ask if it happens you don't get a reply.
    otto's game on Sinus Mountains PatrickYiu
    Not bad
    File Was not uploades Sz
    java websync works again!
    (make sure you are using the current version - should have "9-Feb-06" in the window's title)
    Levelpack Explorer Sz
    hey, kristopher, i just discovered that your levelpack is the most downloaded palmgear product in "new software/last 30 days"
    congratulations!
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    So far I have them all done under 27 secs, but I do not think 25's are possible for all? Prove me wrong
    File Was not uploades You Qi
    the built-in submitting system also doesn't work with me.
    Vin's game on Pipe Universe Vin
    woot
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    Ya know I thought the same thing but then I watched some others and they all looked slow for some reason. Maybe the server is playing back this level slow or something ? ? ...
    Sound file on Palm T/X causing delays Sz
    The new test version is ready!
    It should fix the T|X "stuttering" problem and also improves Treo 650 handling: "Disable other keys" will also disable the Home button to prevent accidental quitting (see "Control Options"

    Download it here: BikeOrDie-1.3f.zip
    aurican's game on Underground DZ
    sry about the profanity, Louis is hacking into my account
    Freestyle Competition DZ
    Hey I think we should get rid of duplicate runs, aurican's is the same as Roel's
    Medals by Country DavidKing
    Taiwan enters the top three formally.

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    Time Trial Champions Volcano
    i dont play anymore but i like to check my rank from time to time.. went down from 6 to 12 =(

    and monkeydave... your comment is understandable, but remember.. this is only a game, we are supposed tu have fun. so bragging about scores only encourages competition which is the whole point of the rankings
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    I haven't figured the trick out yet, if so I think that it is doable in 22**.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Totally agree to the statement of Volcano, this is only a game, needn't be too serious.
    Smalls's game on Konecnik DavidKing
    Yes, Tabs will be accomplished 22,XX soon.
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    I'm going for a gold medal! I slowed down about 5 seconds at the end, and this game didn't even use another trick that could save another 5 seconds!
    Kristopher's game on Vertical Avenue Kristopher
    Wheelie!
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Yes, it's great having 800 people download my levels. But it looks like they are already the most downloaded Bike levels at Palmgear (or one of the most...); maybe it's the way I advertized it?
    RFK.1.020-LordOfRings Kristopher
    This is a hard level!
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Kristopher
    I did the trick once; you have to accelerate alot below the flag. It happens sort of by accident if you play it enough.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Actually, I think most of the players live in the U.S.
    See the PDAs in my picture?
    can it be done??? Kristopher
    That's funny. The end is like impossible.
    Retro Kristopher
    I know it's a little old and simple, but I think it would be great for the Newbie Pack. I'll give you all 24 hours to disagree.
    Retro Kristopher
    ...and to name a better level to take its place.
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Web Site: Two Things
    It's not a major concern, but at this site, when I am typing a reply, it says "you could comment... if you were logged in" at the bottom of the page, when I am logged in. Also, the left frame at the forum frequently takes 100% of the screen space (Firefox), so the page scrolls horizontally. Please investigate.
    Video Jigsaw Kristopher
    Is it released yet?
    Video Jigsaw You Qi
    http://toyspring.com/vj/
    Video Jigsaw You Qi
    isn't it was released?
    can it be done??? Benjamin
    yeah, this level i haven't even finished yet. if anyone does beat it please lmk.
    can it be done??? Benjamin
    let me re-state that i haven't beat it yet the level is finished
    Benny's levels Benjamin
    hope you all enjoy i'm working on a second if you like this one, however it may take a while as a bunch of levels in the second one were accidentally erased

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    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Robbed I tell you!! Entire recording is 17.06 and tire goes straight thru flag at about 16.8 seconds. Anyway I'll stop whining and nail 16.xx some day!
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=44983
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    I might try, I did a couple of times, but never even came close. Oh well! Do you think that 21** is possable? They said so in Nik's game.
    Medals by Country Smalls
    What are the point values for each medal? It seems that the golds are worth too much. You have to have at least 7 silvers to make up for one gold. That's alot. Is there point values or is this just golds, and the other medals are just for show...ish?
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    I have opened the secret to Cave Dweller in hopes that the new Gold Medalist will, too. The level is not bad though, with four different routes, since the hardest ones are the fastest.
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    I know a route noone else knows! I could even beat this by three seconds!
    Video Jigsaw Kristopher
    But is it only Palmgear (haven't checked )
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    The silvers don't matter unless there is a tie for golds, but we might want to change that.
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller DavidKing
    Congratulate Kristopher.
    News Sz
    Bike or Die v1.3g
    This update fixes the long standing bug in the submission procedure. It means that you may be able to submit your recordings directly from your palm even if it always failed in previous versions - try it!

    Other improvements since last official release:
  • "Bike or Die" now supports proxy servers, which may help when your operator or ISP only allows for proxy web connections. (See: Menu -> Options -> Hall of Fame -> Set Proxy)

  • Treo 650 "Home" key can be disabled to prevent accidental quitting ("disable other buttons" in Control Options). You can still quit from menu or use the Home key after the game is finished.
  • Fixed "stuttering" on Tungsten T|X (using sampled sound caused the game to pause for a split of second whenever the "free-wheeling" sound effect was started)
  • Video Jigsaw Sz
    oh, i forgot to update the "news" here, but yes, it is now official v1.0 on palmgear and handango
    File Was not uploades Sz
    yeah, this new PHP exposed an old bug in the submission code. i fixed it in  Bike or Die v1.3g, it should now work better than ever.
    SDil's game on Sawtooth лÀñ
    GOOD
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    doesn't look sluggish anymore...looks back to normal speed now
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    Oh yah well I busted a 17.62 w/out going straight to the flag. Check it! http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=45023
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller MunkYBoY
    wow
    Bike or Die v1.3g Borszczuk
    Still I wasn't able to upload from the Palm. And the game now, ocassionally but still, crashes my PDA
    Ideas Borszczuk
    Feature requesat
    To nail them down:
  • ability to turn off the "after-crash sequence" (I want the level to restart instantly, w/o watching the biker to float in parts for some seconds after I screw the ride)
  • option to disable Menu button (Treo650)
  • ability (please, please, please) to use any Treo key for controling the bike. Would be much more handy, plus, it would safe by 5Way navi from being wrecked too early.
  • File Was not uploades Borszczuk
    I failed to upload anything that way, though.
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    BoD - where time stood still
    SZ, we're in 2006 now. Your in-game About screen ain't.
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    Website: Handango exposes 1.1c of Editor, not 1.1g
    Main page redirects to handango for Level Editor downloads. But instead of 1.1g you get 1.1c

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    BoD - where time stood still Kristopher
    I'm not sure about that, or how many people look at that after purchasing, but I do know that the intro game replay is Classic where time should "stand still."
    Bike or Die v1.3g wbw
    SZ, Thanks for fixing the sound on the T/X.
    Bike or Die v1.3g Sz
    oh, i was so sure v1.3g was perfect
    what message do you get when submission fails?
    and where does the game crash?
    Feature requesat Sz
    well...
  • or maybe better an option for not blocking up/down from restarting the game during the crash sequence? (actually this blocking is done on purpose to "isolate" your previous game keypresses from the next game)
  • i'm not sure if i would like to be deprived of the menu key... are you sure?
  • could be done. apart from exchanging one simple function in several ugly function in the control code i would need a different "control options" user interface for choosing one of 35 treo keys, eg. in the Hi-Launcher way (which would be nice even without treo anyway)
  • BoD - where time stood still Sz
    yeah, i must admit that "about" screen is visually compatible with the first Palm III apps i've seen several years ago
    any ideas how it should look like in 2006?
    Feature requesat Borszczuk
    so...
  • would be ok, I think
  • I think so. If the menu would be accessible by tap the menubar (which would automatically block the menu key from working) during the game, that would suffice. Menu key shall work while not in game, or when you crashed.
  • Anything to let me redefine controls to the keyboard would do And this would be the most important (at least to me change.
  • Bike or Die v1.3g Borszczuk
    Crashing is random (and luckily, quite seldom). Uploading fails with the message: "Upload failed (stage=0, wait=0, err=4688)". Using Orange GPRS, no proxy.
    BoD - where time stood still Borszczuk
    I always do care that. This somehow indicates if product is being still developed or not. 2 years is a lot of time.
    BoD - where time stood still Borszczuk
    SZ: I doubt it's worth any efforts to make About dialog look more fancy. Keeping it up to date is quite sufficent (plus, maybe, replacing hardcoded string X positions by calculated (with aid of FntCharsWidth()) to make it still center when i.e. FontX hack is being used. And maybe less sucky icons (sucky means not antialiased to white background -> I use "Nostalgia" theme here and most icons looks awful when aliased to white background (which I do not have, bad luck
    BoD - where time stood still Borszczuk
    I noticed the website also stays in 2004 - I always work that out by replacing hardcoded year by PHP's date('Y');. And I'm up to date forever
    Vega's game on Underground Borszczuk
    Wow, I wonder if designer of that level (SZ?) foreseen going that way And tou can go better I think as some ticks were wasted at the very end
    Time Trial Champions monkeydave
    It is probably a generational thing. I'm an ex-Naval officer who goes to bed at night actually concerned about what goes on in the world and how Americans are perceived. Kristopher is a school boy who goes to bed at night concerned about whether he will ever be #1 at Bike or Die. We both have the same flag flying behind our names though, and as Americans, like it or not, we have to be a little more careful than everyone else when it comes to diplomacy.

    I didn't mean to sound harsh but he wasn't understanding my subtle hints. Also, I've never subscribed to the notion that annoying people is a necessary component of competition.
    BoD - where time stood still Kristopher
    Has it been two years already? Then we need another one of those "12 months of Bike or Die" charts that shows the top 50 players throughout the year.
    Vin's game on Cave Dweller Vin
    I did it three!
    Vin's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    Actually, forth. Someone wants my gold...
    Feature requesat Kristopher
    Many programs have a "Capture" method of assigning keys, which is just as good, but it needs to know the difference between all of the keys. If possible, please support the rocker switch for the Wrist PDA.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Actually, tonight I go to bed worrying about beating Schneider in the Summer Pack. But I don't just talk about winning; I also made levels, and I hope I'm not annoying anyone. Diplomacy is okay, but I thought we were just talking about Bike or Die, here.
    Feature requesat Sz
    the "capture" function once implemented will probably capture the fossil rocker key
    btw. when you change the avatar next time try to make a photo of the wrist pda on your wrist and displaying the "bike or die" screen - this should look cool
    Bike or Die v1.3g Sz
    err=4688 means: netErrNoDNSServers (bad network configuration? can you access any other websites from your treo?)

    as for crashing, i can't recall when BoD last crashed my palm, but recently i don't play as much as earlier. can anyone else confirm that v1.3g is more/less/equal prone to crashing?

    on the other hand, there may be some very old bugs that lived unnoticed since the begining and were exposed by the NVFS architecture of treo 650, T|X and lifedrive... i believe NVFS (the root of all evil) is also responsible for delaying the crash scene (quite long on lifedrive, short but still annoying on treo 650).
    BoD - where time stood still Sz
    oh, so you are talking about "2004" displayed in that window! what a relief. i thought i'm supposed to put a truecolor bitmap in the background or something like that to make it up to date

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    BoD - where time stood still Borszczuk
    Pointless as long as PalmOS' UI looks like from 14th century by itself
    Bike or Die v1.3g Kristopher
    I'm still using 1.3a, and I've had the game crash 5-10 times now. That's pretty efficient compared to other games, and I've even had Zuma freeze once. Most of the crashes happened when I selected a level pack to play, probably because the results PDB was missing. But I had one crash a few weeks ago: I was practicing my button mashing, pressing buttons on the Zodiac as fast as possible, for two minutes straight on Finding Mice. That's when I got that old looking error screen and had to reset the Palm. I haven't tried it again because it's probably not too great for my hardware.
    Louis's game on Jurassic Parking Louis
    weee
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    BoDesign - bugs
    - lack of map view from within the editor (can be reached by doing Test and then Map view - but wastes a lot of time). View->Map view would rock.
  • select Pic (or B.Pic). Choose any (ie. snowman). Place on the game area two of them. Now choose anyother picture (i.e. wheel). The last placed showman gets replaced by the wheel.
  • lack of ability to turn off "letters" next to objects. Painfull for small images (i.e. flowers), where "B" and numer covers most of the picture, disallowing precise placement (you have to act semi-blindly)
  • Lack of "Dirty" flag - indicating if the level was saved since last modifications. It'd be pretty easy to get implemented, by setting dirty flag on any action that triggers Undo recording and clearing dirty flag on save, load and clear (poping up some requester prior load/save/clear in case the level Dirty, of course)
  • default button in Save/Load is Delete (ough). Shall rather be Cancel -> pretty easy when you're fast and use 5Way
  • Load/Save -> Beam -> Cancel - gets back to the editor instead of Load/Save dialog
  • the Load/Save order change "arrows" are pretty much easy way to wreck your levels (I lost one that way). Here's the scenario - you work on the level (Number: 5). Then enter Load/Save to reorder your levels. Then click Cancel. Then save your Level again. Boom. Since reordering is non cancelable, if you're unlucky you have just overwritten one f the other levels you swapped with currently edited. The solution would be -> move reorder feature to the other location (not in load/save). Or, make it cancelable. But none the less, it shall auto-update the level Number to match reordering. Or, at very least, popup a warning to remind the user that s/he is in danger.
  • lack of ability to vertice multiselect other way than with rectangular marker. Sometimes it's not possible to use it. Would be nice if the seletion could be of any shape, or if BoDesign could allow gluing selection together, it. you turn
    multiselect and start marking. Each area is added to the previous selections unless you disable multiselect. (it's rather RFE not a bug).
  • Ideas Borszczuk
    Idea - Triggers
    It'd be pretty nice feature (and I think quite easy to add to the current code) to have something I draftly called "triggers". How it shall work - the trigger is an invisible object. Whenever user hit the trigger the extra action gets unveiled. Depending on how this would be implemented, it would let us to make the levels more interactive. The trigger could be one-time-use (so once hit, it triggers the action and becomes inactive) or every-time-time (barely used). Possible usage: when user hit the trigger BoD displays level designer's text information (could be quite funny). When hit, shows or hides some objects (i.e. when user hit the last flag we could hide some obstacles) etc, etc.
    _alex_'s game on Cloudwalk Gus
    hey al u can do better than this!
    Save the Princess!! Borszczuk
    The level is impossible to complete, at least due to design bug (you always crash next to the tower, hittin the ceiling). Otherwise I almost made it
    Kristopher's game on Triangles Kristopher
    Almost.
    Standard Levels Kristopher
    Anyone else notice a big gap from 13th to 14th? To move up, I will need 200 points, and then just 5 more to move up again...
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Okay, I realize how bad some of my times are. Upstairs - #50!!
    Time Trial Champions Borszczuk
    Monkeydave: you'd be lucky if people would just build his oppinion based on comments on this site. But get to life and visit american embassy in Poland. And hell, these f* bastards are far more than arrogant. And that shall concern you more I think.
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    Borszczuk: you were refused a visa, huh?
    prince jon's game on Wheel Insider _alex_
    jon! im ill for 1 day and u get third place!!!!!!!!!!!
    Time Trial Champions monkeydave
    I'm not on crusade to make all Americans behave themselves, Borszczuk, it is just that we have a nice little international community here and, for the most part, everyone really gets along great. I'm also not saying that the Americans are the only ones making arrogant comments, I'm just not concerned when people from other countries make themselves look bad. I also know that Kristopher is a good kid with his heart in the right place and can handle criticsm from someone two or three times his age.

    As far as your embassy goes, if I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that the people in the American embassy are arrogant. I'm not sure why you would ever need to go in there, but I'll take your word for it. I'm not flying to Poland to tell them to be nice to you. My sister, on the other hand, met some dreamy-eyed Polish guy on a cruise last month and may be chasing him over there. Maybe I'll tell her to stop in the embassy and give them a stern look for you. Or you could bring them some doughnuts. We Americans love doughnuts.
    Time Trial Champions Borszczuk
    What I was saying that if you are really concern about how people perceive your country this this forum ain't the real thing to bother, no matter who behaves how and what flag waves next to his avatar. As for the embassy - it's not matter of visa as SZ suggest (and this part always raise the Americans' eyebrew when they listen how the procedures looks like and what to they charge), but if you bother there're plenty of people around to tell you about their most humiliating 5 minutes so far, if they ever been in US embassy chances are pretty high you listen about that. And how many members this site has? Will it beat their *daily* visitor count? I am not saying American are arrogant by default (some polish employees there were morons as well) as most are not - I met last week some of them visiting London and they were just ok and pretty normal , but there're just a few with "powers" to wreck what you want to achieve and they are not on this forum. So if you really care, that is what you shall be at least aware of.

    As for doughnuts. They are for police officers only. Seen on the movies Regards (and greet your sis

    SZ: stop chatting and add the ability to upload records of all the official (present on this site) tracks, not just these on Hall Of Fame. Over&Out.
    Time Trial Champions Vin
    that would be really cool to upload times (not recoriding files, perhaps through the ___results file for all lvl packs for more competition out of the hall of fame, see who gets best scores without the aid of videos
    Louis' Pack Louis
    Check this pack out its really sweet!
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    i guess thats a great idea, but then again you could just simply make all the replays secret or something. whichever works better. i think it would be cool.
    Time Trial Champions Vin
    i meant so sz wouildnt have a server issue, tiny files with times could be uploaded for non-hall of fame lvls for some fun competition
    Louis' Pack Kristopher
    This level is planned for the Newbie Pack.

    In and Out..........of hell
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1088

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    Down Kristopher
    I won on my first try!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    And churches... churches all like doughnuts, too.

    That would be a good idea- uploading ALL recordings, but I'm sure there was a reason it wasn't like that in the first place. I've already got 1200 recordings uploaded; it would be a lot more if this happened. I'm not sure that the server could take it. :?
    simnons's game on Pipe Universe simnons
    I did it with the free fall, so im quite happy. Still not an amazing time but it was a fun run.
    Killer ...lol
    louis whats your fastest time on this.. i can get a 20 on it i think. i can get the first flag by 10 seconds
    Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
    Oliver's game on Underground Tabs
    First one to 16.xx should get a prize I reckon.
    Anyway - well done.

    Oliver's game on Underground Vega
    C'mon Tabs show us all how it's done....land the 16.xx! I've landed 17.xx more than 40 times now and my thumb hurts. But for now Oliver is King of the Underground
    Oliver's game on Underground DavidKing
    Very glad to see that Oliver comes back, hope that Prayer can come back too.
    prince jon's game on Vanilla Sky Gus
    told u 38 seconds is easy
    Oliver's game on Underground jasonjerome
    shocks...my gold did not even last for months.
    galing mo talaga idol...MABUHAY!!!
    Oliver's game on Underground MunkYBoY
    HOLY CRAP oliver is back......or is he???? duhn duhn duuuhhhnn
    Oliver's game on Underground Kristopher
    As the leader of the Standard Levels, I thought he was one of the really good players that left. But he's still here? Why was he gone in the first place?
    SiuLun's Levels Kristopher
    Smalls is winning.
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    You've got to be kidding!!! If you can get two golds in one day, play the other level packs!! Did you get a new Palm or something?
    Oliver's game on Pipe Universe MunkYBoY
    lol
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community ...lol
    can i too? sexyinth@gmail
    Polo's game on Riding School Part 2 Polo
    ya qu eno quepo en rakings pro almenos soy segundo mejor chileno ^^ vamos a ser el primero
    Time Trial Champions Borszczuk
    Plus, you'd be able to watch how people deal with your levels' traps you so carefuly planted <ad> http://bike.toyspring.com/levels.php?p=69 </a>
    Louis' Pack Louis
    Look at this pack everyone, sweet levels, good challenge and creativeity!

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    Louis' Pack ...lol
    shh louis it isnt that amazing...
    Louis' Pack Louis
    better than yours
    Downhill Madness Time Trial Louis
    its not luck, you can get 1120s consistently with skill
    theres a certain way to play it
    Kristopher's game on Spike Cave Kristopher
    This ending was better, Lee.
    Kristopher's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    You didn't see this one coming. Very original.
    YIKES!3 Kristopher
    You should have put Yikes2 before Yikes3.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Top 10!! It took me long enough. I had to gain over 200 points on Rouch.
    Standard Levels Vin
    ruben was 9th less than a month ago, ACS pride, louis and me beat prayer
    Vin's game on The Well Vin
    11.xx pride
    open urs if u beat it
    Kristopher's game on Pipe Universe MunkYBoY
    lol wow....i actually didnt see that coming at all
    Time Trial Champions MunkYBoY
    yes and now you have a crap load of medals to get enjoy
    Louis's game on The Well Louis
    what he said
    Louis' Pack ...lol
    lol whatever.. that was a crappy level pack. but i still think it was better than this. haha dont take it so personally.
    Feature requesat Kristopher
    As per Request, pictures here!!! (4, total)

    http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/palm/wristpda/
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Now I can stop worring about annoying levels like Bike Impossible and only play the fun levels!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Super Tricky!
    Newbie Pack Sz
    Enjoy the new Hall of Fame levelpack!
    Newbie Pack Powerman
    5 x gold 4 x silver!!!!!
    But not for a long time.
    Feature requesat Sz
    thanks kristopher
    here is a link for easy viewing: http://www.geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/palm/wristpda/
    Newbie Pack Vin
    if i hav times for individual lvls like shelf, foothill half circle, etc but theyre from the mountain biking pack, can i submit or do i need to redo them?

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    Hellevator Time Trial Vin
    i hav a 40.0x on this
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Vin
    i hav a 24.00 on this
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    i hav 12.08
    Foothill Half Circle Time Trial Vin
    i hav 22.54
    Newbie Pack Sz
    if the levels you played in another levelpacks are EXACTLY IDENTICAL then you can send me the files and i will submit them for you (a simple modification is needed as the server won't accept the unknown levelpack automatically). but if anything was changed in a level then your recordings are useless (Kristopher said that most of these levels are modified versions)
    Newbie Pack Sz
    update: only 3 levels are identical:  Draken - Turn It, Twist It, Etc.  OrR - Die or Die and  Cactus
    Newbie Pack MunkYBoY
    holy crap i have to hold me a top 10 position before other people
    Sharper Than Glass Time Trial Kristopher
    Louis: like my version of your level?
    BikeOrDie - Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Also, the original levels suggested by PrayeR, were created by Tiger and Xa Software.
    Die or Die! Kristopher
    Orr's level's return!
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Now the US can really win!! More levels to medal!!!
    Hellevator Kristopher
    Created by ...lol.
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    Wow, very hard. Play the Newbie Pack.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Time Trial Champion. Wow.
    Cactus Time Trial Kristopher
    I've got gold on my level!
    Kristopher's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    This level is harder than it looks.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Going for Gold!! Haha. 12 Medals. Wait. Ten minutes later, I am winning!!
    Sz's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Congratulations, Sz! I thought I would need a fast freefall to land on the gun of the tank (from the parachutes).
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    We top four players were all winners in the last two hours.
    Who will win Die or Die!! ??
    Spike Mountain Time Trial Kristopher
    How hard do you think this level is? Harder than Sharper than Glass?

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    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Kristopher
    I've never been good at this level.
    Newbie Pack ...lol
    yay i have medals in all the levels i did.. wont last long
    ...lol's game on Way Up There ...lol
    no its not
    ...lol's game on Cactus Kristopher
    Hmmm... You take the medal on my level, and you don't even play your own level...
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Here are the authors of these levels. Tell me if I'm wrong.

    1(By Tiger)
    2(By Xa Software)
    3(By Tiger)
    4(By Xa Software)
    5(By Kristopher)
    6(By ...lol)
    7(By Dieter)
    8(By Tiger)
    9(By Xa Software)
    10(By Dieter)
    11(By Tiger)
    12(By Louis)
    13(By Draken)
    14(By Tiger)
    15(By Schneider)
    16(By Orr)
    ...lol's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    I kept dying at this one part, just over half way there.
    Newbie Pack ...lol
    wow parachute is probably the most annoying level ever.
    Newbie Pack Sz
    levelpack creator updated! (in alphabetical order)
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    After losing all of my golds within two hours, I make my comeback!! Six gold medals!!
    Sz's game on Parachute Sz
    yeah, i know this is sloooow but i'm proud i finished this annoying level AT LAST
    Parachute Time Trial Kristopher
    And I take gold with eight seconds to spare.
    Kristopher's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Kristopher
    Since everyone else is keeping theirs' a secret...
    Kristopher's game on Spiral Kristopher
    Beat you, ...lol.
    Snowstorm Time Trial Kristopher
    Like how I made a winter level from this?
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    I was right! The US is winning! Vin: why aren't you with us? How is the weather down there?
    Sz's game on Parachute Kristopher
    But, like Cave Dweller, it is fun if you can get really good at it. And it's not nearly as annoying as Up Stairs. That level is really hard!
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Welcome, Aleksey. You took me from the #1 spot in the Hall of Fame.
    Kristopher's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Kristopher
    Beat ...lol, again.
    Sz's game on Parachute Sz
    that's true and i'm surprised how fast i can occasionaly go over the parachutes (but then die jumping off the tank ). with proper training one could complete this level really fast (unlike cave dweller )
    Sharper Than Glass Time Trial Louis
    yeah really good

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    Snowstorm Time Trial monkeydave
    This feels a bit like a bottle level.
    Sz's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Vin said he could do 2:00:xx on Cave Dweller. I could probably do 2:10, which is much faster than some people, whose records are still 4 minutes.
    Sz's game on Parachute Schneider
    ehrmmm this is my level and its not anoying lol
    Parachute Time Trial Louis
    35 possible
    Newbie Pack Schneider
    parchute is mine and i like it its just special no t anoying lol
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial 7AK8G
    This level puts up a little challenge (I agree with Kristopher)
    Snowstorm Time Trial Vin
    botttle
    Newbie Pack Vin
    Happy to see a new lvlpack in HOF, but no offense, i cant believe some of these lvls are global ranking, theres at least 3-4 bottles and itll be pretty ridiculous when more people play it
    Newbie Pack Schneider
    i agree like shelf and flipper cactus and snowstorm but the others are decent
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Vin
    bottle
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    3 of those mentioned were selected by PrayeR, and noone had any comments for them. I actually removed some levels that were even more Bottle like. But, yes, SnowStorm is more Bottle like than I thought it would be.
    Oh, btw, I'm back up to second place.
    Jumping Trial Time Trial Kristopher
    There's a definant 35 second route.
    Louis's game on Spike Mountain Kristopher
    Wow, that's good.
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Kristopher
    Left or Right?
    Kristopher's game on Foothill Half Circle Kristopher
    Lots of flips.
    7AK8G's game on Cactus Kristopher
    Thanks for sharing. This level is slower than I thought.
    Parachute Time Trial Kristopher
    You think this is an annoying level? Would you rather have this instead?
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1062
    Ha Ha! Made you look!
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    It's been a great first day with this pack. And tomorrow, I will beat Die or Die!
    Sz's game on Parachute Sz
    "some people"... well... my best time is 5 minutes
    and of course this level is annoying but only for inexperienced players
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Vin
    i dont hav this lvl pack yet but on old double back jumps (i dont think u changed it except color, right), i got 21.98

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    Sharper Than Glass Time Trial Louis
    have 48 in my pack
    7AK8G's game on Cactus 7AK8G
    Yea. This level bugs me, you can't get much speed, and when you do - you die
    Newbie Pack 7AK8G
    These levels are pretty easy and fun!
    Kristopher's game on Hillz 7AK8G
    You're beating me by 2 milliseconds!
    nbcl's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. 7AK8G
    Thanks for sharing this one. Everyone else is keepin thier's secret...
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial nbcl
    Don't be so quick to write this one off as a bottle - there's still plenty of room for improvement.
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    My times:
    1-26.60, 2-25.84, 3-26.82, 4-23.34, 5-25.14, 6-24.40, 7-23.32, 8-26.68, 9-24.56, 10-22.08
    <BG>
    nbcl's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. nbcl
    Not really much to hide in this one - it's all about keeping momentum throughout. The changeover from bottom to top is probably the trickiest part.
    Sz's game on Parachute nbcl
    "only for inexperienced players"... shush, you. I just can't do this level at all
    Die or Die! Time Trial Kristopher
    I did it first! Oh, and it's not that hard, compared to Cave Dweller.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Bike or Die or Die! I took what is probably the best route, without and major slowdowns.

    later...

    It's hard how I got the flag under the thin line, but this is not the best route.
    Cactus Time Trial Kristopher
    This is not a Bottle level. It is short, but so is RSP2.
    And I don't think it's annoying, either.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    I'll be the leader until someone else beats Die or Die.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Sz
    congratulations!
    nbcl's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. 7AK8G
    Yea.

    I can get the first three flags w/o any problems - i keep dying when i do the transition from the bottom portion to the top portion.
    Die or Die! Time Trial Vin
    cool lvl btw i cant play this pack for probly a few weeks palm broke kinda sucks oh well get ready to lose all ur medals lol
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Louis
    bottle
    Louis's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    What do u say louis...
    Louis's game on Double-back Jumps Louis
    Tank U ur soooooo col
    Louis's game on Double-back Jumps Louis
    thanks vin.....................................................................................

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    Newbie Pack Vin
    Just a suggestion to Sz: To save a bunch a trouble, before too many people play these, i would remove flip that flipper and snowstorm for sure, and maybe shelf as in just 3-4 days, they are already looking like bottle, except the latter, which may change soon.
    Snowstorm Time Trial ...lol
    hey its not as bad as bottle.. i can still improve a little with my time.
    Spike Mountain Time Trial ...lol
    lol this level gives me head aches.. i hate it
    Parachute Time Trial ...lol
    i dont think this is really hall of fame material.. its like cloud walk just tons worse.
    Die or Die! Time Trial ...lol
    omfg its hard... i was screaming every time i died on it. grr at this level.. u sure this is right for the "newbie pack"
    ...lol's game on Snowstorm ...lol
    15.9X very possible
    Cactus Nate
    this level is so hard. I've tried to beat it a good 100 times already, and failed
    Snowstorm Time Trial Vin
    i know but soon, people will all hav same score
    Vin's game on Zip-Zap Polo
    very nice ^^
    Hall of fame on palm side ! Polo
    is a good idea.

    I want see only the first top 20 or top 30 scores from levels
    and my own level ranking
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial monkeydave
    bottle
    Snowstorm Time Trial monkeydave
    This level is even worse than bottle. All you do is hit the forward button the whole time.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus Sam.
    Is it possible to "hang on the top wire and ride to the finish? Thats what I have been trying
    Sam.'s game on Tatra Sam.
    that was not my best game by far...
    Shelf Time Trial Sam.
    this is a cool level. One that you can spend days trying to get a better time.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial ...lol
    so.. whoever gets the best time first wins.. that isnt too bad.
    Parachute Time Trial monkeydave
    I think even lower than 35 is possible. I had the red flag at 19 seconds and then died at the end.
    Parachute Time Trial Vin
    this lvl would be better without red flag so a free fall could be attempted at rright most part of the lvl, to avoid a drop at the beginning, the parachuters could hold bombs
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Vin
    ...then louis stole a kids palm i played it on with like a 22.16 time, and found my way and got gold, as soon as i get my palm ill land a 21 or low 22
    Jumping Trial Time Trial Vin
    no offense but theres a difference between a newbie pack and a no-skill pack. honestly, newbies should be able to do it, but theres should be many places in which to save time, so improvement can be made by those more skilled at the game, most of these lvls here have a low level of skill required to get a good time.

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    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Kristopher
    You all say it is Bottle, but noone else can get my time, so you're wrong. And any level could be a Bottle level, we people all got the same times.
    Kristopher's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Kristopher
    I never thought I would be good at this level.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Six new golds and I'm #2!!
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Kristopher
    Could someone tell me what I'm missing?
    Die or Die! Time Trial Kristopher
    It has been so long since we had new levels, we needed another hard level.
    Kristopher's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Spiral Time Trial 7AK8G
    This level can be a pain sometimes.
    Sharper Than Glass Time Trial 7AK8G
    This level is a pain-in-the-butt.

    I'm either going way too fast, or too slow (either way, I'll die )


    .:Better Keep Tryin:.
    SDC's game on Downhill Madness IZodiac
    Fluke or skill, that was cool to watch!
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Vin
    k u submitted today, 3 days after lvlpack came out, in a week u wont have gold and there will be lots of ties
    Sz's game on Parachute ZodiacfreaK
    I swear it must have taken me 300 tries today just to get 11th. I can get past the first set of parachutes and then the tank, but then I just allways crash on that last bloody jump. Most frustrating level i have ever played.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Vega's game on Underground Smalls
    Awesome!! First to get 16.**. That's incredible.
    Cactus Time Trial Kristopher
    Sorry, but that's funny. When you come down the stairs, you have to break, accelerate, and balance really fast to jump up. You can see my game...
    Parachute Time Trial Kristopher
    Yes, I'd guess 32 seconds within the next few days. Oh, Vin, the checkpoint is neccessary- not just to stop a freefall, but to make sure you land on top of that guy. I almost missed it.
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    Now you can play the Newbie Pack! Please do.
    Sz's game on Parachute Kristopher
    The falling part is not hard with this route. Keep trying, and soon it will be very easy. ZodiacFreak: You can open this level in Bike or Design, move the Start, and Test it, to practice the hard parts. Just don't save over this level.
    Sharper Than Glass Time Trial Kristopher
    I'd show my game, but it's worth keeping secret. Going to the flag, you have to go slowly, but balance and accelerate briefly every time you jump over the spikes in the canyon.
    Spiral Time Trial Kristopher
    No, I think it's one of the better levels. Just jump at the end, and it's easy!
    Jumping Trial Time Trial Kristopher
    True, but the easy-to-get-a-good-time thing is a first. We needed at least one level like this.

    Btw, this level has one other fun thing, not found in any other Hall of Fame level.

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    Shelf Time Trial Kristopher
    But it didn't take me that long.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus Kristopher
    Yes, I did that a few times and got 15.0x. I'll submit it later.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Kristopher
    War Monger
    Vega's game on Underground Sena
    wow, it's not easy to beat that one well done
    Vega's game on Underground DavidKing
    Congratulations, admire your perseverance and willpower .
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Thanks DK. Actually you nailed it....that's exactly what it was. I just knew I could do it and I wouldn't be denied. I have completed this level in 17.xx exactly 68 times (majority under 17.50) with only one at 16.xx! If anyone beats this, they can have the gold absolutely! I don't want to do this again.
    Way Up There Time Trial Kristopher
    Has anyone tried going backwards at the beginning?
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    2 More Golds (8 from 16 levels) and #1!!!
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    After literally 500 tries I have tied with 6.92, although I do believe it is possible to get a faster time. Its very interesting there are so many different ways to complete this level. I am still not sure at the moment which one is quicker.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Louis
    its a fricking bottle
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    19.xx club!
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial _alex_
    can some1 with a 6xx show their strategy
    Kristopher's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Kristopher
    Opened!!
    ...lol's game on Snowstorm ...lol
    feel free to beat this..
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial 7AK8G
    Uh - this might be a stupid question, but whats a bottle?
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Vega
    To 7AK8G - "Bottle" is level #2 on Master KO's levels. It has been excluded from the time trial competition because everyone's score is the same basically.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Vega
    I haven't even played this level and I can see already that it absolutely looks like a bottle level. Besides your ending is very strange lol. You don't even come close to the flag and your bike breaks down and you got GOLD! I'd say something isn't right.
    Ideas Polo
    restart culd be a map buton
    Actually the restart function can be done tapping on top right the screen, it can also done presing a key?

    pd. sorry for my bad english, y just more training
    (i Talk spanish)
    Medals by Country Smalls
    I think that the medals should have point values. A gold is worth 3, silver 2, and bronze 1. That seems to be the most fair, and competitive way to do it.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    Dude thats really od. I have played this rack 800+ times and the best I can get is 6.92. Looks like the frame of your bike went through the wall and possibly hit the pole of the flag first....

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    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Tying a bronze medal time is lame. You get nothin
    Newbie Pack Vin
    and after 2 days i take gold by 22 points..yayy ps. i lose my palm on monday prob for a few weeks so u can get medals back then...
    Vin's game on Parachute Vin
    haha louis
    Spiral Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    I spent my whole night (360 games) just trying to medal on this level. Man I was so happy when i finally did. I found a little something and I think if I improve in it just a tiny bit I can take the gold. But we will see.
    Spiral Time Trial Vin
    i can get 25.0x
    Medals by Country Vin
    i say 4-2-1, give some pride to the gold but yeah, this maybe should be changed, davidking has a truckload of bronzes
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... 7AK8G
    You know, there are ways of hacking levels using apps such as "FILEZ".

    This could be the work of a hacker, but I doubt it.

    Maby a glitch in the game?
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial 7AK8G
    Ohh. Thx!

    I thought bottle was a term for a certian kind of level.

    I agree,

    this level is a <h1>BOTTLE</h1>
    Vega's game on Underground The Veenk
    That's Tight you beat my record I had for over 6 months
    Spiral Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    I cant
    Jumping Trial Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Tree trunks?
    Spiral Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    I have played this level 763 times in one night. I swear I never want to see this level again in my life. Props to those that beat my time. It must have taken you days.
    Vin's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. _alex_
    your completly dominating this pack!
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Vega
    That's pretty funny dude. I mean, I know this doesn't look quite right....but hacking the game!? ....that was good
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Tabs
    There are slight glitches in BoD.
    Look at level Equisplateral in Summer Pack.

    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    do you go left or right at the begginging plz tell
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... DavidKing
    Basically, this is Lucky Level, only need perseverance to try constantly, but ...1ol you still very nice.
    Spiral Time Trial Vin
    i hav 53 tries on this lvl i was surprised with the gold
    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    ive gotten 22.2x going both ways
    Spiral Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    You jerk!

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    Report a bug You Qi
    Option to disable "PgUp go to next level"
    I found this is annoying especially when you are concentrating playing a level. This function only useful for levelpack that we haven't play. I found that the feature sometimes working kinda buggy, when you accelerate to the final flag and got a BestTime, after you enter your name and press OK, the screen just automaticcaly jump to the next level. What making me fed up is when the next level takes 20sec to load(like Newbie Level Pack's Sharper Than Flass level).
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    You're right. Sorry lol but it doesn't even look very fast. Interesting. Maybe you ARE a hacker......hee hee
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    it looks slow when he hits the ground, but his end is picture perfect, a huge leap
    Tabs's game on Foothill Half Circle Vin
    that seems hard for me to beat, well played
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Vin
    nice i agree plus i saw it on his palm and it looks less glitchy, but still who votes we view this as a bottle and remove from competition?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Yes the end is why it's a 12 flat. 1st half is ok but it was a good spring to fly over half the level.
    Vega's game on Underground Vin
    deserves a vote...i wish i could pull this off, always wonderered it possible...
    Time Trial Champions Vin
    wow i dint notice i was 8th, still have 4 or five lvls in you qi/summer to complete
    Medals by Country Vin
    and india pulls into fourth
    Vin's game on Spike Mountain Vin
    38 possible but HARD
    DavidKing's game on Way Up There Vin
    thats insane, honestly how? btw nice job lol
    Medals by Country Vin
    ...i mean third, haha USA i school
    Ideas 7AK8G
    Submit all levels instead of the levels on the currently-being-used pack
    I noticed that whenever I submit levels, i have to switch between like 7 different packs to submit all my times.

    Like i would switch to standard levels -> submit
    switch to Master KO's levels -> submit

    Could there be a button where its like [submit all times]?
    Medals by Country MunkYBoY
    freaking a vin, cant you sit still in one country for longer than a week? lol tho you are making a name for all the other countries i guess.
    Spiral Time Trial Vin
    24 is possible..speaking of 24, anyone watch it?
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    Nice job. Did you get these ideas from watching my replay? Kristopher made this level in the 'standard revisted' pack with the bombs all the way up to the top. Is this open yet? I don't really understand how that all works yet. If everyone starts to play that level, wouldn't it make sense to try for the best time on that one since it will count for something if you do well?
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    Tell me about it. I got robbed of countless runs because of this glitch. Kristopher says the flag has a circular center. Sometimes I wouldn't even touch the flag and it would be completed and sometimes my tire would go right thru it and it failed......??? Just keep trying because this would have been good for a 17.20 or so game. You are doing a lot right here.
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    That's rough bro. You had it.
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    I KNOW!!! ugh whatever its like 2 places but still...
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    No dont remove it! Its like the only chance I got at a medal

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    Spiral Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Apparantly I think I am not starting out correctly. Because I am almost positive I cant get any faster on the second part.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Vin
    well how it worked for bottle was the winners get to keep their medals, so if anything ur bronze would be more secure, as less shoot for 6.8x or 6.90, anyways, is anyone with me *cough*vega*cough*kristopher*cough*davidking*ccough*tabs*
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    well i saw fofos for the bump head trick i couldnt find urs till after, otherwise my end would be better, just pop and hit flag instead of breaking...so 25.6x possible probabalycuz my transfer wasnt great (to upper portion)...i dont understand ur comment what r u saying, that i should play standard revisited more, or his underground should be HOF or what
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    sorry for second post, just to fix a mistake it was not fofos, but sumone else's it was a freestyle...
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    I agree that a faster time is possible here. Let's see who does it first. Also, The Standard Revisited Pack has this level that forces you to do the whole course. How come nobody has posted a time yet? Is it not open? This is what I don't quite understand. Are those not part of the time trials yet?
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    see this replay http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=46558
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Here's one I did just before I nailed the 16.88.
    Here my tire actually touches the flag at about 16.9 and it failed. So if all the planets aline this is actually possible to land a 16.xx with this flip trick. Not easy to do tho
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Sena
    Just lucky I hate to say it...
    Vin's game on Underground Vin
    only selected lvls are selected for world ranking and you can upload ur times such as standard, si lun, you qi, or, master kos, and this newbie pack that just came out (not worthy) haha anyways, standardf revisited is just a lvl pack that kris made and has not been selected
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Vin
    still dont like this lvl...but opened.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    Well if I get to keep my medal go ahead and delete it. Thats ok with me.
    Vin's game on Vanilla Sky _alex_
    prepare for gus to bump u!
    Vin's game on Underground Vega
    Thanks for explaining Vin. How do people decide which levels are going to be selected? Voting system or something?
    Shelf Time Trial Gus
    this is defenetly a bottle lvl,
    unless some1 manages to break their wheel through the ground
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Kristopher
    Leave it in for now. Better times are possible. I got lucky with my time - it was my only one under 7 seconds, but better times will come.
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Time Trial Kristopher
    37 seconds...
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    Then stop playing it!!!!!
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Say "Hi" to Mrs. Mahal for me...
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    sorry ...lol but thanks for sharing
    Vega's game on Underground Tabs
    Fantastic stuff Vega.That time will last a while I think.

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    Vin's game on Underground Kristopher
    Most levels will never be in the Hall of Fame, so you can't see replays on most of the levels. Sz picks the levels for the Hall of Fame, from levels that have already been submitted, either a whole levelpack or miscellaneous levels, but I picked the levels for the Newbie Pack, based on suggestions in the Biker's Cafe by PrayeR.
    Newbie Pack Vin
    no more palm for me...
    Kristopher's game on Hellevator Vin
    thats nuts, i could neverf beat this...anyways, no palm...
    Die or Die! Time Trial 7AK8G
    OMGWTFBBQ!!!

    I still can't beat this level! I keep hitting my guies head on the rock that goes lower than your normal head pos. Otherwise, I'd of beaten it by now =/
    Spike Mountain Time Trial 7AK8G
    This actually wasn't that hard. You just gotta start out w/ the right momentum and keep it - if you manage, you'll do just fine!
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    I've already done that and got sub 8.xx.
    I'm not sure if I should post it though.

    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    POST IT
    i want to see
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    ok.
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    I sort of half expected it could be done.That wall is
    a bit thin.

    Shelf Time Trial Vega
    That's crazy. There goes the cool factor of this level tho. Kind of a bummer eh? It would have been funny if you had kept it secret Tabs so everyone would have gone ballistic trying to match it. hee hee
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    I think with the time being so quick folks would
    know some sort of jiggery pokery had gone on Vega so
    its best the movie is kept unsecret.




    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Smalls
    I say pull it. It is just too quick, and will turn to a huge tie.
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    You want me to beat you?
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    I don't know if I can. If I have time, I will try.
    frizzhead9's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. frizzhead9
    yo ho
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    Brother of Equisplateral Level, Tabs is such talent, very good.
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com DavidKing
    I know that there is not an eternal gold medal, everybody may beat me.
    Shelf Time Trial Vega
    I don't know Tabs...all those gold medals. They might have just thought...hey it's Tabs. Just kiddin. You are right.
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    "bottle", I get 07,74 of 5 times in succession.
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    Inconceivable, I get 07,74 over 10 times in 5 minutes, http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?pt=1&p=1515&s=26, I do not want to upload again.

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    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    more of bottle than equispateral, who votes we remove this and just hav competition for its medal if at all
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    If I Opened, may everybody has the same time, I get 07,74 over 50 times.
    DavidKing's game on Shelf DavidKing
    Super "bottle"
    DavidKing's game on Shelf DavidKing
    may 07,74 is the best time, but I want to see that someone beat this time, I already get 07,74 over 150 times, this is my only time to obtain.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Not quite a bottle yet. Check out my new time. Actually its pretty easy to get 6.XX i can easily repeat it. I'll give you a hint. It's all about timing.
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    If remove this alone, may be a bit unfair, because "Master KO's Levels - bottle" medal is effectual, have some level similar to "bottle" too in addition.
    Tabs's game on Shelf Kristopher
    I tried to do this but I never came close! Thanks for sharing.
    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    This is not my route, btw.
    DavidKing's game on Shelf Kristopher
    Why would you play this 150 times if you have the gold??
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    I thought I'd spend a few days in India, too.
    DavidKing's game on Shelf DavidKing
    I want to surmount 07,74, but has failed.
    Tabs's game on Shelf Tabs
    7.74 seems to be some kind of cosmic barier.
    Medals by Country Vin
    enjoy ur stay, btw i hav no palm so get some medals and beat usa
    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! Vin
    not mine either
    Tabs's game on Shelf DavidKing
    I think that everybody will be 07,74 ,this may be limit.
    Newbie Pack ZodiacfreaK
    I am sorry Vin. I dont know what it would be like to live without a palm for a while. Thats why I keep three backups. 3 Tapwave Zodiacs (one is my dads) and a tungsten T. That way I am never alone.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    You should not have shwown your video. I know the secret now. And have contributed to it myself
    DavidKing's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    I have to get 7.74 before the third person gets it.... must secure medal.....
    Shelf Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Oww this sucks within about 1 minute of me beating this at 7.74 a guy got the bronze before me. Crap. That ticks me off. lol
    Tabs's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Its wierd I cannot for the life of me get below 7.74. I think eventually it may be possible but not without a different technique.

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    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    wow.. nice time
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    yay gold =)
    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm _alex_
    another gold!
    =) = =)
    Polo's game on Sharper Than Glass Polo
    Slow start, Fast Ending
    File Was not uploades Polo
    thx for the fix ^^

    i fell better
    DavidKing's game on Shelf Polo
    is no fear.. :S

    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    wow mi fist medal i'm so happy
    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    .. ya me pasaron .. pero di la pauta
    Polo's game on Cactus Vega
    Oh Wait! Pick me me me Let me guess......ummmmm....you went thru the wall to get the flag! Yes?
    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    Yes i Think was not idea.
    this level got a bug
    Cactus Time Trial Vin
    god, bugs on this pack....
    Polo's game on Cactus Vin
    just a hint to someone who figures out such a trick and wants to keep gold, waitr 2 seconds, then do the run, you hav 11.90, and everyone thinks, wow nice run...haha in a day ull be 10th at best tho now..
    DavidKing's game on Cactus Polo
    share!! :X
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    sz please remove, but let david, tabs, and magnus keep medals
    Cactus Time Trial Vin
    at leat it involves some skill, id say 7.5-8.5 range possible
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ...lol
    i dont really care.. take the gold...lol.
    Polo's game on Cactus Vega
    By the way when I made my comment at the top this was a secret video - just incase anyone thinks I'm slightly retarded and wasn't watching the video as I was 'guessing' what Polo did.
    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    por favor sus comentarios en español ^^ miren que no entiendo mucho ingles, como sea la idea de ser acaparador nome gusta
    mucho
    (ahora traduzcan ustedes mejor)
    Polo's game on Cactus Vin
    i dont know spanish. haha.
    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    yes, buy i understan some english, and use translators in the web ^^ more easy

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    Polo's game on Vanilla Sky Polo
    Alternate starting :S
    Vin's game on Cactus Vin
    i think 8.40s my breaking point...at least with polo's route
    Smalls's game on Foothill Half Circle Gavin S.
    wow, good job!
    Medals by Country Gavin S.
    COME ON US!!!!!!!! WE ARE GETTING SCHOOLED!
    magnus's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Looks alot like a ghost user made just so I couldn't secure the bronze medal!
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Gavin: Vin and I are from the US. When things settle down from the Newbie Pack, I will move back there.
    Vin: We are beating US, and many more.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    I am opening this game, as it is now obsolete.
    Cactus Time Trial Kristopher
    I tested this a lot before adding it to the Newbie Pack - I even changed it so I could crash into the wall faster, but could still not get the Finish flag through the wall, so I did not think this was possible. And I'm still not sure how to do it.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    But do you take three Palms to school every day, like I do?
    Btw, I look like I'm paying attention when playing Bike or Die on the WristPDA.
    Bill's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    This is closer to my route, but I am surprised by how it is different. The extra length makes this route harder, but my route has one part that looks very hard to do.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Vega
    Well this is really cool anyway Kristopher. Well done. I guess people will be careful when creating future levels not to put a flag right next to a thin wall again eh? Kind of a bummer because it really wrecks the level. Oh well.
    magnus's game on Shelf Vega
    You're right Zodiac. That's pretty lame of whoever did this. Their profile should be deleted.
    Ideas Kristopher
    Online Flash Replays Suggestions
    The online replays are one of the best things about this site, so I think they could use some improvement. A timer showing the seconds would be nice; maybe you could even do an analog clock. I know there are some menu options when you right-click on a movie, but some extra controls, such as fast forward, would be great! (Especially for Bill's Die or Die )
    Kristopher's game on Shelf Kristopher
    55:xx is very possible.
    Snowstorm Time Trial Kristopher
    There is skill used in this level. It's not that bad, yet.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    Someone asked about this...
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    The ground seems to stop noone. For future levels, either more checkpoints, or obstacles preventing the shortcut. At least it is harder than Shelf, still.
    magnus's game on Shelf Kristopher
    IP address tracking could find the responsible person... irresponsible person.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Vin
    i nailed this trick with a 9.xx on my first try and cant get shelf at all ):
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    just beat myself and tabs is going into 5 with the times my freinds got

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    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    21:06
    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm _alex_
    i think this might b the perfect game..
    thanks to a small gliitch
    Shelf Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Hey sz. Yeah I agree with vin about deleting it. But it really looks like magnus is a ghost user made so no-one else could get an obvious medal. If you could check the IP addresses that would be great. I just think its rather odd that a noob would comlpete this with 7.74 as his first ever time.
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    ok
    magnus's game on Shelf _alex_
    this is magnus! hes my freind at school he is not a ghost user!
    magnus's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Yes but you played the level for him to get this time. I still dont think that is fair to me. Magnus did not beat this level at this time.
    magnus's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Wow so you from london england go to school from someone from oslo, Norway??!!! Wow that doesnt make any sense whatsoever. I vote that this time should be deleted.
    magnus's game on Shelf Kristopher
    Do your friends have Palms, or do they only use your's at school?
    Shelf Time Trial Gus
    magnus is real i no the guy he goes 2 my skool
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Vega
    I still don't buy it. A brand new person cannot play BOD like this.
    magnus's game on Shelf Vega
    Oh no Magnus is real. He's a brand new person... He's a prodigy! He also scored a bronze on the snow level... uh huh ya right. He's a POSER!
    Shelf Time Trial Sz
    yeah, it's a bottle
    for now it will be removed from the overall ranking (like  Bottle Time Trial). but on the other hand, simple levels like this can be useful, especially in "Newbie" pack (meant to give change to everyone), they only need a different scoring method... like giving 10 points for each second and disregarding the actual ranking.
    magnus's game on Shelf Sz
    IP and other data from recordings suggest that _alex_, Gus and magnus at least live close to each other but there is no way to prove that one of them is a ghost user because there is no DNA scanning implemented in the game
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    magnus secret your game!
    magnus's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Yes I understand that , but Magnus did not get this time on this level. Alex admitted to me that he had played it for him.
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    Very nice al
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    thx but tell magnus to secret his game!
    magnus's game on Snowstorm ZodiacfreaK
    What I am trying to tell everyone is that Magnus is not the one playing these levels. For some random reason Alex decided to upload the times on certain levels to magnus's account. In return magnus must have done something for him. Alex PM'ed me a day or two ago saying that if I gave him 6.80 on flip that flipper he would get me good times on 10 levels of my choice. He went on to say he had allready done this for several other members. I told him no because I think that totally defeats the purpose of getting the times yourselves. I think this is a little unfair. People should not play games for other people to get them good times. The whole point is that each individual person tries his best to get a better time.
    Shelf Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    Yes I know magnus is a real guy..... thats not what I am trying to say. What I am saying is that Magnus did not get these times on these levels. Alex played the levels for him and uploaded under his username.
    magnus's game on Shelf Sz
    well, if someone really "sells" good scores then it is more worrying than i thought
    people, this is only a game, let's play it fair!
    it should be possible to find all recordings made by _alex_ and remove accounts of all players involved... but i would prefer to solve this problem peacefully. cheaters - if you confess your sins (not neceserily in public) i will only remove the offending recordings and noone will be harmed

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    Shelf Time Trial MunkYBoY
    wow, didnt see that coming
    O so close's game on Underground Kristopher
    Just a hunch, but I think this is a ghost player.
    Kristopher's game on Shelf Kristopher
    I only did this once; I was surprised to get 7:74 on my sucessful play of this route.
    magnus's game on Shelf Kristopher
    Why not add DNA scanning? The camera could watch the players as they play and attach their picture to each recording, and then put the picture through a database of DNAs... Maybe not...
    Shelf Time Trial Kristopher
    I doubt PrayeR did, either, when he suggested this level for the Newbie Pack.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    About Bottles... Shelf was obviously not planned, but for the other levels, as short as they are, they are not Bottles. Downhill Madness is proof that, even though 40 people can get similiar times, there will not be too many tied times. Please stop critizing the levels for being to short. That was the idea of this pack, since the idea of the Summer Pack was long levels. And although I didn't think the shortcut was possible on Cactus, it doesn't completely ruin this level, as it is still hard and there is not a definite, exact way to do it.
    DavidKing's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    Interesting... one part is different from mine.
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Kristopher
    Ya. Who cares if Magnus is a real person if he doesn't play BOD? Delete, or move all Magnus times to alex.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    This is hilarious, because I took the shortcut and only saved .02 seconds!
    Kristopher's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    This was a bit lucky, but is very improvable.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus ZodiacfreaK
    I think I got a really fast time on this level. I will do some more experimenting but I am pretty sure you can complete this level a whole lot faster.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus You Qi
    hey, I remember this game wasn't "secret" just now!
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus ZodiacfreaK
    Yeah I freaked out once it was uploaded and it said View Movie. It was never meant to be opened. I just accidently clicked the check box on the palm. I do that alot
    Polo's game on Cactus Polo
    i want see better time under 8.xx
    magnus's game on Shelf Vega
    I agree completely with ZodiakFreak and SZ. I could go around to 9 different people and wipe out the top ten players on several levels by playing as other users but that's cheating. One of the greatest things about BOD is that you are able to compete with other outstanding players. May the best man (or woman ) win right? Anyways unless you are looney cheating won't satisfy you in the end ....excellence will. Ok I am stepping down from the pulpit now...hee hee
    Vin's game on Cactus Polo
    thx for credits
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    I highly doubt that, maybe a few, but that is a good time, and will probably give you a medal for a long time, even if it's not gold.
    Tips Gavin S.
    just watch other people play their levels
    Report a bug Blank
    Key Press Bug on Zire 31
    Hey all, I've noticed for a while that sometimes during the game, (particularly after ive pressed up a few too many times) that the bike keeps accelerating at full bawl or brakes way too hard. Is this a zire thing?!!?
    Cactus Blank
    I managed to just get a good run up from the far right end. I balanced right before the stairs, to gain maximal length on the jump, and somehow it worked.

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    Blank's game on Cactus Blank
    haha i did it differently to Kristopher: he suggests going back down the stairs after you get the flag, and somehow getting up the square bit. I just did a run up instead
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Blank
    I like this but the only problem is i've done it similarly (and dare i say better?)

    I flipped up to the platform, but kept on flipping and managed to flip simultaneously all the way down to the middle bottom. From there the rest was easy.
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way ZodiacfreaK
    OMG! How on earth do you get your bike to do a flip! I have been trying to do that for years! It is so hard! dude wtf? I have no clue why this is even in the freestyle competetion. Theres nothing cool about it. Every single person that has played this level over 10 times has done it way cooler than that.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus Vin
    that seems hard for me with the way i hit the wall...with polo's way if someone gets lucky 7.xx is possible
    PrayeR's game on Sawtooth Vin
    if anyone still cases bout standard after new pack, check this out... http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=44697 a 20.xx is possible
    News Sz
    Bike or Die v1.3h
    Only one new feature in this version:
  • By selecting "Other..." in Control Options you can configure any button to perform the given action, even if it is not listed in the popup, like the alphanumeric Treo keyboard. This should work on all devices having additional buttons not known to "Bike or Die".

    And 2 small changes:
  • Menu key is also blocked by "disable other keys" on Treo 650 (but shortcuts still work)
  • Menu+Q shortcut for "Quit" (very useful on Treo 650 with Home key disabled)
  • magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    this 1 i didnt do for magnus i only got him the time on shelf this 1 he did after seeing my movie
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    by the way nice time 20:86 =)gonna b hard to beat 4 me
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    soz if im ruining the game by helping magnus a few lvls but i never get him times above my own or i make the my name this 1 he actually did himself and if your not allowed to help freinds on the game then mayb that should b posted somewhere
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    p.s thanks zodiacfreak for making me get my own times
    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm _alex_
    got a new time 15 : 84
    =)
    ...lol's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    ye i did it =)
    magnus's game on Shelf _alex_
    zodiac in response to your comment we all go to the same school in switzerland and the time i had actually got magnus was 0.02 slower 7:76 he must have compied my stratagy and got himself that time and anyway wy would i make up an account called magnus and get that time for him wen i could of had myself an extra bronz!
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    Thx but i think u can beat it
    magnus's game on Shelf Gus
    course we all live near, we go to the same school, all we do is say where we're from not where we are living
    magnus's game on Shelf Gus
    btw we all have our own palms
    magnus's game on Shelf Gus
    yet another point; if we were one person then why would we get medals on different accounts? Why not just one?
    magnus's game on Shelf _alex_
    thank you gus at least some1 understands wat ive been going on about! and the time i acidently got while i was playing on his palm that was 7:76! remember
    magnus's game on Shelf Gus
    ye and u werent 2 happy bout saving as him were u? lol
    magnus's game on Shelf Gus
    magnus stand up for yourself! tell them u r a genuine user!

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    magnus's game on Shelf _alex_
    magnus is probably playing world of warcraft or forgot his pass lol
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    nice =)
    Cactus Time Trial Vin
    not to steal ur thunder blank, but I think evryone has done that leap
    second, whos making all the ghosts? thats just wrong
    sz mind doing ur ip magic withh those recordings and each individual above them i.e. jon, polo, alex, david, smalls, me, zodiac. (i doubt its a lot of those people but its gotta be someone)
    Cactus Time Trial Vin
    nvm im almost positive its prince jon, he submitted at 10am today, same with the other ones...dk what we should do if it is him...
    Cactus Time Trial ZodiacfreaK
    WTF!! Why dont I get a ghost nickname?
    #8 davids dick 0:09,56 View Movie
    #9 kris christ 0:09,60 (Secret)
    #10 alexs ass 0:09,62 View Movie
    #11 smals/miget 0:09,62 View Movie
    #12 louis balls 0:09,68 View Movie
    #13 virgin vin 0:09,88 View Movie
    These newest developments are very sadly disturbing.
    Cactus Time Trial Sz
    yes, it was prince jon...
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    Can everyone d/l and use my levelpack? Just curious...
    Bike or Die v1.3h MunkYBoY
    oh cripe shaith an update!
    Vin's game on Sawtooth Vin
    could've been a high 19 or low 20
    _alex_'s game on Double Sprint Vega
    This is all coming together now eh? I notcied something was strange on Feb 1.
    Die or Die! Time Trial Sz
    almost completed this level today! 9/9 and failed while riding back to the finish flag
    _alex_'s game on Double Sprint Vega
    Looks like they have been doing this on levels for a while....check out PrinceJon's 21.36 replay from the day before...... http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=44328
    Kristopher's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... 7AK8G
    This helps alot!

    I now know what I've been doing wrong!
    Smalls's game on Hellevator 7AK8G
    You lost about a second at the last part.
    Cactus Time Trial Vin
    i still think the nickname he gave me was most innovative...
    lol weirdo... i see his real time was removed as well, good...
    ...lol's game on Snowstorm 7AK8G
    It appears that you have been:

    BEATEN (not by me)
    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm 7AK8G
    omfg, how'd you do it?

    Gus's game on Sharper Than Glass DZ
    can improve beginning by few seconds


    I have 9.5 second beginning


    (beginning = end of spikes)
    Smalls's game on Hillz DZ
    can improve first jump to get flag, too slow, wheel leaves ground too early
    Hillz Time Trial DZ
    Vin's way is best, his time is slow for it though

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    Die or Die! Time Trial You Qi
    I still can't complete the 2nd time!
    DZ's game on Hillz Vin
    nice end
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks mike flips
    Vote for this - it has an insane flipping, a few sweet wheelies, a daredevil drop, and an awesome finish
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    Hey people if you check out newest first, you will see 3 freestyles on Standard lev 18 (touch bricks)
    I managed to put each one under a different name. Only look at "mike flips" because that one is the best!!!
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    There are about four or five tricks in here and I think Mr. King nailed most if not all of them.
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    20:90 coming up
    magnus's game on Shelf magnus
    i am not a ghost I have been playing for the same time as alex and gus but I only managed to submit recenty.
    BTW i had this time for about a wekk before I managed to submit
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    21:84 in your face!
    btw thx for giving me the tactic and the few goes on your palm while my palms in repair =)
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    i h8 u, u pest!
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    20.82 in your face al!!
    Gus's game on Sharper Than Glass Gus
    ye the beginning is slow but ending is quite quick
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    I'm sorry I posted this game now.(It made me loose
    my gold for a start).

    Believe me - I was in 2 minds whether to post it
    or not knowing it would become a 'bottle' level.

    DavidKing's game on Cactus ZodiacfreaK
    Wow good time. I think you used a different method other than polo's correct?
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    stuffed u al. your turn...
    Tabs's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    get third to get u.k the medals!
    Shelf Time Trial Vega
    Don't sweat it Tabs....this was bound to get discovered sooner or later. You just did it first.
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    nice.....
    Fruits Time Trial mike flips
    if u go to the menu and save the game too early it sometimes does that u have to wait until it finishes saying completed
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    sry for requesting tabs, i didnt know either, ill take the blame for this bottle, but it'd have been figured sooner or later...still think a better time looks possible, very peculiar to have so many ties.
    Newbie Pack MunkYBoY
    well my question is why you cant just, on the shelf level, omit all the 7 second times.

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    Smalls's game on Shelf Smalls
    Best time without going through the wall! I think that this way should be the only accepted route. Is that possable to do Sz?
    Newbie Pack Vin
    kris, i agree that 18+ ish lvls are not bottles, but if u have a 6 second lvl that you can just get lucky on like ...lol and pull gold, Thats not 'giving newbies a chance, its just stupid. ill tell you what lvls i dont like right now: shelf, flip the flipper, and snowstorm, one has already been removed, i guarantee u at least one more (flipper) will be as well.
    magnus's game on Shelf Vin
    are u claiming that u discovered the trick before tabs submitted his game? and got the would-be gold medal?
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    no hacker, just amazing RSP2 player
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    Tabs, I feel uneasy, as I obtain 07,74 for the first time, I am not regarded as very good time, I think that you will defeat me quickly, I have not expected to make you sad, really very sorry.
    DavidKing's game on Cactus DavidKing
    ZodiacfreaK, I think that is not very difficult, I think that you can surmount me.
    Shelf Time Trial Tabs
    No David - you beat my time fair and square.
    My intial time was 7.94 (I think) and you got a better
    time.

    I find all these 7.74 times a bit odd - I've tried to
    do better but no luck so far.
    Shelf Time Trial DavidKing
    I have no Opened before this, is afraid of someone getting the silver or bronze easily, I hope that Tabs can get the silver medal (that He are finds this trick after all), may you can get better time, good luck.
    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! jonas
    this is my record
    i didn't want to set the point after my name
    i thing the other route isn't more quick my other record is the same route and i'm 6 secs faster, Vin
    but Kristopher made a new highscore with his route so i try to do it in his way
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    come on someone get 20.xx, its not that hard!
    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! Vin
    i nearly had a 2:04 with my route...this game of mine is terrible for my route, im pre5tty sure i have kris's
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Vin
    then show us
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    happy vin?
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Vin
    sry for asking...but thanks for showing...its an impressive time but the only diff i see is the end, is that it?
    Vin's game on Way Up There Vin
    opened...hopefully others might too
    Vin's game on Way Up There Vin
    i dont think i cn improve on this much...certainly not more than .5 seconds...david or monkey, mind telling me what im doing wrong?
    Vin's game on Way Up There DavidKing
    After you obtain the 5th flag, should accelerate jumping over the concave part directly.
    DavidKing's game on Shelf 7AK8G
    This has outta be the biggest bottle level out there!

    [as someone mentioned - a "SUPER BOTTLE"!!]
    Vin's game on Parachute 7AK8G
    Your comment is so mean, lolololol!!!

    Theory Of Chaos Borszczuk
    Anyone played? Notes? Comments?

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    Smalls's game on Shelf Vega
    I agree. This is a pretty cool level if played correctly. What about making a simple and doable rule like the one Smalls is suggesting above. Any recording in the top 20 that shows someone going through the wall should be removed. Simple as that. All of the people who have already submitted 7:74 can just redo it the right way and they will be ranked accordingly. **Tabs**, **DavidKing**, **Kristopher**, **Vin** - What do you think about that?
    Theory Of Chaos Vega
    Haven't played them but I think these levels look like a blast! They are all unique and none of them will be bottle levels
    Ideas Gavin S.
    Competition against palms!
    Being able to connect 2 or 3 palms using bluetooth or WiFi would be so much fun! if all of them could play on the same level at the same time. just an idea to build on. i think it would be amazing considering me and my friends are always playing the game together.
    DavidKing's game on Teapot Gavin S.
    holy cow! thats amazing
    magnus's game on Shelf ZodiacfreaK
    Sorry Magnus but that is total BULL****
    DavidKing's game on Cactus ZodiacfreaK
    Hmm I have 8.30 currently. I still can't get it down below this but I do see that it is surely possible.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! 7AK8G
    Make it public, lol!
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    Yeah!!
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    Look at the flips I get in the last minute.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Did I mention I got this route on the second day of the Newbie Pack competition? I only beat it once, but I still have the gold! And being that hard to beat, without being a perfected game, I am keeping it secret.
    Vin's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    This looks slow. I jumped near the jump sign, and went faster after the forth flag.
    Kristopher's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    I also got 50:04.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    Stop waiting for them to be removed. It probably won't happen. Bottles happen when everyone can take the exact same route. On Shelf, you just had to hold accelerate at a certain time, and hold balance-left at a certain time. It's not that way on Level 3.
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    See how fast my wheel was going through to the finish?
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    These levels are now listed at Palmgear.com!

    http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&PartnerREF=&siteid=1&catid=0&area=software.allfreeware&searchtitle=Freeware&searchterm=&step=1&orderby=modificationdate&direction=asc&userid=0&prodid=119434
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Kristopher
    I didn't see it!
    Smalls's game on Shelf Kristopher
    To do it, the server version of this level would have another red flag, on the bottom left. That would be good, but it might be confusing for people who win in 7:74 on the Palm, and then fail when watching online.
    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps Kristopher
    I could get a medal. I haven't played this in over a week!
    Shelf Time Trial Kristopher
    Yes, all the 7:74 times are very unusual, but that is the level's fault.
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial DavidKing
    cool!!!

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    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Suggestion: Bike or Die could confirm every time you chang your name, so it is not changed accidentally.
    magnus's game on Shelf Kristopher
    How do you explain that Magnus does not have a 7:76 game?? And if alex helped him get this, then alex claims to have also figured this out before Tabs. :O
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    Each player only gets one Freestyle entry. Do not use multiple names.
    Die or Die! Time Trial 7AK8G
    AHH! I got 9/9 but died on the rail thing going to to flag!!!

    I'm so mad at myself >
    Competition against palms! Blank
    how about us infrared-ers?
    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm _alex_
    to be honest idk ..lol =)i jsut went a bit slower than usual pretending i was on the moon =)but i dont think this is perfect so ill keep it secret for now
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There _alex_
    nice 1 mokeydave =)
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    nice!
    magnus's game on Shelf _alex_
    agnus wat the hell r u talking bout jon came in sying there was a new time on shelf then i tryed it out on your pLM AND GOT 7:76 cos i lost time at begining then u went and perfected that game but not til u got home or something!
    _alex_'s game on Spike Mountain _alex_
    i secret my game in shame =(
    Snowstorm Time Trial _alex_
    i dont think this lvl will be a bottle for quite some time and i doubt that any1 will be able to get my time soon
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    when u gonna show your game?
    Newbie Pack _alex_
    have any of the lvls been removed?
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Time Trial _alex_
    wat about 37 seconds?
    The Veenk's game on Underground The Veenk
    I'm going to catch ya
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Gus
    Very nice!
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    my.. my bronze.. lost ... =(
    nice game though=)
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Vin
    wanna open up now?
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Vin
    cool i got a 20.94 tied dk, but i did it on someone else's palm...also got some other stuff, not any medals i dont think...
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    i got it (7.74) on first rote completion, but i dont think ill submit it...a bit of a protest ( btw how do u do smileys?

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    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    wow i just guessed and got a smiley, nvm haha
    DavidKing's game on Cactus Smalls
    Do you think that 7** is possible?
    RTIP's game on Floors RTIP
    C´mon this is real FREESTYLE!
    PV! Thanks...
    Vin's game on Parachute Vin
    lol he was bragging about his game so much and was like 'thats gonna stay for a long time' (props to him tho for calling this a cloudwalk lvl cuz eventually, times have potential to go sub-28) but anyways, i play for a bit and beat his...by .02, that was awesome
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Yes, it is now opened as promised, Vin and MonkeyDave. This was very well played, and was even a hard route, but it is not the best route. Actually, I just played a different route and will have the gold when I submit tomorrow. The new route is actually quite easy.
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! 7AK8G
    InCrEdIbLe!
    Blank's game on The Right Way Blank
    Mmmm flips... This isnt my best attempt at this level...
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Aleksey
    Original Way
    DavidKing's game on Cactus DavidKing
    Certainly, need some skills to reach.
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    kristophers way?
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    You can't get this time with my 2:02 route. It's too hard that way. But, did I mention I will submit a 1:53 soon?
    Die or Die! Time Trial Kristopher
    My 2:02 route that noone else has done:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=46435
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Aleksey
    My Way
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    That one part at the end was lucky.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Cactus Time Trial Kristopher
    The normal route in 12:02:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=46987
    Bike or Die v1.3h Kristopher
    I'm finally replacing 1.3a. I'll see how it works on the wristpda.
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial Kristopher
    This is weird. The sky looks gray on the Zodiac, but blue on the Zire 72. Are there any other Zodiac users who noticed this?
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Aleksey
    Good
    Kristopher's game on Spiral Kristopher
    Freestyle!

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    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Since your's is opened, mine is too. But they are slightly different.
    Vin's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    I played this about ten more times today and tied my second place and then managed to get the gold. I'm not that good. Someone should be able to shave a couple of more seconds off. My performance at the very top is only average.
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    not bad vin =)
    _alex_'s game on Spiral _alex_
    any advice?
    _alex_'s game on Spiral Kristopher
    Yeah: don't bother trying to get the gold. It will be mine soon.
    Aleksey's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Hmmm... Lost a medal. But, surprise, I have a 33 second game I haven't submitted yet!!
    Hillz Time Trial Vin
    louis stole my friend's palm that i played on and stole my routine for this lvl and landed a 20.1x just a heads up (im not mad) (
    _alex_'s game on Spiral Vin
    and then it will be mine again
    Smalls's game on Shelf Vin
    well i think there's no question that if thatg were to be done, those like smalls would need to re-do it on a seperate lvl, would be hard to integrate intok newbie pack...i do have a small idea, it might seem unconventional, but im sure some good lvls will come out in the next monts, and since we just put a lvlpack on, a new one wont come for a while, but would it be possible to have a 'misscelaneous' lvl packs with lvls that continued to be added, more like a category than a lvlpack but it would still be hof, i dk itd be cool...
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There DavidKing
    Congratulations!
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    Anyone tried this levelpack? Comments?
    Louis's game on Hillz Louis
    Hit me boobs!
    Hillz Time Trial Louis
    i cleaned up the crap, a little different from Vin's way
    Hillz Time Trial Louis
    I dont know why vin refers to me like he knows me, he is kinda odd, and im not refering to him like i know him either, or DZ, or ...lol ...................
    Cactus Time Trial Louis
    this should be called cactASS
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Louis
    sweet trick dASSude!
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Louis
    someASSone keeps putting ASS in all my comments, i think its SZ
    Louis's game on Hillz Vin
    thatg is offensive. i vote this account is removed. haha. jk.
    Die or Die! Time Trial MunkYBoY
    i hate this level
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    Yea I know, i had lots of accounts created by accident and they all posted for some reason and i lost the passwords lol but its all fixed up now

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    monkeydave's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Kristopher
    Wow. Very different. This is obviously not a bottle route.
    Kristopher's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Kristopher
    It is all ...lol's fault, because he opened his game.
    Kristopher's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    I will beat you, Vin.
    The Veenk's game on Underground Kristopher
    The competition on this level is way too hard. The three people ahead of you all had golds on this level, and still want it. I'm not sure why everyone wants to do this so much.
    Smalls's game on Shelf Kristopher
    If you mean that levels would be added one at a time, that would be hard, because most people cannot download new levels every few days.
    Bike or Die v1.3h Kristopher
    It works very well on the wristpda!
    But, when I installed it on the wristpda via infrared from the Zodiac, it did not overwrite the already existing 1.2f, so I then had both versions on the wristpda. I don't think it should have done that.
    Sz's game on Hillz Kristopher
    Last place?
    Kristopher's game on Cactus Kristopher
    I guess my ending is too slow.
    Tester's game on Riding School Kristopher
    And the first shall be in last place...
    XA Software LP 2 Kristopher
    Hey look! It's Snowstorm! Where were all the Bottle haters when this came out??
    Sz's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    It's about time.
    Level Pack Names Kristopher
    A Solution: in the levelpack selector, it could remove all of the B.O.D., BikeOrDie, BOD, things, and then alphabatize the list, so they are no longer an annoyance.
    Ideas Kristopher
    Level Popularity Graph
    Could you make a list that shows, for all of the 40000+ replays online, how many were submitted for each Hall of Fame level? I'm sure RSP2 is the most popular.
    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    You guys are not going to believe this!
    Vega's game on Riding School Vega
    I was torn between this and the new gold for freestyle. Which one do you all think it should be?
    Vega's game on Riding School DavidKing
    Very difficult to believe, but you have accomplished, congratulations.
    Vega's game on Riding School Vin
    wow...congrats!
    Ideas Vin
    ghost bike feature
    this may have already been shown but that would be the absolute coolest thing, wouldnt trake up server stuff, would be the same as regular and not hard to program (i think) plz think about this feature its really cool. for those of u who ont know, its replays being shown on tthe same screeen, so we can see where we went faster than some of the best times and where we went slower.
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    Thanks! This is the first gold I've had that lasted more than an hour.

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    Smalls's game on Shelf DavidKing
    View like Kristopher and Vin, it should be better, this pack already release after all.
    Bike or Die v1.3h Polo
    thx god update
    DavidKing's game on Cactus Polo
    idol always making the diference ^^
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    nice game?
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    sory bout the "?"
    _alex_'s game on Spiral _alex_
    is there any advice on my game, im going for bronze though
    Louis's game on Hillz _alex_
    .........wow........
    mind showing your moivie ..lol
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There _alex_
    con gratz =)
    You Qi's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    your games going down just as soon as i can get my palm to work long eneugh to hotsync!
    Biker's Cafe Jd
    Level Design
    i was wondering if there are any PC applications for creating levels? and if there aren't , then i suggest having one in the next release of the game.
    DavidKing's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    not a bad time dk
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    Upload to the server fails
    Am I the only one being unable to upload leves from my palm?
    Gus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    dont beat me here..plz..
    ghost bike feature Vega
    I love this idea. I think this would allow people to really extract the very best out of every level. Also, it you were able to race against your own ghost reply on your own palm, that would probably be even more valuable. This feature is used in the very popular racing game Gran Turismo for Playstation and it is extremely cool.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    I dont really think I need to. I thought the level was pretty self-explanatory....
    monkeydave's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... Louis
    not a bottle route my ass this level should be burned by kritopher's farts
    Louis's game on Hillz Louis
    yes
    Vega's game on Riding School Louis
    nice and sweet and sexy
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    #1!
    Sz's game on Teapot 7AK8G
    Wow! Missing that last flag sure messed with your time!

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    Level Design MacGuru
    What's wrong with the Palm version?
    Way Up There Time Trial Vin
    53-55 should be very possible
    Way Up There Time Trial Vin
    i meant 43-45
    Way Up There Time Trial Louis
    with my game that could be 2 second faster
    Louis's game on Way Up There Louis
    44 easily possible, i didnt even jump over the rock part
    Vega's game on Riding School Kristopher
    That ending is great.
    Shelf Time Trial 7AK8G
    I still cant get 7:74! I can only get 7:76!

    Is there a technique that I am missing?
    Hellevator Time Trial Louis
    thirty sven ( i purposedly spelled seven like that)(i purposely spelled purposely like that) possible
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Gaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
    Kristopher's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    I got 34:38 twice on this level, so this wasn't too surprising. I can get 34.xx almost every time.
    Newbie Pack MunkYBoY
    very close call. only a 2 point difference
    Newbie Pack Vin
    i have a few non-submitted games on a friends palm thatll put me in the lead by a few points
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    wat do your gus think best possible here is
    Report a bug Gavin S.
    bike or design troubles...
    on my palm it is hard to do any thing and it takes to long to create levels, for example it is hard to move points around and it is hard to make new lines. because the first part (the blue dot) shows up and the line does not and it makes me mad.
    Louis's game on Riding School Vega
    This is cool and all but can anyone else bust a 27.xx?!
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=48920
    Report a bug tanner
    Bike or design!
    while in Bike or design, if i am wanting to test a level in landscape mode i have to pull the keyboard up or it will reset. it makes me mad!!!!(TX)
    Competition against palms! tanner
    wow thinking how much fun it would be if we could do that!
    DavidKing's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    incredible ... ithought that aleksy's game was gonna b the best for a while
    Upload to the server fails Lucas
    How do you even try to upload it to the server?
    big problem either with game or my palm Lucas
    trying erasing it from the palm then installing it again. But make sure that in your backup file it isn't there when you download it again.

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    Report a bug Lucas
    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server
    I can't figure out how to upload the games I MADE with Bike or Design so that other people can play them.
    Levelpack Explorer Lucas
    I can't figure out how to upload the games I MADE with Bike or Design so that other people can play them.
    DavidKing's game on Die or Die! DavidKing
    This is easy, I once almost obtained 1:44,XX, but has failed because of carelessness.
    Lucas's game on Riding School Lucas
    It takes long but it is worth it to watch the whole thing.
    Shelf Time Trial You Qi
    I found that the score just actually removed from the TimeTrialChampion but not in the Newbie Pack counting. This sounds unfair for me who dunno who to get 7.74!
    Biker's Cafe You Qi
    BikeOrDie Score Counter
    Too boring today, made this thingy while passing my time.

    http://autorium.serverfreak.biz/BikeOrDie.exe
    Lucas's game on Shelf Sena
    lol, that's all i have to say Go the flash framework hehe
    Smalls's game on Shelf Smalls
    So the question now is, is it possable to make only the right way count without causing too many problems? Kristopher has a good point as well, when you download a new level pack it deletes the existing records. I don't think it can be done that way.
    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Borszczuk
    You mail to to game developer and they put it on the website
    Upload to the server fails Borszczuk
    By levels I mean records of my level plays (replays). Not the levels designed with Bike or Design.
    _alex_'s game on Spiral Vin
    try other beginning possibilities
    Smalls's game on Shelf Vega
    Smalls - > what do you mean that it deletes existing records when you download a new level pack? It doesn't delete all of your saved recordings of the levels you have completed..... does it?
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Vin
    pretty good run for my way, i think i know what kristopher did...
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Vin
    p.s. we really need ghost bike feature for this lvl haha
    Louis's game on Double-back Jumps Louis
    schoolage
    Smalls's game on Shelf Smalls
    When I have someone beam me a level pack, it deletes the existing recordings in that level pack if it already existed. Am I just doing something wrong?
    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Lucas
    How do you mail the game you made to the developer? Sorry for bothering you so much.
    Louis's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    nie game louis first you get hillz now this =)
    Spike Mountain Time Trial Louis
    36 is possible for the fastest time on this level
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down _alex_
    nice game cris, i still cant be bothered to play it lol if i dont beat it in my first 20 goes then i hate it

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    Aleksey's game on Home Sweet Home _alex_
    lol howd u manage that
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    thank vin your game got me .04 better lol thats still 2 ranks though =)
    Lucas's game on Riding School Vega
    Uhhmmm....Dare I ask why you say this is worth watching the whole thing? There is absolutely nothing of value to this replay. Thanks a lot for wasting 2 minutes of my life Lucas
    Lucas's game on Riding School Vin
    i was going to say the same thing...sad really...sorry...yeah...
    Louis's game on Hillz Tabs
    Thats a good time
    Louis's game on Hillz Vin
    maybe cuz he stole my route thank you very much
    btw i dont have a palm so i cant beat this...
    Kristopher's game on Parachute monkeydave
    all you need to do is fix the first part of your ride. you should be able to ride a wheelie over the parachutes.
    Kristopher's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Most of it could be improved, actually. It isn't too great, but it was hard to do the falling, so I have only done it once.
    ghost bike feature Kristopher
    I have not seen how this was implemented on other BOD styled games, but I would like to have this feature. When playing a level and replaying the last game, you should be able to see a ghost of the best time, and when viewing recorded games, you should be able to select multiple games to replay. Also, there should be an option to disable all ghost bikes, to save the CPU. And this feature needs a new name, to not be confused with ghost bikers.

    With this and the zoom feature, the next Bike or Die version will be awesome.
    Zoom out - see more area Kristopher
    Would this be implemented like the zoom feature in Bike or Design? I think, even it there were only two zoom settings (50% or 100%), it would be good. When you zoom out on a hi-res Palm, the game could use the picture for the low-res mode. It wouldn't work for low-res Palms, but that is okay, because zooming out on a low-res Palm would not look detailed enough.
    I keep saying would...

    And even if it takes 400MhZ to run the next BOD well, that is okay, because Palm won't make them fast until it needs to. The T3 is about three years old, but it is still among the fastest Palms- that has to change.
    Bike or Die v1.3h Kristopher
    I found a slight problem, though. I had some controls assigned to the Rocker Switch on the WristPDA, and it was working, and then I went back to the controls, enabled "instant restart," and press okay. The instant restart was enabled, but the Rocker Switch was no longer assigned to any controls. So I had to reassign them... Please fix.
    Louis's game on Hillz Louis
    i denied oyur crap filled route with a new technique
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There _alex_
    back in first lol and again nice game!
    Tabs's game on Hillz _alex_
    go tabs!
    Vin's game on Cactus prince jon
    mind showing your game here? it helped that you opened your 1 on jumping trial, i was able to tie it, but no hot sync cable so cant submit atm
    Vin's game on Cactus _alex_
    great... i tied vin too, guess its time for a race to c whos gonna hotsync faster, or r u just trying to atract attention like usual, vin can u show your game plz =) its not like your gonna lose a medal here
    Louis's game on Hellevator _alex_
    your raking up golds like theres no tomoro lol
    Louis's game on Hillz _alex_
    is under 20.xx opossible do u think?
    Sena's game on Equisplateral _alex_
    pathetic, ablsolutely pathetic
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    Thanks!! I wish I could say it was nearly perfect but I think a second or so can still come off.

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    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Blank
    email support@toyspring.com and attach your levelpacks to that
    bike or design troubles... Blank
    i'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but i have problems with bike or design too (mainly just getting the lines straight).
    Louis's game on Hillz Vin
    yes it is and louis no u didnt change it much u just did it better
    ghost bike feature Vin
    how bout like enable or disable shadowbike
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There Vin
    2 seconds off possible...
    Vin's game on Cactus Vin
    k ill take the initiative since i dont even have a palm to defend my times, but i want to see dks or zodiac's, so open them too plz
    Vin's game on Cactus Vin
    this is extremely easy, i got 8.xx 2/3 times, plus i know i can beat this
    Vin's game on Hillz _alex_
    you gonna show ya movie here 2?
    you helped me boost my rank on cactus and o jumping trial
    Vin's game on Cactus _alex_
    sorry vin beat your time by 0.02 =(
    Vega's game on Riding School Andrew Ladd
    nice run VEGA
    Vin's game on Cactus Vin
    its ok i have a non-submitted 8.4x on friend's palm
    Louis's game on Hillz Louis
    under 20 is plausible, and my run is different from vin's as the time clearly shows
    Louis's game on Hellevator Louis
    it is tomorrow
    XA Software LP 2 Louis
    no one cared about a level in XA software's lp 2
    Kristopher's game on Parachute Louis
    warned......... put this game away it is dangerous
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Louis
    this is full or your crap
    Vega's game on Riding School Louis
    That ending is great.
    Vega's game on Riding School Louis
    no question this one!!!!
    Tabs's game on The Right Way Vin
    Just wanted to mention and give some credit to this run which is actually really amazing. that end is so hard to pull off, tabs is definetaly a great player.
    DavidKing's game on Cactus _alex_
    cmon dk show ya game dont u want to have some competition on this lvl? and every1 having 7xx, if i get a 7xx using ya route ill show my stratagy, ok?
    plz plz plz plz plz plz

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    Vega's game on Riding School _alex_
    this gets at least 2 of my votes, iwould never have thought to flip at the end
    _alex_'s game on Spiral _alex_
    vin is this the right begining?
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Great team work, America, but I thought prince jon lived near _alex_?
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Kristopher
    This is what I did, but getting over the hill might have been slightly different.
    _alex_'s game on Spiral Kristopher
    It's not like mine, so, I would say no.
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Apologize, Louis.
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com 7AK8G
    11/10
    _alex_'s game on Spiral Vin
    not mine either fyi kris and i have the same routine on this lvl
    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Lucas
    How do you get the levelpack off the Palm. I don't have a card to put into it to get it off either. I have a Sony Clie if that helps.
    CD's game on Loop 2 Lucas
    You just coppied the other one a few before this. That is why you didn't get as much votes.
    bb_fighters's game on Wheel Insider Lucas
    Whoppde do, big whoop the whole nine yards that is not worth submitting.
    theONE's game on Big Cheese Lucas
    You guys vote to hard shesh stop submitting these stupid spinning videos DEFINITELEY NOT WORTH IT
    Smalls's game on Downhill Madness Lucas
    Kind of sorry you didn't get any comments but that is sick!!!!!
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! ventnor1
    This has to be one of the most challenging, but doable levels. Technique is excellent and must've taken you many moons to practice this level. I look forward to completing it soon!
    Spike Mountain Time Trial Vin
    youd need an insane run...my best beginning and best end combined probly highish 37
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Louis
    your mommy is sorry
    Spike Mountain Time Trial Louis
    a 15 begin, a 21 end
    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Schneider
    You would never guess i did it
    Louis's game on Hellevator Louis
    i hate raking
    rick's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    this is a load of kris's crap, which he sent me a picture of

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    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    sexy, show the movie. Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Blank
    It is in your "c:program filespalmone(user)backup" folder on your computer, provided you hotsync after youve made the levels. [substitute your hotsync name in for (user)]
    Vin's game on Jumping Trial Vin
    if its so similar show us [:
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    Sz, i have just affirmed you qis observation by counting by hand and i believe that is a mistake, considering even if i submit now my 7.74, i will have an eternal 13th place in that lvl. ii think your intent was to remove it altogether, including in the counting for newbie pack. i should be 9 pts behind dk. Make sure bottle doesn't coount for master ko's lvls.
    Shelf Time Trial Vin
    i just ran a check on "bottle" and that is not counted for master ko's ranking so I believe this was an unintended mistake, this lvl should be removed from both categories.
    Kenzo's game on Cactus Gus
    kenzo you finally made an account, but when did you manage a time like this i thought you said u hated this lvl
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle Kenzo
    me u and gus all from same school and all in top 3 lol
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle Kenzo
    alex wat do u think of my time only .02 behind you
    Newbie Pack _alex_
    only a few points behind dk the gold will be mine soon!
    i hope.. =)
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    u got a bronze kenzo! not bad... but if youd had .04 faster ...
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    can u show your game now? its been 2 weeks.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    your either a hacker or you broke through the floor
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    if jon gets 4th then our skool will rule this lvl!
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    prince jon u mean lol, theres no way hell get it he only got his time by fluke
    Kenzo's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    hes not bad at foothill
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    think u cant get better than 20.7x without new tactic
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    believe me i've tried!
    _alex_'s game on Cactus Gus
    congrats al. r u gonna publish as u sed?
    Newbie Pack Vin
    sz, plz remove shelf from this ranking
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial monkeydave
    Nice work!

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    How do you upload GAMES YOU MADE to server Lucas
    Thanx a bunch
    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Schneider
    HAHA Victory is Mine.
    Hellevator Time Trial Louis
    35 possible
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com topher
    i think shelf in newbie pack has an eternal gold on it
    too bad i got an eternal 10th
    topher's game on Hillz topher
    i miss my medal
    topher's game on Equisplateral topher
    mhm mhm mhm
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Schneider
    WOW
    topher's game on Shelf topher
    ok so it's not even special anymore
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Vin
    i figured it out, ill get it soon...its cool
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Vega
    I think I know what Schneider did too. All you have to do is watch Prayer's recording above and it will some variation of that trick. This will change the times on this level by a landslide like what happened to Underground when Roel jumped the bombs. Cool
    Louis's game on Spiral Vin
    beat u by half a second haha
    Vin's game on Hellevator Vin
    schooled
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Schneider
    just never forget i was the first to do it k thats all i want to be remembered
    Louis's game on Spiral Louis
    worked it in LA
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    Haha me a hacker? That's a funny thought. If I was a hacker why would I hack one level just to get 17th place in a level pack! OMG great thinking there. I really don't even think BOD is hackable.... Anyways. I used the same method as ...lol I just improved it a bit. It is very simple to do. That is why I don't want to show the video because anyone can copy it once they see it done. The trick is playing it 700 times to find the thing that makes it do that. And after playing it 700 times I think I rightfully deserve to be able to wait until someone else makes 800 tries and takes my medal. Do it on your own that is the whole point. Half the game is biking it skillfully, the other half is figureing out how to make it quicker.
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    i neva sed that but fine sinc eim submitting an 8:00
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    wat does evry1 think?
    Vin's game on Hillz _alex_
    and vin comes back!
    Gus's game on Cactus _alex_
    our school ownz this lvl 2 lol
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    cmon i wwnt and thrashed your time no cactus do really want to make me do it here by giving it 800 goes?
    i only want to improve my rank by 2 places so im first in newbie pack

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    Vin's game on Hellevator _alex_
    omg!

    Vin's game on Spiral _alex_
    so according to your comment on luis's game you got 24:2x?
    Tabs's game on Hillz Tabs
    So close - yet so far -
    Tabs's game on Hillz Tabs
    Nearly.
    _alex_'s game on Cactus Gus
    damnit i thought 8:06 would beat u!
    Kenzo's game on Cactus Gus
    Kenzo u keep getting .02 secs slower than me or al!
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    lol this is exactly wat happened on foothill..
    wheres that hammer gotta smash ya palm asap
    lol
    Tabs's game on Hillz _alex_
    cmon tabs you can do it!
    how bout opening ya movie so i can try to help 2
    _alex_'s game on Spiral _alex_
    is this right then?
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    not really... but respect n your gold
    Tabs's game on The Right Way Vega
    I second Vin's comments. Tab's ending is the best of everyone's.
    Newbie Pack _alex_
    if he removes it then... im first.. at least if im right
    Louis's game on Hellevator Louis
    woo vin gave me some sweet tricks preetty swweett
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    I did it the same time as schneider! We were calling each other and talking about how to, and we both figured it out. He did submit first though, so well done Schneider!!
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    Gaaa! I saw just a minute ago, Schneider had a gold, and then your movie was public!!! I'll bet you saw his.
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    .... And if I'd have been ten seconds faster, I could have seen this!!!
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Nope!
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Still many flaws. 22** is very plausible.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle Kristopher
    You have asked many people to open their games, to help you, and so, I am asking you to open this because your school has pushed my ranking of this level down several spots.

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    Smalls's game on Loop 1 Smalls
    32's!!
    Jumping Trial Time Trial Kristopher
    You might wonder why they are on astro turf, but anything is possible in Bike or Die.
    Louis's game on Spiral Kristopher
    Slighly different from mine.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    It didn't take long, and was somewhat easy to beat.
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Schneider
    Yah i was so happy i submited first cause it gives me credit so pfft on u but still but this is fun
    topher's game on Square topher
    ahoy!
    Vin's game on Spiral Vin
    still think you'll get gold, kris?
    7AK8G's game on Die or Die! 7AK8G
    My 2nd time beating it!
    Vin's game on Spiral Kristopher
    You never know.
    Tabs's game on Cactus _alex_
    wow, nice... come on tabs show i wanna give it a go
    Vin's game on Spiral _alex_
    holy!
    Tabs's game on Cactus Vin
    wow thats ridiculous, not eeven gonna ask u to open it id take my time
    _alex_'s game on Foothill Half Circle _alex_
    atm i only care bout cactus if you persuade tabs to showw for a day ill open this for a day but only if i c it
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    skill!
    thanks a nice time and to think i used to be happy wid 2 mins 10
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    monkey dave wat do think of this time, im pretty proud, ive played this lvl 22 time =)
    Louis's game on Hellevator _alex_
    lol these times r totaly nuts i was so happy with 40.xx now you guys have shaven 4.xx off my time
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    well... it didnt lol
    DZ's game on Cactus _alex_
    thats wat you get for being mean =p
    Tabs's game on Cactus Gus
    oh well if u.k have top 3 then thats fine. But I want my silver back!
    Newbie Pack _alex_
    finaly gold!
    but for how long...

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    topher's game on Shark! topher
    open source
    Louis's game on Hellevator Kristopher
    Equisplateral?
    Louis's game on Hellevator Vin
    yup this was all thx to me, i show louis too many tricks...
    Hillz Time Trial Vin
    well louis 'my way' is faster, i nearly landed a 19.75ish its the 19.64 in my gol, i died just before the finish flag, almost touching it
    Bird Time Trial Smalls
    I agree, I think that secret levels are not cool. If you have a medal, than it's fine, but show them otherwise. Just my oppinion though.
    bike or design troubles... Gavin S.
    Problem solved with new version!!!!
    Tabs's game on Hillz _alex_
    go tabs!
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe RTIP
    Un voto mas para ti amigo para que subas... 51!!! y subiendo... desde MEXICO!!!
    Benoit's game on Equisplateral Blank
    its still pretty good anyway
    Smalls's game on Loop 1 _alex_
    its not a club till some else does it =p
    DavidKing's game on Shelf mike flips
    How do you guys get through the wall to the flag i can never get it
    Jayce's game on Parachute Jayce
    By the way, I made this level with a tiny bit of help from Shneider
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    I won't be playing for about a month. Good luck everyone! I just hope I stay in the top ten! Later!!
    Jayce's game on Parachute Kristopher
    Do you have your own Palm? You should play more.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Parachute _alex_
    what the hell hapened here!
    Smalls's game on Hellevator Smalls
    Easily. I just don't really like this level. Maybe I'll beat it later!
    DavidKing's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    This will hopefully change. If Sz can figure out how to make only the right way legal and accepted. Let's hope so.
    Louis's game on Hellevator Kristopher
    That will be hard to beat, then. I'll open my normal route. But this level is still fun.
    Kristopher's game on Hellevator Kristopher
    It was pretty good.
    Spiral Time Trial Kristopher
    I've played close to 1000 times.

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    bike or design troubles... Gavin S.
    no, never mind, it is not solved with the new version! dang it!
    VegaWife's game on The Right Way Vega
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Vega's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    So the strategy is to accelerate the whole time while you are at the top.
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    That's one part of several strategy points to this level. To get 19.xx you must hit far right wall at 12.xx. If top and bottom are done perfectly in the same run, 19.2x-19.4x is possible!
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    btw...just wanted to add that although faster times are possible, Oliver, Tabs, and DK have awesome runs as it is. It would take an insane person to get a 19.4 or better on this level......here here to insanity!
    Tabs's game on Cactus ZodiacfreaK
    holy crap thats amazing!
    Louis's game on Parachute _alex_
    nice
    Report a bug vw
    how do you view movies
    Yes I know its a stupid question, but I have no idea how to view others movies. Thanks!
    how do you view movies vw
    Never mind was a Firefox problem
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe RTIP
    mmm otro voto pues para que vayas a la cabeza again...
    ghost bike feature Vega
    What is shadowbike? Is that the same thing as ghostbike? Adding something like this would be INCREDIBLE! You could pinpoint exactly where you need to improve. There would be an immediate shift in top times on levels tho. All medals would be beaten and new times would emerge. Crazy
    Online Flash Replays Suggestions Vega
    Also, what about the possibility of adding a sound option to the replays online and making the replay larger without having to zoom in?! But Kris....why analog clock? digital sounds more appropriate
    Tabs's game on Cactus _alex_
    tabs im begging u show your game =(
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Cactus _alex_
    still pathetic =p
    The Veenk's game on Underground Vega
    Kris, I think it's bcuz this is very challenging to get just right Nice run The Veenk.
    Louis's game on Parachute Vin
    he had a sucky beginning
    Louis's game on Parachute Louis
    about a second or so sucky
    Tabs's game on Cactus Louis
    this is probably a lucky hit of the flag
    _alex_'s game on Cactus Louis
    OPEN IT NOW it doesnt matter!

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    Louis's game on Hellevator Louis
    schoooled
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    im finally in top ten ty to all who help me..... yah
    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Schneider
    under 25's club lol mine is public i was the first to do it and 16 is the best possible so haha i was first.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    my third go on this lvl =)
    Tabs's game on Cactus _alex_
    even if it is it can b repated
    Louis's game on Hellevator Gus
    how the hell?
    Louis's game on Parachute Vin
    2-2.5 seconds sucky, a 24.xx is possible
    Louis's game on Hellevator Vin
    yeah my tricks with kristophers run would get about a 34.9x if he improved parts of it
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    getting closer =)
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    finaly gold
    who likes my new pic
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial You Qi
    quite cute!
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    thx yours is from 1 piece right?
    this is the fist time youve actually talken to me lol
    Louis's game on Hellevator Kristopher
    Don't tell anyone about the Equisplateral route.
    Kristopher's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    The Time Trial Champions still seem a bit messed up because PrayeR is still in the Top 10 and hasn't played all of the levels. But once you pass PrayeR, then we can congradulate you.
    Btw, I just passed Balint.
    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial Gus
    nice pic and nice time
    Newbie Pack Vin
    if shelf is removed, im 8 pts ahead in first place
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    where can i improve?
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    i tried tabs's ending...

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    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    Nice run Vin....keep your back tire on the ground more on top and touch less green at the end
    _alex_'s game on Spike Mountain _alex_
    crud lost bronze in bout 2 mins after submitting
    Roel's game on Underground Jd
    man, wat da hel, i no so many n00bs dat can do dat.
    Vin's game on Way Up There _alex_
    nice vin, gold
    BikeOrDie - 30`s CAEDZ
    These are hard but my favorite level pack so far! Any hints, or clips on how they were accomplished? GOOD JOB!
    Gus's game on Bike O'Clock Gus
    olivers game looks faster than mine
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Sorry, I was just excited. It is deffinately beatable.
    Smalls's game on Shelf Tabs
    I would agree on this level being 're-done' but ONLY
    if the other medal holders agree to it.Also, in the
    future, level pack designers must take into account
    levels like this and Cactus - Don't put the chequered
    flag near a thin wall.

    P.S. my best time for the 'normal' way, so far, is 11.42
    Roel's game on Underground Vega
    Jd - Roel was the originator of this. He was the pioneer who did it first.
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vin
    nice run vega
    btw i just got gold
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    What's up with that Vin? I coach you on what to do and you go from 20:20 to 19:52 ?? I just posted a bronze and I only had my medal for like 12 seconds :/ Now I am gonna have to beat Oliver's score.....
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    yeah ur videos helped a lot, i was screwing up my beginning before
    Kristopher's game on Underground Kristopher
    Top ten! But, it doesn't look too great...
    topher's game on Square Kristopher
    I missed the part about going backwards first. Thanks.
    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps Kristopher
    Why does no one else open there movie?
    Vin's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    Do you and Louis know another trick, or are you just keeping this secret to annoy us?
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    ...just to annoy you, haha
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    tell me if im wrong but i think this is a pretty good copy of rougenine's run...not so hard to do...

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    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    This is great stuff Vin. I thought about doin this too. His game is weak. Must have gotten fake votes for sure. Rachman was right!
    Vin's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    My gold lasted longer than I thought it would. Nice job. I imagine we are getting close to perfect now.
    Vin's game on Way Up There Vin
    maybe around .5-.75 to go, but would be hard...
    The Right Way Time Trial Vin
    wow we're really filling the cracks of this lvl, lets get all of top ten as 19.xx btw louis is bout to submit 19.8x
    jasonjerome's game on The Right Way Vin
    good looking ending
    Sinus Mountains Vin
    i beat it third try but hard to repeat, nice variation, i didnt get the end jump tho, dk which end is faster
    Oliver's game on Hellraider _alex_
    umm why is there a finish flag up near the roof?
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Oliver's game on Hellraider Borszczuk
    one tap too much while designing the level?
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    so close
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    Congrats Schneider! Way to go! Now you have to stay there!
    Smalls's game on Double-back Jumps Smalls
    There you go Kristopher!
    Smalls's game on Bottle Smalls
    Tied with gold! I really think that 6.24 is possible. I didn't have a perfect run.
    Smalls's game on Shelf Smalls
    You would have a Silver Tabs. I hope that we can work it out. If you are in the top dozen or so, what do you think about making it different?
    Bálint's game on Sqare Smalls
    Mind showing?
    Kristopher's game on Floors Kristopher
    Annoyingly fun.
    Louis's game on Red Murder Kristopher
    So now you want to get a medal, probably? A good game, though.
    Smalls's game on Double-back Jumps Kristopher
    Quite different
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Vega
    If you are so confident that it's that good then lets see it...it will probably take someone very good to beat it!
    _alex_'s game on Bike Impossible _alex_

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    _alex_'s game on Snowstorm _alex_
    Touch Bricks Time Trial _alex_
    how do u guys with the 20.xx do it!
    can u show your games plz
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Vin
    haha even in this lvl where i cant pull of the trick/dont really want to now, i told louis the trick for about 2 seconds off the 23.xx runs
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Vin
    i beat it woot, i think 1.40.xx is possible
    Smalls's game on Bottle _alex_
    do u brake when going left then turning right?
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Maybe Loius can delete it before you submit.
    Gus's game on Bike O'Clock _alex_
    looking at it id say 10.3x is possible
    look at your ending and olivers whole game
    thats how u c how u got beter than him
    Louis's game on Hillz Tabs
    I have a 19.xx game - but won't post it till my game
    is beaten.

    Vin's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    It was!
    Vin's game on Way Up There Vega
    Great comment md It worked perfectly. I was like...it was?? Oh that means he beat it! Good job.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Opened! If anyone beats this I will snatch gold right back from them
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Vin
    hahaha
    Vin's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    LOL. I was finally smart enough to not look at my time at the end and freak out!
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Louis
    what does that mean
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Louis
    oh nvm
    _alex_'s game on pumb.org Louis
    WOAH sooooo different this game is really good!
    Smalls's game on Jump Over Louis
    wow, smalls, alex, gus, and company stop getting random medals lol
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    ...And 12:50 is close to perfect on RSP2. This will be beat soon, and I hope to beat it, and keep the medal for awhile, which would not be possible if you knew.
    Kristopher's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    Very fun level and route.
    Kristopher's game on Vertical Avenue Kristopher

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    Vin's game on Way Up There Kristopher
    That's my problem, too.
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Time Trial Vin
    I just got it haha
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Time Trial _alex_
    nice!
    Me vs. The Gravity Gus
    this lvl is easy to get about 8 seconds on
    aurican's game on Underground Gus
    why are people voting for this?
    everyone in the top 170 can do this.
    why don't they have 20 votes?
    Smalls's game on Jump Over Gus
    wat u mean?
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Kenzo
    nice game al!
    lots o flips and a good time while i cant even beat it
    im giving all my votes
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There _alex_
    another gold and another congrats from me
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    ummmmm, wats RSP2
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    Riding School Part 2
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Parachute 7AK8G
    oh, wow! You're ending sucked! Just accelerate to the guy, slow down at his legs, and then speed up again!
    Level Design Blank
    For a start it's a bit difficult to use
    and very fiddly
    Key Press Bug on Zire 31 Blank
    anyone?... no-one?
    I really hate this bug and i want it fixed asap
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    no this run is pretty good, for this route, im discovering a new one with Vins trick
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    Alright Vin....now I have a 19:56 and I showed my game so let's see yours. It's not like you have a game that's way ahead of the pack..And besides I showed my Sinus Mountains
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    k ill show...just cuz about 19.2x is very possible and ill beat this soon
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    leave comments
    ...lol's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... IZodiac
    amazing

    and you can not edit a bod replay with filez. something shoulda told you that but i guess it never did
    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    i just got a 21.38 woot

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    Vin's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    opened...knock yourself out
    RTIP's game on Floors Lucas
    I might vote for this but you didn't do anything that cool except at the end.
    Lucas's game on U Jump Lucas
    Coem on guys vote for this one. It is my first game ever submitted. IT IS AT LEAST WORTH A LOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    evader's game on Riding School Lucas
    come on you can't do THAT much on the first level
    KenD's game on The Well Lucas
    BORING!!!!!!!!!!! The most intersting part was when you messed up on the second thing jutting out from the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ZodiacfreaK's game on Bike Impossible Lucas
    Thast wasn't cool. Next time actually finish.
    Joey's game on Fly! Lucas
    you deserve my vote here ya go.
    Pazos's game on Underground Lucas
    sick but finish the next time. try doing it with your backwheel then falling over on the other side of the mine traps
    monkeydave's game on Way Up There monkeydave
    Thanks! Hopefully this one will last a little longer. I do think there is room for improvement though. Maybe another half second.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Gus
    stylish!
    Vin's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    oW-oW skill
    Tabs's game on Vanilla Sky frizzhead9
    LUCK!!!!!!!!!
    Die or Die! Time Trial frizzhead9
    rrrrg this level is so frustrating.
    Tabs's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    frizzhead9 - either you are just too knew to know any better or you are not very intelligent
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vega
    Well it doesn't look all that fast actually. I have landed many in the 19.6x to 19.7x range that look and seem faster. But never the less, you got the gold! Well played Vin.
    Nik's game on Sharper Than Glass frizzhead9
    smooth job going up the needle things
    lvl!!! Powerman
    ?????????????????????????
    _alex_'s game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    cant think how vin got 21.3x
    DavidKing's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    give credit where credit is due =)
    _alex_'s game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    how bout 21.1x?

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    Newbie Pack Vin
    sz, plz remove shelf from this ranking i want thee gold haha
    Vin's game on The Right Way Vin
    rougenine sucks
    _alex_'s game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    Kristopher's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    i left my 21:84 open 2 hours then dk went and beat it! then i got 21:80 then dk beat it again and now i have 21:70.. until dk beats it
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    im first in newbie... but wy dont u open your game evry1 else has in 1 lvl while u dont show yours! i dont care if this lvl is self explamentry!
    KenD's game on The Well _alex_
    lucas at least he tried u would probaby screw up b4 the lvl started!
    Aleksey's game on Castle _alex_
    lol this is hilarius!
    David's game on The Right Way Gus
    its also slow and boring
    Smalls's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    DavidKing- here's your 9.8, now it's your turn to do 9.85!
    Aleksey's game on Castle Vega
    That would have been awesome if you somehow bounce back up and finished it Aleksey
    _alex_'s game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    how bout 20.98?!?! whoa
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    This is SOOOO Secy

    Literally
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    I know what you did. I'll do it eventually.
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    what do you think i did
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    C'mon Vin...now let's see that 19.2x you say is easy
    Louis's game on Hellevator Louis
    whats the equisplatmyass route
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Vin
    concept art by me...haha props to louis for pulling it off though
    Time Trial Champions Jayce
    Hey, I just wanted to inform you guys that a level pack is going to be submitted soon called the Preston Pak. You might want to check it out. Its made by me, Schneider, some kid named Josh, and some other people from Preston. They are some of our better levels.
    Louis's game on Hellevator Kristopher
    Go to the top of the level, as high above the flag as possible, and then fall and flip and go through the ground to the flag.
    _alex_'s game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    behold the statagy they use! and u can c this is very improveable! good luk all

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    Vega's game on The Right Way Kristopher
    Wow. Oliver needs to come back for a bit longer.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    Haha actually only one person with a first place medal has their game opened and that is because the level is a bottle. Come on guys I don't understand why you are having trouble on this. IT IS JUST A FRIGGING CIRCLE. lol just think through it logicly, thats all I did.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    Notice this is my only medal.... I really am not just dying to lose it
    Smalls's game on palmstamp.com DavidKing
    Congratulations!
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    u cable cacred the whole thing!
    or did u squeeze hed through gap and smashed wheel?
    if some1 cuold pull it off 16.xx would b possible
    _alex_'s game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    u did it!
    cmon cmon cmomif u did let me c were palz right
    btw i got 23 on touch bricks if u want u can c my 29 game
    it could have been 22 but skrewed up at end
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    o ok soz but wen u gonna open it, ive showed my game on touch briks letting the secrt loose cos no1 wouuld help me
    _alex_'s game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    you can c the stratagy at http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=51550&gc=1
    Vega's game on The Right Way _alex_
    wow......
    impressive.....
    Vin's game on The Right Way _alex_
    hes got the silver now and its thank to u
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vin
    well played, sir. tough to beat, not easy haha but possible...at the moment i can't even look at this lvl and am doing some work with sinus (uh-oh) and touch bricks so ill be back
    Vin's game on Floors _alex_
    tell me bout it! i cant even manage it
    Smalls's game on palmstamp.com _alex_
    thats incredible!
    Smalls's game on Jump Over Louis
    i mean u get medals in random levels
    Louis's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    I bet that my game is done the same way. I did it first though! Nicely done!
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Vega
    Really everyone let's get honest here ok? How can this not be a bottle level if only 78 people have played it & #2-#10 are all in between 6.90 and 6.94 (.04 seconds from each other). This is only the beginning. These times will get closer and closer to each other
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Vin
    thank you vega for stealing the post i was tossing around in my head (: haha but seriously i hav 6.94
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial DavidKing
    This may be only lucky, I get 06,90 over 10 times.
    Loop 3 Time Trial mike flips
    Everyone complains about this level but its really easy, i just started playing it today i bet im top three in the next 2 days
    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
    really cool!!!
    how come it's so easy to do this on the new version?
    i tried this so many times before but no success.
    wait till the new version come out and you don't need to go down, just go flip through the wedge!

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    Loop 3 Time Trial mike flips
    DID IT
    Medals by Country mike flips
    Gotta Add Canada On orrs level 4
    Tabs's game on Vanilla Sky _alex_
    ye i agree wid vega, tabs is 1 of the best players his games have nothing to do with luk!
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    lots of flips involved and finished quite fast for it!
    come on in and c for yourself!
    Hiroshi's game on Wheel Insider Gus
    it takes skill to mess up so badly!
    Finding Mice Time Trial _alex_
    i like the mouse but its so anoying, i could of had 55.xx i no not that good but then that murderous mouse killed me
    Hank Chill Time Trial Louis
    what?! this is a good level PRAYER is a DIPCRAP
    DavidKing's game on Blizzard Louis
    ill be on it right away DavidKing (Taiwan, Taipei)
    Vin's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    nice game vin would love to c it lol
    that aint gonna happen doon though
    rachman!'s game on Double Sprint _alex_
    thats cos u guys suck
    Vin's game on Double-back Jumps Vin
    ive got a much better one but ill wait till someone beats this one. im letting people figure out the trick first before sharing, dk got it i think
    mike flips's game on Fruits Vin
    wow
    BikeOrDie Score Counter Rouch
    Good job You Qi, really well done
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Anybody think something can be done with this?? I have tried to make something out of it several times and it just lands too hard...
    Louis's game on Spike Cave Louis
    vin and i are starting to rev your ass and leave indented tire marks
    _alex_'s game on pumb.org _alex_
    thx
    Vin's game on Double-back Jumps _alex_
    im finally found out your statagy on cave dueller but here cat c many other options sso im just waiting till u open
    Ideas Louis
    Timer for the Replays Online
    This would be a great help to see the times at which certain tricks are done to gauge a run. Its easy to copy tricks, but not so easy to see how long they should take and when exactly to do ou could see at what time a player "hits the left wall," or something, and you can see how good of a run you have in the works. A timer for the replays online would be a great new feature to add.
    Timer for the Replays Online Louis
    i didnt see this in kristop's idea sorry
    Report a bug Louis
    change bike color have to authorize games
    this is a minor buge that i just pooed out

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    jeannette's game on Double Sprint jeannette
    cool freestyle trick
    Report a bug Daniel S.
    Even more determination not to Die!
    On my Palm TX when ever I die, or even win, my palm restarts! It makes it impossible to play the game! I need to fix this problem because last time this happened after too many restarts my palm did a hard restart and I lost every thing! If you would know how to fix this please tell me. I have already reinstalled the game and everything but it hasnt helped. Please Help Me!
    Key Press Bug on Zire 31 Daniel S.
    I have had this happen to me on my TX. Just try not to push up while you start the level and if it does happen just restart the level or brake. Other wise I cant help you but if you could help me with me situation I would appreciate it!
    Daniel S.
    change bike color have to authorize games Daniel S.
    I dont get what you mean?
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Daniel S.
    Id say its funny you comment on just about everyone elses videos but know one comments yours. I have to say your replay looks exactly the same as whats-his-face in 3rd place; mabey thats because its only .02 seconds different, but enough to put you in 4th and not 3rd!
    Louis's game on Catapult Back Vin
    I tied it. crap.
    Louis's game on Catapult Back Vin
    haha after writing that comment i played it once and got gold
    change bike color have to authorize games Vin
    apparently when you change ur bike color you must authorize all ur games and ur device as if it is a new one, i dk but this is what louis was saying.
    David's game on The Right Way _alex_
    u raciste gus
    Ideas MacGuru
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor
    It would kick some MAJOR butt, if one could send a black & White .gif to their PalmOS device, and import it via the level editor. The editor would then basically read black as land and white as sky, and spit out a level that you could then add graphics too or futher edit.

    I ask this mainly because the levels I want to design are taking WAY too long to tinker with in the editor when designed from scratch. If I could have a semi-complete starting point it would be soooo much nicer!
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor Kristopher
    That's a good idea, like the Medievel Heros II level editor. Of course, invisable lines wouldn't be possible, but it would be a nice option for level editors.
    Vin's game on Blizzard Vin
    so close...
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    This is all pretty funny looking back, eh Vin? Look how much drama your replay caused. Such feisty fellow BODers
    BikeOrDie Score Counter Gavin S.
    what is it?
    BikeOrDie Score Counter Vega
    I don't know what it is for either. Try to fool with it for a bit but couldn't figure it out.
    DavidKing's game on Congratulations! Louis
    please can u show it, its nothing new, this level is straight, like you!

    (RYHME)(SHAKESPEARE 1688)
    Orkut - Bike or Die Community Oldman
    Would like an invite... mejdrich@gmail.com Thanks...
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back Kenzo
    begining was way to slow otherwise this would have been 39 for sure
    Schneider's game on Shark! _alex_
    can we plz c shneider =)
    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 Gus
    holy!
    u were 33 two mins ago!
    i just got 10 60

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    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 _alex_
    just got 10 18 =p
    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 _alex_
    boo ye!
    Schneider's game on Shark! Kristopher
    I will have a silver in this level when I submit; there is no trick here, except going under the fish.
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back Kristopher
    I have 40:28.
    jonas.'s game on Die or Die! mike flips
    This route is slowest, fastest route is continue going to the left onto the spikes, then go as fast as you can towards the right and you will land with your bike hooked onto the middle u shaped thing. Then turn ur bike around and and go back to the left and fling yourself up onto the middle u and then just go down the right side and ur done ... i wish i could do what i just said lol
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    its gonna be big battle btween you qi and vin :p
    Schneider's game on Shark! _alex_
    i wanna c how to go under fish =(
    Pazos's game on Hill Louis
    show the game's Pesos!
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Still a little more possible.
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    Practice, practice, practice. Actually, each level has a few key moves that gets you under 30 secs if performed right. Ask about a particular level and I will tell you the goods.
    BikeOrDie - 30`s Bg
    Watch for the level pack "20's" coming soon. 10 more levels that need to be done under 20 secs...
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Time Trial Champions Jayce
    Smalls is back now! way to go
    Time Trial Champions Vin
    31 pts is nothing...i hope to catch up to aleksy when i play you qi and si lun
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    NO Vin, I think you can catch up with me, Come on! I have already felt tired, I think that rachman! is the real champion.
    Report a bug Dave
    Can't See
    I can't see the replays (movies)on the BOD site. Can i zoom out? on most of the lvl's all i see is a small section of the lvl not the full screen.
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 _alex_
    nice vega =)
    lurp's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    Just so you guys know, this guy is good, if he starts actually playing the real levels(he likes Dieter level packs) than he will be top ten in no time.
    Shelf Time Trial Smalls
    Look at the comments on my replay, if we can get enough to agree, we might be able to re-do this level.
    The Ratt's game on The Right Way _alex_
    hes american that explains it :p

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    The Ratt's game on The Right Way _alex_

    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    nice
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Thanks!
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks Louis
    is this the through the bricks, hard?
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Biker's Cafe MCCUE
    Can someone explain the time trial scoring
    I'm confused as to how this works. I was ranked #165 and was behind #164 by like 10 points. Then I submitted 9 new levels that I had never passed before, and I am still ranked #165. I thought that each new passed level was an additional 100 points, so was expecting to jump up a few spots. How does this actually work???
    Vega's game on Double Sprint DavidKing
    Congratulations, I think that "Riding School Part 2" will almost get the gold medal too, good!
    BikeOrDie Score Counter MCCUE
    how do you know what a players id is?
    Vega's game on Double Sprint _alex_
    play the other lvls now!
    uve meddaled 6 lvls out of 6!
    jus got 11:06 downhill madness while typing lol
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Congradulations to those who have beaten me recently.
    I have been setting many records to, since I have not been able to get to this site on my main computer to submit, so I will not be submitting for a while, although I have two silver medals in You Qi's levels. So I will not be here for a while.
    But I'll be back.
    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! Kristopher
    Open
    Kristopher's game on Sharper Than Glass Kristopher
    Open
    Kristopher's game on Touch Bricks Kristopher
    Open
    _alex_'s game on Downhill Madness _alex_
    curse u veenk!!!
    i would have had gold
    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 _alex_
    broke the 10 sec barrier
    mike flips's game on Cablecar _alex_
    skillz!!!!
    would love to c how bout showing
    Louis's game on Watch your head Gus
    nice comeback
    Louis's game on Watch your head Vin
    umm i beat this by > 1 second
    Vin's game on Watch your head Vin
    Whoa, diss

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    Vin's game on Watch your head Vin
    killed the one-year old gold medal on a pretty straightforward lvl by almost 2.5 seconds, and louis and i didnt even collaborate, hes just like i got gold and i was like okay and beat it, sometimes the whole landscape of a lvl can change if just one person gets a good time.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    I beat my own gold!
    Schneider's game on Congratulations! _alex_
    nice game =)
    keith's game on Snowstorm keith
    Yeah!
    keith's game on Snowstorm Vin
    No!
    Schneider's game on Congratulations! Vin
    mind opening schneider?
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible Louis
    (i think balint is grumpy because he is HUNGARY) lol
    monkeydave's game on Sharper Than Glass monkeydave
    guess I might as well open mine too.
    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 _alex_
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Benoit
    I agree 100% with Zodiacfreak, if _alex_ exchanges games with another user, it doesn't hurt him but it hurts everyone below. It is difficult to progress but if the top players exchange games amongst each other, then it becomes impossible and kills the interest of the game for lower players. I think one person should just contribute to his own profile and not to someone elses. SZ, since it is probably impossible to control, could you at least state very clearly that it should not be done as it is against the spirit of the game (as _alex_ suggests should be stated for him to stop).
    _alex_'s game on Cave 2 Vin
    wanna show?
    _alex_'s game on Fly! _alex_
    just got a 17
    Gus's game on Fly! Gus
    Poor me =(
    prince jon's game on Fly! prince jon
    haha gus
    beat ya within the minute u got it
    your movie helped
    =p
    Sena's game on Fly! prince jon
    your dam right!
    Sena's game on Fly! Gus
    revenge of our skool!
    yet another lvl under
    our control!
    _alex_'s game on Fly! _alex_
    hahaha this was a great idea of mine to have all the sameish pictures
    _alex_'s game on Fly! Gus
    iceland rules fly!
    prince jon's game on Fly! Gus
    damn u!!! I had GOLD.
    SAME ON CAVE 2
    AND AL BEATS IT
    I BRONZ LOOP 3 AND
    AL DOES IT AGAIN. NOW U!
    AAARGH!
    Medals by Country Gus
    Come on Iceland!

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    Kristopher's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    very fast
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible _alex_
    lol! thats hilarius =D
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    frenchie u no wat no1 cares this was a matter of the past
    stop trying to act as if people care bout wat u say
    Gus's game on Cave 2 Louis
    wow this run is baad
    _alex_'s game on Fly! Benoit
    Learning from everyone else who opens their games but not opening your own. Sounds selfish to me.
    mike flips's game on Cablecar Louis
    theres a trick jumping off the triangle, he told me, im his girlfried
    mike flips's game on Cablecar Louis
    literly
    _alex_'s game on Big Cheese Louis
    with this shit awesome beginning 51 is shitin possible FUCK
    _alex_'s game on Big Cheese Louis
    someone is hacking into my account
    Louis's game on Parachute Louis
    bullshit
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Kristopher
    When I first started Bike or Die, most players were respectable adults who made the game fun. Now, it is overrun by ghosts and people who hardly know how to use Palm OS. They post random comments and "plz open" everywhere that aren't worth reading, especially since a player will open his games when wants.
    And while people such as Alex-with-the-unspecial-characters-at-the-end-of-his-"name" copy other players' routes without developing any themselves; they are not assets to this web site.
    I still don't see how Magnus could have played this himself, or how, for example, three different players could all submit their games and post in the forum in the same ten minutes, like they did on the Fly level, or why they all sound like the same person talking to himself.
    So, alex, from your latest post, you call this a thing of the past, when your multiple users are still annoying many of us, and your posts are simply not worth reading. And if you and Gus planned to play all of the same levels, you should not have used seperate profiles, because it puts unfair Time Trial weight on the levels you play. But if you are a good player, you do not need to PM everyone asking them to play for you. At least, if you really are from a school, somewhere, you could at least learn how to spell correctly.
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Vin
    im all for some public games from these guys but i dont blame them...when i or louis get a new record, even a gold, the other one schools that lvl too like watch your head, hellevator, spiral, vertical avenue, well, etc etc...all on same day as first, so....but seriously share the love on fly, i agree that pride is taken in changing the landscape of a lvl, rather than taking it over.
    _alex_'s game on Big Cheese Vin
    beginning wasnt great...watch ovile
    Smalls's game on Watch your head Smalls
    Only one to show in top ten, sorry it's not faster!
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    hey chris now that u mention it it sounds fishy i had my time for ages (1 day lol) and gus realised wat he was doing rong by looking at my game then jon gave a gave a go and gold u c?
    ne way they were all at my house sleeping over, and i do try to find new routes me and gus developed a way that makes 35 possible on turn it twist it
    o just red another part
    IF WE BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT PALMS AND WE LIKE COMPETITION THEN WY ARNT WE ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERENT ACCOUNT!!!!
    I NEVER MADE ANY GHOST ACOUNTS AND MAYB U SHOULD STOP MAKING POST LIKES THIS!
    I USED TO THINK U WERE A NICE (GOOD) PLAYER NOW IT JUST SHOWES THAT U JUST WANT TO GET RID OF PLAYERS BEACUASE U WANT TO GAIN A FEW RANKS!
    NE WAY IF IT WAS ME WHO GOT MAGNUS HIS TIME ON SHELF WY WOULD I NOT ASK FOR THE MEDAL! HUH EVER TINK ABOUT THAT! NO U DONT THINK ALL U DO IS RITE HARMFUL POSTS!!!
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    ty vin at least u understand o and vin if i get a better time ill open this 1 for a bit for u
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Gus
    Kristopher I dont see what's wrong with playing the same lvls. We do it as a competition amongst ourselves ( at school). The fact that we submit at the same time is linked to the fact we (a) Get home at the same time and (b)that we DO play the same levels amongst ourselves. I can understand why trading times is unfair (I haven't done it). But if we all are cheating then do you think we would be so senseless as to draw attention to that fact by all submiting at the same time. Aside from the magnus incident which I beliece is now resolved, no cheating has gone on amongst us. Why should I share a profile with _alex_? Surely thats even greater cheating using two peoples talents on one account. Also I would like to why you think that me _alex_ kenzo magnus and prince jon are all part of _alex_. I am a player on my own. Why would_alex_ create many accounts with medals on each one instead of doing it all on one account. Sorry for such a long post and sorry Kristopher if I'm being rude but I don't like the insinuations you are making against us. The magnus incident was regrettable but IS over. We don't cheat. I am sorry if you think its unfair that we play the same levels but there is nothing wrong with that either morally or in the rules of the game. Btw was my spellin good?
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Gus
    Thanks Vin. At least you understand the secrecy part.
    _alex_'s game on Big Cheese Gus
    Looks slower on the net than on your palm al.
    Gus's game on Cave 2 Gus
    I showed alex a trick for a fast
    ending, then he gets 9 seconds!

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    magnus's game on Snowstorm Kenzo
    Why does nobody accuse Vin and Louis? They submitthe same levels and at similar times, like us! I am NOT accusing them but I am saying there are similarities. Kristopher go and accuse them on Watch Your Head. Same time, new records secret. Looks like us. Why not accuse them. Or another idea; you can say that they are us as well bescause they post at similar times and secret their games. Try that! I would like to say we all play on our own, bar the magnus case. I am not accusing Vin or Louis in fact Vin seem to partially understand what we are saying!
    BikeOrDie - 20`s Bg
    My best times are all 16's or less - Have fun...
    Tabs's game on Cactus Tabs
    Please vin,alex dont send pm's in future asking me to reveal my game and one of you giving me your email to send
    game.You know who you are.

    Talk in public.

    Tabs's game on Cactus Gus
    Are you going to publish this game ever?
    Gus's game on Cave 2 _alex_
    louis id like to c u do better
    thi level is really hard to get clean
    so this is good
    _alex_'s game on Fly! _alex_
    every1 else having theres open has defenetly helped your rank in this lvl 45th!
    wow thats amazng! sena's game of really helped u i mean i could never manage to get a time like that
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor MacGuru
    Why wouldn't they be? just do what you always do and make a 1 pixel line. Anything else with depth would become a polygon in the game.
    Hiroshi's game on Wheel Insider _alex_
    lol i gave up watching u should have used the brake a bit more
    Tabs's game on Cactus _alex_
    i dindt e-mail i only pm
    ne way tabs i unerstand if u dnt open but i would ove to c this wonderful trick of yours
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Gus
    Would someone be so kind as to tell me why (if we were all one player) we have medals on different accounts. Simple logic tells you that any player would get all the medals on one account and then (if he wanted to) make ghost users afterwards rather than give them a share of the medals. I would like to re-iterate that we play the same levels because we talk about them to each other, and think of new ideas etc.
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor Kristopher
    A 1 pixel line would not be as thin as an invisable line; in the game, a Horizontal or Vertical line is completely invisable. It's still a good idea, though.
    Tabs's game on Cactus Vin
    haha my bad
    heres an apology tabs for requesing game in pm
    i hav no problem with public
    i was just waiting for reply, yes or no
    sorry

    there's a lot of contrevoursey lately probabaly due to new players changing the landscape of bod, wanting to kepp medals, i myself would now bow out from any contrevoursey.

    Im not taking sides in the al, gus mag, kenzo debate and i dont think anyone else should, i think it is similar to louis and I in that we get times at the same time by telling/showing each other. I will be the first to bow out and enjoy bod for the amaxzing game it is

    sry
    Preston Pak Schneider
    This was created by jayce newby and myself so dont give me all credit
    Levelpack Explorer Schneider
    new levels by me jayce and newby
    Sena's game on Fly! Vin
    ...or is it?
    dun dun dun...
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    cheack out the preston pak
    Sena's game on Fly! Vin
    wow this was here for almost a year and in 2 days, its down to 5th and nobody had their video public.
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Kristopher
    Why do I accuse you more than Vin's school? Because you still haven't explained what an international school is, or how that explains how you live in multiple countries, or how Magnus played this well if he doesn't play this game much. The fact the you all have medals really has no effect on any of you being ghosts.
    You can have multiple accounts, I suppose, but since you all play the same levels, if you guys can see each others game, it would be fair if we could, too.
    What is really annoying, though, is when

    * Gus proves once he can spell almost perfectly, but alex is too lazy to spell right;

    * alex doesn't know what letter my name starts with, but he is mad at me;

    * They keep saying "please open," approximately five times a week;

    * They keep saying they aren't ghosts because they both have medals;

    * Most of their comments are to each other, and not to the rest of us.

    Btw, just because you all get home at the same time, does not mean you would all post in the same five minutes as you did.
    Vin's game on Fly! Gus
    Well done!
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Gus
    Very rarely have I asked to open a game. What is your problem with the spelling!? An international school is a school that teaches the IB diploma program and we all go there (that's why we're all from different places, although we live in one place we say where we came from on our profiles!) I would like you ( Kristopher) to explain why you think we are ghosts. As for posting comments at the same time we telephone, e-mail and pm to say what is happening on BoD, so we then log in and post are comments which explains the similar times.

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    Vin's game on Fly! _alex_
    i knew this could b done =p jon almost missed the flag
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Gus
    *our not are
    magnus's game on Snowstorm _alex_
    hey i just type sloppy aint my fault!
    im not on the computer staring at a screen waiting to hear wat i say next to get back at me, and personally i dont know wy u would its just stupid to try and get every 1 else to open their games so that u might have a chance to beat em! ive stopped requesting games and i only ever asked for 3!
    Medals by Country mike flips
    canadas up there now they dont suck vin!
    magnus's game on Snowstorm Kristopher
    You guys were helping each other so much, Magnus probably didn't play much before this, yet it is done so well, he was either a ghost or had help.
    And please, spell correctly.
    Medals by Country Vin
    haha dude im just messing around, im going there for a week soon
    Preston Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Jayce Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Plumbing Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    The Beach Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Mario Pipes Jayce
    Level made by Newby and Jayce
    Town Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Josh Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Fox Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    Fox 2 Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    chopper Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    StepUps Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    Computer Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    Skills Jayce
    Level made by Newby
    mine field Jayce
    Level made by Newby

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    Cam Jayce
    Level made by Jayce
    Preston Pak Vin
    looks like theyr givin u no credit, not all
    Biker's Cafe You Qi
    Fellow Icemans...
    hey, where did you guys get those avatar? I mean... do they have names? I'm finding the full collection.
    Medals by Country mike flips
    lol awesome enjoy
    Gus's game on Downhill Madness Gus
    This is stupid
    Gus's game on Downhill Madness Gus
    Is a better time possible?
    Preston Pak _alex_
    this is a good pack, i rated it =)
    i really think that beach and maybe plumming should be online theyre great!
    The Beach Vin
    really cool looking...havent got a chance to download yet
    Vin's game on Hill Vin
    good end, bad beginning, combo of this plus good beginning gives u the 20.xs
    The Beach _alex_
    ye this lvl is great!
    the anoying part is the aves at begining and hat ball hing at the end i managed to kill myself on it 12 times out of 25 goes
    The Right Way Level Vega
    Yah, and I like it cuz I got the goldie medly but also -

    *Very nice layout and design
    *fun looking before you even play it
    *landscape drastically changes as your skills advance
    *must be very precise to get a fast time
    *many different styles to land a good time
    *Can climb your way into the top very quickly since most people have not mastered this level.

    I know this post is not new, but I just found it
    The Beach Vega
    This level is a winner. Great design!
    Gus's game on Downhill Madness _alex_
    told u u couildnt beat me
    The Beach Vin
    this is where we need the misscelaneous lvls for hof idea, theres great lvls that come out often, so like maybe one miscellaneous lvl per month would add to hof consistantly and keep you guessing plus motivate level makers to strive for excxellence
    The Beach DavidKing
    So beautiful.
    The Beach Louis
    great idea vin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! one level per month would be soo cool esp. levels like this ass
    DavidKing's game on pumb.org Vin
    wow congrats
    Vin's game on Triangles Vin
    hit ground at 13...blew it!!!!
    DavidKing's game on pumb.org DavidKing
    Thanks, but that is not good, I almost get 41.5X, careless...
    Vin's game on WOW DavidKing
    Congratulations, very nice.

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    mike flips's game on Cablecar mike flips
    one trick to no is that you have to go into the bottom left rail at full speed and break at the right moment that probably doesnt help anyone lol
    Vin's game on WOW Vin
    thanks
    Mario Pipes _alex_
    ive beaten every lvl but this! those bloody goomabs r so glitchy!
    The Beach Schneider
    Thank you guys for commenting this level good. I make almost all my levels a picture like this.
    Preston Pak Schneider
    I'm making a new level pack called the Halo 2 level pack. I don't know if any of you know about halo 2, but it is a X-box game that I really like. There will be some great levels in it. I hope you'll like them.
    Preston Pak Jayce
    Sorry, I was in Schneiders account looking at scores, I wrote the last message by Schneider
    The Beach Jayce
    I wrote the last Schneider message. I was looking at some scores that he had.
    Levelpack Explorer Jayce
    I'm making a new level pack called Halo 2 levels. They're based on the X-box game Halo 2.
    Mario Pipes Jayce
    Yah, I haven't even beaten this one yet. I only beat it in Bike or Design when the goomabs and turtle weren't there. Very Hard.
    Preston Pak Schneider
    Yah, I'm at his house showing him my scores, Then got distracted. He forgot he's loged in as me and wrote that mesage.
    Vin's game on Jump Over Aleksey
    Good
    Vin's game on Jump Over Vin
    Thx
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    LOOK AT ME GO woops srry for caps
    Vin's game on Square Vin
    opened, leave comments
    Jayce's game on Congratulations! Jayce
    I was so close to finially getting a metal. Dang it Schneider! I'll just have to try harder.
    Mario Pipes Vin
    Beat it, got a 1:01 prob not great but maybe first to beat it...louis owes me some money haha
    Ideas Daniel S.
    Cooler Bike
    Possibly there could be more bike options to make the game more personalized.
    things like
  • spokes = squigly, jagged, full, none, normal, stuff like that
  • biker = could have long hair, or a helmet, or the put your own face in the place or draw one sounds cool
  • more colors for bike
    you could make really cool bikes but you dont want to loose the simple stick man and stick bike because thats awsome.
  • Level based ground friction? Daniel S.
    I think the idea is interesting. but I say the maker of the level desides how much resistence there is so no one can get a better time just because they put the resistance at a good level. mabey you could just turn it on to have fun with though
    Mario Pipes _alex_
    ive only ever beat it once and i got a 57:28
    the point is to use the goombas to yur advantige
    o ye my lvl pack will be coming out soon, nothing as special as this but some quik fun lvls mixed in with some long chalenging 1s =)just putting some finising touches then ill e-mail to sz
    its called the psyco pack =)
    Report a bug soul_draco
    PLEASE HELP !
    Hi please can anybody help me ? Sth fucked with my PDA and it can't see Flash cards. I have to do hard reset but i will lost all my records and unlocked levels . . . Please tell me how can i backup these files. Thank u a lot

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    Aleksey's game on Jump Over Aleksey
    Smalls's game on Watch your head Smalls
    Only one to show in the top ten. Sorry it's not faster for you guys.
    Aleksey's game on Jump Over Vin
    sweet job
    Smalls's game on pumb.org Vin
    congrats, alex's way?
    Smalls's game on pumb.org DavidKing
    good job.
    Josh Jayce
    I was just wondering if anyone likes Josh Newby's levels any. His Palm and he's not getting a new one, but he would like to know. Never buy an E2 if you get the chance. They brake to easy.
    The Beach Jayce
    This level didn't take as long as most of the other levels for me to make, but it is a lot funner than most. I just wish that you could change the colors of the objects. It looks a little wierd with the shore, boat, and sun Blue.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    The top three has changed, _alex_ And Smalls is very close.
    Town Jayce
    This level is actually pretty dumb in my oppinion. The only hard part is the stairs. The rest is just for looks. What is you guy's oppinion?
    Fox 2 Jayce
    I think its dumb that he made two of the same levels. What do you think is the better level of the two?
    chopper Jayce
    This is one of his first levels and he really wanted it in the level pack. He had a level that was horrible. It was the inside of a car, but it looked like crap.
    Preston Pak Jayce
    I take a really long time on my levels. Right now I'm doing a simple level in the Halo 2 lvl pack. It has 3 trucks in it and it took me over an hour to do them nonstop. 2 of them are just front views of the trucks. Overall, its taken me about 2 hours to do this one little level.
    Vega's game on The Right Way CNR9116
    Wonderful...
    Preston Pak Jayce
    The reason I made the "WORD" levels, like Preston, Jayce, Josh, and Cam, is to introduce the makers of the lvls. The name comes before the lvls the person made. In Cam's case, he just submitted the pak and put no lvls in so I just put his name in.
    Smalls's game on pumb.org Smalls
    Thanks. Yes, my old one was that way too.
    Schneider's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    It's not easy. Just took some time to figure out how. It's doable almost every time once you know exactly what to do.
    Aleksey's game on Jump Over Aleksey
    Thx
    DavidKing's game on Square Smalls
    Very nice time!
    Vin's game on Square Vin
    there is a fater, yet as effective beginning and had i used it, i may hav gotten <14.50 but this middle/end is a good and easy one to copy
    PLEASE HELP ! MunkYBoY
    well assuming you hotsync often you should only have to hard reset and hotsync it. whatever you accomplished after your last hotsync wont be recovered from the hard reset. hope that helped, or made sense for that matter.

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    Fox 2 Vin
    i saww that logo on a t-shhirt the other day (:
    DavidKing's game on Square DavidKing
    Thanks
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Time Trial _alex_
    me 2 =)
    Gus's game on Downhill Madness Gus
    Ye but I equaled you...
    Down Gus
    And your point is....
    Josh Gus
    Tungsten E2?
    If so I agree
    mine's totally bust!
    Down Vin
    lol
    Josh Jayce
    I had an E2 along with two other people. Mine broke and my warranty was lost. Josh has gotten at least 5 new ones under the same warranty because they all broke within a month. The last kid's still hasn't broken yet, but I bet it will soon. Now I have a TX, and its great. I did have one problem with the calibration. I replaced it, but the other one is perfect.
    Kristopher's game on Teapot Kristopher
    Finally, I submitted again.
    Kristopher's game on Shark! Kristopher
    Yes, it is.
    Kristopher's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    Open.
    Flips Leson - It's a Zodiac Kristopher
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I am back for a day. I submitted another 120 games.
    Pierre Nico's game on Hill Gus
    Thats what I call a cautious ride!!!
    The Two's game on Downhill Madness Gus
    hahahahahaha u both suk!!
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Gus
    I agree with zodiacfreak. Anyone can do this and Vin already has. The only difference is that he doesn't have 30 votes.
    prince jon's game on Cave 2 Gus
    Thats the trick for a fast end.
    Your beginning was awful.
    prince jon's game on Cave 2 Vin
    theres a faster end...my beginning was much worse, i cant get urs
    Vin's game on Konecnik Vin
    woohoo whole top ten is public "the way car buying should be"
    prince jon's game on Cave 2 _alex_
    not my ending =P

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    Ideas
    bike or design
    it would be really nice if you could free draw in bike or design instead of 'connecting the dots' which is so time consuming. that would make creating level so much easier!
    Ideas
    the bike
    also the bike on the game should be more reallistic instead of just a frame. it should have handlebars, a seat, peddles and a chain. and when you are still, the guy seems to vibrate. am i the only one?
    Time Trial Champions Vin
    2nd in TTC and tied for second in gold medals, I think its time to retire. I returned my friends palm and louis also deleted BOD, not because its a bad game, cuz it rules, it just takes lots of time (cuz of its awesomity). So unfortunately, this may be that last you see of us....maybe not, but we're attempting to quit this amazing game.
    Medals by Country Vin
    possible parting gift to you US folk, try to stay above tabs, unfortunetaly, he rules.
    Psyco pack _alex_
    my packs finally online, cool my best lvls r eruption, eruption to tsunami and the final psyco
    _alex_'s game on Jump Over _alex_
    dam!
    i accidently put a space!
    sz do u think u could put this acc into mine!
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Lose a respected rival once again, this is sad, perhaps I should have a rest too.
    _alex_'s game on Jump Over _alex_
    yay my games back to me =)
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    both vin and louis leaving =( its sad they made the competition funner =( well good by
    Vin's game on Shark! Vin
    heres for those of you who dont know the trick here it is
    Shark! Time Trial Vin
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=52842
    ~the trick~
    Vin's game on Shark! _alex_
    thx =) but r u retiring fer good or just fer a bit?
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    New Gold! New Freestyle! ....... most difficult BOD accomplishment for me so far
    DavidKing's game on Square Rouch
    Snifffff Bye bye my only gold medal
    Congratulations
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Aleksey
    Nice game
    DavidKing's game on Square DavidKing
    Sorry Rouch, in fact I do not want this gold medal.
    Time Trial Champions Louis
    prob come back when school and homework lessens down
    Even more determination not to Die! Daniel S.
    I think that if you hotsync the palm after this starts happening then that fixes it so if anyone else had this problem just try hotsyncing it first.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Gus
    i always tried this but never succeeded
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains _alex_
    amazing!

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    Even more determination not to Die! _alex_
    for me the problem is that i have to many lvl packs( i got tungeten e2) so i either delete replays or some usseless packs then download them agen
    Fellow Icemans... _alex_
    i got mine off smiley center and got gus and jon his wen they slept over while kenzo chose his own =)
    DavidKing's game on Square Rouch
    Anyway you deserve it because I know the trick and it was really hard doing it. I'm sure you try it hundreds times.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains _alex_
    thats 3 barrier times uve broken,
    lvl,1,5 and here
    DavidKing's game on Square _alex_
    ill have it if u dont want it =P
    ne chance of opeing sometime soon?
    DavidKing's game on Square Vin
    theres a trick?
    Report a bug
    uploading times
    i uploaded my times with websync but they dont appear i my profile!They were the standard levels. can sombody help me?
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains PMD
    That is seriously hard to do. I was hoping to be the first, but after almost 8,000 tries you beat me to it. Very nicely done.
    Tabs's game on Sharper Than Glass Gus
    impressive!
    Tabs's game on Sharper Than Glass _alex_
    i knew i couldnt keep gold here =) but at least it was u who beat me
    DavidKing's game on Bike Impossible _alex_
    dk ne chance of opening now that uve been bumped doen into 5th?
    DavidKing's game on Bike Impossible DavidKing
    ok.
    Vin's game on Square _alex_
    wats this faster begining your talking about?
    i would like to try it if u could explain it to me
    Vin's game on Square Vin
    theres 2 ways, one is wheelie straight right and do it the same as this without going left (hard to pull off) or go left and as soon as you hit wall turn and accelerate (no brake) and you wont even hav to balance itll auto-wheelie and youll hav as much speed
    Vin's game on Bird Vin
    opened, david, wanna show a second better too?
    Medals by Country Vin
    visiting thialand for a bit
    Vin's game on Obstacalis Muchus Vin
    opened
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    just a sujstion,
    for a new lvl pack for online competition the pack could include:

    lava lamp (lvl 2 boordom)
    dragon (lvl 6 zodiac gammer comunity)
    beach (lvl 4 preston pack)
    jude (lvl 2 siulun's 2ed lvls)
    fall down (lvl 14 siulun's 2ed lvls
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    _alex_: post that in the Biker's Cafe and we can add some more to it.
    Touch Bricks Time Trial Kristopher
    This looks like Oliver's death as the leader of the Standard Levels if he doesn't do it soon.

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    Fellow Icemans... You Qi
    Hey thanks!!! btw, click my picture and see my profile!
    hopefully Sz won't see this forever! lol!
    Fellow Icemans... You Qi
    forget it what I say, the code just don't work.
    _alex_'s game on Square DavidKing
    Congratulations.
    DavidKing's game on Bird DavidKing
    Still have 1 second Space.
    _alex_'s game on Square _alex_
    thx
    Oh Come on!!! _alex_
    how r u supposed to beat this im stuck and i really wanted to get to zeeky h bomb, or if i could have help with the next
    Oh Come on!!! _alex_
    nvm i got it =)
    DavidKing's game on Bird Gus
    if you can beat it so easily then open it!
    DavidKing's game on Bird _alex_
    well done an amazing time , but then again wat can u expect from the best player in the world
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    well done aleksy =)
    u beat vin pity he wont b able to fight back
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Gus
    nice time!
    Oh Come on!!! Vin
    just fyi if ur stuck u can go to bike or design (even for hof levels) and switch the level order and ull still be able to submit times, etc.
    DavidKing's game on Bird Vin
    sweet job, share if u want
    Aleksey's game on Die or Die! Aleksey
    Thx
    DavidKing's game on Bird DavidKing
    Thanks, but I am very negligible, there are a lot of better players in the world, just they have not submitted, the best at present, it should be Tabs.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Thanks everyone. PMD, this took me about 8000 tries as well (after I already had Gold). See page 6 of my "Games on-line" section for several more looks at how it's done!
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    I got 25.94
    Levelpack Explorer _alex_
    come on every1 try out my pack leave coments rate it!
    how do u check how many downloads it has?
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    25.58 now!
    When a new levelpack for ttc is made I hope Underground revisited is in it!
    Biker's Cafe Gus
    New TTC lvl pack
    I'm keen for a new TTC lvl pak and I would be interested to know the preferred lvls for it if anyone else wants it too.
    I'd love Kristophers Underground revisited to be on it.

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    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Check this out. I could redo it and land it ofcourse, but no real motivation since I was cheated by the game on this one so bad. At least we know 24.xx is possible..... http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=49030
    MATA's game on Street _alex_
    i beat u by 1.66 seconds.
    no point in answering an old post but still
    _alex_'s game on Street _alex_
    dont worry gus i just got better
    Biker's Cafe _alex_
    my idea for a new time trial pack
    in it, it should include:
    lava lamp (lvl 2 boordom)
    dragon flame (lvl 15 ruroba's lvls)
    beach (lvl 4 preston pack)
    eruption! (lvl 6 psyco pack)
    jude (lvl 2 siulun's 2ed lvls)
    fall down (lvl 14 siulun's 2ed lvls
    go to your room (lvl 5 boordom)
    plumbing (lvl 3 preston pack)
    rocket (lvl 18 RFKII)
    king and queen (lvl 10 in 20's)
    sharp corners (lvl 2 dieter's lvls 5)
    jungle (lvl 8 hank chill chalenge)

    if chosen the lvls will be edited and their names changed unless they are good enugh as they are =)
    thank you for reading
    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    also can i have some advice for lvls to try to include
    dont be worried to post your ideas =)
    Gus's game on Street Gus
    I hate tying people!
    jasonjerome's game on Big Cheese randog77
    Wow!! Thats amazing! Nice job...
    Tabs's game on Sharper Than Glass Gus
    Tabs what do you think is the best possible here?
    Time Trial Champions Thiago
    This ranking changed a lot since the last time I saw it! There are a lot of new (good) players and my rank fell from 19th to 46th!

    How long do you (all) play this game??? My first submission was in 04/feb/2005!

    The best player of all times was RACHMAN! I have no doubts! But some other players were/are also very good, i.e: Oliver, You Qi, Prayer and DavidKing! These guys made history!

    Actually I just play to finish the levels, I don't have time anymore...
    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    no1 have ne ideas?
    BikeOrDie - 20`s Bg
    Opinions please?
    Vega's game on The Right Way _alex_
    dont think we'll c vin comeback =( pity he retired
    my idea for a new time trial pack Kristopher
    I'll look at it in a few days. I would like to have another levelpack out within a month, and I could compile it, as I did with the last pack.
    Levelpack Explorer _alex_
    just to let u all no im making another lvl pack this 1 will be much better made and smoother itll b called bike or die-alex's lvls so hope u enjoy wen it comes out
    Tabs's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Maybe I'm not very intelligent either I meant 'new'! Anyway even DavidKing recognizes that Tabs is one of the best players in the game.
    Vega's game on Underground _alex_
    how did u fail?
    i saw our head hit first!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    I guess my head hit the bombs before my tire hit the flag It's ok. Maybe I'll beat this for fun one day!
    _alex_'s game on Street Louis
    vin figured this ass out and i tried it before that too U JUST HANG DOWN TO THE RIGHT OF THE CAR
    DavidKing's game on Street DavidKing
    JUST HANG DOWN TO THE RIGHT OF THE CAR?
    _alex_'s game on Street _alex_
    nope not that =P
    some else but the area is right =P

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    _alex_'s game on Street Vin
    its not a hang, its a flip so the front of your bike hits the part sticking out and you're already going left. When you hit that part sticking out, your head is pointed to the ground
    _alex_'s game on Street _alex_
    not that either =P
    fine ill tell the point is to miss it and weelie down the steps =P
    Vin's game on Cave 2 Vin
    i bet its alexs end
    DavidKing's game on Bird _alex_
    tabs is a great player he has more golds than anybody else but he just plays those lvls consistantly!
    while u play every lvl and have medaled most of em and therefor u should definetly be first
    =)
    Vin's game on Cave 2 _alex_
    nope lol mine like youqui freestyle lol
    Vin's game on Cave 2 Vin
    then lets see make it freestyle ill vote
    7AK8G's game on Catapult Back 7AK8G
    I eat poop, I eat lots of poop.

    All Day long!
    7AK8G's game on Catapult Back 7AK8G
    YEAHHH! WOOOOOO! AWWWSOOOOOOOOOMMME! DA BEST!!! WOOOT!!!!! SCHWEET! SHAWEET!

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    DavidKing's game on Street nbcl
    Vin's game on Cave 2 _alex_
    no thx i dont want this trik to get out =P
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vin
    no offense but this run isnt good theres like 3 easy flips and only 2 people have favorably commented. so howd u get 27 votes?
    DavidKing's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    Cable car it, it's hard, but doable! Nicely done though!
    Oliver's game on Clay Serpent Goldpump56
    Lol...wow. A little bit of anti-grav at the end there. Nicely done.
    Roel's game on Underground Goldpump56
    Now that's amazing. A definite vote from me.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Louis
    howd ur mom get 34
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Louis
    jk u know u want to
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Louis
    lol TH i mean TL i mean TJ
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vega
    Alex - play fair man. You have done well to help us forget what a rocky start you had but come on man....there is no way this run is worth 27 votes
    DavidKing's game on Bird Tabs
    The best player is the one with the most points.
    Therefore DavidKing is the best BoD'er.
    As for me I just dont have the time to play every
    game on every level pack - so I just tend to pick
    short fast games.
    Tabs's game on Sharper Than Glass Tabs
    I reckon under 40 seconds.

    This game is highly flukeable - someone will get lucky
    with this game.


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    Tabs's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Tabs
    Nearly
    Vin's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Vin
    opened as promised
    Vin's game on ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c. Vin
    if i lose gold ill show it
    Kenzo's game on Cave 2 Vin
    is this beginnign hard?
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    hey not my fault my freestyle got this many votes,
    u no wat u guys r actually a hunch of gits ur not acting cool any more if a guy gets 27 votes hes cheating!
    well how bout vin.... amazing! he broke through a floor!
    and how bout wert guy!
    wats is it with u!

    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    o ye let me add 1 more thing
    i go to school!
    im 1 of the only 1s in school to have beaten this lvl!
    they all saw it and loved it if they knew how to submit id have 60 people voting for me!
    how bout that huh
    its not always how the freestyle looks to beter players its how it looks to every1! and the majority arnt in top 50!
    Kenzo's game on Cave 2 Kenzo
    no, but like alex said what is with you, i mean so wat if alex has 27 votes for his freestyle.I liked it!
    so i no he probably dosnt need me backing him up but i will because i complety agree with him
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    i havent voted for this as i dont think its too hard to do, but seriously Roguenines freestyle is wose than this. ok this isnt great but its quite hard to do for me at least so i see why it gets votes. there are more dodgy freestyles with more votes than this one.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Gus
    Sorry that was me alex was showing me some of his games online and i commented from his by mistake
    You Qi's game on Pipe Universe Gus
    wow
    You Qi's game on Pipe Universe _alex_
    skill you qi broken another barrier in standard =)
    im still tryin t beat u in malyz lol
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vin
    sorry im not trying to pick a fight, btw just to defend mine a bit, before i submitted the best time breaking through the ground was in the 13s, and mine and vegas recordings ultimately led to the wave of 12.0x-1x scores. wertguy and rougenines are widely known as ghost users so dont compare. Ive see ur times, scores, and runs. You and I know this isnt nearly ur best, even in this lvl, let alone the rest of them. Im not being a jerk, im just saying put ur current best game or breakthrough trick in freestyle, not some old one with 27 magical votes, 3 from kenzo and 24 from...?
    IZodiac: The Best ...lol
    This is a cool looking pack... its a shame i dont have BoD anymore.. ehh..
    but you got some art skills with the editor man, your musical and tool levels look great, as does the 'Hip' Artist level and the Lexus thingy really does look like the lexus thing.
    You have potential for this.. nice job!
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vega
    Where are the votes coming from? It had 2 comments and 27 votes?!! Makes no sense..... Nobody doubts that you are a great player Alex or you wouldn't have all the medals you have. That's not what is in question here....
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Kristopher
    The entire Freestyle competition is overrun with ghosts and uneducated votes (people still vote for Roel). Sz was planning to change it a lot, but for now, I would like to see what games each person has voted for. That could solve this.
    Btw, alex, most of the people who have voted here have probably posted. You should know who they are.
    Psyco pack Jayce
    This level pak is ok, but not that great. It could use quite a bit of improvement. example, make the flips a little tighter in some places to increase the difficulty.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    ye id like to c who voted fer me, i didnt use ghosts cos i dont really care bout freestyle compo much i just like to show some of my beter looking games
    Psyco pack _alex_
    ye i no im making a much beter pack atm for the online competition including lvls people have suggested that i have changed it-ll b called bike or die alexs lvls, ye i jno ive advertised it b4 but now i found a new statgy of making em
    You Qi's game on U Jump _alex_
    go you qi w00t w00t
    mind opening?
    soz to ask
    You Qi's game on U Jump You Qi
    nothing special, that's why I dont want to open it.
    anway, it's exactly the same as jasonjerome game.

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    You Qi's game on U Jump Vin
    me too
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vin
    u say that noobs will be like 'wow i cant do this' and give u 3 votes without commenting, but if they say they cant do this, they should vot for davidking's, sena's, rachman's, etc, much harder and they would be like wow.
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre _alex_
    not my fault my freestyle is more apreciated, your just a sore loser
    (especially the loser part)
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    Auto Game Pause on Phone Call
    I wish BoD to listen to Treo Phone Calls notifies and auto pause the game when I got incomming call. It often happens I get hit by call when I *almost* finished a level. Pretty annoying
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Vin
    is that supposed to be a diss?
    i would like the 9+ people besides prince jon come up and say they gave all three votes to this freestyle. oh wait. theyre all u (or someone from ur school)
    but we all kno theyr ghosts
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    ! bonkers !
    You Qi's game on Pipe Universe You Qi
    well, malyz 39seconds is possible i think.
    Malysz Time Trial You Qi
    is MALYSZ means Adam MALYSZ?
    Jayce's game on Zip-Zap _alex_
    cangrats jayce your first medal =)
    Vega's game on The Right Way _alex_
    your just to good at some lvls =P
    You Qi's game on Malysz _alex_
    39 may b possible but i dont think ull cath me doing it though =P
    You Qi's game on Malysz Vin
    I want to see the snagging the flag, is it hard? mind showing and opening lvl for competition?
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre nbcl
    I find it quite funny that you've commented on your own freestyle saying "i havent voted for this as i dont think its too hard to do".

    That's not curious and dodgy at all is it?
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre Gus
    If you had read the next comment by me you would see that the previous commemt was me on _alex_'s account. Read more carefully.
    PMD's game on Touch Bricks _alex_
    brilliant game!!
    first gold medal for u, how does it feel?
    btw mind opening sometime?
    PMD's game on Touch Bricks You Qi
    can you stop calling ppl opening their medal game when you are just so stingy to share yours? it's so disgusting!
    PMD's game on Touch Bricks PMD
    I am pretty happy with it. It wasn't the perfect game--nearly though. I think someone could beat it. I think that 16.xx is possible.
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    ok most of my games are opened, soz thpught some of them were opened b4
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    lets have a vote shall we,
    who wants this open!!

    soz you qi guess i was being a bit stingy
    DavidKing's game on Omaha Beach _alex_
    nice game
    mind opening,
    lol kiding

    recently lots of medals have been had

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    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    no1 wants it open??? ok then ill close
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks Vin
    i do just was at school (live in the US) lets see this dude
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    thats 1-1 kenzo wants shut u want open come on more votes!!!!!!
    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    just bringing this bak up ne have ideas?
    Vin's game on Riding School Part 2 _alex_
    and vins third agen =)
    Tabs's game on Spiral _alex_
    nice 1 tabs your getting to many medals nowadays lol
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    im cathing up
    o btw ill open my game if 5 people want it they just have to post and say
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    just got better =P
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    open
    leave comments
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks Gus
    i want it open as you know!!!!!
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks Vin
    so does louis and me
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    PMD's game on Touch Bricks Smalls
    I agree, I could have gotten 16** a while ago, now I am out of practice, Nicely done!!
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks Vin
    (is 3 enough?)
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    lol....congrats, but why secret? How much different can it be from your 0:12,00 ??
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    erm.. yeah.. i did another 11'98.. a different way too. neato
    The Veenk's game on Underground The Veenk
    Just wait i'll pass you
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    nope only 2 more
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks ...lol
    Me too..
    _alex_'s game on Teapot _alex_
    ill b trying to get my medal bak here!

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    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre nbcl
    Yeah, my bad. Didn't realise there was two pages.
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    still 1 vote!
    You Qi's game on U Jump _alex_
    more i c it more i love it
    You Qi's game on Midnight Mess You Qi
    found this in my garbage. the game was completed in 13June2005.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Not yet perfected tho.. i think i see a 11,90 possible
    Vega's game on Riding School Part 2 You Qi
    the 'thru-wall-turning' was easy to perform if you got a pda which able to hold and generate a few keydown event in a specific interval. For biker like me using jog-dial, it's hard to do unless i really got a perfect timing.
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    Bonkers!
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    the doubleflip is back...vega'll be happy
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    saw that.....but I wonder if this is how he hit 11.94?? These are amazing times for this level.
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks _alex_
    open
    mike flips's game on Fruits _alex_
    flipular
    Tabs's game on Cactus ...lol
    weirdo vin
    Tabs's game on Cactus Kristopher
    I'm done trying to become the next Time Trial Champion, too. It's noone's fault, but knowing several others who play this game is a big advantage that noone had expected. I'm writing programs now, so that keeps me busy, but I'll be back for the next levelpack.
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Orphaned Images Still on Website
    My player number is 1769, so my avatar is one of these three:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/pic/1769.gif
    http://bike.toyspring.com/pic/1769.jpg
    http://bike.toyspring.com/pic/1769.png

    But I noticed all three of those files are still on this web site, when only the most current one should be. The other two are no longer used.
    Orphaned Images Still on Website You Qi
    it only will replace if you use the same format of picture again.
    Gus's game on Teapot Gus
    Not a great run is it? Now you can see how better times can be done.
    Jumping Trial Time Trial ~nick~111
    hey its nick im a new player hope i get some hard competition lol...

    _alex_'s game on Jumping Trial ~nick~111
    hi its nick i hope ill get some hard competition
    Tabs's game on Hillz ~nick~111
    hey its nick im a new player i have herd how good you are

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    jonas's game on Snowstorm ~nick~111
    glueks schwein
    _alex_'s game on Skyway _alex_
    best wthout using trick =)

    Report a bug spencer6
    profiles
    Is ther any way i can delete an online profile? I kept forgetting my password so i had to make more. and now i have to many and it is messing with my uploads because it downloads to the wrong one. Help!!
    ~nick~111's game on Jumping Trial _alex_
    so u finally decided to submit, wat changed your mind?
    o btw can u come over tomoro?
    bike or design Gavin S.
    that definatly would save tons of time! good idea
    You Qi's game on Skyway nbcl
    Cor!
    You Qi's game on Malysz You Qi
    let me have a few more medals 1st.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    ill open it if u want me to vega.. cuz i dont have a palm no more so i cant really.. up the ante
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Louis
    this is so... how do u say it ... secy!
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    I think it's amazing that you have obtained 11.xx bcuz I have played this level 40 zillion times and I was thrilled to nail :12,02 .... so in that case.... let's see it please!
    Vin's game on Bird mike flips
    i like that little stall at the bottom right corner
    Roel's game on Underground Jacenthered
    Awsome stunt! You have my vote.
    _alex_'s game on Downhill Madness ...lol
    you should try spinning really fast next time, maybe youll get lucky
    rick's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    this guy ownss
    _alex_'s game on Downhill Madness _alex_
    ok ill give it a go
    ive got this time exactly 22 times =S
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks mike flips
    If this isnt freestyle then what is!!!!???
    _alex_'s game on Fly! _alex_

    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks mike flips
    THIS IS TRUE FREESTYLE CHECK IT OUT
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks ...lol
    stuff that isnt gay and is cool to watch..
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks ...lol
    originality...

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    Bike or Die v1.3g P.Kitty
    The newest version (h I think) has only crashed (freeze) once but it was a level pack issue (I think). I have yet to try the upload thing, should I type anything on the proxy thing if I have it on direct?
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre ~nick~111
    i like it
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre panda man
    looks much better on your palm, you have a huge drop then suddenly start flipping
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks Vega
    no offense but the flips thing has been done on several different levels in several different ways. this is not original....
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks ...lol
    agreed. only if there were tricks in this game would there reaallly be freestyle.
    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    ok im making the pack BOD-challenge pack
    sopfar it has 14 lvls
    mike flips's game on Touch Bricks Gus
    powermans freestyle is practically the same. we want tricks not flips!
    Lucas's game on Shelf 7AK8G
    Holey Smokes!
    Tabs's game on Spiral Tabs
    Dam - I've been trying to beat Vin's score for
    a couple of days.Close but not close enough.

    DavidKing's game on Teapot DavidKing
    Kristopher's game on Teapot Kristopher
    I've opened this, even though I still had the secret to the gold medal.
    Oliver's game on Riding School Oliver
    well, the new bike or die version really is faster and more flexible...
    maybe the engine is upgraded!!

    cheers
    Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
    Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
    wait till the new bike or die version come out and you'll surely best this one easily...hehe
    Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Oliver
    i'm pretty sure this can not be done on the previous versions.
    really cool anyway!!!
    Oliver's game on Underground Oliver
    i mean beat
    Oliver's game on Underground Tabs
    STUNNING PLAY.

    Report a bug delhium
    Wrong user name
    Very strange is that my game is registred to "delphium" which is also my hotsync name, but my submitted scores are under the name "delhium". Any ideas?
    Wrong user name You Qi
    the name you entered in the column where after the game finish was wrong. try to replace it with the correct 1 next time you win a game.
    Oliver's game on Underground Vega
    Great run! But I don't know about 'easily' beating this Oliver....there is not much room left for improvement here. I suppose maybe .1 or .2 seconds but that's it. I do not suspect that a flurry of people will be accomplishing 16.xx tho.... it takes too long to master

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    Graphic import on Lvl Editor MacGuru
    What was meant by the 1 pixel line, was the same premise as the single vector line used to make invisible walls in the Palm based editor. The import would interpret non polygonal shapes (i.e. - solitary lines) as to points connected by a single line, thus making it invisible.
    Level based ground friction? MacGuru
    Well yes, I would assume that friction or gravity settings would be available in BikeOrDesign when you create the level.

    So you make a nice wintery level... you could increase the gravity a tad and bump the friction down low so you slide as if on a slippery ice surface. Of course one can always edit the level themselves but we all know what happens to those who cheat
    Oliver's game on Underground DavidKing
    Congratulations, I use the old version 1.2f for a long time, I perhaps should have a try of new version, very much glad to see that leader of us comes back.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial theONE
    sweet, one of my levels is now offical, how do yall like it
    Oliver's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Oliver! You are an absolutely outrageous player. This is so good I can't even believe it. My best time without using the trick was 31.52 twice. Maybe the new version of BOD really is great bcuz I could never play this level this good
    Oliver's game on Underground Kristopher
    Like I said, the competition on this level is just too hard. The top five rankers all had a gold here at some point.
    Vega's game on The Right Way Vega
    The Right Way played the right way!
    Gus's game on Foothill Half Circle Gus
    open
    Lee's game on Parachute _alex_
    nice =)
    Lee's game on Parachute Lee
    Really Lucky catch at the right hand end - could be faster through the top by at least a second yet.
    Vin's game on Parachute Vin
    badend and 2 seconds short on beginning
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i passed prayer
    torrobinson's game on Big Cheese Goldpump56
    No doubt an impressive flip count, probably a record. But I agree, there are *way* more exciting freestyles.
    _alex_'s game on Sqare _alex_
    how do i do it
    Lee's game on Parachute You Qi
    Hey Lee, LONG TIME NO SEE!
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Oliver
    perfect landing on the third hill. i've also been trying this for some time but also no success. great thinking....now i'm pretty sure more can copy your style and also do it. but you're the first though. got one vote for me.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial _alex_
    i hate it =P
    Vin's game on Sqare Vin
    Is this it alex/david?
    _alex_'s game on Malysz _alex_

    no snagging
    Vin's game on Sqare _alex_
    lol, not even close to my way
    but very inovative

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    Lee's game on Parachute Lee
    Yey YouQi yeah - I tried to remove thea ddiction, but ended up coming back... what can I say.
    you want to see this? - there's not much to it, but just for you...
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Amazing that you were able to pretty much duplicate your :20,72 run but even improve upon it. Mine looks nothing like this. Maybe one day I'll make it public!
    Vin's game on Sqare DavidKing
    Close to my way.
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vin
    make yours public when u beat this, oliver
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Vin
    The easy(er) way
    leave comments
    Vin's game on The Well Vin
    leave comments
    Lee's game on Parachute You Qi
    COOL~ FANSTASTIC RUN!
    well, BoD game is cruel~~ it forced me not to sell my clie because of this game.
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Lee
    Okay, that rocks... I still have no idea how you guys can compress your bikes up so much without imploding against these walls. Great work
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Okay Vin I guess I'll make my game public since you showed yours and it's similar... people are going to think we collaberated on this level or something....
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Full course record.....any challengers??
    Vega's game on Underground nbcl
    That sproingy bit in the tunnel! Blimey.
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    Wowser! This is incredible.
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    Without the sproingy bit (as nbcl so aptly describes it) I don't think you can even get close to this.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vin
    ...or that great minds think alike
    nice full course underground too
    i will never hav a palm again cuz we had to turn them in
    (leaving the school for high school)
    so ill slowly open stuff
    _alex_'s game on Sqare Vin
    as a public service to boders if u open this ill open u jump or vertical ave
    _alex_'s game on Sqare _alex_
    dont think so soz
    this was a really well thought out trick and i dont want it to get lose
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Hey check it out everyone! Since I started playing BOD long after the rachman! era I'll probably never really know how much he contributed to the game, but he seems to be a bit of a BOD Legend. This recording is pretty good proof that he is the first person to come up with the spring trick that has changed this whole level. His game comment is on page 2 of 304 in the forum. Crazy eh?
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Smalls
    Wow! That's all I can say! Very well done!!
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe Albert-13
    ohh man yo're so good and also the best mexican on this game¡¡¡ congratulations¡¡¡
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue mike flips
    u should show this sometime

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    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 You Qi
    Just for your information, most of the route you are using today was firstly found by rachman! I miss him so much.....
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    sry its PMDs call, he came up with it and closed it first, so i wont open it unless he tells me to or does so first
    its really sweet tho
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    my bottom right wall bounce was incredible
    and ive gotten it again in a 31
    with the incredible wall
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 DavidKing
    This is why I think that he is the real champion, nobody can surmount him so far.
    Sam.'s game on Bottle 7AK8G
    looks like you were having more fun "twirling" instead of actually playing
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 Oliver
    i totally agree, rachman! rules this game...
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Oliver
    hi Vin, no point for me beating you...
    let's just wait for the next version and it will sure be faster then we'll see our name disappearing on the front page... (unless you continue playing, which for me is unlikely unless there is an extremely new trick that excites me like that of "touch brick" (maybe Sz's sales strategy? cannot blame him...)

    Lee, if you have tried the new version you will surely see the difference, I myself felt it that you can really compress the bike without imploding...

    cheers everyone!
    _alex_'s game on Malysz Vin
    can u open?
    ill open ujump
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue PMD
    Very hard to do fast, but if everthing goes perfect, someone could do under 29 seconds.
    Smalls's game on Bottle Smalls
    No. I just switch and pedal really fast.
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    The only thing left to try on this level is finding a way to somehow avoid having to stop and turn around on the top right hand plateau near the blue arrow sign……if someone can figure out how to spring from the diagonal upward slope to land on the final stretch heading toward the flag maybe that would increase the time by a couple secs....any takers??
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue mike flips
    well im assuming its like what i did in my game for the wall thing, except i didnt do a perfect ride at the beginning
    New TTC lvl pack Kristopher
    I'm starting a discussion in the other thread so post there instead.
    my idea for a new time trial pack Kristopher
    lava lamp (lvl 2 boordom)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=223
    It looks short like Equisplateral. We need a third opinion.

    dragon flame (lvl 15 ruroba's lvls)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=546
    Good. Add it.

    beach (lvl 4 preston pack)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1163
    Also great.

    eruption! (lvl 6 psyco pack)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1190
    Okay, but capitalize the name.

    jude (lvl 2 siulun's 2ed lvls)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=859
    Good, but maybe it should be called "Jade?"

    fall down (lvl 14 siulun's 2ed lvls
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=871
    I'll see how hard it is. I hope there aren't any short cuts.

    go to your room (lvl 5 boordom)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=226
    It needs some improvement, but looks fun.

    plumbing (lvl 3 preston pack)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1162
    I'll try it tonight...

    rocket (lvl 18 RFKII)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=830
    We need a third opinion here, too.

    king and queen (lvl 10 in 20's)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1184
    A little short, but one short one would be okay.

    sharp corners (lvl 2 dieter's lvls 5)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=739
    Another short level. I'm not sure.

    jungle (lvl 8 hank chill chalenge)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=311
    Definitely not all three short levels.

    I'll suggest a few more tomorrow.
    Fall Down _alex_
    sorry to say this kris, but ive got 11:60
    there is a trik
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Vin
    sweet
    Vin's game on Die or Die! Vin
    open'd
    Vin's game on Die or Die! Vin
    right first!
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    Don't think that it can be done, but I'll try it.
    Vin's game on Die or Die! _alex_
    this is amazing!
    =/

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    my idea for a new time trial pack Kristopher
    Fall Down
    Since there is a trick, I don't want it in the Hall of Fame.

    Plumbing
    On second thought, this is too gross for the Hall of Fame. Sorry.

    However, I would like to add these levels:

    IZodiac: The Best -> Control Lesson - Tools
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1113

    IZodiac: The Best -> IZODIAC
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1112

    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    'Hip' Designer Artistic Squares
    ahould also b there its really well made
    and fun to play
    Biker's Cafe MunkYBoY
    HA! alright i'm back now
    so yesterday was my birthday and for it i got a new Tungsten E2 so i should be updating my times a lot more.

    Sz, i have a question. i had to format my old computer that had all my times on it and my old palm pilot. so my question is, when i'm playing and i get a time what will happen when i try to post my times?
    HA! alright i'm back now _alex_
    tunstens scrath easyly so keep it in your case =)
    and out of the 500 students in secondary at my school wid palms 421 had to send thier palms in to have batters replaced (this is still the schooles first year lol)
    my idea for a new time trial pack Kristopher
    Okay. Any other levels?
    HA! alright i'm back now Kristopher
    I wouldn't say the E2 is any better or worse than another Palm product. That is weird, with all those Palms breaking, though. MunkyBoy, all of the recordings from your Palm will be copied to your PC. Then, no matter which ones are uploaded to this site, the fastest times you have submitted for each level will be used. The Java uploader will think many of those are best times, when they aren't, so it will upload them, but your previous best times will still be saved and used if they are the fastest.
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    THE ULTIMATE DETOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    everyone complained how i did to many flips in my last free style and you all said u wanted to see come new tricks or a new idea... so here it is!!! enjoy
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Gus
    Done this before and if u check freestyle compo this is someones!
    Vin's game on Die or Die! DavidKing
    very nice.
    Bálint's game on Sqare DavidKing
    Smalls, I think that Bálint may be corresponding to my way, I will open this game soon.
    DavidKing's game on Sqare DavidKing
    Opened
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Done this like 20 times. It's an unavoidable result of going too high when trying to jump the second valley. But what's really cool is if you can pull off catching both wheels up there and riding completely upside down!
    HA! alright i'm back now MunkYBoY
    alright, thank you
    my idea for a new time trial pack ...lol
    I don't think that 'Hip' Designer Artistic Squares should be in this pack.. it doesn't have enough to it to make it any fun. I've played it some and it really isn't that good as a level.
    Oliver's game on Riding School Vega
    Well done Oliver
    DavidKing's game on Sqare _alex_
    still not my way =P
    Vin's game on Double Sprint MunkYBoY
    i think oliver has some kind of 6th sense for bike or die....its creepy cool
    Roel's game on Underground mrigg94
    That's amazing!
    Roel's game on Underground Vega
    You guys are hilarious.....yes it's amazing....but this is really really old news by now

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    my idea for a new time trial pack _alex_
    sp finally wen i suggest a lvl u decide take part in this thread? i ask for a vote dk? tabs? like the lvl how bout u vin or louis even u tryed it before
    i like it jon likes it gus like kenzo likes it so how much is that atm
    4 to 1
    (5 if kris likes it)
    Roel's game on Underground _alex_
    ye thats true wy vite it was amzng at the time but now practicly every1 in top 50 for underground has done faster
    ( i guessed how many people, ive never been to underground page)
    my idea for a new time trial pack Gus
    I do think that it's a really fun level, and a well made one too.
    magnus's game on Shelf ~nick~111
    alex did not play the time for magnus magnus was just faster than all of u so y dont let him have this one medal he has deserved it
    Vin's game on Hill mike flips
    maybe they jump from that big tree in the middle all the way down to that little valley two trees to the left without touching anything
    _alex_'s game on KL City Centre ~nick~111
    alex even though im your friend i think this game is rubbish no offense but i could have done better!
    ~nick~111's game on Sqare ~nick~111
    this is total rubbish alex never showed me the begining and he never helped me and alex never hack my acount again
    Cooler Bike MacGuru
    I can understand more colors... but there IS a reason the bike is so simple.

    My assumtion is the more complex the bike, the fewer PalmOS devices there would be to play it on... we have people here who play on B/W PalmOS devices... make the bike super complex and the games speed and playability drops to the point of absurdity.
    HA! alright i'm back now MunkYBoY
    one other question, is there someway i can get my best recordings, that are already uploaded, on my palm pilot?
    ~nick~111's game on Me vs. The Gravity ~nick~111
    im a retard
    ~nick~111's game on Purple Palace ~nick~111
    vote for this its amzing :0)
    Ando's game on You Qi Ando
    First Medal. Hell Yeah.
    DavidKing's game on Die or Die! DavidKing
    DavidKing's game on Die or Die! Gus
    Do you take Vin's route, Kristophers route or Kristophers old route? Or no secrets revealed yet?
    Albert-13's game on Vanilla Sky Albert-13
    mm..
    DavidKing's game on Die or Die! DavidKing
    no new route, no secret.
    Vin's game on Die or Die! MunkYBoY
    i could have told you guys that but it wouldn't upload my game, it was fast too =(
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Nik
    really nice. there was a time when i was first, but that's years ago
    HA! alright i'm back now Kristopher
    You can't download your PDBs from this site, but if you still have them on your computer, you can open them with the Palm QuickInstall tool to save them to your Palm.
    mike flips's game on Teapot mike flips
    dont complain alex i was silver until u and gus took me out

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    Oliver's game on Underground mike flips
    sweeeeeeeeeeeet run man
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    Got my vote as well, awesome game
    mike flips's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    inspired by vin
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    This is for you oliver cuz u love people beating u on this level
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    ill open this in a bit, i wanna keep my only standard pack medal for at least a week.... but its just like prayers just a bit faster
    _alex_'s game on Sqare _alex_
    and alex shaves of another .2
    Hank Chill Time Trial _alex_
    wat is this!!!! no1 opens but lee cmon people!!!!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Report a bug Justy
    Lower Resolution
    Hey my friend was playing BOD on his Treo 650 and I noticed his resolution was way better on my zire 72 the man is all boxy and the reslolution isn't good. He had to hard rest his 650 and he wanted my to send hin BOD so I did then when he played it on his 650 the res was bad too. Do I have a bad version? I got the latest version on the site but it din't work. Mabye I am installing i wrong(I used Palm Quick install) could someone please help? Thanks
    Lower Resolution Justy
    sorry his res was way better than my palms not on it
    Lower Resolution nbcl
    Are you using a different version of BoD? I had no idea there was a hi-res option at all but on downloading the latest version it automatically loads in hi-res.
    rachman!'s game on Pipe Universe the_hintern
    arschloch
    mike flips's game on Double Sprint Vega
    What did Vin say to you that inspired you?
    Lower Resolution Kristopher
    Both Palms have Hi-res options, which you can change in the Options.
    Vega's game on Underground mike flips
    Congrats man u took it back im scared of how many times u had to play it to get it back tho lol
    Vega's game on Underground Gus
    You rule this lvl!
    Lower Resolution Justy
    In the BOD options or the Palms? I don't know where to find the low/ high res options
    Lower Resolution Kristopher
    Bike or Die has many options. Use the menu.
    Lower Resolution Justy
    I looked in the BOD menu but I don't see any resolution option. :
    Vega's game on Underground Vega

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    Spike Mountain Time Trial DavidKing
    my best beginning and best end combined probly highish 35
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Head first back tire finish!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Double flip bounce!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Upsidedown back tire first!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Fastest time not going straight to the flag!
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Crazy back flip upsidedown front tire finish!
    Vega's game on Underground DavidKing
    It is really crazy, but prove that your strength is really good.
    Vin's game on Die or Die! Lee
    That first leap to the wall.... I can't do it no matter how hard I try. Gtrat start!
    PrayeR's game on Golden Gate the_hintern
    scheiß spiel
    PrayeR's game on Golden Gate the_hintern
    &#9786;hehe
    mike flips's game on Cactus mike flips
    6 seconds club
    Lower Resolution Kristopher
    Well, keep looking. It is in Options>Display if you have a high-res(+) display (although a few Sony Clies cannot use the high-res option).
    _alex_'s game on Cactus _alex_
    u 6.xx s open ur games its ben ages now
    Newbie Pack _alex_
    shelf's ben taken off?
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    That is probably the hardest thing to do.
    Kristopher's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    This wheelie has potential.
    Kristopher's game on Grand Canyon Kristopher
    Here's a good freestyle.
    Kristopher's game on Downhill Madness Kristopher
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Kristopher
    Golds on both Konecniks.
    Vin's game on The Well Kristopher
    Ha ha. I beat you.

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    Kristopher's game on The Well Kristopher
    Finally, a medal in the Standard Levels.
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Thanks, Nik. P.S. I just medalled Konecnik and The Well.
    Vega's game on Underground mike flips
    you get faster every day
    Red and Gold Goldpump56
    Hey, this is my first levelpack; I hope you enjoy it. I'm a newbie here, although I'm sure you can already tell. Please comment and tell me what you think of it: if it's too easy or what. Thanks!
    -Goldpump56
    mike flips's game on Cactus mike flips
    stop PMing me people ill show when i want to
    mike flips's game on Cablecar mike flips
    btw i no this is 2 months later but i never spoke to louis about this level so i dont no what he is on lol
    Up, Down, or Around Goldpump56
    This was, as the order suggests, the first real level I created. Pretty boring and generic, I guess. The colors were randomized. Three exits, two possible ones. The curves aren't very advanced, as I was just getting used to Bike or Design. For this pack, I chose not to use any Checkpoints or Pics. Pure and simple: Race to the finish. This is the only level in the pack that has multiple finishes.
    Onion Ring Goldpump56
    Quite obviously named for the onion-shaped part running into the ring-shaped part. It was funny to see some of the ways my friends (with little BOD experience) tried to beat this level.
    Skyrider Goldpump56
    Originally a playground to test out that riding method where the wheels are separated...That was when I first discovered it.
    Gollum's Prize Goldpump56
    This level was inspired by Level 18 of Dieter's Levels.
    Confuse Goldpump56
    Pretty self-explanatory. The level name references the name of a spell in Runescape, a popular MMORPG.
    Nightfall Goldpump56
    You can make out the level plan on the level page. Darn it.
    Defy Physics or Die! Goldpump56
    Short and sweet. LOL, love the map on the level page.
    Big Hill :Challenge Goldpump56
    TBC...
    A Simple Box Goldpump56
    Don't be deceived by it's simplicity...Okay, so it's easier than I would have liked; it seemed more difficult at the time. I guess my playing has improved.
    Animutated Elephant Goldpump56
    I thought I had a good concept on what Animutation was about. Boy, was I wrong.
    Stairway to Heaven Goldpump56
    I made this level based on the song, even though I hadn't really heard it before. I thought it would make a cool idea for a level.
    Road to Perdition Goldpump56
    Based on the level "Stairway to Heaven". I had a bit of fun with it. This name was no mistake, either.
    Ubiright Goldpump56
    Unlike the previous two levels, I designed this one *before* naming it.
    Happy End! Goldpump56
    Probably the hardest level in the pack. ("Happy End? What the hell is a Happy End?"

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    Happy End! Goldpump56
    Probably the hardest level in the pack. ("Happy End? What the hell is a Happy End?"
    Happy End! Goldpump56
    Probably the hardest level in the pack. ("Happy End? What the hell is a Happy End?" )
    Red and Gold Kristopher
    It's great that you are making more levels, but there is a much bigger audience for levels at Palmgear. My levelpack has been downloaded about 1,000 times from there.
    Happy End! _alex_
    demented cartoon movie ^^
    albino black sheep
    Kristopher's game on The Well mike flips
    sweet run i dont think anything will get much faster then this
    BikeOrDie - Just Forget MindfreaK
    How do yo finish the "You are screwed level?
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i dont no when the next pack will come out for time trial but what do you guys think is the best number of levels to have in a pack
    BikeOrDie - Pilot Player Goldpump56
    Hmm...Kind of short for a levelpack...
    B.O.D. - YouQi Levels Goldpump56
    OMG I hate this levelpack. LOL. I'm still on level 2, although I've hopelessly failed at *other* levels through Bike or Design. Yeah...I haven't beaten level 1; it just sounds better to say I'm on level 2. The levelpack is generally irritating to me. I Despise It!!! Nice work, You Qi.
    IZodiac: The Lost Levels Goldpump56
    I think it's kind of bold of you to call the pack "The Lost Levels", when there are only four of them, none of which bear any resemblance to any of the Standard levels. Unless the name refers to your levelpacks, in which case, please accept my complete apologies.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    When most people get a gold medal, they stop playing that level.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Ah yes but I'm sort of bonkers you see.....can't stand it if I see a faster way. This new time is only a result of accurately applied logic
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Yes, I am sure. Level 7 will be very easy for you.
    Lee's game on Hank Chill Smalls
    Thanks for showing Lee!
    DavidKing's game on Jumping Trial DavidKing
    mike flips's game on Malysz mike flips
    INSANE PHYSICS
    mike flips's game on Malysz mike flips
    Vega whats the verdict?
    mike flips's game on Malysz Vega
    some of those tricks are pretty sweet....it's kinda fun just messing around and seeing what you can do with certain levels eh?
    mike flips's game on Malysz mike flips
    ye it is pretty fun

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    mike flips's game on Downhill Madness mike flips
    this is looking very bottley
    Vega's game on Underground Vega
    Tricks & alternate endings for those interested!

    *http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=45533-Front Flip
    *http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=56373-Full Course Record
    *http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=57680-Back Tire First
    *http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=57682-Crazy Back Flip!
    *http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=57678-Double Flip Bounce
    mike flips's game on Cablecar mike flips
    oh and he definately isnt my girlfriend
    Smalls's game on U Jump Smalls
    Sorry for not showing, I figured out a little trick that can save me about a half a second, so I will try to beat it better later.
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    I like this one better, Mike Flips. (But it's not my best)
    Smalls's game on Downhill Madness stu
    Yeah... got my vote. Good work!
    mike flips's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    nothing lol just copied his game
    Kristopher's game on Malysz mike flips
    pretty cool i must admit.. if we combine our games we'd win Freestyle for shure
    Newbie Pack mike flips
    is shelf off or no? cuz im rank 72
    Pazos's game on Hill mike flips
    show show show
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    Mike Flips, look at this start. For my Freestyle, I want to go up and hang like I did here, then keep hanging and come down the other side, and complete the level.
    Kristopher's game on U Jump Kristopher
    Fun route.
    Kristopher's game on Malysz mike flips
    the beginning is sweet, true freestyle.... do u think that ull be able to come back down on the other side if u try and hang across the whole level?
    Kristopher's game on U Jump mike flips
    nice control man
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    If I keep going while hanging, I fall down quite soon. I'll try it again... P.S. I just submitted more levels to Palmgear.
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Bike or Die Chatroom
    I made a free chat room at network54.com for Bike or Die. You can use the chat without signing up or downloading a chat program.

    http://www.network54.com/Chat/123571
    BikeOrDie Score Counter Kristopher
    I finally got around to trying it.
    It looks at your online games, apparently.
    Notice the 1769 in the link to my profile? That is the Player ID. It finds out how you are ranked in each level and tells you your score (Although the scores here at this site are subtracted instead of added). Based upon the user ID number you enter, it also fills in the name text-field.
    Great!
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Four zeros in your time.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    think ull get 19.xx?

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    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    The longest levelpack ever:
    http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&PartnerREF=&siteid=1&prodid=123897

    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    now we at least know that 19.xx is possible!
    IZodiac: The Lost Levels IZodiac
    they were actually named IZodiac: The lost levels
    but sz got rid of "IZodiac"

    They were actually levels that I ended up taking out of "The Best" hence they were kind of lost... so I put them into a sucky level pack.
    A Mix Gus
    Serious glitch on this lvl my records 9:46! What about everyone else?
    IZodiac: The Lost Levels Vega
    IZodiac - you don't need to explain yourself here....I think it's kind of bold of Mr Goldpumper Mario from 1956 to make that comment in the first place. Some people just like to instigate stuff....
    IZodiac: The Lost Levels Kristopher
    And he only found them because he was lost in the same place.
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    Big Jump!
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Kristopher
    I need to make that landing for my Freestyle.
    Kristopher's game on Malysz mike flips
    sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet u gotta land this
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    6th place here i come
    Kristopher's game on Malysz Vega
    that's an awesome jump!
    Tabs's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    I'm sad to see me first Gold medal taken, but I did take yours in Konecnik, and I think I can win this back.
    The Extreme Files Kristopher
    Here is the longest levelpack ever, with over 100 levels! I think many of these would be nice in the Time Trial, although some are a bit short.
    Btw, would it be wierd if the Time Trial had 300 levels, instead of just 100?
    Preview: Crazy Files Kristopher
    This will appear in my next levelpack, which will have anoth 50 levels.
    Underwater Kristopher
    Shark Fin Kristopher
    Time Trial?
    Arm Kristopher
    Time Trial?
    Siamese Y's Kristopher
    This is fun! We should have a competition.
    The Payoff Kristopher
    This has fun physics, but I wonder how many people will ever play it.
    The Payoff mike flips
    it doesnt even look beatable lol

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    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Gus
    You need to edit your comment! Only 1 now!
    Lower Resolution Justy
    ALrght in Display options there are Black&White/Color, Full Screen, Rotated(landscape, Terrain(Outline,Solid,Textured),Full Detail(which is checked),Bike color, and effects(particles/gore). I have full detail checked and I am operating on a palmOne Zire 72 but it is still all boxy(newest version is being used)
    Lower Resolution Kristopher
    The full detail option is for the pictures, such as the tree. You need the hi-res option, and if it's not there, you may have install the wrong program from the ZIP you downloaded. Delete and try again.
    Lower Resolution Justy
    when I installed I just dragged the whole thing into quick install so whick one do I install?
    thanks by the way
    Lower Resolution Justy
    Oh ok I figured it out now thanks alot Kristopher
    Lower Resolution Kristopher
    Each of the different versions (hi-res, grayscale) has the same creator-ID, so it will only recognize one of those programs, and it probably saw the wrong one.
    Jayce's game on Zip-Zap mike flips
    i know this was ur first medal which is why it was so hard for me to take it from you

    But on the bright side, ur now the best player in the world with no medal
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    HOLY SHIT WHO THE HELL IS CIRENCO AND WHERE DID HE COME FROM
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    excuse my swearing
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    HE CRUSHED SO MANY RECORDS, check out cave dweller
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue mike flips
    holy crap u are the best
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    Vega, u better watch out lol
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D)
    It took all day, but I used my programming to put all of the messages from this entire site into ONE web page! Now you can search the forum! The page also has a list of the people who posted the most. (I am surprised, PrayeR has posted more than I have ) And it's only 2MB (plus images)!

    300 pages in one:
    http://freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/bikeforum.html

    Like the new format and color scheme?

    Btw, how do you use http://bike.toyspring.com/smiley/3.gif ?
    Cirenco's game on Street Gus
    Sorry to say alex has a 40.36 game from ages ago.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Mountains ~nick~111
    man u are insane!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!
    how can u do that btw a pretty impressive run
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    DK you wanted a challenger... you have one!!!!
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    And no offense to you DK but I think that you'll have a hard time fighting him off!
    Cirenco's game on Fruits Gus
    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue ~nick~111
    holy shit thats insane i cant believe.......... u ....... omg this is increadible ....... u will definetly beat david king if u continue
    Hellraider Time Trial ~nick~111
    27,66 sucks man so just leave it

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    mike flips's game on Sawtooth Gus
    When's the opening of this game????
    DavidKing's game on Triangles ~nick~111
    i know im not a pro player like u prayer or david and ofcoured u tabs. ive been watching u compete in this game for ages and if im not mistaking then i think u should work to gether to get this cirenco out of the way or he will very fast have taken away all of your medals jsut a hint
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Cirenco
    Gracias por sus comentarios. Lo primero , no hablo nada de inglés así que trataré en lo posible de enterderlos, además creo que es bueno que se incorporen comentarios en español. Definitivamnete éste no es uno de mis mejores niveles. Para darle un poco de dinamismo al juego he decidido publicar sólo algunos, los otros los hiré revelando de a poco. Más que obsecionarme con el hecho de batir a David King , me gusta bajar y bajar los tiempos de un juego así que por ahora dedicaré mis esfuerzos a obtener medallas. Saludos a todos.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Mountains Cirenco
    El truco está en el comienzo y final del gran salto. Debes tratar de entrar con la mayor velocidad posible y al final debes frenar. Gracias Vega por publicar el video.
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    Hey man, now im scared to open this game ... lol
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue mike flips
    CIRENCO TRANSLATION FOR THOSE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND (quick summary)

    Thanx for your comments. I dont speak English so Im posting in Spanish and i hope others will too because that would be nice. Im not going to show all my games, only some. Of course i want to beat DK but for now im going to focus on getting medals. Hello to everyone.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    IM SO MAD!!!

    I work my butt off for a few days in hopes of passing YOU QI, i am 4 points behind and i get a time on Spiral that moves me up 10 points. I then go to submit and im still in 6th. So im like wtf and i notice i did pass YOU QI but i didnt move up. Then all of a sudden i notice this Black display pic and i see CIRENCO. then i was really sad cuz i wanted 5th place
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Cirenco
    Mike flips hago una aclaración, sí tengo las intenciones de mostrar TODOS los videos, pero quiero aportar a éste juego así que por eso decidí mostrarlos de a poco para hacer más entretenido el asunto. Nos vemos.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Last nite, my Palm died for the first time ever, its charge has never hit Zero before. I thot charging it overnite would help and when i woke up today it was still ZERO. What else happened last nite... i think its a sign!!! or not
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    Get all the medals you want but leave foothill half circle alone!!!! Oh ye thanks for opening this beause I just got a 31 using this trick!
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    One more thing; this could be a sweet freestyle!
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    And a third thing (sry for the triple post)this looks like a rachman! style trick! What do the rest of you think?
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    I can still play while its in the cradle

    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    It's possible, but he must have anoth trick. Although, with all of those secret games, maybe he is a hacker?
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) Kristopher
    The programs I used to make the forum are posted here, although you will need two different compilers to run them.

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/500434/message/1152396295/The+code+used+to+make+the+Big+Bike+or+Die%21+Forum
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Cirenco
    Hacker?jajaja
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Welcome, Cirenco. Too bad, I am no longer in the top ten.
    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe Cirenco
    Que opinan de la última parte de éste juego. Creo que se puede seguir bajando y es más fácil que el otro método(por lo menos para mi)
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Looks like Cirenco didn't have trouble beating Tabs. Now it would take the U.S. and Thailand together to be #1!
    Medals by Country Cirenco
    Y cuál es la gracia de eso Kristopher. la idea es mejorar el juego, ser n 1 no me importa mucho , prefiero deleitarme jugando un buen juego,

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    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    Good.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    We need more players like you, Cirenco.
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    Hacker or not, I am amazed at this time and would like to know your route.
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Oliver
    with the way this guy has played, he'll sure to beat everyone...
    he has done so many difficult tricks...good job!!!
    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe Oliver
    amazing!!!
    very good control
    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe mike flips
    WOW
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    as soon as he beats some times like riding school part 2, he will be 2nd ... and on a quick pace towards 1st
    mike flips's game on Way Up There mike flips
    i would beat my time but 50.00 is such a pretty number
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Cirenco
    Gracias Oliver.Ojalá juegues más seguido porque me gusta tu estilo.
    Ideas mike flips
    Ranking Spreadsheet
    Using what has already been programmed to display the rankings of people in each level, make a program that puts your own rankings into some sort of spreadsheet downloadable to the palm so that you can look up your ranking on any level on the go. it doesnt have to include all the names of everyone, just the level name and your rank number.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    And I thought Vin had it perfected.
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    VEGA, watch out im gonna get this one day
    Cirenco's game on Vertical Avenue Vega
    Kinda makes you wonder just a little if Cirenco is Rachman resurrected from the dead Maybe the whole Spanish only thing is Rachman's disguise... hee hee.
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Mike Flips - Watch Out! I got this a long time ago and can do it again with ease now!!!!!
    Time Trial Champions Vega
    Well Cirenco...I would say without a doubt you have made the most grandios and impressive entrance into the BOD Hall of Fame ever! Your game play is stellar and I imagine it will only improve very quickly from here. Welcome and Congratulations
    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    i cant get it im always so close
    mike flips's game on Fruits mike flips
    couple crazy flips at beginning and end, and still fast time
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    Gracias Vega , ojalá sigas jugando en otros niveles ya que tus tiempos son impresionantes y muy bien ejecutados.
    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe Vega
    Very nice....just when it looks like you messed up, you pull off another crazy stunt. Incredible!
    Vin's game on Vertical Avenue Vin
    opend

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    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    i just played it all day, i cant get the landing after jumping the gap, i always slow down to much
    PMD's game on The Well PMD
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    If Cirenco is not rachman!, Then I think that his achievement may exceed rachman!, Though rachman! is my idol, as for me, is insignificant, Welcome Cirenco.
    Cirenco's game on Pipe Universe Gus
    the freestyle theme on this lvl seems to be ach on to something and bounce back! Great control!
    PMD's game on The Well Kristopher
    Good game. I hope I can beat it.
    The Payoff Kristopher
    The wierd physics make the bike go faster than it should, so it is possible. Has anyone tried it yet?
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    How would this be any better than what we already have? You would still have to download it, but you can already download your user profile page and save view it on the Palm. Do you just want the scores for all of the levelpacks on a single page, or do you also want all of the players on a single page?
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    Hola DavidKing. Mis buenos tiempos creo que se deben al hecho de tratar de buscar nuevas rutas, además creo que hay ciertos conceptos que estoy casi seguro que tú ya estás aplicando porque tenemos tiempos similares (Spike Cave, Jmping Trial). O me equivoco?. Me gustaría mostrar todos mis videos , lo haré más adelante aunque pierda las medallas , y ojalá tú u otros también lo hagan.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    Este es uno de mis juegos favoritos porque me mantiene presionado todo el trayecto .He estado a punto de hacer 24 , más adelante lo mostraré y alguien que lo ejecute bien podría llegar a 23 inclusive. No creo en la perfección.
    The Payoff mike flips
    I shall try it right now just for u
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    I mean like something we can download that has a list of every level and our current ranking on it. so for example if i go away, before i leave i download the list and then i can find out which levels are my lowest rankings and improve them while im away
    mike flips's game on Watch your head mike flips
    cirenco theres no way under 25 is possible unless u do something really crazy, such as in the middle layer, ride upside down on the top of the hump so there is no slowing down over the hump
    The Payoff mike flips
    holy crap its level 100 in the pack!!! this is gonna take a while...
    The Payoff mike flips
    ( i bike or designed the level )

    WOW THE PHYSICS ARE INSANE, lol the bike randomly speeds up and falls through the floor.. my fastest time is 16.18
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    what did rachman ever do that was so good?
    Cirenco's game on Catapult Gus
    I would like to see this one...
    Cirenco's game on Catapult Cirenco
    Debo reconocer que el truco acá fué un accidente . Lamentablemente la última parte no es muy buena así que si lo publico creo que me superan rápidamente.Más adelante lo haré si consigo bajarlo para cuidar un poco el primer lugar en el medallero.
    mike flips's game on Watch your head Cirenco

    Es posible , pero es difícil ejecutarlo. Tengo un intento fallido por 24,8 en el cual fallé justo antes de la bandera por ir muy rápido( Lo mostraré también).
    The Payoff Kristopher
    The physics are so weird because each piece of money has many vertices. In fact, this level came so close to the 1,000 vertice limit that I could not add any more money. To bad you couldn't play all 100 levels.
    Cirenco's game on Catapult Kristopher
    I don't think there is much of a secret here- just some good playing.

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    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    Okay, I could make one of those. But until I do, you can just go to your profile and save the page for each of the Time Trial levelpacks.
    Vin's game on Watch your head Vin
    opened comment
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Rachman! developed many of the routes for this game, including Malysz and Pipe Universe, I think.
    The Payoff Kristopher
    I got 15:50!
    Vin's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    It's a great time, but it's not perfect. I think the hardest/most important part is at the top.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head mike flips
    After watching Vin's game, i see where i can improve 2 seconds... maybe ill take gold
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    Too much work lol
    The Payoff mike flips
    lol nice time
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Meh, i think a lot of the things he did were kinda obvious, its only natural for those aiming for good times to discover new tricks, i found a lot of things i thot would get me a gold in certain levels only to see they had already been done before like the flipping at the beginning of konecxic down or even the trick in vertical limit... i think he was just one of the first players ever so it looked amazing because no one had ever had time to do it...
    Cirenco's game on Fly! Kristopher
    Someone stopped Alex-and-friends!
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    overshot it
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    too far again
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    so close
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    i finally got past the 2nd last hump and was so nervous i failed
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    :'(:'( WHY ME??!!??
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    VEGA watch this!!!

    by landing on the back wheel of the bike holding the brakes, you can thrust forwards after the landing, ive landing directly on the mine once but forgot to save... if this works, 27xx is possible!

    What does everyone think?
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue PMD
    Opened now that the secret is out. Pretty near a perfect run for Cirenco. His is very near my exact run. Amazing since I have never shown this one. Now that I see Vin's run, I can see some definite room for improvement. In the spirit of Open Source, here are a few of my earlier success', some of which may have faster sections:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=43519
    Not a fast time, but a different method.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=40093
    One of my earliest tire hooks.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=39374
    One of my earliest discoveries of a better way. Not the fastest though.

    Oliver, I want you see how you do this one.

    It was nice having the gold for a while. I may have to try to get it back.



    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains PMD
    I wondered the same thing with this similar, but not the same method a few months ago.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=51307

    The beauty of SZ's built-in levels, is that he put in a number of possible, but very difficult, routes that are discovered even years after the levels came out. You can see from the level that some of these things were meant to be possible. It is just up to us to figure them out. This is one of the most difficult shortcuts I have seen yet. There may be a trick to make it easier, but I haven't found it yet. Here is what I thought would be the first successful finish using this shortcut back in March. I got the shortcut, just not the outcome I wanted.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=50380

    I think I have played this level 8000+ times.
    PMD's game on The Well PMD
    I used a new route! It took tons of practice. I could not beat your score using the same route you used (and I tried hard too), so good work on that. I had to find another way (like I did on Vertical Avenue where I could not do the route others were using very well). Good luck.
    Cirenco's game on Catapult Gus
    I have no douubts that this is a straight lvl but I thought that about vertical avenue as well. I hav an interest in this lvl as it was me that got alex his time here and I unintentionally saved it as him.

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    Cirenco's game on Fly! Gus
    jon and alex both have 16:xx they have not submitted as we for the most part have given up BoD
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Gus
    Bouncey bouncey...
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Cirenco
    Excelente , sospechaba que era similar . La diferencia está en las escaleras.
    Cirenco's game on Catapult Cirenco
    Es sútil pero me sirve para marcar la diferencia. Trato de llegar a 35 antes de publicarlo para cuidar un poco la medalla.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    Eso tengo que verlo
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    Oh course it will be even harder for me, since I will need to download about 20,000 web pages and then process them all!
    Do you want a text file, or a web page?
    PMD's game on The Well Kristopher
    Interesting, because my route could probably get this time. It probably used more hanging; I will have to try it.
    Newbie Pack Kristopher
    This levelpack finally has more players than You Qi Levels.
    Cirenco's game on Fly! Kristopher
    Then why are you still here?
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Kristopher
    -> He put in a number of possible, but very difficult, routes that are discovered.

    But in the Newbie Pack, they were found fast and labeled "bugs."

    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    He was also one of the three long-time Time Trial Champions. Btw, I come up with all the flipping in Konecnik Down.
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    Text would be better as not everyone has access to the web on their palms
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    Lol very tru
    News Sz
    2 Years On Bike!
    Yesterday was the second anniversary. I have prepared the traditional ranking chart
    This time it begins where the previous one ends (the picture would be too big in a single piece).
    Enjoy! Part 1 (2004-2005) and Part 2 (2005-2006)

    I'm also working on a number of new features for the site and the game itself, stay tuned!
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I'm using this to download one player every six seconds.


    'ITECHMISCBIKERCGETRC
    'Bike or Die Player Pages Downloader! Version 1.0
    '(C) 2006 i-TECH and Kristopher Windsor

    CONST playercount = 3000: CHDIR "C:ITECHMISCBIKERC"
    ON ERROR GOTO resumenext: MKDIR "PAGES": OPEN "propgress.txt" FOR INPUT AS #1: INPUT #1, progress: CLOSE #1: ON ERROR GOTO 0
    ON KEY(31) GOSUB quickexit: KEY(31) ON

    SCREEN 0: WIDTH 80, 25: CLS
    FOR a = progress + 1 TO playercount
    LOCATE 3, 5: PRINT "Getting data for player" + STR$(a) + "..."
    OPEN "TEMP.BAT" FOR OUTPUT AS #1
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "a.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=1"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "b.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=2"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "c.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=3"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "d.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=4"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "e.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=5"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "f.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=49"
    PRINT #1, "CMD /C START wget -O PAGES" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "g.htm -o tmp.tmp http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=" + LTRIM$(STR$(a)) + "^&op=71"
    CLOSE #1
    SHELL "TEMP.BAT": SLEEP 6
    OPEN "progress.txt" FOR OUTPUT AS #1: PRINT #1, a: CLOSE #1
    NEXT a

    quickexit:
    SYSTEM

    resumenext:
    RESUME NEXT

    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) Sz
    : - [ ----->
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) Kristopher
    Thanks!

    " Windows Vista is two years late "
    2 Years On Bike! mike flips
    I like the chart cuz im in it this time

    when is the next level pack going to come out because i shall submit mine before that
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    Looks good
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) mike flips

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    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    Well, as of this afternoon i officially did this trick however, i got a crappy ending and it would only put me at rank 17 so im gonna hold off on submitting...
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    I have a feeling Cirenco is going to submit a hole load of good times again and im gonna lose some medals
    Kristopher's game on Cave Dweller mike flips
    THANX FOR OPENING
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller mike flips
    Kristopher, its most likely ur route just faster, u had a lotta room for improvement
    Smalls's game on The Right Way Smalls
    Here's my contribution Tabs
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    16 seconds faster??
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    when all the planets aline with the sun and you bounce over the last mine let me know. Until then, I think I'll just let you try it and drive yourself crazy....
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I fixed the typo in propgress.txt", and I found out it can actually download a player every two or three seconds, but it will still take a few hours on Dial-Up.
    2 Years On Bike! Kristopher
    It's a very nice chart!
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Vega
    I have personally never played this level....but a very obvious truth of this game is that the longer the level takes to complete, the more cushion there is to improve upon a seemingly unbeatable gold. This is exactly what happened with 'Die or Die'. Not to take anything away from these runs because they are awesome, but I would bet that 1:40 to 1:50 is possible if someone completes it with pinpoint accuracy and speed. It might take them many attempts, but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone smash the 2 minute mark on this level!
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller mike flips
    i was experimenting today a bit with this level and found a lot of new routes and if everything is accurate 2:00 is possible... the coolest one i found is at the top right, go from bottom to top and instead of going back right, angle the bike to fly under the spike on the left side and land, then since you dont have enuf speed to get on the middle rail, cable car the whole middle rail and brake at the end so it flings you up past the first jump... i no all this is confusing but using bike or design, i beat the level in sections and added up i got 2:00 i just havent put it all together yet
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    got it again but a bit slower
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    AND AGAIN AND LOTS FASTER but still only 9th
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    yea.. i dont think thats gonna happen but i tried
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains Gus
    PMD your comment is very astute; these levels appear straight but the number of tricks that can be done and fit nicely into the design of the level indicates that it was deliberately done. It is also the fat that there are multiple combinations of tricks in a level rather than just one that allows knew medals to be one and time 'barriers' to be broken.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Vega
    Yeah that's why I waited to submit this 30.68. I had landed this trick and finished the level successfully 28 times ranging from 31.30 to 34.20 and then I nailed the 30.xx. I think 29.xx is possible but it would take a buttery smooth game from start to finish.
    Cirenco's game on Cave Dweller Cirenco
    Esa es mi ruta pero la ejecución más rápida. Sólo hay que tratar de no quedarse con lo establecido. Pienso que se puede llegar a 1:50 pero por ahora no lo voy a intentar.
    Cirenco's game on Fruits Cirenco
    Abierto
    Cirenco's game on Fruits Cirenco
    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    INSANE!!!

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    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    28 times you say.... no wonder i only did it 5 so far
    Cirenco's game on Fruits DavidKing
    very good, in fact, this still has improved space, this trick is easy, I have only spent 10 minutes get 16, But my time will be defeated soon, anyway, you are really amazing.
    As you say "try to look for new routes" is the key to get good time.
    Vin's game on Cave Dweller Vin
    opened, different topright than kris much easier and a bit faster.
    Cirenco's game on Fruits Gus
    How the hell is anyone meant to think of this kind of stunt?!?!
    DavidKing's game on Fruits Cirenco
    Me gustaría verlo , 14 es absolutamente posible .
    Vega's game on Riding School Coach Chris
    I can never get that stretch you do at the top down pat. Way to go!
    DavidKing's game on Fruits Gus
    Yes 14 does seem plausible with that stretchy flip. But it takes a considerable amount of skill to pull off!
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    u guys probably notised but ive given up on BOD as vin sed,
    to time consuming just got bak from spain to find a new player in third,
    well done cirenco ^^
    keep going if ur gonna over take me do the job propoly and come first!
    (no offense d.k) ur just to good and i would like to c how things turn out
    c'ya guys ^^
    DavidKing's game on Fruits DavidKing
    opened
    DavidKing's game on Fruits DavidKing
    15 is very easy, but 14 I think it very difficult, I do not want to try now.
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    In fact, I really feel very tired, especially leaving successively of a lot of people, I hope that Cirenco can become the real first.
    2 Years On Bike! Lee
    I can feel a "how come I get to be Mr Pink?" come out in this. such a sucky colour, I feel emasculated
    2 Years On Bike! Lee
    I still feel like this is one of those - "CHECK OUT MY PALM" kind of games that should almost come bundled with your new Palm.

    Have you contacted Palm to see if they are interested in bundling it with the New Treos? - I imagine you would take a bit of a major hit on the price, but this would be a blast with the whole palm community into it - especially synching straight from their phone-ready pdas.....

    If only they could play the flash animation in some way to experience the web-site on-line too, then Palm would dive at it, I recon.
    PORTING to Nintendo DS ~nick~111
    i might not be the best player im still quite new but i think i agree wit doctor ded cause the nintendo company might just like this game and ofcoures some money will go into your pocket with which u could then improve BOD!!!!!!
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth ~nick~111
    nice game not bad tactik even if a bit of copying from other players
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth ~nick~111
    lol still a good game though
    Total Race Sz
    Scoring is based on the total time needed to complete all levels.
    Golden Club Sz
    Scoring: Each day you own a gold medal gives you one point.
    News Sz
    Total Race, Golden Club and more!
    The Hall of Fame database was reorganized, this allows me to add more sophisticated rankings, like  Total Race and  Golden Club.
    Ranking history is now much easier to extract so I have placed it in the profile. And you can proudly display your BoD achievements on the web using the new image button (bike.toyspring.com/plbutton.php?p=XXXX) like this:
    2 Years On Bike! Sz
    as for the new levelpack... i'd like to release v1.4 soon with two new features extending the level design:
  • possibility to define the number of required red flags (adds more combinations of where the player must go to complete the level)
  • mark some surfaces as "slippery" (as proposed here  Level based ground friction?, except that we can mix normal and modified friction in a single level)
    it would be nice to add the new levelpack with these additions... unless you prefer to have one new official pack now (eg  my idea for a new time trial pack) and another one with new features later

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    Total Race PMD
    Hey SZ, I like the new rankings. Is there an easy way to see which levels haven't been completed? I like the breakdown I get on the Standard Levels with Ranking for each level, but the other packs don't have that easy way to see where you are and which levels you haven't completed.
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth Shepsidude
    lol its really good
    2 Years On Bike! Kristopher
    The new Bike or Die! features will dominate the next few levelpacks, so I would like just one more standard levelpack.
    And it is a good idea to have slippery and nonslippery together. Will the slippery ground be a different color?
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Kristopher
    The new image button is really nice. I need to edit my signature at five different forums now...
    Bálint's game on Bike Impossible ~nick~111
    balint show us the game so we can give u some competion =P
    Oliver's game on Bike O'Clock ~nick~111
    oliver, and gus im sry to say but there is a better beginning and with your skill u could get a 10.1X
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    If You Want to Edit the Standard Levels
    Since I made the Standard Revisted, a few people have wondered if they could edit the standard levels, too, or use Bike or Design with them to practice parts of a Built-in Level. Now you can!

    http://www.freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/built-in_levels.pdb
    Golden Club Kristopher
    This is what PrayeR always wanted, and I see why. It shows the real champions, including the ones who have played for a long time, and the original players, not just the people who have come recently. It also is a good way to rank the players who haven't played all of the levels (usually because they left before a levelpack came out). I also see why David King declared Rachman! the real champion; he is not far from PrayeR.
    Total Race Kristopher
    PMD, you probably didn't realize the folder icons and the names of the levelpacks next to them go to two different URLs. You can already go to
    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=1834&op=4
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ~nick~111
    zodiac u just scared because of that we would give u some competion why dont u dight like a man for your medal instead of hiding behind a wall
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ~nick~111
    dight=fight
    Tabs's game on Cactus ~nick~111
    please guys open you game you are nearly a hole second infront of us
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Kristopher
    One thing I noticed is that not everyone wants a good ranking in the Hall of Fame. Some want medals, some want to master a certain levelpack, and now some will want to master Total Race and Golden Club. I hope people still see the Time Trial as the main competitive ranking, because it doesn't make being the Time Trial Champion as fun when Tabs, Oliver, etc., won't even try.
    Tabs's game on Cactus Kristopher
    Stop asking.
    jonas's game on Snowstorm ~nick~111
    da hatest du aber viele glueks bringer wo du dieses lvl gespielt hast =P
    Total Race PMD
    You are right. I didn't realize that. Thanks.
    Smalls's game on Me vs. The Gravity Smalls
    I'll join the club D.K.
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Cirenco
    Excelente! Muy buen trabajo creo que la incorporación del tiempo (Total Race) mejorará el juego sin duda buscando siempre seguir bajando los tiempos y no conformarse con el oro. Y el Golden Club es un reconocimiento a los grandes jugadores que ya no están.
    Cirenco's game on pumb.org Cirenco
    Total Race mike flips
    THIS IS SO COOL im 4

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    Golden Club mike flips
    This only shows good players who played since the game came out
    Golden Club mike flips
    i guess we shall have to wait for a bit and see who will shoot up in these rankings over the next couple months (cirenco) lol
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    i never opened how u no i copied?
    my idea for a new time trial pack mike flips
    I am making a really good level pack i will submit it in the next few days, it has lotsa challenging levels and all are good for time trial
    ~nick~111's game on Fly! mike flips
    show dont be hiding behind any walls
    mike flips's game on Cave Dweller mike flips
    New route at the top
    Total Race Dave
    I've completed all the levels but i'm not showing up in the total race score board??????????????
    Cirenco's game on pumb.org Gus
    Thx for opening it!
    mike flips's game on Cave Dweller Gus
    Curse your random trick in the top right! I wanted to dramatically suggest that as another possibility but you went and did it firtst! lol
    Louis's game on Hillz Gus
    Like that'll ever happen Tabs!
    Foothill Half Circle Time Trial Gus
    You know this is kinda dumb! Why do you all keep your games private when I'm beating you and leaving it open? Unless of course you all have a new trick that you wish to keep secret...
    I'd like to see how some others complete this level because ,believe it or not, I'm still tryin' to get better at it and I would therefor like any assistance that you would care to render me!
    Total Race Sz
    ooops, i made a mistake in the formula. the previous ranking was incorrect. well, now it is even more interesting with Cirenco as the leader
    thanks Dave!
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Cirenco
    Subí al primer lugar en total race pero al parecer no se me asignó la medalla? ( My gold SZ ) o me equivoco?. Pero independiente de eso creo que david king al mejorar en Cave Dweller me superará y hará la pelea interesante.
    2 Years On Bike! Cirenco
    Independiente de cual idea se prefiera (yo soy partidario de esperar un poco) se debe avisar el día y la hora porque esto tendrá un impacto inmediato en Golden Club.

    Day and hour to send our times
    Cirenco's game on Fly! ~nick~111
    look im a friend of alex gus and jon kenzo and i have missed cirencos time by 0.06 so u stop tellin about people which stop
    Cirenco's game on Fly! ~nick~111
    and btw chris if u cant do better ureself then shut up ok cause u are being irritating and u are not eve that good!
    Cirenco's game on Fly! Kristopher
    I didn't tell you to stop. I was noticing that your school lost its place as champion of this level. And the reason I asked Gus why he was still here is because if he cares about Bike or Die!, then maybe Alex does to and submit his latest games.
    Total Race mike flips
    i hate mistakes
    mike flips's game on Cave Dweller mike flips
    its cuz im genious
    Total Race Kristopher
    That is because Cirenco has a 45 second lead in Cave Dweller over David King.

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    Vin's game on Cave Dweller Kristopher
    It doesn't look faster. I'm not sure.
    Golden Club Kristopher
    This should encourage players to play the new levelpacks as they are released. Even if they can't keep a medal, they should like to for a few days.
    ~nick~111's game on Vertical Avenue ~nick~111
    THX cirenco for you little hint with the jump and the hang.

    sry PMD i just had to take it
    ~nick~111's game on Fly! ~nick~111
    your wish is my command mike flips
    ~nick~111's game on Equisplateral ~nick~111
    haha just a bit faster
    Cirenco's game on Fly! ~nick~111
    comon chris u just wanted to anoy us admit it now cause we all now im etiin better every day and some day ill take the gold from cirenco if he wants it or not
    Cirenco's game on Fly! Kristopher
    No I wasn't. In a few of these levels, Alex and his school are taking the majority of the Top 10 spots. I just thought it was funny that your school's domination doesn't mean you guys can keep the Gold.
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Kristopher
    The Ranking History chart makes the Player Profiles so big that you have to scroll down to see the end of the page. I think you could fix it by changing the tables a bit.
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    Hey people, i just realeased my level pack "MF Olympics" and you all should play it cuz the levels all rock and are challenging for everyone. Theyre perfect for the next hall of fame pack
    ~nick~111's game on Fly! mike flips
    thanx INSANE BRAKING!!
    MF Olympics Kristopher
    It's a great themed levelpack, but it is not to say these levels would be any better than the Extreme Files for the Time Trial. Could you pick one or two for the Time Trial?
    MF Olympics mike flips
    other then the fact that extreme = 102 levels, lol, i just felt that all these levels have the necessary challenge with lots of room for tricks and things like that to make for a great levelpack for competition... theres no bottle type levels and each one requires true skill to get the best time
    MF Olympics Kristopher
    Yes, but since we can pick the best levels from several levelpacks instead of using an entire levelpack, we wouldn't use all of these.
    MF Olympics mike flips
    maybe these are the best levels out of all the packs
    MF Olympics Kristopher
    That's what I thought about many levels in ThePack and The Extremee Files.
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth ~nick~111
    im back!!!!!!!!!
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth Gus
    Not bad nik...
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth Gus
    May as well open now as nick's beaten you
    ~nick~111's game on Equisplateral Gus
    Wow this looks even glitchier than usual! Looks fun!
    MF Olympics Cirenco
    good job!

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    ~nick~111's game on Equisplateral Cirenco
    Thank, muy fácil de ejecutar
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    Amazing Cirenco. I actually noticed my rank (15) today and realized it was rather slow and started playing this level all day today. I could not get any faster so i started looking for alternate routes. I did find one but it was nearly impossible to get... but i think u managed to get it so congratulations!
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    my only standard gold
    mike flips's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    if u look at my far right, ull notice i lost quite a bit of time there, 20xx is definately possible
    MF Olympics mike flips
    thanx cirenco
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    did it work?
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I've been a bit busy, and I need to modify it because the players' profiles look diifferent now, but it will be done in a few days. Right now I am getting some programs ready for the county fair.
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth Kristopher
    It happened to me, too (The Well).
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Kristopher
    Wow, yes, congratulations.
    Total Race Dave
    I've improved on some of my times in the standard levels pack but i don't think my time hasn't reduced in the Total race.
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth ~nick~111
    sry mike u have really good games but this one could just be perfected the only ting u should have done better was the end and i rekon 20.xx is possible
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Gus
    You jumped the mines? Amazing!!!!!
    ~nick~111's game on Pipe Universe Gus
    nice spring or die
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    thats what i think he did gus. I have done this about 10 times but i can never land it... its really annoying , ive played it for hours but no luck landing
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth mike flips
    ya for sure it is, my end was extremely slow
    MF Olympics mike flips
    I think the next pack should be called BOD Olympics and should feature all olympic themed levels so even levels like dive board from your pack, kristopher, would fit in
    MF Olympics Kristopher
    That might be nice, but I don't think most people will appreciate a thematic levelpack. I just want the best levels, even if they don't match each other. And that level you suggested from my pack wouldn't be good for the Time Trial. It is like Equisplateral.
    Total Race Kristopher
    It doesn't get updated instantly because it could take a long time to calculate.
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    Exacto Gus logré saltar las minas como Roel en freestyle, ojo el truco no es cuán rápido puedes enfrentar el salto , hay que frenar antes he impulsarte como en underground. Inténtenlo ustedes sino pueden lo muestro . Se puede lograr 35 inclusive en una buena carrera.
    Total Race Cirenco
    Así es yo también he bajado como 16 seg. y no pasó nada y la medalla tampoco se me asignó.

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    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    esta era mi ruta anterior , pero ahora quedó obsoleta
    A Mix IZodiac
    ya I know what you're talking about
    bike can go through the little apostophe shaped thingy
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    Yea, it is almost identical to underground, the bike must be perfectly aligned with the hill, then you have to brake as you land and then a hard boost, if anyone is interested i havent yet but i can save a replay of how this is done so whoever wants can see it... too bad i cant land it yet
    Cirenco's game on Riding School Part 2 Gus
    Man u gotta get better here!
    You Qi's game on Malysz Gus
    Ummm sorry to ask but now that you havelost the gold medal here...could you open this game?
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    no one interested?
    Tabs's game on Hillz mike flips
    since u have ur 19.xx game u should open this so someone can beat ur time and then u can post ur 19.xx and take back the gold
    MF Olympics mike flips
    thanx for the crappy ratings whoever rating these levels... rating everything a one was just dumb... i guess whoever did this was just scared their levels werent good enough, Sz should remove their ratings, especially since they rated each level a 1 for difficulty and i dont think any of them deserve that
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Gus
    I am I wanna see it
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    alrighti, i got it a few times so i will post a few different versions and put the links here
    MF Olympics Shepsidude
    Well i like the pack, not like anyone but my brother cares
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Gus
    Thx mike flips i checked ur games online page 2 c the jump...any smart ideason how 2 land it any1?????
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    La caída me costó más que el salto. A mi también me gustaría ver zip-zap y Snowstorm. ¿ Que me dicen es un trato o prefieren otro?
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    Eso es!!! ahora viene el segundo gran problema , el aterrizaje
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    24 es posible , pero el problema es c{omo controlar la velocidad al final. Inténtenlo .
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    An extra flip and wheelie!
    mike flips's game on Red Murder Kristopher
    Looks tough!
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Gus
    I say again how the hell did u dream this up!!! And more impressive still how did u (almost) pull it off??? This is amazin!!!
    mike flips's game on Red Murder Gus
    Landing suggestion: get one wheel on the place where the red flag is (bottom left) and one on the downwards slope at such an angle that it pulls you down (I no this easier sed than dun but still it can be pulled off as cirenco has proven!

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    GUAU's game on Underground GUAU
    is my best time snice i play this level for first time!
    GUAU's game on Underground Kristopher
    Nice, but many of us have done this by now.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Kristopher
    It's mean how the author put the Finish down there, so hard to get. Btw, any Cactus-type tricks at the end?
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    Yea, im too lazy to post the links , if you want to see how its done go look at the games i submitted for monday july 24 and you can see 5 different versions of the jump, too bad i never landed
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    One day ill get it cirenco
    GUAU's game on Underground mike flips
    lol good job!
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head mike flips
    WHAT DID I TELL YOU ALL!!! read my comment from my game.... "the only way to get his time is riding the ceiling at the middle hump" too bad i never did that
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Rhys
    I dont understand how alot of you manage to get the back spoke into the ground i mean when i try any of that i die.
    Ideas Rhys
    Level Testing
    I think thta level packs should be tested beforwe being alowed to be submitted to the public. I have downloaded alot of packs and find that some of them seem to be made just to annoy. Some are impossible to do due to the layout and size of the levels ansd the shapes of the polygons.
    Gun Rhys
    Yeah this one is near impossible to do, i wonder, do you test these levels before you submit them?
    ~nick~111's game on Equisplateral ~nick~111
    si es muy facil, jo jeugo this lvl like 700 times until i got it
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 mike flips
    rhys just watch this game and try and copy what hes doing, its really hard to get, even when done perfectly you dont get it to go through every time, its all about playing this level over and over till u get lucky
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    Ahora debes lograr un salto tan bueno que aterrices en la pared por sobre la bandera. Yo lo logré pero mi transiciòn no fué muy buena. Si lo haces lo más seguro es que me quites la medalla.Suerte.
    ...lol's game on Riding School Part 2 Cirenco
    A mi también me ha costado mucho este juego , salgo disparado para cualquier parte y no consigo hacerlo.
    Triple High Jump Bg
    Looks like one of my first levels...

    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=493
    Gun Kristopher
    Oh course I test all of my levels, and I complete all 102 of the levels in this pack. It's not too hard for the better players.
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    It's looking good so far, but I have only downloaded the ranking for the first 10% of the players. Here is what Rachman!'s looks like:

    ############################################################
    # rachman! #
    ############################################################
    Bottle.................................. 1
    Skyway.................................. 2
    Finding Mice............................ 2
    Me vs. The Gravity...................... 3
    Malysz.................................. 5
    Zip-Zap................................. 5
    Shark!.................................. 5
    Pipe Universe........................... 7
    Bike Impossible......................... 7
    Home Sweet Home......................... 7
    Hellraider.............................. 8
    Big Cheese.............................. 8
    Spike Cave.............................. 9
    Mount Kinabalu.......................... 9
    pumb.org................................ 10
    Bird.................................... 10
    Jurassic Parking........................ 11
    Square.................................. 11
    Sleeps With The Fishes.................. 11
    Fruits.................................. 11
    Double Sprint........................... 12
    Floors.................................. 12
    Golden Gate............................. 12
    Cave.................................... 12
    Fly!.................................... 12
    Teapot.................................. 12
    Midnight Mess........................... 13
    Bike O'Clock............................ 13
    OrR's Cave.............................. 13
    Riding School........................... 14
    palmstamp.com........................... 14
    Nose.................................... 14
    Riding School Part 2.................... 15
    The Right Way........................... 15
    Cloudwalk............................... 15
    SinkInToDrinks.......................... 15
    Tricky.................................. 15
    Sqare................................... 15
    KL City Centre.......................... 15
    Oil Drop................................ 15
    U Jump.................................. 16
    Up! Up! Up!............................. 16
    Vertical Avenue......................... 17
    Watch your head......................... 17
    Konecnik................................ 17
    Underground............................. 18
    Clay Serpent............................ 18
    Jump Over............................... 18
    Purple Palace........................... 18
    Cave 2.................................. 18
    Cablecar................................ 19
    Up stairs............................... 20
    Cemetery................................ 20
    Omaha Beach............................. 20
    Loop 3.................................. 20
    Wheel Insider........................... 21
    Human Insides........................... 21
    Touch Bricks............................ 22
    Street.................................. 23
    Moon Madness............................ 23
    Sinus Mountains......................... 24
    Hill.................................... 26
    Vanilla Sky............................. 27
    You Qi.................................. 28
    Konecnik Down........................... 29
    The Well................................ 31
    Loop 1.................................. 31
    Tatra................................... 31
    Loop 2.................................. 32
    Sawtooth................................ 33
    Downhill Madness........................ 52
    Incomplete:
    Red Murder
    Smiley
    Grand Canyon
    Hank Chill
    Blizzard
    Catapult
    Cave Dweller
    Catapult Back
    WOW
    Obstacalis Muchus
    Fear Of The Dark
    Castle
    Jump or Die
    Triangles
    Equisplateral
    Congratulations!
    Shelf
    Jumping Trial
    ƒlip that ƒlipper...
    Way Up There
    Cactus
    Hellevator
    Hillz
    Double-back Jumps
    Snowstorm
    Spiral
    Foothill Half Circle
    Sharper Than Glass
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c.
    Spike Mountain
    Parachute
    Die or Die!
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    But it looks better in a different font, and the indentation is not preserved here.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Lee
    Bloody Hell, this is without a doubt the most insane contol in a limited space I've seen on BOD
    Oliver's game on Touch Bricks PatrickYiu
    hahaha, you found another way to finish it!
    Great!

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    Gun mike flips
    rhys just because you are not good enough doesnt mean its impossible, u need to practise and then become a better player, i beat this level in my first few tries in under 20 secs
    Triple High Jump mike flips
    very true BG, great minds think alike?
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head mike flips
    I think we all find tricks and things like this but Cirenco actually spends his time working to perfect the tricks that we just dismiss as "impossible" and that is what makes him a great player
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    sweet thats exactly what i was thinking of, when completed, all players could download their rankings and then take them with wherever they go so they can see which levels need the most work, also its useful for setting goals such as "i want all levels under rank 20" or something like that, and for finding incomplete levels... good job kristopher
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    depending on how easy this is to do (i have no clue as i cant program) other useful inclusions for this thing could be the next fastest persons time, and the overall fastest persons time to make the thing more elaborate
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! nbcl
    Bike or Die Certified!

    Amazing
    Golden Club nbcl
    Gaah. I had three medals for about six hours
    ~nick~111's game on Sawtooth Gus
    You're not gonna like this nick: I just got 21:10 and when I manage to hotsynch...gold will be mine...mwahahahahahahaha
    Ranking Spreadsheet Sz
    surprise! look at player's profile below the ranking
    now you can easily download your complete ranking and save it for offline viewing (and even paste it into your palm's memo pad) and the csv options means less work for kristopher's applications
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    Really awesome! Now I can download everything within half an hour (instead of three to five hours).

    Mike flips: I can process these essentially every way possible. Until now, the problem was downloading the data. Now, I should be able to do a lot with it.
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    sweetness
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    this = extremely useful
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    The "Second Behind)"... part is entirely accurate yet, but it will be soon. It tells you how many seconds you are away from the gold medal. I think that is better than finding the "next fastest person[']s time" Any more ideas, I can add. I'll find a way to get each players ranking chart into a seperate file soon...

    ############################################################
    # mike flips #
    ############################################################
    Cablecar................................ 1 (Leader)
    Sawtooth................................ 2 (.08 Seconds behind)
    Loop 3.................................. 2 (.14 Seconds behind)
    Cactus.................................. 2 (.64 Seconds behind)
    Zip-Zap................................. 3 (.86 Seconds behind)
    Loop 1.................................. 3 (.92 Seconds behind)
    Bird.................................... 3 (1.04 Seconds behind)
    pumb.org................................ 4 (1.92 Seconds behind)
    Cave Dweller............................ 4 (21.28 Seconds behind)
    Watch your head......................... 5 (3.66 Seconds behind)
    OrR's Cave.............................. 5 (1.1 Seconds behind)
    Cave 2.................................. 5 (.36 Seconds behind)
    Snowstorm............................... 5 (.1 Seconds behind)
    Double Sprint........................... 6 (20.84 Seconds behind)
    Vertical Avenue......................... 6 (1.82 Seconds behind)
    Malysz.................................. 6 (1.58 Seconds behind)
    Midnight Mess........................... 6 (.68 Seconds behind)
    Teapot.................................. 6 (1.86 Seconds behind)
    Downhill Madness........................ 7 (.06 Seconds behind)
    Touch Bricks............................ 7 (3.42 Seconds behind)
    Floors.................................. 8 (2.28 Seconds behind)
    Pipe Universe........................... 8 (2.28 Seconds behind)
    Sqare................................... 8 (1.92 Seconds behind)
    WOW..................................... 8 (4.5 Seconds behind)
    Spiral.................................. 8 (1.02 Seconds behind)
    ‡urn I‡, ‡wis‡ I‡, E‡c.................. 8 (1.1 Seconds behind)
    Sinus Mountains......................... 9 (31.92 Seconds behind)
    Up! Up! Up!............................. 9 (2.02 Seconds behind)
    Human Insides........................... 9 (3.7 Seconds behind)
    Konecnik................................ 9 (1.64 Seconds behind)
    KL City Centre.......................... 9 (1.88 Seconds behind)
    Smiley.................................. 9 (2 Seconds behind)
    Way Up There............................ 9 (5.18 Seconds behind)
    Me vs. The Gravity...................... 10 (1.98 Seconds behind)
    palmstamp.com........................... 10 (.9 Seconds behind)
    Tricky.................................. 10 (1.24 Seconds behind)
    Fruits.................................. 10 (2.38 Seconds behind)
    You Qi.................................. 10 (1.28 Seconds behind)
    Street.................................. 11 (4.08 Seconds behind)
    Loop 2.................................. 11 (.68 Seconds behind)
    Blizzard................................ 11 (2.4 Seconds behind)
    Catapult Back........................... 11 (1.28 Seconds behind)
    Hellevator.............................. 11 (5.5 Seconds behind)
    Double-back Jumps....................... 11 (1.4 Seconds behind)
    Spike Mountain.......................... 11 (7.28 Seconds behind)
    Jurassic Parking........................ 12 (1.42 Seconds behind)
    Spike Cave.............................. 12 (1.5 Seconds behind)
    Jump or Die............................. 12 (3.06 Seconds behind)
    Triangles............................... 12 (5.74 Seconds behind)
    Die or Die!............................. 12 (26.4 Seconds behind)
    U Jump.................................. 13 (.7 Seconds behind)
    The Well................................ 13 (.54 Seconds behind)
    Bike Impossible......................... 13 (1.16 Seconds behind)
    Nose.................................... 13 (2.92 Seconds behind)
    Fly!.................................... 13 (2.04 Seconds behind)
    Mount Kinabalu.......................... 13 (2.78 Seconds behind)
    Skyway.................................. 13 (2.82 Seconds behind)
    Grand Canyon............................ 13 (4.42 Seconds behind)
    Sharper Than Glass...................... 13 (4.22 Seconds behind)
    Parachute............................... 13 (7.58 Seconds behind)
    Underground............................. 14 (17.66 Seconds behind)
    Jump Over............................... 14 (1.22 Seconds behind)
    Up stairs............................... 14 (3.18 Seconds behind)
    Tatra................................... 14 (7.58 Seconds behind)
    Catapult................................ 14 (1.58 Seconds behind)
    Fear Of The Dark........................ 14 (6.22 Seconds behind)
    Jumping Trial........................... 14 (.88 Seconds behind)
    Riding School........................... 15 (28.52 Seconds behind)
    Hellraider.............................. 15 (2.26 Seconds behind)
    Hill.................................... 15 (5.56 Seconds behind)
    Square.................................. 15 (.9 Seconds behind)
    Cemetery................................ 15 (1.1 Seconds behind)
    Omaha Beach............................. 15 (3.26 Seconds behind)
    Shark!.................................. 15 (6.38 Seconds behind)
    Red Murder.............................. 15 (16.76 Seconds behind)
    Hank Chill.............................. 15 (1.6 Seconds behind)
    Obstacalis Muchus....................... 15 (1.94 Seconds behind)
    Foothill Half Circle.................... 15 (.52 Seconds behind)
    Clay Serpent............................ 16 (.82 Seconds behind)
    Purple Palace........................... 16 (3.24 Seconds behind)
    Moon Madness............................ 16 (.86 Seconds behind)
    Finding Mice............................ 16 (15.12 Seconds behind)
    Equisplateral........................... 16 (.22 Seconds behind)
    Hillz................................... 16 (1.28 Seconds behind)
    Vanilla Sky............................. 17 (1.42 Seconds behind)
    Cave.................................... 17 (9.18 Seconds behind)
    SinkInToDrinks.......................... 17 (2 Seconds behind)
    Oil Drop................................ 17 (1.06 Seconds behind)
    ƒlip that ƒlipper....................... 17 (.18 Seconds behind)
    Wheel Insider........................... 18 (12.54 Seconds behind)
    Golden Gate............................. 18 (2 Seconds behind)
    Bike O'Clock............................ 18 (.76 Seconds behind)
    Konecnik Down........................... 18 (2.28 Seconds behind)
    Home Sweet Home......................... 18 (9.66 Seconds behind)
    Congratulations!........................ 18 (4.96 Seconds behind)
    Big Cheese.............................. 19 (5.8 Seconds behind)
    Cloudwalk............................... 19 (1.58 Seconds behind)
    Sleeps With The Fishes.................. 19 (.72 Seconds behind)
    Castle.................................. 21 (11.62 Seconds behind)
    The Right Way........................... 23 (20.58 Seconds behind)
    Riding School Part 2.................... 29 (.52 Seconds behind)
    Shelf................................... 39 (4.06 Seconds behind)
    Bottle.................................. 58 (.12 Seconds behind)
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    nice kristopher, r u gonna work with sz to put the seconds behind into the new ones he posted?
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I'm not really modifying what he posted; I am just downloading it to process and generate new charts. I doubt my charts will be uploaded directly to this web site.
    But I can add other features, such as how many posts a player has made in the forum. That wouldn't be hard.
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    we can compete for most posts? Bike or Post!
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    no one is posting lately, is everyone saving up to pull a cirenco?
    Biker's Cafe mike flips
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED
    When not in fullscreen mode, if you type the word "stats" and then press enter (on a built in keyboard) or grafitti the word "stats" and then do the grafitti symbol for enter, you can find out how many total games you have played....


    Everyone post how many games you have played in total so far here...

    I am at almost 100 000
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Lee
    62,564 - now I know why I haven't gotten chartered yet.
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Kristopher
    About 140,000- I am sure I am the champion here. I'll add up the stats on my two Palms later.

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    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I think I passed PrayeR as the top poster recently. I'll have to update the Big Bike or Die! Forum.
    Cirenco's game on Watch your head Gus
    I think that the top section is the hardest to do cirenco's way as I can do the ceiling bit but not the prolonged wheelie.
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED mike flips
    the reason i have so many i think is that everytime i have a bad beginning or something i go into the menu and restart, i sometimes play 10 games in a minute, i never wait for it to say failed
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED PMD
    134,442. Definitely, I agree with Mike Flips, I restart any time I know my time is not going to cut it for a certain level. Also, lots of trial and error.
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Kristopher
    Oh, it's actually up to 160,000 now. I didn't realize I had played 25,000 times on the Zire 72 since I got the Zodiac.
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED mike flips
    i just realized something else, i let other people play my palm so that accounts for quite a few, and i have played every single level pack there is which accounts for a lot more
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Kristopher
    I've played a fair bit of the other levels (especially mine ), and while they don't help your Time Trial ranking directly, they give you the same amount of practice. You need a lot of general practice to get used to the Bike or Die physics.
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    Here is the chart as a single file. It has stats for the top 200 players. To find your stats, go to the page, press [CTRL]-[F], and type your name. I will be putting each player's stats into a different file shortly.
    http://freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/ranking.txt
    Hall of fame on palm side ! Kristopher
    I think the RANKING SPREADSHEET thread has a similar idea. If so, then it's done!
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) Kristopher
    I updated the Big Forum to 328 pages. You can go to the bottom to see the top posters. But note, the page takes a bit of RAM.
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I split the rankings!
    5-10 players are not uploaded because their name did not start with a letter or number, but I will fix that. The names are based on the first eight characters of your name. Special characters in the name, including spaces, were replaced with "_" (And all names are in uppercase only)

    Also, I added a post counter and "Newbie Indicator."

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/27/145089/Ranking/KRISTOPH.TXT
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/27/145089/Ranking/MIKE_FLI.TXT
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/27/145089/Ranking/PRAYER.TXT
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/27/145089/Ranking/SZ.TXT
    Gun Rhys
    Wo mike u don't have to insult me.
    2 Years On Bike! Borszczuk
    Is there any chance to keep recorded tracks on SD card? Now it takes ages for PowerRun to copy all these files on launch...
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Gus
    25,793 but another 10,000 on _alex_'s palm. I mostly play timetrial levels.
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Smalls
    I'll probably show in a bit, but for now I just want to keep this gold!
    Smalls's game on Bottle Smalls
    Maybe braking is the key though...
    Smalls's game on palmstamp.com Smalls
    Thanks!
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Gus
    OK Smalls...I declare war on this level!
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Smalls
    Sorry Gus!
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    59 % newbie???? lol whats that mean

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    Gun mike flips
    sorry to sound insulting but u had just talked about how people should test their levels cuz they are annoying when they are impossible, and then u said this was impossible and that it wasnt tested - all that sounded like an insult to kristopher, and nobody gets to insult kristopher!
    Gun mike flips
    except for me of course
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    smalls is raking in some really good times lately, its gonna be harder then i thot to overpass him and vin
    Gun Kristopher
    Ha ha.

    Anyway, since this is such a long levelpack, I tried to make the levels somewhat easy, although there are a few hard ones. I can beat this about one on five times, and I got 17:52.
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    The percent is based upon your player number. Sz gets 0% because he has been here since the beginning, and Cirenco gets 98% because he is new.
    Cirenco.'s game on Downhill Madness Kristopher
    That extra period caught Cirenco too!
    Ranking Spreadsheet mike flips
    thats pretty cool but u used a bad example, cirenco has been playing about 3 times as long as me or something, but i think hes the only one that saved up his scores to make a big splash
    newhooo good job with everything
    Bullet mike flips
    hey kris whats ur best time on this?
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I know, the newbie factor only accounts for your player number. Cirenco is #3461 of 3530 players.
    Bullet Kristopher
    3:82. I think it's fairly good.
    Bullet mike flips
    my girlfriend who doesnt know how to play got 2:14 on this level lol
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Oh, Sz i noticed this earlier but forgot to tell you, the scrolling ticker thing at the bottom doesnt say "earlier this week anymore"

    unless people check very often, they will miss any new scores submitted...

    aside from seeing the new scores, it also helps for showing off purposes lol, and keeping track of what the people near my rank are doing
    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    gus, i think it was a "i wonder if i flip really fast if i can just clear the whole damn jump cuz im annoyed with this level already" kinda thing
    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    or maybe it was sheer genious

    cirenco?
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock mike flips
    sweet, i spent hours just getting low 11s
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    But not everyone sees that much. I have my bookmark so I don't need to go to the main page.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?login=1
    Bullet Kristopher
    I suppose I missed the trick you obviously found.
    Vega's game on Underground Shepsidude
    Im trying to do the trick rite now, almost got it with a 20.xx and i thought that was good :S
    Vega's game on Underground Kristopher
    Just about everyone is trying!
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! dumi
    Please how often is the graph and logo updated? I have position 140 in Time Trial Champions, but logo and graph shows 186. Thx for answer.

    Sz: please fix hyperlink at "My Profile" page. It poits to http://bike.toyspring.com/player?p=909 but i thing that it should be http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=909.

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    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Gus
    Oh ye I forgot to mention that this is a bloody good time!
    Very well done!
    _alex_'s game on SinkInToDrinks Smalls
    thanks
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Smalls
    Thanks! All luck!
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    Thanks mike, you will be able to pass me up soon, I don't play that much, maybe a total of an hour a week. I agree with the 'earlier this week' scroll bar, that was handy.
    Vin's game on Konecnik Smalls
    Was that way, only 8 show now...bummer
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    Dang the ties!! Oh well.
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    My best time without the trick is 23.42, so this level definately has some more room to go.
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Kristopher
    I'm guessing they are updated every few days, at least once a week. And yes, that link is wrong; I should have tested it!
    Bullet mike flips
    ill teach you... all you have to do is press one button
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    22 second club
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Smalls
    my best time without the flip trick at the top is 23.32
    Ranking Spreadsheet Cirenco
    Felicidades era lo que necesitabamos . Mike flips tiene razón yo he estado jugando desde hace mucho tiempo, lo que pasa es que sometí tarde mis tiempos.
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Cirenco
    Felicitaciones, que buen trabajo has hecho el último tiempo , si sigues así estaré viendo amenazado mi 3er lugar en el ranking , aunque te advierto que no será fácil.
    Cirenco's game on Fruits Cirenco
    Mike F .creo que éste método es mejor y más fácil que el otro. Hay que perfeccionar el último tramo y se puede lograr los 15 aprox. Inténtalo a ver si te sale.
    Cirenco.'s game on Downhill Madness Cirenco
    Tengo uno de 11,40 y lo he repetido 2 veces . Realmente nosé que es lo que estoy haciendo mal.
    Cirenco's game on Way Up There Cirenco
    Smalls's game on Konecnik Kristopher
    Phew! I still have the Gold!
    Bullet Kristopher
    If I thought ii was possible, I would have tried. So I tried it and got 2:06.
    Cirenco's game on Way Up There Gus
    thx for opening!
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Watch the best movies on all one page!
    I working on a page that has the fastest public movie for each level in the Time Trial. Here it is so far:

    http://www.freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/MOVIES.HTM

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    Bullet mike flips
    good job
    Zip-Zap Time Trial Kristopher
    I think the medlaists have another secret!
    Watch the best movies on all one page! Kristopher
    I updated it a bit. Sorry it is so slow in Internet Explorer! Use Firefox.
    Watch the best movies on all one page! Vega
    Wow! This is incredible. It takes a minute to load even with a cable connection but once it loads the videos play smoothly. Very cool Kristopher!
    Cirenco's game on Fruits mike flips
    yea the other method is faster, but i can never get it
    Zip-Zap Time Trial mike flips
    its kinda obvious what to do kris, same as konecnik... no other secret
    Zip-Zap Time Trial Gus
    instead of ridin the ceilin u bounce up from the triangle thingy below rite?
    Zip-Zap Time Trial mike flips
    yea but it is really really hard to do, you just gotta keep trying
    Zip-Zap Time Trial Cirenco
    Me guataría verlo, a mi no me sale tampoco el konecnik
    Tabs's game on KL City Centre mike flips
    nice to see you submitting again its been a while
    Ideas MrBeanCake
    Stunt scoring
    How about having a different kind of game - in addition to timed games, there could be *scored* games where the player earns points for executing various stunts such as flips, jumps and loops - perhaps within a set timeframe?
    Stunt scoring Kristopher
    It sounds good, but there might be loopholes in the scoring; someone might get a lot of points because they are good at one trick.
    Stunt scoring mike flips
    many loopholes

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12282
    Tabs's game on KL City Centre Cirenco
    Si hay algo que me hace enojar es que me quiten una de mis medallas, voy a tratar de recuperarla y si no puedo atacaré las tuyas. Lo siento tabs pero no cederé mis medallas tan facilmente.
    Stunt scoring Kristopher
    Yeah, this game has uncontrollable physics. You Qi's game also is unusual.
    Stunt scoring Cirenco
    Podrían incorporarse trucos o "tricks" aéreos como el súperman por ejemplo, con un afán meramente estético o quizás un nuevo tipo de competencia en saltos acrobáticos. Claro que esto tendría que ser en una nueva versión del juego.
    Lee's game on Home Sweet Home Lee
    This just feels SO sloooow.
    I personally recon there is at least 3 seconds yet to come off these times yet.
    Lee's game on Home Sweet Home mike flips
    the middle part going both ways was extremely slow, ive gotten to the car in under 15 seconds before... but clearly on this level its about being patient and steady rather then going as fast as you can
    Tabs's game on KL City Centre mike flips
    lol Cirenco, especially when its 0.02 seconds
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    opened. jumped the mines, but too bad.

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    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    Faster example

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=60656
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=60657
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=60658
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder mike flips
    lol Dk, u should have just gotten the flag on the right after u jumped the mines

    congrats on getting this, i can never land it still

    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Sz
    oh, what a shame the link is fixed now

    as for the charts, the database is updated daily but the images have the expiration time set to 24 hours (so the browser wont download a new version unless explicitly forced). if you see the incorrect chart for more than 48 hours after the ranking is changed then something is wrong.

    btw. the levelpack rankings (except standard levels) were not updated recently. this is now fixed. thanks to all who reported the problem!
    BOD - Ibanez Levels Ibanez
    I created these ages ago when I first discovered the amazing BOD. We've enjoyed playing them and since just realising I can upload it I thought others might like to try them. Nothing too challenging I'm sure, mostly I was playing with testing how the bike works - especially the stretchiness! Jason and Adam are my sons so they had to have a level each! Enjoy...
    Total Race, Golden Club and more! Cirenco
    Gracias Sz, estaba esperando la actualización de las posiciones de los niveles. Sólo falta ajustar algunos detalles del tiempo en Total Race y la asignación correcta de medallas y quedamos todos contentos
    Adam Ibanez
    I'd love to know how fast the experts can do these, my best are...

    13.84
    fire Ibanez
    This was better once, I think this is an old version, oh well - 18.88
    j Ibanez
    Probably the toughest of the pack - 1:00.18
    Flagssssss Ibanez
    I know, just playing: 3.60
    elastic Ibanez
    Enjoying the catapult - 15.68
    bounce Ibanez
    More stretching bike frames - 25.88
    big fall Ibanez
    Stick to those walls - 9.26
    predictable Ibanez
    just mind your head - 23.08
    big fall 2 Ibanez
    More sticky walls - 15.64
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder Smalls
    Nicely done, it's a very hard trick!
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    opened. jumped the mines, but too bad.
    DavidKing's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    Thank mike, I have already revised.
    Thank Smalls, but that is not difficult.
    bounce mike flips
    24:54
    Flagssssss mike flips
    tied ya
    elastic mike flips
    14:68

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    predictable mike flips
    22.84
    big fall 2 mike flips
    15.28, 14.50 should be easy
    mike flips's game on Red Murder mike flips
    FINALLY I DID IT
    mike flips's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    Congratulations!
    mike flips's game on Red Murder mike flips
    ty dk, sorry for stealing your silver, but when i saw that you did the trick as well i was inspired to try again and i got it
    mike flips's game on Red Murder DavidKing
    Don't mind, should think how to get 3X.XX
    mike flips's game on Red Murder mike flips
    i lost one or 2 seconds at the beginning, and about 3 or 4 at the end, to get 3X.xx it just needs to be a smooth ride, i was worrying to much about screwing up at the end so i went really slow
    BOD - Ibanez Levels Ibanez
    Thanks for trying my levels Mike, I hope you enjoyed them - I knew some faster times were out there! Love your Olympics by the way - though I am struggling...they'll be good for my techniques!
    BOD - Ibanez Levels mike flips
    thanks ibanez
    mike flips's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    Felicidades MF y DK , consiguieron el aterrizaje . Ahora sólo falta perfeccionarlo para bajar los 40.
    SiuLun's Levels Smalls
    Only winning the US, hopefully someday the whole thing, but not for a long time.
    SiuLun's Levels Smalls
    Sorry about the last comment, I thought I was on a different page, I will try to keep this gold though.
    SiuLun's Levels Cirenco
    No están actualizadas las medallas de los levels, lo siento small.
    Cirenco's game on Moon Madness mike flips
    holy crap, thats fast
    Cirenco's game on Moon Madness mike flips
    if u pulled a sinus mountain on this thats awesome
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Cirenco just submitted a lot of new games but none of his times displayed at the bottom for me?
    Medals by Country mike flips
    lol tabs this is what u get for trying to take back KL city center
    mike flips's game on Moon Madness mike flips
    hey cirenco, is this what you did?
    SiuLun's Levels DavidKing
    Congratulate Smalls, but Cirenco may get winning soon, Include most levelpack.
    Report a bug bjtj
    Need Unlock Code
    I downloaded the newest update on my Zodiac and it purged my unlock code. I can no longer play anything but the 1st 5 levels. HELP!!

    bjtj

    Brandon

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    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Cirenco's game on Moon Madness Cirenco
    Nueva ruta , me permite alcanzar mayor velocidad en el último tramo. Es más , estoy convencido que hago los 19 pronto.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Cirenco
    Impresionante marca. ¿Nuevo truco?
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    De nuevas rutas sólo puse Wheel Insider, los demás que no hice público voy a mejorarlos antes de mostrarlos. En Trata por ejemplo, creo que se puede bajar el tiempo a la mitad y en eso estoy trabajando, pero es demasiado duro de hacer.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    amazing, i think its just extra fast, no new trick?
    mike flips's game on Moon Madness mike flips
    cirenco?
    mike flips's game on Moon Madness Cirenco
    Soy malo para guardar secretos. Eso es voy a tener que bajarlo pronto porque caundo te salga me pasas.
    mike flips's game on Moon Madness mike flips
    lol alright, dont worry i wont get this any time soon
    Need Unlock Code Kristopher
    I know there is a special Zodiac version that let you register through Zodiac's website. I'm not sure how to recover that code. But if you registered the other way, and got a registeration code based upon your Hotsync ID, then it shouldn't have changed. You might have the code in an email, or you might be able to get it from the place you originally purchased Bike or Die! (Palmgear, Handango, ...)
    Kristopher's game on Grand Canyon Kristopher
    A few good flips.
    Kristopher's game on Tricky Kristopher
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I'm back in the Top 10!!!!
    Vega's game on The Right Way Snakedriver
    You've got to play the right way the right way and boy o boy did this persondo it the right way
    Kristopher's game on Tricky mike flips
    lol i once fell off the thing at the far right like you but my wheel landed directly on the point and i bounced off it to get the flag
    Kristopher's game on Grand Canyon Vega
    This is pretty cool and this level looks fun
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    ...high speed & close to the ground the whole time
    wangyanjun's game on Riding School Part 2 wangyanjun
    It took me 2 hours to creat this record.I am from China.I must point out that Taiwan is a province of China, not a country!!!
    DavidKing's game on Omaha Beach Smalls
    Very true.

    would also like to see, btw.
    wangyanjun's game on Riding School Part 2 mike flips
    i am very proud of you
    DavidKing's game on Omaha Beach mike flips
    me 2 me 2

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    Shepsidude's game on Underground Shepsidude
    Well, not that good considering other peoples times, however it took me a few days, my brother thinks i should keep at it, i WILL be getting a better time soon
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 Smalls
    Thanks for showing alex!!
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 mike flips
    impossible level
    Golden Club mike flips
    playing the new levelpacks as they are releases wont help anyone... even if i got 15 golds from a new pack and got another 25 from other levels, it would still be years for me to catch up
    Golden Club Vega
    Mike flips - Yes you might need to stack up the golds to climb the charts, but wasn't it just the other day that Cirenco was like #80 or something and now look! Within just a few weeks, he'll be in the top ten! Plus many of the top ranking players in this category have lost most of their golds. This means passing them will be easy as long you earn 'em & keep 'em
    Golden Club mike flips
    yea but i dont care about top 10, i care about #1 which is virtually impossible for new players, even cirenco will take another year to climb up to the top at least
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Quote: "Playing the new levelpacks as they are released won't help anyone."

    Yes, it will. Almost anyone in the Top 50 could get into the Golden Club if they just play the new levelpacks well enough to keep a medal for two days. It was really easy to get medals for the first few days of the Newbie Pack; a way for many to get into the Golden Club who other-wise couldn't.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Ibanez
    Is still the current scoring?
    >>Scoring:
    >> - 1 pt for each rank within the level
    >> - 100 pts for each completed level

    Is it the case that the 1pt/rank is only for the first 99 places?
    So if I complete a level and am 124th place do I just get 1 point, or 101 points? Or should this read 100 points for a completed "level pack"?
    thanks....
    Golden Club mike flips
    sure it mite help you be in the golden club and get up to rank 20 or something but unlike TTC there is no way for new players to rise to number 1, even number 5 is near impossible
    Golden Club Ibanez
    Maybe it should cover a rolling period of the prior 12 or 6 months. Take it too far though and it just becomes another hall of fame ranking. Currently I see it is good that you never lose recognition for winning a gold, however long ago it was, I EVER win a gold I wouln't want it forgotten! So maybe two versions - the lifetime awards, and a more current rolling 12 months...
    Improving the global ranking calculation Ibanez
    It appears my level pack rank would be no different if on a particular level I was 101st or 2000th. All the action is in the top 100. Now there are over 2000 players maybe this should be increased. Yes it's in my interests as I have a hard time getting in the top 100!!
    Golden Club Vega
    Um...this doesn't need to be about making this ranking good for new people. Infact, I think this is an excellent system just as is because it's very pure. It gives proper recongnition to those who have had golds that have stood the test of time. Also, it's silly to try and make something that is all about allowing new people (or anyone really) to be able to climb to the top quickly. Everyone at the top of this gold chart has had to earn their place here over the long term. So if anyone has interest in this particular ranking, they will just need to understand that it heavily favors long term gold holding, but that is just the very nature of it. It also recongizes anyone who has ever held a gold at day's end, which is currently at 84 different players. If someone is really interested in climbing quickly, just do what Cirenco did
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    It appears that completing a level won't help until you get to be #100. So I think it is 100 points for the Gold Medalist and 1 point for #100. Sz seemed to say you get at least 100 points for completing the level no matter what your rank was, but it doesn't seem to work that way. Notice how Vega is ahead of you in the Standard Levels.
    Golden Club Kristopher
    This is supposed to be an "eternal Hall of Fame" and won't show your real place in Bike or Die history until you stop playing.
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Bad Links for These Forums
    I was looking through the pages of ideas, when I found a bug!

    There are links for each page of ideas near the top of the ideas page. The link to page one is
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=0
    and the link to page two is
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=1

    The number at the end of the URL looks like it says which page you are on, but it actually, the number is different for every post.
    There are four pages, so these pages shouldn't exist:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=8
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=9
    but go to
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=8
    and notice PrayeR says "PPC " as the first thread. Then go to
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=9
    and notice "PPC " is the second thread on the page.

    So instead of page 2 being
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=1
    it should be
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1975&tp=20
    or something like that.
    Golden Club Kristopher
    See PrayeR's suggestion here, which was the idea behind the Golden Club.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=3941
    Golden Club Cirenco
    Opino lo mismo que Vega , éste es un premio a la perseverancia y también incetiva a obtener el oro. Lamentablementea medida que se suben otros levels cada vez parece que hay menos jugadores, es más hoy es primera vez que veo el mensaje "No new players)(No recent changes)", y creo que deberíamos enfocarnos a promocionar el juego para que ésto no suceda.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Ibanez
    Yeah - and he's only completed 6 levels! OK, 5 of them are Gold, amazing...I actually think the scoring is pretty good, really makes you work to get in that top 100, even I have a couple in there.
    Golden Club mike flips
    Rachman was just lucky to be around when there were not many players....
    Golden Club mike flips
    If this is supposed to be an eternal hall of fame... imagine i play every level and get rank 2 in every single level, that would make me rank number 1 in time trial champions by hundreds of points points and people would consider me the best player ever... but i would not even move any where in the golden club

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    Golden Club Kristopher
    It isn't perfect, but it works well. PrayeR got many points to this competition when he was playing. Now that he left, he still has many medals, but one two Golds. It works well like that.
    Oh, and just try to get all Silvers. It just won't happen.
    Golden Club mike flips
    lol kris watch me....

    i think this should be changed to "time in the top ten" club. This way, players who are overall good over a long period of time like kristopher for example can be ranked highly, - it accomplishes the same thing of showing long term acheivements but it removes the focus from just golds to overall excellence
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head DavidKing
    Ending is too bad.

    If the ending like Cirenco, 24 is possible.
    mike flips's game on Congratulations! DavidKing
    well done. I have not played this level for a long time.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    the situation gets worse with increasing number of players... it can be seen even more clearly when using the new tool " Distribution chart" (btw. the idea of this chart comes from   Ibanez - thanks!). currently most people won't earn anything from improving their play until entering top 100 and this is bad because someone with average level ranking #200 should be higher than people having #300.
    the time has come! i'm going to change the scoring method during this weekend (in the begining it will be presented as alternative hall of fame category that will replace the current ranking eventually)
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    and there is one more thing to fix in the new scoring system: "bottle-like" levels
    of course these levels could be excluded from the competition, but this is not the best method, one person's "bottle" can be quite challenging for someone else

    let's assume these results (current scoring)
    #1.6,26 (100 pts)
    #2.6,26 (99 pts)
    #3.6,28 (97 pts)
    #4.6,28 (96 pts)
    #5.6,20 (95 pts)

    i have 3 ideas:
    1.give the equal number of points for people having the same time (but definitely not the medals ), so it is like we counted "group of players" instead of "players"
    eg.:

    #1.6,26 = 100 pts
    #2.6,26 = 100 pts
    #3.6,28 = 99 pts
    #4.6,28 = 99 pts
    #5.6,20 = 98 pts

    advantage: you are not "punished" for entering the game after the world record was achieved.

    2. similar to 1, but the score depends on the ranking position of the best player in group, not the group itself.

    #1.6,26 = 100 pts
    #2.6,26 = 100 pts
    #3.6,28 = 98 pts
    #4.6,28 = 98 pts
    #5.6,20 = 96 pts

    (a group of 10 players having 6,26 would all get 100 points but then the player with next best time 6,28 would only get 90 points)


    3.calculate the score directly from time, not the sequence of players:

    #1.6,26 = 100 pts
    #2.6,26 = 100 pts
    #3.6,28 = 100 pts
    #4.6,28 = 100 pts
    #5.6,20 = 98 pts
    (this would be for the example formula: 0,05 sec = 1 point)

    advantage: you don't have to play 1000 times to gain 0,02 sec on "stupid" level which does not allow for showing your skills and only depends on luck.

    what is the best method?
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    missing "earlier this week" - this is because of the new database structure. it was a kind of tradeoff, i have now 2 years history of medals and main ranking position for each player (which allows me to draw ranking charts and calculate golden club ranking) instead of 7 days history of all rankings.
    but if you really miss that feature then i could reimplement it (perhaps in a more efficient way).
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    OMG , duro golpe me has dado creí que tardaría mucho en caer este oro. Lo trataré de recuperar y haré un ataque a tus oros en estos días. Esto es la guerra DK
    Improving the global ranking calculation Cirenco
    SZ: Si hay que elegir me inclino por la "3" debido a que los otros métodos son desmotivantes para jugadores nuevos. Pero yo creo que un buen jugador debe ser capaz de superar esto y creo que se pueden mejorar los tiempos de los "bottle" , además es un mérito hacer uno , y creo que se debe premiar ésto también.
    mike flips's game on Congratulations! mike flips
    thanx DK
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    I REALLY MISS IT SZ
    mike flips's game on Congratulations! Cirenco
    Una medalla más para la colección. Mientras no me quites una mía estamos bien.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    It has to be #1.

    Number 2 can not work fairly, for example, in Level 1 of Newbie Pack, "Shelf," 30 players have the same time of 7.74. If you get 7.76 you would only get 70 points instead of 100 which is extremely unfair.

    Number 3 does not even work. For example, in Master Ko's Level 2, "Bottle," what amount of time would you choose to represent 1 point. If you choose 0.05 sec to be 1 point, then people at rank 100 would be getting too many points because their time is under half a second away from rank 1. However, their time of 6.64 for example is not a very good time for this level, and they are getting to many points that they dont deserve. If you try and decrease it to 0.02 or 0.03 sec = 1 point, then by that time you are defeating the purpose of not having to get that extra "0,02 sec on a 'stupid' level"...

    # 1 works because it maintains the competitive nature of every "bottle" type level. In bottle, it takes a lot of work to get a fast time and if you end up at rank 30 you can still get 90+ points. And on levels such as shelf where you either get the trick or you cant get the trick, if you get it you get 100 points, and if you cant get it and still get a fast time using the normal method of beating the level, you can still get 90+ points for your fast time.

    #1 all the way
    mike flips's game on Congratulations! mike flips
    lol Cirenco, i remember what happened to TABS when he beat one of yours.

    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    as for #3: of course the formula would adapt itself to the best time for a given level, eg. 100 points for 6.26 (the best time), 50 points for 2*6.26 (twice the best time), 10 point for 3*6.26 etc.
    i don't agree that #3 does not work. it works differently
    if 100 or 200 people are able to complete a very simple level in almost equal time then they could get 90-100 points - all of them! this would make such levels unatractive for experienced players, we can assume that all serious bikers would get 100 points and that's the point: as a result such levels are "excluded" from the "premier league" competition, but they still can be played by beginners.
    well... actually, after introducing the new rule for assigning points to ranks, player #600 will get slightly more points than #601 so maybe this feature of "method 3" is not so important. but the ability to "exclude" certain levels from professional players without hurting newbies is quite interesting.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    but SZ, for shelf... if you cant get the trick then you are automatically at least 1.5x7.74 which may mean only 75 points or whatever you deem appropriate. This is unfair, as some people (Me, Smalls, Jayce, Louis, and You Qi) all of whom are top 15 players are unable to get this trick and shouldnt have to suffer a loss of 25 points just because we cant get a glitch in a level to work for us.

    Also, then you (Sz) would have to sit there and decide what is appropriate formula for each level that is considered a bottle,
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    it depends on how many people are able to do the trick. if there were 100 trick-able players then you would vote against ranking based method
    the need for artificially invented formula is of course the drawback of "method 3", one can always argue that a different formula is better.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Ibanez
    Wow Sz - fantastic on the distribution curve, now that's quick work. I think some of the levels/packs may need a smaller 'bucket' size to smooth the curve a bit and when there's someone who literally took forever to complete a level it screws it up a bit too, though the zoom feature is an excellent way to cover this. Just need to highlight 'your' position on the curve and my vision will be complete!

    As for calc method, I actually like #2 - it's the Olympic way, if there's a three way tie they all get a gold medal, however if you're 4th you don't get a medal at all. Method #1 suggest you should get a silver in this circumstance which doesn't seem right. But will it still be for the first 100 places, or is this extended now?

    I do like #3 too but i think the dynamic nature of the formula will probably get out of hand...
    Improving the global ranking calculation DavidKing
    I think that "3" is the most fair method, perhaps someone has already obtained better time, just he has not submitted yet.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher

    #1 20.00 (100 pts)
    #2 21.00 (99 pts)
    #3 22.00 (98 pts)

    Assume the rankings for a particular level are like that (^) and #1 is put into effect. Then assume that the Silver Medalist gets a faster time and becomes tied with the Gold Medalist:

    #1 20.00 (100 pts)
    #2 20.00 (100 pts)
    #3 22.00 (99 pts)

    The Bronze Medalist, and everyone below him, would gain a point from this because of method #1. That's why method #2 is better.
    Look at Nik's position in the Bottle level. He is currently #51, which means he gets 50 points for Bottle. But method #1 would deemphasive Bottle because of the ties, and he would get 95 points with method #1. If everyone in the Top 50 gets over 90 points for Bottle, most players could only lose 10 points for having a bad time. It would give Bottle less effect than the other levels. Maybe you want that, but I see it as an odd side-effect to method #1. If Bottle has three medalists like the other levels, shouldn't it be as important for the Time Trial?

    Method #3: I don't prefer this over the current ranking. The current ranking gives you less points each time someone beats you on a level. That is how it should be, with your ranking based upon how many people can beat it. Method #3 is based upon the Gold Medalist's time. So when Roel found the secret to Underground, everyone else would have lost many points, possibly up to 90 points for some players. It might have been good if Roel had 90 points more than the Silver Medalist, because he was 10 seconds faster, but then everyone is forced to do the trick themselves. It would encourage Gold Medalists to get even faster times, but would put have awkward emphasis on Cave Dweller. _Alex_ is ranked as #10, but his time is closer to #35 (44 second difference) than to #1 (45 second difference). Also, you didn't mention how it would rank people who haven't completed this level. If a person knows they will get last play even when they complete it, then there would be no reason for them to complete the level. Although method #3 might be okay for Bottle.

    Good work on the Distribution Histogram, BTW.

    So I support method #2. But one change: instead of giving points for fast times, give points for slow times. Then the person with the fewest points wins. If a person doesn't complete a level, then they get one point more than the person who came in last place. It would remove the problem where #101 and #1001 get the same points. It would put much emphasis on the Standard Levels, especially the first five, where you could have an extra 1000 points for a bad time. But I think that is good; if a lot of people play the level, then it should be more important in the Time Trial. The only problem is for people such as Vega. With this new method I am proposing (method 4), a person who plays the first ten levels somewhat well would be ranked higher than Vega. A benefit to this though: players like Vega, Oliver, and Tabs might start playing all of the levels, instead of just trying to get medals. Method #4 would also rank people with the demo version even lower because they have only played 5 levels. It might be better this way.

    BTW, I would have posted earlier, but I was removing a virus and replacing my WINNTSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM file.

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    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I was watching it for a while, and all the changes were in the Golden Club. It makes it hard to find the changes in the Hall of Fame.


    http://bike.toyspring.com/changes.php
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    for our current bottle levels we NEED method 1, because it supports those who have pretty good runs but cant get the "trick." Otherwise, if you dont get the trick you are screwed with method 2, because it basically says, if you cant get the trick (and about 30 people have the trick in shelf) then your maximum number of points is 70 and that takes away any chance of getting a good rank in the level pack. Smalls is the fastest without the trick in Shelf but would get only get 70 points, this difference of 30 means he probably cant even get into the top 5 in Newbie Pack, but with method 1, hed get over 90 points and still remain in competition.

    Method 3 cant work because the formula has to change with each level and people would complain if the time period is 0.05=1point and they are 0.06 away and there is no real way to determine the best formula.
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head DavidKing
    Ending is too bad.

    If the ending like Cirenco, 24 is possible
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head DavidKing
    Still have improved space.
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head mike flips
    not much space but a little bit, great run
    wangyanjun's game on Riding School Part 2 Lee
    interesting political viewpoint
    I'm sure you arrived at it on your own, with no external political influence, with fully available global information, and that you would be freely allowed to express an alterante opinion of you had one.

    Good work on the level too though.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    See the new scoring system  Hall of Fame
    all level points are calculated using the modified formula

    by doing this, any number of players will always fit in 100..1 points range. this change does not influence the ranking for players having all levels in top 50 (because for first 50 players 1 rank = 1 point, as before). below #50 one rank is worth half point and so on. as a result, you will almost always earn much more than 1 point for completing a level (no matter what time) and you get rewarded for improving your position even if you not in top 100.

    "bottle" and "shelf" are calculated using "method #1" in this experimental system (equal points for equal times) and "bottle" is not excluded from the total score.

    kris: the idea of "giving points for slow times" is elegant (no artificial limit of 100 points/ranks) but it makes difficult levels "worthless" compared to bottles or standard levels 1-5.
    and from the technical perspective i don't like the fact that each new player would change everyone's points
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    (the numer 99 in the picture is incorrect, should be 100)
    Sz
    See  Improving the global ranking calculation
    Improving the global ranking calculation Cirenco
    Creo que al final nunca se conseguirá dejar contentos a todos, pero independientemente del método al fianl siempre el mejor se abrirá paso. Ojalá en el futuro evitemos los posibles "bottle" porque son un problema.
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head Cirenco
    Pensé que había recuoperado la medalla, esto se pone bueno. Trataré de hacer los 24 , pero lo veo difícil en el corto plazo así que intentaré un ataque a otros de tus oros esta semana.
    BikeOrDie vicious Cirenco
    Se ven bien , exepto uno "butthole" no queremos saber más de " bottle"
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    Hi all...ive been playing BoD for a few months now and I think that we need new hall of fame lvls! the reason is it looks like all the other hall of fame lvls are exausted by ppl that have been playing for years! hence leaving no chance for newbies like me to get to the top..not saying I'm the best player but I am currently lvl 70 and still moving up. I think it would just be more fun if we had a brand new lvl pack! let me know what you all think!
    Need Unlock Code bjtj
    I bought it from tapwave and they are out of business. The code seems to be numbers only and my hotsync ID is letters. I can be reached at bjtj3@comcast.net if someone can offer help.

    Thanks

    Brandon
    #67 in the world on bike or die.
    Need Unlock Code Sz
    bjtj: i have sent you an email.
    anyone having similar problems should write to support@toyspring.com
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    yeah, i forgot about new levels because of all these hall of fame reorganizations. looks like v1.4 will take more time than expected (as usual but not without a reason: i'm adding even more enhancements than initially planned ) so i'm going to add new hall of fame levels this week without waiting for the new features of v1.4.
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    Sounds Awesome Sz!
    mike flips
    I like this - if bottle and shelf are not removed, this is the only fair way to keep them in competition, because people joining in 2006 should not have to suffer a loss of up to 30 points because the levels have already bottled up
    mike flips
    even for levels such as Downhill madness this is useful and fair
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    A few good levels for the new pack

    Ibanez levels: Elastic

    MF Olympics: 50m swim, ski jump, long jump, 100 yard dash, Ride the Rings

    The extreme files: Gun, Cannon, Blue Jay, Iguana, Fire, Outside of the Box,

    These all look like good ttc levels with no glitches or bottles or anything like that.

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    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    I agree Mike...there not bad lvls. but is there anyway we can get newer lvls that no one has played? but if not...a new pack is all I want and ill be happy with that!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I don't think too many people have played my levels, and they are fairly new. Sz, were you using the levels from http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=7955 or would you use different levels and let the levelpack proposed there be added later?
    Kristopher
    I can't help noticing the new scoring doesn't change the Top 20, except for a bug with Lee's scoring. If you guys want to use this scoring instead of the current one, that is fine.

    -> Lee 7540,125 pts
    -> (201,875 pts behind monkeydave)
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    ok I got a question.. say I'm only 15 points behind someone and I just beat a lvl that I haven't uploaded...after I beat that lvl I'm not getting my 100 points! what's going on Sz? shouldn't I get my 100 and the points for the rank in the lvl?
    mike flips
    it doesnt change the ranks but it does change points behind - in the overall picture, it doesnt make a huge difference although it helped me for example by 15-20 points

    However on a smaller scale, for example in Newbie Pack, if the old rankings are used, Vin was 12 points behind alex, but now with the experimental ranking, Vin, instead of getting 84 points for rank 16 in shelf and alex instead of getting 94 points for rank 6 in shelf, they both get 100 points and now Vin only needs 2 more points to pass Alex in Newbie pack its not a huge difference but it means the difference between getting a medal and not getting a medal in the level packs
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    JHardman, with the current system, i dont think you actually get the 100 points for the level, you only get 100 points if you are rank 1, 99 for rank 2, and so on until u get 1 point for rank 100... If you are ranked under 100 in the level then i dont think you get any points...
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    exactly, you get 100 points but immediately lose the number of points according to your rank.
    but you always gain at least 1 point for completing a level (and usually much more than 1 point in the new system).
    Lee
    You know - I think this vindicates the original scoring system that there are only a few changes from the original system.
    I must say though, that I know Mata and Ruben are both better than me at this game, so I think perhaps that I don't agree with the new scoring system.
    Sz
    this is a glitch in the matrix. Lee - you are The One!
    Kristopher's game on Shelf mike flips
    lol
    Kristopher's game on Shelf Kristopher
    It can be done here, too.
    Kristopher's game on Shelf Kristopher
    How did you find this in the minute between my submission and commenting??
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    My method #4 puts emphasis on completing the hard levels and mastering the easy levels, instead of putting equal emphasis on all of the levels. It might be good; maybe not.
    Kristopher's game on Shelf mike flips
    Im watching you
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    its good for newbies but it ruins the whole point of the competition, which is to master every level to become #1

    i think the experimental method now is perfect, it gives lower ranked players the points they deserve for completing the levels and it allows new players who tie old scores to get the points they deserve
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    Then use the new method, if the "EXperiment" is over.
    Levelpack Explorer PMD
    Hey, check out my new level pack I just had SZ post. I made them over the past year, but never had them posted. There are only 6. Half of them are pretty long, but if you play them, you can do them pretty fast. There are some tricks. A skilled player can do them much faster.
    Levelpack Explorer PMD
    Almost forgot: http://bike.toyspring.com/levels.php?p=85
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    #9!
    BikeOrDie - X mike flips
    they are nice levels but are either too short/long or are similar to other levels that we already have in TTC

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    BikeOrDie - X mike flips
    I think the only good level for Time Trial is Dirt Jumps
    DavidKing
    To Vin even _ alex _, This is justice that comes late, in the past, they demanded to remove shelf from this ranking, SZ realized their hope at last, well done.
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    that makes a lot more sence! thanks for your help! and congrats kristopher!!
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    oh and by the way Sz...i stole my icon from ur website..hope you don't mind! :p
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    personally I like the experimental scoring. instead of me being lvl #68 ill be lvl #63. that's 5 lvls!!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Mishka took it first.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=2003
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    holy crap ur right! now I need to find a new icon!...or I could just kill Mishka! hehe
    mike flips
    Sz, this new way of scoring should take over the old way...

    Question: Is the "method #1" applied to all levels or just bottle and shelf?

    I feel that it should apply to every level in the game, as a relatively new player i have never been around when a new pack has come out and many of my scores that i submit are tied with other people (ex. Downhill madness) I feel that it is only fair for method 1 to apply to every level in the game so that new players dont lose out on points just because they werent around early enough.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    congrats on 9 kris too bad ull never catch me
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Probably not, but if you ever stop playing, you will not be able to stay in the Top 10.
    BTW, Cirenco is #2 in the Experimental Scoring.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    So SZ, if you can can u put back the "Earlier This week" scroll bar/ would u do that before the new pack comes out or after
    Cirenco
    Con lo único que no estoy de acuerdo es que el método es poco aspiracional, es decir no incentiva a ubicarse lo más alto posible en un juego. ¿Se entendió? Creo los cambios deben estar enfocados a mejorar el juego y no a los jugadores, si quieres ser el mejor debes trabajar para ello.
    Vega
    Why does it jump from me at 599 points to The Two at over 613,000 points?? Is there really nobody in between?
    Vega
    oh is that 613.034? Sorry it shows up on my screen as a comma
    JHardman
    I like this way of scoring! keep it
    Kristopher
    That confused me too; the comma is being used, but we Americans would use a period. It'd be easier if the points were just rounded to whole numbers.
    Fenway mike flips
    theres so many ways to beat this level i like it
    Ibanez
    I think multiplying everything by 1000 will make it easier to read, the comma confuses me too.
    Fenway PMD
    I made it and I keep discovering new tricks. Can you beat 16.06?
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head DavidKing
    24! but still have improved space.

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    DavidKing's game on Watch your head mike flips
    amazing!
    Fenway mike flips
    no not even close but i can see how its done, good job
    mike flips
    SZ is this going to apply to all levels in the game or just the "bottle" levels, all the levels in the game would be nice
    Kristopher
    We definitely need the same scoring for all of the levels, instead of chosing different methods for Bottle and Shelf.
    Report a bug Song.Shang
    Current Ranking Can't Update!
    dear administrator,
    i upload a new record to replace old one by java sync. but the old one is still displayed in current ranking, no new record. i don't kown how to delet the old.
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    12. Clay Serpent - #244/641 (0:39,66)
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    Today, 10:44 Level 12 - Clay Serpent 0:37,64
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    btw, i uploaded the old record with a old temporary id and they were converted to this id automaticlly by system.
    my id: "Song.Shang"
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Kristopher
    (Sz is the Administrator)

    Recordings typicaly never get delete from this site; it process all of your games to find your fastest times for each level.

    I'm not sure why the recording isn't counted.
    ( http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=61739 )
    Sz has been changing things recently, so maybe your ranking just isn't updated as frequently.

    But it is in the Freestyle Competition:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/view.php?c=1&fs=&hf=0&fs=1
    If it isn't updated/fixed within two days, then there is definitely a problem.

    FYI, your other profile is here:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=3573
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Kristopher
    I just noticed all of the flags are displaying oddly; that might mean the server is being overworked or is preoccupied.
    Song.Shang's game on Clay Serpent mike flips
    lol thats kinda cool with the flags doing that
    Current Ranking Can't Update! mike flips
    speaking of updating, SZ we need "earlier this week" pleasepleaseplease
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Song.Shang
    so, i think the only way is breaking all my old record with a new id and upload them with this new id ?
    it's a challenge to my treo keyboard~
    Current Ranking Can't Update! PMD
    I am pretty sure that something is not working in the normal process. The last couple of games I uploaded earlier tonight show up in my games online, but don't show in the level pack rankings just yet. Maybe just being a little patient is all it will take.
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Kristopher
    Don't bother with multiple player names. Since you can see all of the games in the "Games On-Line" section, the games aren't lost. We are just transitioning to a new scoring method at the moment.
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    y is it lately my recordings aren't showing up and my icon doesn't show my current rank?
    Sz
    sorry for the confusion! of course it should be dot instead of comma.
    multiplying everything by 1000 would result in huge and unfriendly numbers.
    as a gift to everyone who does not like fractions i made them smaller

    and yes, i think the new method can and should be used for all levels - so we don't have to decide each time if a given levels is a "bottle" or not.
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Sz
    kristopher is right - if you can see your best recordings in "games on-line" then you have done everything correctly. relax and wait

    if your recording is not visible there are 2 possibilities:
  • it was submitted under a different name. i can fix it for you (send me a message)
  • it was played on a different device or the game was reinstalled so BoD does not know its previous "identity". the sever detects this condition and places such recordings in "unauthorized games" tab. go there and follow the instructions.

    in this case i see that the updating process on the server was halted for unknown reason and the hall of fame was not updated

    "earlier this week" - yeah, i remember i found a new way to implement this mechanism without storing a complete 7 day history but i need some more time.
  • Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    For the same reasons as here:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=9157
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    someone has "upgraded" the server and my scripts cannot put text labels on charts!
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    what is the "distribution chart"
    Current Ranking Can't Update! mike flips
    yay! earlier this week
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    update: chart labels are back!

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    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    The Distribution Chart is a histogram for the Hall of Fame and each Time Trial level. The links are near the top right of the screen.

    (Note the link is different for each player.)
    http://bike.toyspring.com/catchart.php?c=0&l=100&p=1769
    http://bike.toyspring.com/catchart.php?c=4&l=50&p=1769
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    distribution chart shows what scores are most and least popular . you can see at a glance if you are above or below average in a given level or ranking. charts for "trick levels" like  Downhill Madness Time Trial or  Shelf Time Trial are particularly interesting because they have two peaks: one for players being able to do the trick and another one for those who ride the regular way.
    See also: Frequency distribution on Wikipedia
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    SWWEEEET, lol i never noticed it there... its pretty awesome
    Golden Club Kristopher
    The best players are the ones with the most Gold Medals. "Overall excellence" shows more that you have played every level many times, but the Golds show who is potentially the best player.

    BTW, I see Vega is already the #1 American in this competition.
    Golden Club mike flips
    nah, kris, i think this shows mostly those players who have been around for a long time, and were around when there were not as many players, and not as many good and dedicated players, half of these people dont play any more and racked up all their points when there were under 50 people seriously playing for gold medals instead of just for fun...

    most of the top ten doesnt play anymore and has 2 or less golds,

    if Golden Club is kept, it should be changed to a formula, that includes the total number of players (including only players who have completed at least 5 levels or something)

    This would allow for a gold in standard pack now, to be worth more then a gold in standard pack 2 years ago when it was really easy

    Golden Club Sz
    sure, it was easier to win a gold medal (so it should be worth less), but on the other hand, a brilliant player could only win 25 points a day (25 levels) and now the best champions can theoretically gain 100 points a day in golden club
    Golden Club mike flips
    lol Sz, key word = theoretically

    I guess my point is just that a newer player will most likely never break the top 5

    newhoo, cant wait for a new pack, ive never been around when ones been released
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Actually, there are 103 levels in the Time Trial, so more than a hundred a day is possible. I know it looks like rachman! will be in the Top 10 forever, but Bike or Die! has only been around for two years. The old players won't stay at the top forever. In fact, Cirenco will be the leader within a year if he can keep 25 Golds.
    It was easier to get Golds back then, but there were no movies to watch when the Bike or Die! started, and everyone had to develope their own routes. The effect of those Golds is trivial, and will have less effect on the Golden Club every day as the current Gold medalists slowly overtake rachman! and the other "ancient players."
    Current Ranking Can't Update! Song.Shang
    Thanks Sz,Kristopher! now the record can display normally in current ranking page
    Golden Club mike flips
    rachman and prayer were around for a lot more than 25 levels sz, and kristopher, cirenco said hes been playing for over a year now, so its not like hes that new
    Watch the best movies on all one page! Song.Shang
    unfortunally, i can't open this link~
    Watch the best movies on all one page! mike flips
    dont worry, i cant either
    Watch the best movies on all one page! Kristopher
    The uppercase letters may have been the problem, but it worked for me.
    I have renamed it to:

    http://www.freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/bikemovies.html

    That should work.
    Golden Club Cirenco
    Comparto la opinión de SZ. Creo que PrayeR merece estar ahí, ahora tenemos la ventaja de que se van incorporando más juegos pero el nivel que también va mejorando y se hace difícil cuidar una medalla si haces público su video.
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    The new pack with 15 levels is ready (some levels are from this thread:  my idea for a new time trial pack - thanks for your help!)
    now i'm testing the pack on my local server
    then, if everything goes ok it will show up in the hall of fame.
    btw. do you like the name: "Sweet Fifteen"?
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Shane
    Wish I hadn't read this - 51,640 and I'm #27. Worse yet it says only 1975 completed!
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED Kristopher
    By the time I was #27, I had probably played more than that. It took me a long time to understand the bike's physics.
    Time Trial Champions PMD
    Sweet 15 sounds good. Looking forward to them. They should allow a lot of people to jump way up in the rankings over those that don't play much anymore. What will happen to the Total Race rankings? Will it be empty out until people finish all 15 (plus the originals of course)?
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I'm not sure of a better name, but I have a suggestion. Could we test the levelpack before it is official and suggest any changes?
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    This levelpack is going to be the next in the competition. Test it before it is too late

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    Mostly Harmless Sz
    trivial level for newbies, i hope it is long enough to avoid the bottle fate. taken from  XA Software LP 2
    Piece Of Cake Sz
    almost exactly  Piece Of Cake but the starting point was lowered.
    Jade Sz
    this is  Jude with a better name
    Iguana Sz
    the extreme  Iguana
    Olympic Rings Sz
     Ride the Rings, maybe the name should be changed to Olympic Rings?
    Tools Sz
     Control Lesson - Tools
    Sinus Revisited Sz
    this is of course  Sinus Mountains
    The Beach Sz
     The Beach
    100 Yard Dash Sz
     RFK.2.043-Rocket
    Love maze Sz
    a part of  Love maze
    Bounce Sz
     bounce
    Eruption! Sz
    psyco  eruption!
    Alien Sculpture Sz
     Alien Sculpture
    Braking school Sz
     Breaking school
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    here you are:  Sweet Fifteen

    total race will be empty after enabling the new levelpack. maybe i should create additional total race rankings for levelpacks?
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains JohnM
    Wow, nice job.
    Olympic Rings mike flips
    Olympic rings is much better, i only called it ride the rings cuz it was an olympic themed event
    Iguana mike flips
    i love this one
    Iguana Kristopher
    (This is my level.)
    Olympic Rings Kristopher
    No Olympic colors?

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    Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    I like it (because I modified the original Sinus Mountains to this), but I wonder if it is too similiar. I think Vega's hill jumping will be even easier on this level. And of course, it needs a differen name.
    Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Nevermind; I see the name has already been changed.
    Breaking school Kristopher
    There is a song for this level: "The Art of Breaking," by Thousand Foot Krutch.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    This looks great- a nice average pack. It will be nice to have normal levels after the big ones in the Summer Pack and the samll ones in the Newbie Pack. I think the worst levels may be Rocket and Love Maze, but I haven't tried them yet. Now to test them...
    Piece Of Cake mike flips
    i dont really like this level, reminds me too much of grand canyon
    The Beach mike flips
    may be a bit too difficult for beginners, i had a few people test it out and they couldnt get past the 3rd wave
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    konecnik in a weird way?
    Love maze mike flips
    We allready have jade, this is kinda similar
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    lotsa big levels that you have to go all around the map collected flags, a few levels are really hard, but overall its a pretty nice level pack, if any were to be changed before the official release, i think love maze, rockey, and piece of cake
    The Beach mike flips
    but its an insanely cool level
    The Beach PMD
    Way too difficult for beginners. They just won't be able to do it, let alone fast.
    Iguana PMD
    I like it too. It takes some control (not luck) to do it fast.
    Kristopher's game on Bottle Kristopher
    3 minutes of flips.
    Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    I like it.
    Love maze Kristopher
    No, it's more like the Retro level I almost put into the Newbie Pack. The similarity isn't a problem; I just don't really like this level. When these levels get to the Hall of Fame, we will have to play them a lot, and I don't want to play this one a lot. I think it should just be removed.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Mike Flips, don't forget about the other page of levels:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/levels.php?p=86&sc=0&so=0&lp=1

    Love maze Kristopher
    Retro is located here:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=548
    I played it a bit after I decided not to put it in the Newbie Pack, and decided it wasn't as fun as it looks.
    The Beach Kristopher
    Once you find the easy route, it turns out to not be a hard level. I only crashed maybe 3-5 times at the end before I got it.
    Kristopher's game on SinkInToDrinks Kristopher
    I think there is a way to get out of this pit.
    Kristopher's game on Bottle mike flips
    somone was bored

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    Love maze mike flips
    ya, it is really annoying,
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    i didnt forget, i just went out for a bit, lol, time to rank about these other levels...

    Bounce = impossible for beginners - I love it though

    Dragon Flame = i dont like - too much running around for flags, not a fluid,smooth level like most time trial levels

    Alien Sculpture = a nice fluid level,however kinda long

    Breaking School = again this is a tough level for beginners, but isnt horrible
    Kristopher's game on SinkInToDrinks mike flips
    i dont no what u were doing in there :S lol but when you get out of the pit, let me know because that would be awesome
    The Beach mike flips
    still it is too difficult, with any technique (such as jumping ever other wave, or braking with the rear wheel at the top of each wave to slide onto the next one)

    Sz, ill email you a modified version of this level that is much easier, it basically eliminates the beginning waves, and it makes the level smoother and quicker
    Piece Of Cake mike flips
    i guess its not so bad
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    i think most players playing this level pack will get to level 7 (sinus) and then not be able to move on due to being unable to beat levels 8-10,

    i personally think these 3 must be removed and replaced (no offense to the creators or you Sz)

    Piece Of Cake PMD
    It isn't too bad. I like grand canyon (because it is fast). This one is a little slower and I don't mind it.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen PMD
    Here are my thoughts on the level pack:

    I like the first 6.

    Sinus Mountain I am sure I will eventually be able to do fast, but for now, I can probably just get it done. Will take quite a bit of testing and trial and error to get a good time.

    I HATE the Beach. I did it, but not without a lot of trying and it is a very frustrating level. If I were a novice player, I might give up once I got to this level. Not fun to play.

    Rocket will probably be OK.

    Not sure about Love Maze just yet. Seems quite hard.

    I like Bounce.

    Dragon Flame I am not crazy about--reminds me of Cave Dweller--not flowing and long.

    Eruption I like.

    Alien Sculpture will be fine.

    Braking School I haven't finished yet, but I like what I have tried. I don't think it will be too hard.

    Overall, I could do without the Beach, but everything else seems like it will work fine.
    Bounce Ibanez
    Hey, I'm proud one of my levels is in the new pack - enjoy the stretching bike frame
    The Beach Sz
    now it is replaced by a modified version
    Love maze Sz
    i tried retro and love maze before choosing this one. retro relies on only one difficult jump (at least the way i played it ) and is boring otherwise... i like love maze better.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    i see that some levels will probably removed and/or we can rearrange the sequence, maybe my evaluation of the difficulty level is wrong.
    but please suggest some replacement levels, otherwise it will be dirty dozen instead of sweet fifteen
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Soy de la idea que NO deberían haber cambios , sencillamente para los jugadores experimentados y no solamente un levelpack para newbies. Desde hoy empiezo a jugarlos.
    Love maze Cirenco
    Personalmente me gustan este tipo de juegos ( no todo debe ser fácil) , pero si la mayoría quiere sacarlo habrá que aceptarlo.
    treo 650 and adding level packs Song.Shang
    "don't worry, just wait for the next release (soon!)" ~eagerly awaiting!
    ~and can the records be saved to the card after next release?
    The Beach mike flips
    Oh btw Sz, i meant for the starting point to be at the far left on the flat ground ( i put the other one in while testing)
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    Replacement levels for Love maze and Rocket:

    100 Yard Dash from MF Olympics = Perfect theme for time trial and also a nice challenge for all levels of players

    Gun from Kris' extreme files = really FUN level, requires good technique and handling,
    Mostly Harmless mike flips
    this is more then long enough to avoid bottle,
    Kristopher's game on Bottle Kristopher
    I was trying to cause that flipping bug I did in Shelf a few days ago.
    The Beach Sz
    oops! (changed again)

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    Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    Of course it looks slowly; you haven't seen me play it yet. I like this one. But if the three obstacles near the mid-left were removed, it would be better.
    Fenway Kristopher
    I got 17:04. IT's a nice level. And if you go really fast near the bats on the left, the bike goes right through them.
    Bounce Kristopher
    This isn't a hard level for newbies, I think. Compare it to Mount Kinablu, and it is easy.
    Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    True, but I would suggest making this level #5 or something, instead of #1. The first levels in each levelpack get more competition. If this is level #1, it just seems harder to get a good ranking.
    Love maze Kristopher
    My Yahoo translator used to work, but now the translated version still doesn't have Cirenco's comments in English.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    100 Yard Dash - in a way it is similar to rocket ("do it again and again and again..." and some people can probably do it fluently, so maybe it is better (than rocket).

    Gun - yeah, it's fun and i managed to complete it accidentaly but i think that experienced players would get more satisfaction from completing love maze than gun.
    Love maze Sz
    http://babelfish.altavista.com/ works for me
    The Beach Kristopher
    When will the flash pictures for these levels show up?
    BikeOrDie - X Kristopher
    These are nice, easier levels.
    For newbies, they make an easy, fun challenge.
    For the Time Trial, levels #1, #2, and #6 would be nice.
    If you want to add more features to your levels, don't forget about the custom bitmaps, invisable lines, and obstacles.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Try to have every other level be a hard one, so noone gets stuck in the middle of a levelpack.
    Also, I really like Siamese Y's because it is so fast, like Konecnik Down.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1208
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    The part near the bottom has to change. Currently, you have to switch to the Outline display mode and turn Full Detail off to play it.
    Love maze Kristopher
    You can keep it in if you want, and it isn't like Jade much, but you said "experienced players would get more satisfaction from completing love maze than gun." And only 1/3 of good players posting here like it so far.

    BikeOrDie - X mike flips
    only dirt jumps, black mountain is way too long
    Love maze mike flips
    its too hard
    BikeOrDie - X Kristopher
    It took me almost three minutes, but I got it on the third try.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen PMD
    I think Rocket is fine if you want to have a level like that. If you are looking for replacement levels, these are my two favorites from my level pack:

    Fenway - http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1345
    Has lots of different routes to complete it, which gives a number of different options for doing it faster. A new person could complete it. A short level, but not a bottle.

    Red Sox 1 - http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1346
    At first it seems like it would be long, but it is a fast level and requires good technique. I think someone could do it under 40 seconds.

    Other than that, I liked Mike Flips Bobsled Run and Kristopher has a couple good ones in his Extreme Level Pack (Angry Man, Jeans, and a few others). I haven't played any other packs for a while.
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    the 100 yard dash is much more satisfying, its a lot smoother than this

    this level its near impossible to get a smotth run and its also a really hard level to win at
    BikeOrDie - X mike flips
    3 minutes = too long
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    At the Golden Club, you keep implying that the former players aren't nearly as good as the current Time Trial Champions. That is why the Time Trial levels should continue to get harder. Difficulty shouldn't be a problem. There are plenty of other levels for the newbies. By the time they complete the Standard Levels and the Newbie Pack, they won't be newbies any more.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    ya bobsled is pretty nice

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    BikeOrDie - X Kristopher
    No, I think it'd be hilarious if there was a Time Trial level that took ten minutes to complete.
    BikeOrDie - X PMD
    Chandler and Black Mountain are longer for sure. Good technique will get them done a lot quicker. As with any level with some practice. Good suggestion Kristopher on using some of the other obstacles/decorations. SZ, when you have the next version with new features, are you going to put the level editor out there early, so we can build some new levels with the new features?
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    all im saying is that its really really repetative in a non smooth way, Kris if you are going as fast as you can (as if it was a TTC level), can you even get halfway down consistently?
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    Maybe i just like arguing about things

    For this level, i guess i want it changed cuz i had some people try it out, one who plays BoD casually, one who is around rank 100 and one who doesnt really play that much, and none of them could beat the first few drops, also this level is gonna be over a minute which is yet another pretty long level for this pack

    newho, whatever goes in, ill play but i think it would be nicer to have some faster 15-30 sec levels (like the right way, underground, riding school, and all those levels that we love and people like the best)
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    Probably not, but that is okay. The technique is easy to understand, and at least it isn't like Triangles.
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    Levels 3, 4, 5, 6, and 11 can all be done in under 30 seconds, I think. That's enough fastness for me.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Mention "Time Trial" and this forum gets active.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    you know it

    im going out so no more posts from me
    Braking school Kristopher
    It looks like a weird alien, but it is a good level.
    Love maze Sz
    maybe those good players haven't completed it yet, otherwise they would be satisfied for sure
    BikeOrDie - X PMD
    I have done Black Mountain in 1:45, so it is all in the practice (I think it could be done maybe 1:35 or better). It is like Cave Dweller (a level I don't really like for what it is worth). My time there is almost 4 minutes, but the the best is 2 minutes (true I haven't spent a lot of time improving my score--but you get the picture). I think 1:35 would be faster than the best score on one or two of the levels that will be in the new level pack (Breaking School, Dragon Flame). Yes, 3 minutes is too long, and so is 2.
    100 Yard Dash Sz
    replaced the rocket with  100 Yard Dash
    Angry Man Sz
     Dragon Flame with the bottom part made slightly easier

    edit:  Angry Man has killed the dragon
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    the new version awaits your comments...
    please please tell me that everything is fine and we can start The Competition
    Love maze Kristopher
    Okay, it's not really that bad. I don't mind it staying in this levelpack. It's actually quite original to the other Time Trial levels.
    Angry Man Kristopher
    Dragin wasn't a bad level, but thank you for adding this.
    Love maze Sz
    but seriously speaking, in my opinion one or two difficult levels in a pack is nothing wrong. "sweet fifteen" seems more newbie than "newbie pack" (or maybe i learned so much biking recently? )
    Angry Man Sz
    the dragon was "difficult without a reason"
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    Another Omaha Beach.
    100 Yard Dash Sz
    a lot easier than omaha if you go slowly my time: 50,18 at the first try (and it is virtually impossible to die at that speed). failed in all further attepts to speed up

    (shouldn't the finish line be at 100 yards, not 10 yards after 100? )

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    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Final minor suggestions:

    * Switch Mostly Harmless and Alien Sculpture in the level order. It is good too have most of the hard levels near the end, but not so many that it stops newbies from getting through the levelpack.

    * Change the colors in Ride the Rings. There are five colors in the Olympic logo. You could either omit black and use the other four, or use a winter color scheme.

    * In Piece of Cake, please remove the three obstacles near the mid-left. It will allow the bike to pass this part of the level faster.

    * In Alien Sculpture, I think this would be a better level with more routes if the two obstacles near the mid-left were removed.

    Looks great.
    Love maze Kristopher
    The beginning was annoying me at first, but now I have mastered it. If the competition continues to get harder thoughout the Time Trial, maybe future levelpacks should be even harder.
    BikeOrDie - X Kristopher
    Cave Dweller was hard, and you could die every ten seconds. For Black Mountain, since I could probably beat it 50% of the time going slowly, I do not think it is nearly too long.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen PMD
    You have my OK to go ahead with the pack as it is now. I need to work on 100 yard dash. My son can do it, but I haven't as of yet. I like the pack. It has a good mix. Some difficult, most fun, and good scores will take skill.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Any chance of adding this to the Time Trial in the next four hours?
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    the new version was just uploaded.
    changes:
  • removed some obstacles from piece of cake and alien sculpture
  • ride the rings is now called "olympic rings" and colors are different (see it on palm - there are more than usual 2 colors, it's a secret feature not present in the regular level editor however it is still not possible to make them look like real olympic rings)

    i won't enable the hall of fame until tomorrow (some things need re-checking after all these changes) but you can start playing now and submit later (make sure you have the most recent version of the pack, with "olympic rings" ).
  • BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher






    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Sz
    "big smile"?
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    lol sz that is true but i wanted the word finish i dont know why
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    and i havent tried for really really fast but i have 37 secs
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    Hey quick question, if we played some of the levels before and they are still in the same level number (like bounce is still level 11), would that be able to be submitted or only the New "official" version works
    100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    I have 40.xx. It's nice how easy it is to play slowly.
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    kris do you know the answer to my ques? ^^^^
    Olympic Rings Kristopher
    The additional colors in the sky make the clouds very artistic, almost as if they were painted.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    I am formally announcing that i have 45 new times for the other levels that i will submit soon - taking me to 4th place, then after the new pack comes out, assuming Alex doesnt play anymore, i shall be 3rd place

    ^^^ = my master plan
    BikeOrDie - Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    I'm not sure, but I think so. If the Java Sync won't upload them, then use the manual game uploader.
    Golden Club mike flips
    my final argument (unless i think of another)

    As Kris mentioned, you have to play the levels right when they come out to rack up a few golds to move up...

    All of the top people have been around for up to 7 level pack releases!!! therefore its in their favour and it would take new players years to be around for that many releases!
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Of course it favors former players; that was the idea.
    BTW, DavidKing has only been playing since May 2005, and he is #5.
    100 Yard Dash PMD
    My 9 year old has you both beat. He definitely has this one figured out. I don't.
    100 Yard Dash mike flips
    beat it again under 35 secs

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    mike flips
    before people can upload, Sz are u gonna make this method the new method?

    btw i like the "points" thing a lot, because in levels such as bottle, you can be ranked 20 but still have 98 points, so you can see that in reality its like a rank 3 and theres no need to really spend much time improving
    Golden Club mike flips
    k you win
    News Sz
    Scoring method changed
    Time Trial Champions and Levelpack Rankings are now calculated differently.
    In general, the new method gives more points to average players. Until now, only top 99 players in each level could win more than one point in a level. Most players only gained 1 point and there was no difference between players below top 99.

    Old method

    Under new rules you always gain some ranking points by improving your position in the level. First 50 players get 1 point a rank, and each next 50 decreases the points/rank factor by half.

    New method

    See also:  Improving the global ranking calculation
    Piece Of Cake Time Trial Sz
    ooops, something is wrong with this level, i'm working on the solution.
    Piece Of Cake Time Trial Sz
    problem solved! unfortunately you have to download the pack again. the problem only affected this single level, all other recordings made in previous version will be accepted.
    sorry for inconvenience...
    Total Race Sz
    i wonder who will be the first total race player now after sweet 15 is added
    Sz's game on Mostly Harmless Sz
    exactly 1 minute!
    Sinus Revisited Time Trial Thiago
    MY FIRST GOLD MEDAL!!!!!!!!

    LOL!
    Level Pack Names bb
    heres an idea... get the programmers working again, and make BoD so that you can put all level packs into a folder on the SD card, so that you dont have hundreds of files floating around the main memory... but that would involve the programmers to work...
    Level Pack Names Sz
    SD card - yes, this time it is really close, my current alpha version already does that so it will be in v1.4 for sure.
    Piece Of Cake Time Trial Kristopher
    What changed from the previous version? Anyway, I got 52.xx on the old level.
    Love maze Time Trial Kristopher
    Okay, I did it.
    Kristopher's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    I would usually jump to not land between the two hills, but I did the other way this time.
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    Sz, how exactly do the medals work for golden club? so i can submit in time to get some points for the first day of Sweet 15
    Sweet Fifteen Sz
    you have 2 hours and 50 minutes starting NOW
    (gold medals are counted at 3am local time)
    Piece Of Cake Time Trial Sz
    it does not influence the gameplay, i had to remove some decoration because of the old server software (this workaround was quicker than compiling AND TESTING the new version).
    Sweet Fifteen JHardman
    I'm doin pretty good for the first day...5 golds 3 or 4 silvers
    Sz's game on Love maze Kristopher
    There is an easier way to get through that small gap.
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    You're down to three Golds, but not bad.
    Kristopher's game on Bounce Kristopher
    I almost didn't die.

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    Kristopher's game on Love maze Kristopher
    Freestyling!
    Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Disfruten este momento porque le va a durar muy poco
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Yeah, I was #1 in the Newbie Pack for awhile, but soon lost all of my medals.
    Olympic Rings Time Trial Cirenco
    Me sale rejected? tengo 31,16.
    Kristopher's game on Jade Kristopher
    Ties? Already?
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    too bad u didnt pm me Sz, so Cirenco didnt know the cutoff, i lost 3 golds to him
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless JohnM
    Nice final jump. That first hill is a killer though..
    Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Tranquilo yo fuí lider por 5 minutos y usted me desplazó, así estamos a mano
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Cirenco
    Se seguirá bajando
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    We should all know when it is.
    Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Deberían haber fijado la fecha de salida un poco después, para terminarlo primero y así partir todos en igualdad. Pero igual me gustó el nivel y comparto los que se eliminaron.
    Thiago's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    There is no danger at the end. Why so slow?
    Braking school Time Trial Cirenco
    Me gustó este junto con love maze los mejores para mi. Es difícil la caída larga al final pero ya lo tengo casi listo. Creo que bordeará el minuto.
    Angry Man Time Trial Kristopher
    You can go really fast on this level.
    Sweet Fifteen DHD
    When I submit the recording of 2.Piece Of Cake,But show me:Your recording was rejected by the server (unknown level),Why?
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    The levelpack was changed within the last 24 hours. You probably have the old version.
    Golden Club mike flips
    no u dont

    remember you guys talked about how the older people didnt have videos and we do now so its easier?

    Well, now that we have vids we can all see how the level is done, and there are more players so everyone is attempting the same trick and therefore more people do it and get fast times making it hard to get a fast time

    IN the "olden days" no one could watch the tricks and it would take weeks, even months for someone to figure out what the gold medalist did and then beat it thus making it easier to retain gold medals for longer

    mike flips's game on Love maze mike flips
    cirenco, i assume this is your route too, but u just got it a little faster?
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man mike flips
    ill find out how u did this

    "the level creator strategically places a finish that can be gotten through the wall in hopes that his gold will be eternal"

    Braking school PMD
    First one done with the Sweet Fifteen.

    This is a very hard level. A couple of times I blew it below the finish flag. Both would have been faster times, but I am just glad to be done with this level.

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    Ibanez's game on Angry Man Ibanez
    This actually got me in the Golden Club
    Braking school Time Trial Sz
    good job, PMD!
    i will be struggling to join you in the total race
    Angry Man Time Trial DHD
    12 Angry Man£¬12 Angry Men£¬a name of movie£¬haha£¿
    Braking school Time Trial mike flips
    oh if we submit this we get total race?

    sweet i beat last nite
    100 Yard Dash Time Trial mike flips
    damn Dk, i just worked my butt off to get this level and tools back to first place and you decided these were the levels you were going to beat

    congrats, im waiting for you to get back to #1 by the way
    Total Race mike flips
    after these levels i wanna see some people under 1h total race
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I was so close to Gold.
    Kristopher's game on Love maze Kristopher
    Open.
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I think I am taking the wrong route.
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Since there were no movies to watch, it was harder to get a good time. You said that none of the former players deserved to rank above you in the Golden Club, but many were probably as good as you.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    Open. You will beat me eventually, so why not let you beat me now?
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    I actually went for the other flag.
    Golden Club mike flips
    no movies = you keep your secrets so its easier to hold gold

    i never said i should be above them btw
    Golden Club Kristopher
    You implied it, hee hee.
    The point is, the former players had just as much potential, but either played less or spent more time descovering new routes. There should be a way to remember them, and this is that way.
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    I'm leading again!!!
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture yaisword
    i don't know if mike flips takes this way but we take the same route!
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    Yeah, I can get your time with it at best, but not Mike Flips' time.
    Sweet Fifteen _alex_
    ok thats it im comign bak temporarirly xD
    Eruption! Time Trial _alex_
    oh ye thats wat imatalking about!
    my own lvl ^^
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture PMD
    That is the route I took. And my game has a lot of room for improvement. You are missing some ways to speed this up.

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    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I guess I'll have to try it again.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Cirenco
    Es agradable jugar esto porque ofrece innumerables variaciones ( vean los que subí
    mike flips's game on Love maze Cirenco
    Si, pero ya tengo pensadas variaciones así que bajará.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Wow, two hill jumps in one!
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Vega should play this level. You are doing his trick on the Extreme Version.
    Cirenco's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I know of at least two improvements to this level, and the end was slow. I think we will see 1:10 soon.
    Total Race Kristopher
    It won't happen.
    Time Trial Champions Lee
    Whilst I appreciate the hike up the ladder - how come I just jumped from 20th to 10th? - is just one level pack enough to put me ahead of the players that don't play anymore?
    Mike_68's game on The Well Mike_68
    no votes?
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    its the only way to play it kris, just takes lotsa practice

    shame i havent had lotsa time lately
    Mike_68's game on The Well mike flips
    ...and you think you deserve one because...?
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man mike flips
    my mistake, but im sure ibanez did that
    Golden Club Kristopher
    How are people ranked in a tie? There are several people with one day, and they don't seem to be sorted any order.
    Mike_68's game on The Well Kristopher
    It's sort of like my game but slower.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Only way?? It is not like my route.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    Yeah, I totally forgot about the possibility of a though-the-wall shortcut when Sz added this. Oh well, it is still a good level, whether you can do the trick or not.
    Ibanez's game on Angry Man mike flips
    the answer my friend is exactly 21 hours and 10 minutes

    Oliver's game on Touch Bricks Joey
    Dang, that was good.
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    kris you were only leading because i wanted you to lead
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Just wait until tomorrow; I thought I'd have to wait forever for some competition around here!

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    Ibanez's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    But it got him into the Golden Club.
    mike flips's game on Angry Man mike flips
    mike flips's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    It's done the 23 second way... okay...
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    lol the only way to get a gold lol thats the only way for me,

    this is extremely difficult Cirenco, congratulations, you are amazing
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    bring it

    Ibanez's game on Angry Man Ibanez
    Yep, I was hanging in there for the Golden Club - good to be a member!!
    Fantastic time Mike - you must have smashed through that wall...
    Time Trial Champions nbcl
    I jumped six places and I haven't even played any new levels
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    this is because of the new scoring method, see  Scoring method changed
    Golden Club Sz
    they are ranked in no particular order... i guess this should be fixed
    jasonb's game on Jade jasonb
    aaargh! this is so hard to get faster! i push it all the way!
    jasonb's game on Jade Kristopher
    The trick is more than just holding the accelerate button.
    Ibanez's game on Angry Man mike flips
    thanx Ibanez, sorry for takin ur gold
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    What do the Canadians know? It is done this way!
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    I out-medalled you, Mike Fips!! I just got four more Golds in this pack, and the Gold for being #1!!
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I am almost "King of the Weird Alien."
    Shane's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    How long did it take for you to get the flag by the tree?
    Kristopher's game on 100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    My one weakness in this pack.
    Kristopher's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    A slight change at the end.
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    give me one hour kris
    Kristopher's game on Tools Kristopher








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    Kristopher's game on Tools Kristopher
    Finally made that arrow in my comment small enough!
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Smiley Art


















    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Bing!
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    Bing?

    Ah i c, the hour is up, submission time
    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    more like the queen
    Smiley Art Sz
    OMG!
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... ZodiacfreaK
    It is very simple to do. That is why I don't want to show the video because anyone can copy it once they see it done. The trick is playing it 700 times to find the thing that makes it do that. And after playing it 700 times I think I rightfully deserve to be able to wait until someone else makes 800 tries and takes my medal. Do it on your own that is the whole point. Half the game is biking it skillfully, the other half is figureing out how to make it quicker. So how about you be a man, suck it up and learn to do things on your own.
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... mike flips
    lol
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... mike flips
    ive played at least 800 times and im sure many other people have as well, personally i think your score was a fluke...

    but we can end all these arguments in a nice gentlemanlike manner

    I challenge you to get another time that would get a gold medal, (6.86 and under) and submit it into the server

    if you can do this, then u really do know something about this level that everyone else doesnt, and if you cant it means it was a fluke
    mike flips's game on 100 Yard Dash mike flips
    damn so close
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    Should i go back to the other packs for a while?

    i already have a medal in every level
    RFKennedy45's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    Woot, Canadas moving up on the medals by country

    where in T.O. do you live
    Time Trial Champions _alex_
    my palm broke down:'(
    probably not allowed a new 1 for quite some tme so
    i cant submit much but wen i get my new one ill submit all the times i get and i hope to b around 5th place
    Kristopher's game on Bounce Kristopher
    Open.
    Kristopher's game on Bounce mike flips
    sweet run
    Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Hiciste un buen trabajo con tiempos muy buenos .
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... _alex_
    u look like a hobbit from lord of the rings (frodos frend)
    Bounce Time Trial Vega
    this level may not be difficult, but it looks like fun
    ZodiacfreaK's game on ƒlip that ƒlipper... mike flips
    LMFAO
    Smiley Art Kristopher

































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    RFKennedy45's game on Olympic Rings RFKennedy45
    Hey Yeah it didnt last long though huh

    I'm at yonge/st clair where are you?
    Lee's game on Eruption! Lee
    you know how it's done - now go do it yourselves
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Lee
    Kris, you were really fast though the top-left.
    Presumably by now, you have noticed that you can do an endo under the last flag to get it by now.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=63044
    Sweet Fifteen Shepsidude
    What the hell? I go on holiday, and Mike has a 15 more medals, i think ill throw him a party
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I think that was what I missed. Thanks.
    Lee's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    I knew it wouldn't be long.
    mike flips's game on Olympic Rings RFKennedy45
    Nice!
    Canadian 1-2!
    RFKennedy45's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    hell ya, i better be near the top i made the level

    im near Bathurst and Steeles btw
    Lee's game on Eruption! mike flips
    ya i tried this a few but never got it, i think going slow and steady will do the trick and im a more go as fast as you can kinda guy
    mike flips's game on Tools mike flips
    opened
    Sinus Revisited Time Trial mike flips
    I think this is the most difficult level in the whole pack to master
    RFKennedy45's game on Olympic Rings RFKennedy45
    nice I'm @ Yonge/St Clair
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    "Return of the Silver Medalist of the Weird Alien"

    Remember a few days ago when I said we will be getting 1:10 soon? Apparently, I was right.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    The new way to get through the ground.
    Kristopher's game on 100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    My wheels do not know what ground is.
    BTW, when you zoom in on this level, it is hard to see because the movie size is so small.
    Kristopher's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    The slow, third route.
    Kristopher's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    Standard route- open and fast.
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    This level is boring.
    (Just kidding. That will look funny with Mike Flips' comment )
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings RFKennedy45
    ya couldn't have let me keep that gold for more than a few hours huh
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    Or this way works too.

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    Kristopher's game on 100 Yard Dash Kristopher
    I started differently from Lee, and used more braking.
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    Nope, sorry. I have an advantage in this level since I am good at the Konecniks.
    Smiley Art Kristopher























    Smiley Art Kristopher
    The smileys are too spread out in Internet Explorer. Use Firefox.
    Lee's game on Eruption! Cirenco
    Utilizó la pared para alcanzar la última bandera, bien hecho.
    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    Again, i must say that its more like the Queen
    mike flips's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    im back
    Benoit's game on Jade Benoit
    Hate you and mike flip.... been number two for a whole week now. Desperately trying to get into golden club ...
    Benoit's game on Jade Kristopher
    Sorry.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Wow, I am still 800 points ahead of you.
    Benoit's game on Jade mike flips
    lol me 2!

    ive been working really hard too kris, cirenco, and DK keep taking my medals away
    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    fine ! silver medalist it is
    Ideas mike flips
    Incorporating Points into the Player Profile standing downloads
    Sz, i was wondering if you could add more to the charts available for download, so they can also say your total points that you get from the level, because for bottle, it says rank 28 but i have 98 points for it, so its kinda confusing cuz im actually good at the level but the ranking says im not

    Ideas mike flips
    Live Chat
    How about a new tab at the top called "CHAT" and it allows in which there is a large window, and you have a bar at the bottom of the window (like any messenger program like msn or icq or aol) in which you can type a message. Everyone logged in can participate in the chat and we would be able to chat about anything we want instead of posting only on the forums

    so it would be something like this

    Mike Flips says: Hey Kris
    Kristopher says: hey MF
    Mike Flips says: its a shame im beating u at Sweet 15
    Kristopher says:

    i think that would be kinda cool, and im not 100% sure but i think its easy to do

    Smiley Art mike flips
    :@
    Smiley Art mike flips









    Langolevel Cu do Peru
    Fast tracks!
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I'm not submitting now, but I beat your time.
    Live Chat Kristopher
    See also: http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=8461

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    Joey.'s game on Watch your head Kristopher
    Joey is another victim of the extra period.
    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    why me i worked so hard on that!
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I did too. The levels I haven't spent much time on are Angry Man and Olympic Rings.
    Criggie's game on Floors Criggie
    This is a crap time, but do you like the opening cartwheels?
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Criggie
    Dude - this happens all the time.
    Nate's game on Riding School Criggie
    Nicely done, but you can save time at the first bridge you cross, and at the turn at your first flag. Experts can also use the big bowl in the middle of the level to jump up to the second flag and hang over the crest which catapults them back the other way. You could save 5-6 seconds on your time.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Criggie
    Dude - noone is going to vote on a secret level. Consider making it public.
    Criggie's game on Floors Criggie
    This is a crap time, but do you like the opening cartwheels?
    Hund's game on Riding School Part 2 Criggie
    Nice wee rotate at the end, but you should be able to halve your time.
    Dave Linger's game on Sinus Mountains Criggie
    Seven? I count five - one on top of each hill, plus you start flipping just before the last flag but don't get more than quarter of the way around. Are you counting the upside down bit as another flip as well or something?
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Sometimes we checkmark the Freestyle option so our games will automatically be uploaded, even if they are failed. Then we make them secret with plans to open the games later.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    But this is the best one.
    100 Yard Dash Time Trial Shepsidude
    100 yard dash, = my first top 10 rank, i know its not hard as its a new level pack, but honestly, ill be getting better
    Dave Linger's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    criggie you realize his comment was from over 2 years ago, and he hasnt played since... lol
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    Mike, Mike, Mike. You only give me less than 6 hours to have some gold.
    Kristopher's game on Braking school PMD
    Except that Angry Man was your level, so you have to have had some insight in to how it could be done the fastest. Just as MF has with Olympic Rings.
    Cirenco's game on Sinus Revisited Cirenco
    Me equivoque al subir mis tiempos pero propongo Red Murder al freestyle para que voten si les gusta.
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Cirenco
    Sweet Fifteen Cirenco
    Deje de jugar 2 dias y todo cambia de inmediato . Creo que voy a tratar de mantener 30 medallas de oro si es que puedo.
    Angry Man Time Trial Cirenco
    Quiero ver este, no me sale

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    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    not really, lol, before the pack came out i had actually never beaten the level in under a minute, i just played it once to make sure it worked

    but yes, i get your point
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    sorry
    Bike or Die Chatroom mike flips
    i know about that, but no one actually uses it, if the same thing was done on the main BoD website, then people mite actually use it
    100 Yard Dash Time Trial Lee
    I like this level, but you have to be quick with the buttons.
    Try doing a bunny hop by wheelying, then tapping the brake before you get too high, this is the key for this level, I recon.
    Sinus Revisited Time Trial Lee
    I agree, this is the only one I haven't completed yet.
    There doesn't seem to be a softly-soflty option, and the "expert option requires a "leap of faith"... twice.
    ALD's game on Angry Man mike flips
    nice time
    Total Race mike flips
    under 1 h 2 minutes = amazing if anyone can do it
    Total Race mike flips
    actually not really
    mike flips's game on Angry Man mike flips
    we all know the trick, so...

    OPENED
    Lee's game on Eruption! Lee
    I recon than a second can come off this time yet, and it isn't too difficult once you get the timing.
    Henoch's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    amazing, u really wanted this gold
    Lee's game on Eruption! mike flips
    so open and ill try and get 16
    Henoch's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    Yeah. Just wanna enter the Golden Club please...
    Henoch's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    then you should beat a level not in sweet 15, cuz right now, i own this pack
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    I beat Cirenco?
    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    "The Return of the King of the Weird Alien!"

    I lost 2-3 seconds at the end. Under one minute is possible.
    Total Race Lee
    Yay! - I'm in! Nr 5, and falling...
    Kristopher's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    This looks much slower than RFKennedy's.
    Lee's game on Eruption! Lee
    There you go then Mike.
    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    This level plays with speed! If you can't get a good time, you aren't going fast enough!

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    Lee's game on Eruption! Kristopher
    And now we want to see Mike Flips' game on Level 1.
    Lee's game on Eruption! Lee
    Full speed?
    Shepsidude's game on Jade Shepsidude
    Well, i bet Mike Flipz i would beat him and steal his bronze o.O
    Lee's game on Eruption! mike flips
    turns out i didnt need it, i went into buffalo today and figured it out on my own but thanx for showing

    Kristopher's game on Braking school mike flips
    you can be king for now kris
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    36xx
    Lee's game on Eruption! Benoit
    Very nice, plus kudos on showing a gold medal game ! quite rare these days but always much appreciated. Impressive control at the top.
    Lee's game on Eruption! mike flips
    damn nice, now i have to play agian
    mike flips's game on Angry Man Cirenco
    Gracias MF
    Lee's game on Eruption! Cirenco
    Sabía que se podía hacer , pero no me salió. Felicitaciones.
    Lee's game on Eruption! mike flips
    i get 16xx so many times but i cant beat you yet
    mike flips's game on Jade mike flips
    but he wasnt good enuf
    Sweet Fifteen Gus
    Why does everything happen when I leave?????????????????
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man mike flips
    open up
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock Gus
    Ahem... opening...sorry to bring it up but I BLOODY WELL WANNA SEE THIS AMAZING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lee's game on Braking school Gus
    Pity bout the very end...
    Lee's game on Braking school Lee
    Thanks Gus, why don't you give me a paper cut, and pour some lemon juice in whilst your are at it?
    This is not a difficult level, but it fall into the "so long, I can't be bothered getting too agressive" bracket... plus I just wanted to get a "total race" time up.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    I only completed this level using the trick 2-3 times, so if I open, I will lose my medal. I found out how to break through the wall without so much flipping, so I was faster at the end.
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    A bit closer.
    Kristopher's game on Jade Kristopher
    It is a good thing that Benoit got into the Golden Club while he could.

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    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    I'm a Gold medal in "100 Yard Dash" away from #1.
    Kristopher's game on Jade Benoit
    "while he could" -> LOL, I might have to grab my bike one more time to silence such insolence although I fear you might be right ...
    Golden Club Vega
    Mike Flips - I believe there is something that you are overlooking regarding this whole Golden Club rating method. One of the things that seem to not sit well with you is that it will take so long to accumulate days. But remember the current leaders didn't accumlate those days overnight either. It took them years, so it's no different for anyone else. You seem to think that it's not fair because the other players were here first so naturally they have an advantage over newer players because the competition wasn't as stiff. There is some truth to that, but that is how all rankings in all games and all sports work. Records must first be established so that the next person can come along and break it some day. Maybe 2 years from now some new guy will come onto the BOD scene and obliterate all of the current records and wonder why we all sucked so badly. This is just like Mark McGwire breaking the homerun record. It doesn't mean Babe Ruth's 60 or Roger Maris's 61 wasn't amazing. For many years, it was the best anyone had ever accomplished. But just because Bonds hit 73 doesn't mean that 70 is weak. Also, the longer someone holds some kind of record, the longer period of time they are recognized as the Champion of that time period. Well, the Golden Club was meant for the same idea. It recognizes players that held the records for the longest time. And of course, they began BOD B4 we did. That would be like McGwire saying that it's not fair that Roger Maris was able to play in the 1960's era when baseball was "easier" because the records we not as hard to break. Same exact concept. I know you think a lot of the previous players were not as good as their recognition, but at the time their gold medals were achieved, it was the best of the best. Anyone who stops playing for 2 years or whatever is bound to lose ground in the standings. Anyway, I don't know if that all makes sense but hopefully it helps everyone understand the value of this club
    Kristopher's game on Jade Kristopher
    I'm hoping you will leave this level so I can have the Gold, and you can take a medal from Mike Flips instead.
    Kristopher's game on Angry Man mike flips
    i got 2250, i dont need it open anymroe
    Golden Club mike flips
    I think i understand Vega... you like baseball!!!
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    wait for me to submit kris
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    my golds are being picked off one by one
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    I can't get good times on some levels in this pack, so I am more playing to get medals now.
    Kristopher's game on Iguana Kristopher
    Open. I didn't do a flip at the beginning, but I rode the curve at the top right.
    mike flips's game on Iguana mike flips
    youre sposed to flip at the beginning?
    Shane's game on Alien Sculpture Shane
    I'm a bit closer too.
    Shane's game on Alien Sculpture Shane
    I'm a bit closer too
    Benoit's game on Braking school Benoit
    Very ugly but at least gets me in total race ...
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    hmmm, should i save up times or submit now?
    mike flips's game on Iguana Kristopher
    Not necessarily, but that is what RF Kennedy did. He had the fastest open game.
    Benoit's game on Braking school Kristopher
    So ugly it didn't show itself!
    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    Open.
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    *Sigh* Here we go again...

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    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake mike flips
    wild style man
    mike flips's game on Piece Of Cake mike flips
    indubitably Kris
    Sweet Fifteen mike flips
    you know it
    mike flips's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    I wasn't going to open mine until someone else beat me.
    mike flips's game on Piece Of Cake mike flips
    i have a slightly more controlled style
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    Damn DK you came out of nowhere, awesome time
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    wow, even faster
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    It's a good thing he did, though. I have 1:01:02
    Thaís's game on Downhill Madness Raquel
    You're the best!
    Henoch's game on Jade Kristopher
    I see you almost died in a few spots.
    Time Trial Champions Schneider
    I'm slowly steping my way up only 640 behind you now Kris. ...
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I remember when you were ahead of me; we were both just entering the top 50.
    Double-back Jumps Time Trial mike flips
    what is the trick on this level that lets you get under 21.8x

    is it the same as louis but just faster, or is there some random trick im missing (like using the wall on the right side to bounce off and gain speed - which doesnt get me faster)
    Golden Club Vega
    Exactly!
    Smalls's game on Eruption! Smalls
    Fastest without the trick...Yeah!!
    Smalls's game on Eruption! Smalls
    Almost Lee
    Smalls's game on Eruption! Lee
    Nice one mate.
    I may have to let you keep that
    I can get 16.6X pretty frequently now, but you must have hooked the top pretty nicely to get this time.
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I think I know what you did, but this is still a good time.
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    Hey Mike, could you get 35xx?
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    its possible on a near perfect run

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    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    i have no clue what he did lol but if he did the normal route really fast this time is possible
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    smalls, your really raking in the points,
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    maybe he cablecarred the first flag instead of going all the way down to get the neccessary speed and then flipped out like touch bricks
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I know an easy trick as an improvement to my route. Just go a bit faster at one part, and it is easy.
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    your ending is horrible and thats where the time was lost kris, my ending with ur beginning could beat this record
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    I know the ending is slow, and I am close to doing it the fast way, but it may still be hard to beat this.
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    that is true but ud come close, the trick is hitting the bottom right corner really softly so you dont bounce up, then smoothly accelerate and wheelie off the edge, and your bike will hit perfectly so you jump thru the air into the flag
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    i think i got it
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    It was the same thing I was thinking. I might get it tomorrow. I am close!
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    With the jump
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    Almost got 58.xx!
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    Awesome improptu route!
    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    Freestyling.
    Kristopher's game on Tools Kristopher
    That was close!
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    Vote!!
    Smalls's game on Eruption! Smalls
    I acctually tied you before I got this time, and I didn't want to settle for a tie, so I kept at it, and this time just kinda happened after a while.
    BTW I got 19.44 without going over the wall.
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    Just enough to stay ahead of you Mike...I don't think that I will ever catch Cirenco, sadly. If you tried I'm sure that I would get passed in a hurry. Thanks for the comment though!
    Shane's game on Tools Shane
    and then my palm broke...
  • anyone recommend a Palm with a robust 5-way navigator?
  • Shane's game on Tools mike flips
    Treo all the way, im insanely rough on my buttons and ive had it for quite a while, also it can be your phone and music player and internet browswer so its quite useful
    Shane's game on Tools Kristopher
    How did you do that bullet point? can ca an cn ?

    Anyway, my Zire 72 has played between 50,000-100,000 games. It still works fine, but the paint has chipped from the 5-way navigator. The Tapwave Zodiac is more durable for this game, although it actually doesn't have a 5-way navigator. I'm guessing the cheaper Tungstens won't last as long for this game, because _alex_ said they break a lot at his school.

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    Ideas MacGuru
    Shapes with Shapes
    I know, that's a really crappy subject but hear me out.

    I think it would be sweet if the images we can insert into our levels could have the option to become solid.

    If placed into the level as hollow, it would mimic the fuction we have now... simply adding a picture into the level.

    If placed into the level as solid, the basic geometry of the image would become a solid object that your bike collides with.

    Now obviously detailed objects like the trees and tiny flowers would not be complex geometries but it would cut down on the time needed to trace objects that you wish to become obstacles.

    Cool?
    Shane's game on Tools Shane
    Thanks Kris/Mike - have found a cheap almost new TE2 today, but I had a TE and that only lasted 6 months of BoD! but its worth a go I guess.
    Kris, the bullet point was an accident, I think I started a line with a dash and space or vice versa?
    -
  • Shane's game on Tools mike flips
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  • Shane's game on Tools mike flips
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    Shane's game on Tools mike flips
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    Shane's game on Tools mike flips
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    Shane's game on Tools mike flips
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    Shane's game on Tools mike flips
    dam i did it but i dont remember what i did lol!
    Shane's game on Tools Kristopher
    Shane, you can go to "Edit Comment," and then see what you first typed.
    Shapes with Shapes Kristopher
    If it is possible, yes, it would be nice. It should create ground-lines from the picture. It would take a technology similiar to that of another suggestion of yours:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=7510
    Roberto's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    this ending plus a jump at the beginning = gold
    Shane's game on Tools Shane
    dash space

  • Gus's game on Sawtooth Gus
    I said I had 21:10....This is an ugly game though. My original 21:10 was on alex's old palm which is now broken.
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    This level, I like!!!
    Time Trial Champions Gus
    I'm back in the top 10!! Yay!!!
    Gus's game on Angry Man Gus
    I love this level pack!
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    thanx Gus, nice run
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    Make more leves! I love the olympic series apart from step ups. BTW I reckon ess than 26:50 is easily possible so I'M GONNA BE TRYIN TO DO THAT.
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    dam i cant even get under 27.50
    Gus's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    I do too. I see the school gave you your (new) Palms back.

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    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    Looks like the end could be faster.
    jasonjerome's game on Me vs. The Gravity JohnM
    Luck, control of wheels, and sweaty thumbs.
    Tabs's game on Tools Gus
    Nice flip onto the hammer!
    Report a bug Shane
    Tungsten E2 controls
    After my Tungsten E died a week ago I have found a Tungsten E2. BUT the 5 way navigator only works 2 ways - up & down (accelerate & brake) even though the settings say otherwise. Have tried someone elses E2 and its the same.
    I can make balance left/right work with the calendar/notepad keys but its taken me a few months to 'master' this game with the 5WN and I need it to work that way
    Also how do I get my recorded games across to the new Palm? I copied them into the new PalmBackup file but got an error log saying deleted from handheld... archived. HELP
    Tungsten E2 controls mike flips
    if u hotsync a new palm with the same name and everything it should put all the old one's stuff that was on your computer onto your palm the next time you hot sync
    Tungsten E2 controls Kristopher
    I tried restoring my Bike or Die! recordings after a hard reset, and it was very hard. I had to search for them in "Crogram FilesPalmOne", then add the 500 recordings to the PalmOne QuickInstall. The QuickInstall is very slow, and took 2-5 seconds to add each recording. Now I have 1000's of recordings! I think you will find it easy to live without your old replays, since you should be getting better still. You can also search for levelpacks, although I keep a copy of all of the levelpacks so I don't have to search for them.
    Several players here have played fine with the TE2. Don't forget about the new feature that captures your key presses to set the controls.

    Tungsten E2 controls Kristopher
    Hmmm, this was supposed to be in my other post.

    bike.toyspring.com/img/otherkey-minianim.gif
    mike flips's game on Spiral mike flips
    worked it in TO
    Tungsten E2 controls Shane
    Thanks Kris - the capture key press has done the trick
    Total Race You Qi
    how to see the distribution chart? what's the number of players means?
    Total Race mike flips
    if u look at the full distibution you will see different time intervals (every 1 min 40 secs)

    The number of players on the side tells you how many players are in that time interval

    So for example, between the times of 1 hour 5 minutes and 1 hour 6 minutes and 40 seconds, there are 4 players which is why the bar goes up to 4 for that interval

    Gus's game on Angry Man Gus
    Sorry Kristopher I beat your gold on nicks palm. Hopefully he'll submit it soon.
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head DavidKing
    opened.
    Hellevator Time Trial mike flips
    what is the secret to this level..? anyone?
    Gus's game on Angry Man Gus
    Said I liked this pack!
    Sweet Fifteen You Qi
    just playing around some php scripts.

    A chart generator for Sweet Fifteen between me and Lee!
    http://autorium.serverfreak.biz/charts/bod.php?playerA=325&playerB=307

    you may change the player ID for different player graph
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings Tabs
    Class.
    _alex_'s game on Love maze _alex_
    well im happy i got so close theres a hell of a lot of mistakes though
    _alex_'s game on Angry Man _alex_
    5 tryies at this lvl
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    hey guys! I was just wondering what platform you all play on! I play on a treo 650...i was playing BoD on my buddies tungsten and there is a very noticable difference in the game play! I beat a lot of my records! it was much easier to play on his tungsten! seemed like it was in slow motion! LoL...thanks!!

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    Smalls's game on Eruption! Gus
    Damn man sweet time! You gunning for my golds arent you??? First bike o'clock, now this...just leave foothill alone will ya??? But seriously good time here!
    _alex_'s game on Iguana Gus
    What's this alex???? remember your promise 2 open it....
    _alex_'s game on Angry Man Gus
    Oh no you don't..this one's mine!!!
    DavidKing's game on Alien Sculpture Gus
    Nice ending!
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Same here JHardman... i play on a treo and whenever i play on my brother's Tungsten it feels like i have 20x more control... maybe i should switch? lol
    ventnor1's game on Bounce mike flips
    damn!!! 0.02 secs faster
    Time Trial Champions PMD
    Take a look at the specs of the Tungsten compared to the 650.

    http://www.palm.com/us/products/index.html

    Same OS, same screen resolution, same 5 way nav...200Mhz vs 312Mhz CPU.

    Makes sense that it would run a little slower.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    im playing on a 600 vs a tungsten t2 or t3... i forget, but either way, the tungsten is 10 times faster

    my theory for the reason that its easier to control is that the treo buttons protrude out a lot more then the tungstens, and therefore its a lot harder on the fingers pressing the 650, so the tungsten feels like there is more control cuz its easier to press

    BikeOrEvolve Sz
    Creator of this levelpack asked me to show this recording, made on  Dante's. enjoy
    well, maybe i will add the possibility to publish movies from unofficial levelpacks on the levelpack explorer as a standard feature? this would let the creators show the most interesting parts of their levels.
    Golden Club You Qi
    Well speech!
    Kristopher's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    So close!
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    Brilliant!
    Kristopher's game on Bounce Kristopher
    I guess this is a public level now!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    My Zire 72s plays as fast as the Treo 650; they both have hi-res and 300mHz CPUs. The Tapwave Zodiac is much slower, though. It is only 200MhZ, AND it has the hi-res+ display which is 50% larger. I switch between the Palms so the Zodiac still feels like slow motion, and that may make it a bit easier. But I have gotten many of my records in the Standard Levels on the Zire, and also, levels like Bike Impossible and Fly! are almost impossible on the Zodiac.
    ventnor1's game on Bounce Kristopher
    That happened to me, too.
    Kristopher's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    I almost got 39.xx while trying to beat this level!
    I think 37.xx is possible, with a perfect ending.
    Omi Kristopher
    BikeOrEvolve Kristopher
    Nice recording! Now we can't say it is an impossible level!

    Yes, Sz, as many replays as possible would be nice.
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    Hey, I was wondering how long it would take you to notice. Nine minutes?? Are you stuck with dial-up Internet or what??
    Sweet Fifteen Kristopher
    Nice chart! You can tell from
    http://autorium.serverfreak.biz/charts/bod.php?playerA=1769&playerB=2832
    that even though Gus and I are almost tied in this new pack, my best times are in the last few levels, and Gus' are in the first few. Also, I have way more Gold medals!
    BTW, the numbers are off by one. Level 1 is level 0 in the chart.

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    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    Well it was bound to happen cos there was a lot of room for improvement in my previous game. I would have noticed sooner were it not for the fact that I was completing alien sculpture in 58 seconds at the time. lol
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    Just got 26:96 here...curse you
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    This level is a lot like Konecnik, which is why I think I can keep my Gold.
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    I made it !
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    26:56 now...sry Kris
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    wait, Gus, Kris, go to the chat that Kris made right now
    http://www.network54.com/Chat/123571
    mike flips's game on Eruption! mike flips
    fastest game without going over
    mike flips's game on Eruption! Gus
    i have 18:76 not goin over. i'll submit it with my other times. it'll be p15 of my games online
    Omi _alex_
    xiolin showdown rox! xD!!!!
    Kristopher's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    I'm there. I'll try to stay there for a few hours.
    _alex_'s game on Sawtooth _alex_
    open for all the worls to see! =D
    plz dont spam unecesary stuff in my game as it was pretty to get
    _alex_'s game on Sawtooth mike flips
    nice run man, if i didnt screw up at the end of mine id still have gold
    Gus's game on Olympic Rings Kristopher
    You have the better ending.
    mike flips's game on Me vs. The Gravity Kristopher
    !
    mike flips's game on Me vs. The Gravity mike flips
    lol u noticed, i started my own club
    Tabs's game on Hellevator mike flips
    hey tabs, would you ever open this? or you Cirenco?
    Hellevator Time Trial mike flips
    i can get 38-39 but nothing faster
    Smalls's game on Eruption! Smalls
    I will leave that level alone because I feel bad about taking two of your medals...I didn't realize they were both yours. I like these super fast and short levels. I don't think I could beat you in that level anyways!
    Hellevator Time Trial mike flips
    neone?
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    Is there anyway you can "view movie" on a treo 650? I have IBM java installed on my device and I tried to install the midlet but it didn't work..maybe I did it wrong or it just won't work with that. let me know if you can! It would be cool if you could! thnx

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    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    do u have unlimited internet?
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i figured out the difference why everyone experiences different gameplay... there are 2 colour versions of the game, one is Hiresolution, the other is low... i always had low resolution so when i played on the other palm it was different because it was high, now that i got a new palm with high resolution, i put on the hires version and i cant even beat any levels its so different lol, but ill get used to it
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Java and Flash are different things, although they are both made by Sun (Adobe now, I think). You can't watch movies from this site on your Palm.
    I had trouble getting used to my Zodiac, too. At first I thought I would never get used to it, but it only took two days before I could start playing it.
    P.S. Doesn't the high resolution look so much better?
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    it looks better but the main thing is that it actually plays differently, i feel like i have more control now
    Time Trial Champions Ibanez
    Treo 650 - never played BOD on anything else, so don't know about gameplay differences.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    "Hi-res" is an option, so I can play without it. Also, I played briefly on an m505, I think it was. Low-res shouldn't change anything, although, you will see a difference if the framerate is different.
    Golden Club Smalls
    Vega gets gold for longest comment. I agree with him though. All that us new players can do is try to play catch up. It's kinda fun! Just one more challenge to strive for a better ranking.
    Shane's game on Tools Smalls
    I have a tungsten t2 that I have played over 125000 games on, and I have never has any troubles whatsoever with anything. I can email, browse internet, play mp3's, videos, and such. I like it alot!! Highly recomended!!
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    do u ever open your games?
    mike flips's game on Olympic Rings Gus
    Nice run
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Actually, my post is longer here; I think it is the longest.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=1874
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue PMD
    Of my 493 games online, all but 15 from only 5 levels are public. So I wouldn't say I am stingy with opening my games. I mainly want to protect my Golds. I only have 2 secret games from games that are not Golds. They are ones where I am developing a new trick. New tricks take a huge number of tries to get just right. I don't want all that hard work to go to waste right away.

    This level took me an insane number of tries (15,000) to pick up the gold again.

    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    Sry rude and badly judged comment on my part. Apologies.
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Kristopher
    I stopped opening all my games when people Alex came along. He hardly developed any routes on his own, and quickly got medals because the best routes were public.
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    I open all of mine because I feel that any new routes should be shown to create a challenging feel on the level. Sorry if I'm one of those mentioned in your comment Kristopher.
    mike flips's game on Olympic Rings mike flips
    thanx
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue mike flips
    i open my levels when i realize they arent open, and i only open when im not lazy
    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Gus
    I also open to show off my amazing talent at the level in question lol.
    Sz's game on Braking school Sz
    at last!
    Shane's game on Braking school Kristopher
    I notice you got the 3rd and 4th flags in reversed order from my game. I wonder if that is an improvement?

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    PMD's game on Vertical Avenue Kristopher
    But MF keeps Cable Car a secret.
    Gus's game on Braking school Kristopher
    An impressive start.
    Shane's game on Braking school Shane
    I think I had 1.11 the other way, so for me it works better this way!
    Benoit's game on Love maze mike flips
    damn man, you wont let me keep the gold on this level will ya?
    Benoit's game on Love maze Benoit
    lol, I could say the same thing
    Benoit's game on Love maze mike flips
    well, now that im 4 or better in every level, im trying to play some other levels to improve my overall ranking in other packs, so it may be a while before i get back to this
    Shane's game on Braking school mike flips
    nice, you beat him for me
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    Sz...Why haven't you made Bike or Die for Windows® Mobile? I think that you should if you can! Reasons why: #1- Because I checked out a new 700wx today and it was totally awesome and I want one! (but won't buy if I don't have BoD) #2- Because it would bring you more profit from Windows® users hence making you more money!! #3- Because it would bring more competition to the game. Think about it! Thanks!
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i think it would be hard for him to program it in windows... and y not just get the 700p, i wouldnt go for the windows one because it only recently came out and there are bound to be a lot of problems and glitches as its the first time a palm has used a windows operating system, stick with the 700p or wait it out until they have a 750 or something for palm that will have wifi
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Sz did say he will make Bike or Die! for PPC, but it probably means learning a whole new programming environment, plus customizing options for each handheld. (There are added features for the Tapwave Zodiac.)
    ventnor1's game on Bounce ventnor1
    Focusing on one level during an airplane trip works wonders.
    I did not even realize it was a gold until going online on my desktop a few days later
    DavidKing's game on Piece Of Cake Henoch
    Wow, nice run David, but can be better time with better ending
    DavidKing's game on Piece Of Cake Kristopher
    My ending is worse.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    id love to see this one day
    ventnor1's game on Bounce Jolemn
    Bret...you suck ass! Nice work!!
    Medals by Country Cirenco
    He vuelto y no cederé mi lugar en el medallero
    Cirenco's game on Love maze Benoit
    Nice, a new challenger.
    Smalls's game on Angry Man Jolemn
    cheater
    ventnor1's game on Bounce ventnor1
    Wonder how long this gold will hold out,....i think that Cirenco guy will beat it soon, he is very focused. In the mean time I have cut out he gold medal and am wearing proudly around the office. too bad only two other palm users are at work and they have never loaded a program other than bejeweled.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    PMD out-Golded me!

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    Smalls's game on Angry Man Kristopher
    "There are no rules; only what a man can do and what a man can't do." - Captain Jack Sparrow
    Cirenco's game on Congratulations! mike flips
    nice time
    Cirenco's game on Love maze mike flips
    lol
    Smalls's game on Angry Man mike flips
    lmao
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk PMD
    What happened to all your Gold's Kristopher? Last I looked you had 8 or so. I had been working on a few in the Standard Levels and I finally broke through on them. Here's hoping the Golds might stay a while.
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    I just wonder, how many hours u guys spend for Bike or Die a day?
    mike flips's game on Love maze mike flips
    opened
    mike flips's game on Love maze PMD
    Very nice. The medals must just transition slightly quicker on each uphill flag grab. It doesn't take much to be a second.
    mike flips's game on Love maze mike flips
    The places where it can be improved are:
    1) My transition from the second to third circle was not perfectly smooth and i lost 0.5 - 1 second
    2) The little flip to the bottom level and the not perfectly controlled landing costed me the other second
    mike flips's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    opened
    mike flips's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Yeah right.
    You Qi's game on Love maze Kristopher
    Benoit will not like this.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    I know, it is sad. I had six until Gus came back. I will have a fourth one soon, though. And I'm not nearly done in the new levels.
    mike flips's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    oopsie now its open
    Kristopher's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Wheelie!
    Kristopher's game on Tools Kristopher
    Freestyle!
    Kristopher's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    It was bound to happen.
    I think 25.xx will happen soon.
    mike flips's game on Love maze Kristopher
    I still think a faster beginning is possible. I'll have to try the normal now to get another medal.
    You Qi's game on Love maze You Qi
    lol, yea. I feel that was cruel to him too.
    I just snatched off his 1st goal medal within 12hours.

    but it was my 1st goal after more than half a year time.
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back Cirenco
    Tabs, en lo personal no tengo nada contra ti , lo único que hice fué defenderme de un ataque tuyo que consideré con el objetivo de debilitarme en el medallero. Entiendo que estés molesto pero mejor trata de conseguir medallas sin tener que estar obcesionado con las mías . Trataré de recuperar esta y ninguna más, pero si tratas de nuevo de atacarme solamente a mi te advierto que te irá muy mal. OK paremos acá.

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    You Qi's game on Love maze Cirenco
    Bien you qi , que bueno que estés de vuelta.
    Cirenco's game on Congratulations! Cirenco
    Gracias , creo que puedo bajarlo más pero ahora no lo haré , sólo cuando esté apremiado por medallas.
    Cirenco's game on Congratulations! mike flips
    i dont think you will ever really be pressered with your medals, you have too many!
    Cirenco's game on Hellevator Cirenco
    La diferencia creo que está en las 2 últimas escaleras, se puede pasar sin frenar. No lo he intentado.
    Cirenco's game on Hellevator mike flips
    ya, that is where the time is saved, theres a way to do it really fast, i havent gotten around to figuring it out yet either.
    Piece Of Cake Time Trial Gus
    I gotta 41:58 around somewhere...
    Kristopher's game on Grand Canyon Smalls
    This should be your freestyle!
    Kristopher's game on Grand Canyon Kristopher
    Sure!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I used to play at least an hour a day. Now, I don't always.

    BTW, I have had my products downloaded from Palmgear over 5,000 times!
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back mike flips
    i think he tries to get the medals back from you because before you came he had the most golds, and ever since you came you took away lots of his medals and now u have the most golds

    so i guess Tabs wants the ones back that you took from him instead of trying to get new medals on different levels, because he alreday knows that he is good at these levels

    good luck to both of you
    Gus's game on Braking school Lee
    Slow through the long drop though. Shame, otherwise 4 secs faster at least.
    Tabs's game on Catapult Back Cirenco
    Creo que sería mejor que jugara otros niveles y no se obsecionara tanto. Pero es parte del juego he intentare quitarsela denuevo.
    Upload to the server fails zeeboy
    I am having the same problem myself. I went back and smoked my old times on the built in level pack and uploaded the completed times to the server directly from my treo. The times I have on my phone that I have apparently submitted are way faster than whats on the server now. The frustrating part is that I can't send them in again. I'm being told the levels have already been submitted and that basically I'm S.O.L.
    Upload to the server fails zeeboy
    I'm such a tool! I accidently uploaded scores using the user name zee boy instead of zeeboy. Now I need to figure out how to combine the two sets of scores...any ideas anyone?
    Upload to the server fails mike flips
    just email SZ (support@toyspring.com or sz@szulat.prx.pl)

    hes the creator of all of this and he can help fix your problem, you just tell him which account you want to keep (the one with the space or the one without) and he will merge them
    Upload to the server fails Kristopher
    It has been a secret for long enough...

    Sz made a page for me so I could know exactly how many players there are. If you scroll to the bottom, you can see the newest players.
    It can easily solve problems like this, as you can see the new name (3687 Zee Boy) and figure out what happened.
    Also, you can see (3598 Joey.) and (3611 ctapocta.), which probably didn't mean to put the period there. This page helps find the problem.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/secret-page-for-kristopher.php
    Upload to the server fails mike flips
    Kris you are so cool you are my hero
    Cirenco's game on Wheel Insider Kristopher
    !!! !!! ... !!! ???
    Cirenco's game on Wheel Insider mike flips
    nice route
    Upload to the server fails Sz
    zee problem fixed!

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    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Cirenco
    Acá va el truco
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Sweet run! Thanks for opening it.
    Gus's game on Sinus Revisited Gus
    You can get 28 no jump easily.
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    It's about time we took advantage of the low ceilings!
    Gus's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    I could have been two seconds faster if I landed my first jump correctly, and I see no way to save two seconds on this route.
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    might as well open mine too
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    Yes, you should open!
    Gus's game on Sinus Revisited Gus
    Apalling first hill, average 2nd, hideous third. The rest of the run was good. There is at leat 1.6 seconds in the front three hills in my run.
    Gus's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    the key to a fast run is the final jump, which you, Gus, Did perfectly.

    good job
    Golden Club mike flips
    CONGRATS TABS!!!
    Golden Club Kristopher
    Yes, congrats on being #1!
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    And soon I'll lost my bronze medal
    Henoch's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    Well there is no secret anymore
    Golden Club Gus
    Great job Tabs!!!!
    Gus's game on Sinus Revisited Gus
    Thx mike. I was pleased with the final section, but like I said, I had a poor start.
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    Sorry, I got 37:00 yesturday. I wish I would have found the trick earlier.
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless Henoch
    Yeah, you should know it. :-p
    Cirenco's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    henoch, dont be sad, u need to improve your time anyways, im sure i can pull of a 35.xx
    Golden Club mike flips
    this scoring still favours the older players,

    being out for the release of any level pack is crucial to advancing in the golden club, and older players were playing back when there was not as much competition, and they could hold relatively bad times for a long period of time,
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    3rd time I've completed this level this way, and about the 10000000000th time I've tried!

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    Golden Club Vega
    there is only one thing that is crucial for advancing in the golden club......getting and holding gold medals no matter what level pack they are in
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    You are quite right mike I think there may even be a possibility of 34 seconds...but I'm not the one to do that...
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    u knew i had a 35xx so u had to go and beat it didnt u

    i promise u this gold will be gone sometime really soon, just so u know
    Golden Club mike flips
    VEGA, u finally agree with me

    the most crucial thing is the ability to hold gold medals. this ability is something that people in the past had a lot more of then we do now. There were so many less players, and far less competition. A gold medal now is like an A+ and a gold medal then is like a F---...

    if you dont believe me, look at this example...

    Rachman! (the great player who everyone says is really good, who is way up in the golden club) played competatively for about a year. you can see after the first year he started moving down in the rankings after he quit.

    I have been playing for half the amount of time that he played, not only have i beat his time in nearly every single level, i have spent time playing other level packs and have been successful at those as well.

    Look how high up on the list rachman is when clearly i am a far better player.

    if i could accomplish what he did in half the time it took him, and even play 2 times as many levels and be successful in those as well, clearly this is favouring the older players who had "the crucial ability" to hold gold medals.

    News Sz
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming!
    Download the first public beta here:
  • BikeOrDie-1.4beta1.zip
  • BikeOrDie - New Deal.prc - levelpack utilising 3 new gameplay features, described below

    New in gameplay:
  • Updraft (can work as an elevator, trap, create effects like reversed gravity, weightlessness)
  • Variable friction. Certain surfaces can be marked as "slippery" or "reduced friction"
  • Selectable number of mandatory checkpoints (can increase the number of different ways a given level can be solved)


    Technical improvements:
  • Ghost bike. Race agains your best recordings! It's almost like multiplayer
  • Improved map
  • Levelpacks on card. Levelpack selector can be used to move levelpacks between internal memory and card. When installing manually, place them in /Palm/Programs/BikeOrDie/Levelpacks
  • Recordings on card. Just switch to "Card" in "Recording Options" and all your recordings will be moved to external memory freeing a lot of space in your device. (The full exaplanation of this feature and its benefits would not fit here, i will describe it later)


    Bugs/Compatibility issues resolved:
  • No more annoying pause when dying (experienced on NVFS devices like Lifedrive, Tungsten 5, Treo 650)
  • Better power management (does not run on full power when not needed, eg. in pause, map)
  • Pause automatically when the device is turned off
  • Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    Roadmap from now:
    The server is not yet ready for v1.4 (will take few more days), then I am going to release the official new version and the "New Deal" will become the next Hall of Fame levelpack (perhaps with some changes).
    Of course all comments and bug reports are welcome! (here on forum or support@toyspring.com)
    Golden Club Kristopher
    If Rachman! was still here, he would be better than you, I am sure. That is shown in this ranking.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Wow!
    Looks very good; maybe I won't get a Nintendo DS for Christmas!
    I hope the upgrade process is easier for you than it is for Microsoft. When will the new level editor be out? If the beta version is bug free, will it be the final v1.4?
    New champions will arise...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    The ghost bike is totally awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's like I'm in a race, and it shows how much time I am losing to my record when I try just slightly alternate beginnings. The all-line ghost looks nice, and it isn't slowing the Zodiac down, either.
    Golden Club mike flips
    You missed the point kris, im not saying who is better, i am saying that my accomplishments in 6 months far surpassed his accomplishments in a whole year for the level packs that we both played, so the fact that he is way up on the golden club leads to the obvious conclusion that it was easier to get in the golden club back then and its harder now
    Golden Club Kristopher
    We play better now because all the good recordings are opened, and the tricks have been found. But they probably played just as much back then.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    The other features are nice, too, of course. And I see you fixed the problems with the levelpack names (Starting with BOD, B.O.D., Bike or Die, etc.).

    There's just one slight bug on the Zodiac. If you die and it says, "...Try Again," and you turn the Zodiac off, when you turn it back on again, none of the buttons work (except the home button will exist the game). So I have to use the touch screen to open the menu. It's not much of a problem, but I'd like it fixed eventually.
    Golden Club mike flips
    kris, because the recordings are open now, it is harder.

    Before, when the recordings were not opened, if somone found a good trick on a level, they could keep a gold for months and months, since there were fewer players, there was a small likely hood of it being beaten right after they got the gold so they would just keep holding it for a while...

    now, there are so many players and with the trick visible on each level, all of these players know what to do and how to get the gold and therefore the competition to hold a gold is much greater
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    this next level pack is really cool it completely changes everything,
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! PMD
    Sweet. You have outdone yourself SZ. I love it so far.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    IT IS AMAZING HOLY CRAP, at first i was skeptical because it will change the way classic bike or die is played, but after playing it, its really cool, i love how we can use the updrafts to do the crazyest stuff ever

    quick question, if this is the next pack would the times we play now be used? or would we have to wait until the full version 1.4 is out and then redownload the pack when it is officially a new levelpack?

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    and i love the ghost bike feature, although i can never catch myself its really sad lol

    what about the possibility of being able to download ghost bikes rides of other people's runs that have them open? just like a little tab that installs a small file to our palms that saves itself in the recordings sections. Then there can be a little drop box that lets us choose which recording to use as the one to watch.

    THis has 2 main advantages, for people having trouble beating their own time, or are trying to learn a new trick, they can try and learn off the better players on that level, they can watch the recording already so they mite as well be able to use it as the ghost of their choice

    the second advantage is for people who can not or havent yet beaten a level, who can they compare themselves to?
    for example on Die or Die or braking school or cave dweller, a lot of people have trouble beating the level, but this would provide them with some assistance
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    oh also, Sz, remember how i was asking about the earlier this week scroll thing, how about instead just make a link for "recent games" and it can display the most recent 100 or however many recordings that were submitted and maybe even what ranking those times achieved, so we could just click on the link and see what sort of activity has taken place over the last few days or weeks, or when a new pack is released, hours.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I have a proposition for the line-drawn ghost biker. The Palm can draw him faster than it can draw the normal biker, right? He is just lines, but the real biker also has bitmaps... So what if instead of a "real" biker and a ghost biker, there were two ghost bikers. Wouldn't this give grayscale Palms a better frame rate, because they could display each frame faster?








    -> Then there can be a little drop box that lets us
    -> choose which recording to use as the one to watch.

    There already is this option. Look at the above screenshots.

    -> The second advantage is for people who can not or
    -> haven't yet beaten a level.

    It wouldn't help much, because almost instantly, the ghost-pro (or pro ghost ) would speed off of the screen. It doesn't help unless you can go almost as fast as the ghost.
    Golden Club Kristopher
    -> Vega gets gold for longest comment.

    No, actually this is the longest comment:























































    Hee hee...

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    no no no kris,

    it would use the drop box feature, but would allow us to put onto our palms the recordings from other players so that we could select somoene elses run

    and second of all, i never said you had to download the best recording, someone who cant beat die or die for example could download the slowest run that is open, so that they would be able to play along with it, or a new player could download someones run that is 50 seconds long on riding school part one, also for people that beat it but without fast times, for example, somone at rank 50 could download a rank 30 game and their goal could be to beat that

    used in this manner it would be useful, and also its really fun for the pro ghosts to speed off the screen, i love chasing them
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Sz, some of these levels are insanely hard, have u beaten them all?
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Well done!
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Not mine again...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! You Qi
    nice ghost bike feature! I like it!

    This is an extremely cool update!!
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    you just had to do this...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Clay Serpent is now like a race track!

    One more bug, Sz; I open the map on the Zodiac by pressing the analog controller up. But it thinks I am pressing it twice sometimes, and it always does if I am pressing another key at the same time. So I can't open the map while I am pressing the "Accelerate" button.

    Mike flips: that is a good idea.

    I noticed the new levels are hard, too, but I think that is because we have not practiced them much. I was playing Anti-world for two and a half minutes, and then I died coming back down to the finish. But after some practice it should be easier. (And I beat Dome, which was tough.)
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Yep I did
    Smalls's game on Loop 1 zeeboy
    you guys are crazy...I think I know the club your part of...you distribute illegal steroids amongst yourselves to give your thumbs the unfair advantage you need to win, at least thats my tin foil hat theory anyway. zb
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    Excelente!!!! Se incorpora la estrategia y los cambios hechos me agradan.
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Cirenco
    Bien hecho estoy tratando de recuperarla , voy en 35,98 pero tengo una modificación leve haber si alcanzo los 34XX
    Smalls's game on Loop 1 Kristopher
    It doesn't take strong fingers to win; after a while, the buttons become worn out and will respond to the slightest push.
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Could someone please translate that comment for me as I am entirely useless at any language other than english and I sm sure Cirenco's comment will be worth reading.
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    http://babelfish.altavista.com/

    He hasn't given up his gold yet.
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    Thx that's a great website.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    Excellent Sz, I love the puzzle solving element these new features bring to the game.
    The Ghost bike is fantastic...
    I too get the keys not responding on my Treo650 after dying and turning the screen off.
    I would say the game runs slightly slower - but that's a good thing for me...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I didn't see a slow down; I'll have to try my other Palms. Does anyone else see a slow down? BTW, I remember v1.2f that would run twice as fast in low-res mode.
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless Kristopher
    Sz suggested it first.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    im running 650 and there hasnt been a slowdown, i can check a t3 and 600 to see if anything happens there

    kris, practicing helps some but the levels are still extremely difficult...
    what was ur time on dome
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Hey Sz, i was just playing the new version, and i went out of the game, then back in then out then back in, and when i came back in the second time it said... "This message replaces the standard Fatal Alert. The following information will help finding the bug, please send it to support@toyspring.com.... 'recording.c:437' "

    then i can choose anti-crash parachute or continue.... continue restarts my palm, and anti-crash lets me play

    what should i do!

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    after the restart everything worked fine again
    Gus's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    ill take it back sooner or later, watch out
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Do you get the error message everytime, or just once? I think I got that message once before, but I'm not sure.

    I got through to the end of the new pack and beat these, as well as a few in the first half:
    #09 - 0:31:84
    #10 - 0:24:62
    #12 - 1:03:24
    #14 - 0:57:16
    #15 - 2:02:44

    At first it did seem hard, but remember, you are used to being a pro, and now, noone is.
    It does make a puzzle of the levels, and I like it.

    I actually took an odd route for #15. I went down first and survived going up-the-draft. (That is new terminology ) Then I went to the top to finish.

    About the speed on the Zodiac: I was able to beat new levels #14 and #15 while playing full screen on the Zodiac with 160kbps music. Of course that has a low framerate, but it was low before, and is still playable.

    BTW, can anyone think of better graphics for the updraft? They are functional, but not realistic graphics.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I think it has to do with the levelpack data (not the levelpacks themselves), or the Bike or Die! data file. Is your play count still there?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! You Qi
    My time on Dome is 20,92.
    Cirenco's game on Braking school Gus
    I really hate you sometimes; I just tied your time!
    Gus's game on Braking school Cirenco
    Your route is better than mine, but your last part is bad. I believe that the best route is the symmetrical one to yours in the first part. I am trying to make it to go down the minute but it is difficult.
    PS: I hope to have translated well
    Gus's game on Braking school Gus
    Superbly translated and yes you are quite right.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    after resetting the palm the message didnt come back, my play count is still here, so nothing happened to the game at all...

    you qi im up on u by almost 2 secs
    Gus's game on Braking school Gus
    I just got 1:04:26 but can't submit from my pc!!!!!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    answers:
    1."recent games" would be easier for me than "earlier this week", so maybe i will do it that way

    2. your recordings created with this version will remain valid for the hall of fame unless:
  • something is changed in the level design
  • something is changed in the new features. eg. the updraft force could vary depending on the angle of the bike. this could be very useful for experienced players.

    3.grayscale ghost bike: i doubt we could gain any perceivable performance improvement here. but actually, turning the real bike into ghost is a cool idea for the new "easter egg"

    4.mike bug: according to the reported line number, it happends when starting the replay (which could be the ghost replay that starts automatically). the whole recording procedure was changed in this version (because of NVFS), looks like the new code is not perfect yet...

    5.other bugs: it also happens here, should be trivial to fix. (thanks for reporting!)

    6.downloading other players' hall of fame recordings: yes, this would be very neat, but i haven't implemented this deliberately, because it could help someone producing fake recordings. well, maybe my worry is not justified... actually it could be safe when the downloadable recordings were completely incompatible with the submission system so maybe i will return to this idea later.

    7.yes, the updraft does not look good one of my friends said it should look like hot air (ie. random distortions), but this is also not good, because usually there is only sky behind the updraft and noone would notice the distortions, especially when moving fast
    btw. this is how it will look in flash: TestUpdraftMovie.swf (maybe i should do something similar on palm?)

    8.of course i have beaten all these levels
  • Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    -> 3) Grayscale ghost bike

    Okay, I wasn't sure if this would make the game faster. What slows the game down the most in grayscale mode? Is it the math?

    -> 7) Yes, the updraft does not look good.

    It looks good in the flash movie. It would be a cool effect if the clouds could move vertically, but it might look odd because there is a straight, sharp line seperating the still clouds from the moving ones. Maybe you could use completely different graphics for the updraft, like rain or something. Or maybe just use different colors for the clouds in the updraft.

    I want to make new levels. I could make one where the biker is about to run into a car, and then floats above it, or where there is a pool of anti-gravity water and the biker can't get to the bottom.

    -> 8) Of course i have beaten all these levels.

    Yes, it just seems hard to us since we aren't used to losing so much.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    1. I figured recent games would be really simple. That would be nice.

    6. We dont really need other players' games although it would be fun, but if it would compromise the security of the games now, then for sure dont do it.

    7. Is the different colour updrafts different forces of updraft? Also, it may not look like realistic updraft, but it is perfect for what it is meant to do, show that it is moving upwards, and when the bike is on it its still really easy to see... its not horrible, maybe if u made it so that the updraft doesnt display over the out of play areas and only displays within the boundaries.

    8. Alll the levels are beatable, even if they are hard, i guess i just like going full speed and some of these levels require patience...

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    I've just managed to complete all the NewDeal levels so please don't change anything, I don't want to lose my times! But seriously, I don't think anything needs changing, the new features are great as is and the levels have a great mix of new features and skill requirements.

    The updraft looks fine to me, maybe if they were little arrow heads it would be clearer - but it's pretty obvious once you enter it.

    What's the eta on this going 'live'?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    btw - I have 18.82 for Dome...
    What do you have for Wet Stone?
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless Gus
    You pest!!!!!!!!!!!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    14:74 for Wet Stone.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    when doing turns followed in the air with the updraft an incredible effect is obtained, the 2 wheels are united and turn at a great speed
    mike flips's game on Mostly Harmless mike flips
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    And I thought my 15.16 for WetStone was going to be good...

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I played it several times because I think it is the easiest new level.
    Shane's game on Braking school Shane
    almost beat 1 minute
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! PMD
    I like the updraft graphics and really like all the new features. I say keep them as is. Seems to me like a very polished Beta.

    Looking forward to the new pack and will be interested to see how my times compare.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    -> I say keep them as is.

    The graphics could be changed later, of course.

    -> How my times compare.

    Many of the long time players can keep good times in the new levels because they mastered the physics long ago. But now that won't help them as much, and only the people who still play a lot will get good times.
    zeeboy's game on Underground zeeboy
    no credit to myself for this one. Good work to the bod pioneers setting the standard.
    Shane's game on Braking school mike flips
    is this all u do all day ?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    ya, when is it coming out?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    hey i just got the message again, this time, i just turned my palm on, and went into bike or die, and the first thing it said ws that same message. at the top it said "chunk overlocked"
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I tried moving the 700 recordings from my Zire 72s to the card. (Wow, I probably have like ten times that many recordings on the Zodiac!) It copied 62 of them, then said there was an error. It wasn't a low battery issue or anything. Maybe it should try once more before reporting an error?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    oops, i forgot to answer the level editor question: it is not yet released because it still crashes too much
    of course i'm going to fix this eventually, but it will probably happen after the official v1.4 release.
    btw. the new editor now includes the incredibly cool feature proposed here:  bike or design

    the server update is almost ready, so it seems i will be able to add the new pack to the levelpack explorer even before v1.4 is ready. but i think i should not put it in the hall of fame until v1.4 is really good tested, otherwise some people couldn't play it.

    updated schedule:
  • "New Deal" in the levelpack explorer (maybe today)
  • v1.4 beta 2 with trivial bugs fixed and improved error handling (this week).
  • official v1.4 and "New Deal" in the Hall of Fame (next week?)

    by improved error handling i mean we will be able to see what exact error prevented kristopher from moving the recordings to the card

    oh, and the funny thing posted by cirenco: the easiest way to see this effect is to play level 4 and keep pressing left (or right) while in weightless zone. after ~15 seconds you will turn into a black hole
  • Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! You Qi
    if you still keep on turning in the 'black hole' mode, eventually you will got ur normal bike back!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Tabs
    There's a slight slowdown with my puny little Palm IIIc
    but its ok.

    Also, how do you turn off the ghost bike feature.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kassula
    Hello, everyone.
    I know I'm new and (for now) far back in the field...
    But let me say that something that didn't happen on the old version is happening now (in the beta version) on my LifeDrive:
    It seems the button I selected for "forward" isn't disabled at the end of a game and (if it's kept pressed - which is necessary in same games) instantly gets me out of the BoD program, without saving the run on my name (it shows a blank "played by" on the "recorded games" window)!!!
    What could that be???
    Thanks, everyone!

    Kassuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuula!
    very very very soon, the first Brazilian on "total race"
    Shane's game on Braking school Shane
    No, I just like this level
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Tabs - In the Options tab of the menu, go to "recording" and just tell it not to automatically pick the best recording as a ghost bike

    Good luck kassula
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Bike or Design sounds great!

    I beat all of the new levels and got some better times:
    01 0:29:18
    02 0:37:54
    03 0:49:02
    04 0:17:62
    05 0:42:66
    06 0:34:42
    07 0:36:24
    08 0:43:70
    09 0:19:16
    10 0:13:70 (Even faster!)
    11 1:40:42
    12 1:03:24
    13 0:33:73 (Not Sz's route.)
    14 0:57:16
    15 2:02:44
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Vega
    Ghost bike will drastically change everyone's best times because we will all be able to see exactly where improvement is needed. We'll just make the adjustments and have nearly perfect runs. Prepare for medals that have been held for a long time to be bested. Also, the best times on each level will now have a much smaller gap. Replays will begin to look more like each other...almost identical... Just watch........
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Tabs
    Thanks mike flips.

    To be honest the ghost bike is putting me off - I'm
    watching the ghost bike and not the terrain.
    Its an excellent feature but it'll take a bit of time
    to get used to.

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    ...And it might be harder on grayscale, too.

    Oh, I remembered what I was going to suggest!!!!!
    You know how the ghost biker is all lines, instead of pictures? That would make it easy to enlarge him. And there is already a small version of the biker in the map now. So one thing that would be great, is if we could play while looking at the map. The bike is very small, but it is still playable. And then, maybe Sz could add a whole zoom feature to the game, that allows free-control zoom?

    BTW, maybe the updraft could look more like small bubbles going upwards? Just another graphics suggestion.
    BikeOrDie - New Deal Sz
    This will be the next levelpack in the Hall of Fame, after the official v1.4 is released (see  Bike or Die v1.4 is coming!)

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    i have just completed what was planned for today:  New Deal is now in the levelpack explorer

    live zoom: yeah, it is already on my todo list, but i decided it would be too much work for v1.4.

    updraft bubbles: worth trying (thanks!)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    From looking at the first four standard levels, which everyone has played so many times, the game looks fairly realistic with the ground, sky, and pictures.
    But the other levels are very unrealistic; Wheel Insider is not possible in the real world, and Clay Serpent is not intended to look realistic either.
    So while the bubbles or the current updraft graphics may or may not look real, there is no reason for them to look real. If there was some way to have the updraft twirl the clouds or make them move, that might be better.

    P.S. Do the demo players get to play any new levels?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Vega, it will help a bit but i think youre overestimating a bit too much lol...

    If you watch videos online it is pretty much the same thing, but since here we are only currently allowed to watch our own replays i'd say that the online videos are still more useful then watching ourselves play...

    Neways, i just beat all the levels, i think i have mastered a lot of them already, it took me a few hours to beat them all... its not that much of a different style a game... just now we can fly

    Nice times Kris btw
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    Will I need to reinstall the NewDeal pack before being able to submit to server? And if so will it wipe out my existing times?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    no, and no Ibanez, but if you do need to reinstall a pack, if the levels are the same it will keep the times
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    But currently BOD doesn't think the pack is part of the TimeTrial - how will it know? Isn't that a feature of the pack itself, rather than the BOD version, as it doesn't appear to connect to find out?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Vega
    Mike Flips - I think it's gonna be really helpful but what I am basing that on is the game Gran Turismo for Playstation. I used the Ghost replay feature a lot on that game and it helped immensely. Perhaps this will be different though because the times are so close to each other already (like within hundredths of a second usually) that the ghost bike will be right on top of the real bike for most of the run. At any rate, it will definitely help on the longer levels (like anything over 30 seconds) more than the short ones, especially levels like Cave dweller and Die or Die. I guess we'll see what happens.....Dun Dunn Duuunnnnnnnn!!!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Vega
    btw Mike Flips- pretty cool new graphic with the flipping bike and all.....how appropriate
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Tabs
    After playing the 'ghost bike' version of BoD on my palm IIIc I've come to the conclusion that the device is too slow, even in b&w mode.It runs fine on my Palm M130 but the screen lag is horrid.

    So I need to buy another Palm device - What devices do you guys use ? - what would you recommend ?

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Vega
    I use a Treo 650. I've never played on anything else.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I'd probably recommend the T|X, even though I have never used one for more than a minute. But the slightly older models are so much cheaper on Ebay; you might find the Zire 72s cheaper than the Tungsten E2.

    This one is probably the worst for BOD; it's half the speed of my watch and has 3.5 times the screen resolution, but look at it anyway:
    http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/alphasmart_dana_palm_powered_laptop_review

    -> Will I need to reinstall the NewDeal
    -> pack before being able to submit to server?

    I've never played any good times in the first few days, so I doubt you did either.

    -> Ghost bike will drastically change everyone's best times!

    It will help people get good much faster.
    Golden Club Vega
    Mike Flips - You brought up a couple of good points. Although I wasn't around when Rachman was breaking records, I will agree with you that most (not all of course) of his games are not nearly as impressive now as they may have once been. Rachman may have raised the bar in his time, but his rankings have significantly dropped since more people have joined. I play a little differently anyway...I am not so much concerned about my ranking in any levels. I just try to have absolutely perfect runs and am not satisfied until I know I cannot do better. It just always seems to land me a gold. It appears that Rachman and some of the other old timers did not play out the levels perhaps as much as they could have. But... to each his own ....right? Like I said, maybe one day BOD will have 10,000+ members in the Time Trials and it will be the same story for us..........
    BikeOrDie - New Deal _alex_
    looks cool! =D
    another gr8 pack SZ =)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    I have to admit I thought that when I suggested Ground Based friction etc I NEVER thought they would be implemented. You've TOTALLY out done yourself and added a WHOLE lot more that I would have thought for a .1 release.

    I can't wait for the level editor I am SO jumping on this one when it's out! (I'm already playing with the beta and Sooooo want to make my own levels with these new features)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    -> A .1 release.

    Programs such as Bejeweled and Medievel Heroes went almost directly from v1.0 to v2.0. And the owners of v1.0 had to pay more for v2.0!! I'm glad Bike or Die! is not like that.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    Never said it was... what I was making an observation on is that .1 increases in applications usually only include minor upgrades to things like graphics and bug fixes.

    I'm glad in this case it includes major feature additions like friction/gravity, ghost race, map upgrades and freehand level doodling.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Never said it was what? I quoted you.
    I agree with you, and most changes this big usually start an entirely new game, when this way is better for us.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Ibanez - im pretty sure that the server online which u submit games to, looks at the game and determines if it is a time trial level, for example u can try and submit your own levels or new deal levels now, but it will reject, but when the pack comes out as hall of fame, sz makes it so that game will be accepted... and thats why you can play now, as long as the level remains the same...


    Vega, you are absolutely right, on longer levels it will help substantially, but the shorter ones, not so much, i guess if Sz put a timer on the videos, it would be basically the same thing... but maybe you were right in the first place about downloading other peoples' videos...
    if we have our own videos as ghosts that is fine, because we already accomplished those runs, but downloading people in the top 5's runs on that levels would take away some competition and would call for more imitation and less creativity... maybe if there was a limit of whose games you can download, for example, you can download only games that are not in the top 20 or something...

    this way the downloaded ghosts will help newer/less skilled players beat levels that they may not be able to and can improve (which would give us some more competition)

    or maybe there could be a request feature, that could use the same kind of system as the messaging/voting system combined (to make it easier on Sz)... then you can request to be able to download the ghosts of peoples' runs and they have to click accept for you to do so??? but then again a lot of top 10 times are from currently inactive players...

    anyways, thanx vega... i like my new picture , i was bored of how it was but i wanted it to stay the same lol, so i had to make it into something new and eyecatching... by the way i drew that bike or die man in paint!!! lol

    Tabs - i played BoD on the treo 600 up until a few weeks ago... the 600 was a low res palm... and during the time when i played it i sometimes played on my brother's palm which is a T3 and i found that his palm was a lot easier to play on and i actually got some new times really easily on the T3...

    at first i thought the difference was the buttons, because the T3's buttons are a lot easier to press, so i assumed that was the reason, but i then realized it was because his palm was hi-res, and i found that it actually made a little difference to me... i guess it might have to do with the frame rate but who knows, all i know is it was easier for me...

    if you get a treo, be warned that the buttons are really hard on your thumbs compared to other palms like my brother's t3 because the buttons stick out farther, but once you work them it, youll find that its a good choice because not only can you play lotsa different games on it but it can be ur cellphone, your mp3 player, your personal organizer, and an internet browser... good luck with whatever you decide to get....

    Kris - i played a lot of good times in the first few days i only spent a few hours and i think i got some pretty good times ... i hate the level assymetric i just cant beat ur time ... your times are pretty decent for the first few days (although i wont tell you what mine are... youll just have to wait and see ... also nice times on six pack and wet stones, they are solid

    Sz - i got a new error this time and i figured out the cause of it...

    this error was at c.344

    it happens when i turn off my palm while BoD is running, so when i turn it back on the first thing it does is it goes into BoD... if i press the home button while it is loading BoD, i get to the home screen and can do whatever i want, but the next time i try to go into BoD it will pause for a second and then the error pops up... i hope that helps

    good luck to everyone in New Deal!!!

    wow i typed a lot
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i think ill get to 3rd place just so my display picture is larger
    Golden Club mike flips
    maybe rachman was famous because he showed all his games, and made sure that everyone knew he was the first one to show it.... like on mostly harmless i had the gold by over a second for a while by going off the ceiling but cirenco beat me and opened his game and people just assumed thats the way to beat the level, no one was like "wow!!! that was soo cool"


    now, cool tricks are just not as "wow" any more because they happen all the time, and only once in a while like PMD on Vertical avenue, do they stand out

    neways, u gotta start playing some more levels man!

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    Luzi82's game on Malysz Luzi82
    Everyone know the bug in Malysz, but I wonder how many would get that far...
    Golden Club You Qi
    Well, level packs released for hall of fame nowadays are not 'new' anymore. Before we have the 'Levelpack Explorer', people are so exciting waiting for a new hall of fame level out. and levels before that are way too creative. Not like these days happen to have only 1 or 2 routes. and... one thing you must know, rachman doesn't really share his replay once he got his medal! But ofcourse people are so tempting to see how he did it and very politely, he always agree to show his style! and always with something that no one able to think out that time!
    Golden Club mike flips
    i was thinking about that today you qi, the very fact that it took a long time for each new route to be shown... nowadays, i believe the players are better, and i feel that we are way more creative now than before...

    this means that within the first few days, all possible routes are already thought of... look at sweet 15, in every level, the gold medal way is pretty much the best way to do the level, sure there are lots of ways to do mostly harmless, love maze, and braking school, but the golds are already the best routes... back in the day, the gold medals, as vega said were not thought out at all and so every few months a "new route" was discovered that would have already been found out if anyone thought through the level logically

    you will see when the new level pack comes out, tons of creative ways to beat levels, and the fastest possible ways will be discovered in the first week... there are no surprises now because people today are just so much more creative...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! _alex_
    38 secs on lunar ice is best favourite =)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    alex u go right first and go down the first hole? then go up the hill on the left a bit, turn around and gather speed, go up the third hole and fall down through the middle hole? and up the hill on the left to finish?

    thats what i did
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    Alguien sabe el día en que se podrán subir los tiempos en el new deal. Ya no aguanto más
    Total Race Kassula
    All right!!! I got myself in Total Race!!! Kassuuuuuula!!! I guess I'll have to start working on my times now...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    i got lost in the translation Cirenco? are u saying that u think all your times are really good?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    im pretty sure between all the players in the current top 10, we will have the fastest possible routes in the first 3 days...
    Luzi82's game on Malysz Kristopher
    I've done that. I was trying to land it without dying at the end.
    Transporter Kristopher
    I got 24:96!
    Asymmetric Kristopher
    I got 40:16!
    Antiworld Kristopher
    I got 1:32:16!
    Smalls's game on Loop 1 Smalls
    It's pretty true, the button thing not the steroid thing, either that or we just don't notice ourselves pushing them anymore. After 100000 games, anyone should be good at pushing buttons!
    Smiley Art Kristopher

























    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Shane
    Very impressed with the improvements Sz.
    Levels in earlier packs that stuttered a bit on my TE2 are running smoothly now, although I need to be quicker on the buttons as the obstacles are arriving sooner??
    Have been forced to reset the device 2 or 3 times when switching between level packs after completing or failing a level, but everything has come back OK.
    New Deal pack is good too and most players should complete these levels without struggling too much (no ‘Parachute’ or ‘Cave Dweller’ here). My times don’t compare well with the others, but here goes –
    #1. 0:18:98, #2. 0:28:78, #3. 0:51:92, #4. 0:17:46, #5. 0:53:98, #6. 0:44:52, 7. 0:44:56, #8. 0:48:44, #9. 0:31:30, #10. 0:30:10, #11. 1:54:32, #12. 0:59:14, #13. 0:57:58, #14. 0:51:54, #15. 1:52:32
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    I have 4 times around 15 second and the rest walks by the 30. I believe that I have a pair of routes that are very good.
    Gravicorners Kristopher
    I got 15:26!

    BTW, you can spin fast and become a ball- and then spring back to normal without dying.
    Gravicorners Cirenco
    Si yo también lo hice, la cabeza forma una verdadera estrella . Es muy bonito el efecto y además se puede revertir. En pick five mantienes el efecto indefinidamente si quieres.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! _alex_
    mike, havnt ben cheking in a long time but thats not what i do, i prefer to keep this my secret as i am very proud of it ^^ just got 36:88 on it =)
    btw guys how r u so fast on lvl 1?? i dont wanna boast but im beating every1 thats told theyre times on those lvls but im only 21:42 in lvl 1 =(

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    well Alex, since your so fast what are your times!?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! _alex_
    i want to keep an area of secrecy so i wont b sprecific =P
    1) 21:42
    2) 26
    3) 41
    4) 14
    5) 39
    6) 38
    7) 34
    8) 32
    9) 20
    10) 15
    11) 1:30
    12) 36
    13) 32
    14) 38
    15) 1:37:42 (this is a disgraceful time but i hate this lvl so i wont try better for some time)
    The Beach Time Trial Gus
    just got 21:26! cant submit cos my hotsynch is buggered!
    Lunar Ice Shane
    Superb level and would be even better if I could see my ghost bike
    Alien Sculpture Time Trial Gus
    54:92 Here...BUT STILL NO HOTSYNCH! Oh well...soon I'll submit it.
    Pick Five Kristopher
    I got 1:05:72!
    Bigger Than Life Kristopher
    I got 18:30!
    Thriller Kristopher
    I got 37:28!
    Dome Kristopher
    I got 16:70!
    Antiworld Kristopher
    ...And now 1:24:52!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    I'm COMPLETELY stuck on Level 14. I can get all the red flags but somehow cannot reach the checker flag without being DUMB and dieing. It's sooooo aggrivating.

    Here are my approximate times on this pack. I know, I suck.

    1) n/a
    2)50
    3)n/a
    4)37
    5)1:30
    6)53
    7)38
    8)n/a
    9)28
    10)20
    11)1:39
    12)1:22
    13)n/a (how in holy hell do you do this one!?)
    14)n/a
    15)n/a
    Lunar Ice _alex_
    mayb having the option of the ghost bike being a deferent colour? i usually use a black bike so maybe a white ghost? =P
    Lunar Ice Kristopher
    It could be the opposite color of the sky, although it would have to be the opposite color of the ground for Wheel Insider.
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    how bout we can choose the colour of it just like we can choose the colour in bike or design
    Lunar Ice Kristopher
    That works, too.
    Antiworld Kassula
    Very badly executed, but (I think) a great route: 1:21:94
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    Update:
    This new beta version fixes all reported bugs, except for the problem with moving recordings to the card (which can now be diagnosed better thanks to the improved error messages).
    Download the new beta here: BikeOrDie-1.4beta2.zip

    Additional improvements:
  • updraft looks better (or at least it does not look like rain anymore, the new look is sufficiently abstract to pass as a wind, magnet force, dragon breath, etc )
  • ghost bike is visible on dark background
  • more specific error messsages when moving recordings to the card
  • new easter egg: "ighost"



    thanks to all who tested "1.4 beta 1"!
  • Gravicorners MacGuru
    How do you "un-ball" once you've become one?
    Sixpack MacGuru
    Anyone care to hint about the solution for this one? I'm puzzled on how to do this one as I can't get that one on the bottom right.
    Sixpack Sz
    here is the hint:
    TestUpdraftMovie.swf

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    Gravicorners Kristopher
    Start flipping in the other direction. It will take a few seconds.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Whens it going to come out???

    Hopefully we will have a week warning
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    i'm going to release v1.4 as soon as everyone who reported bugs confirms that their bugs are fixed in v1.4 beta 2, this could be even today, so be warned!

    yeah, i'm anxious to see how people are performing on new levels, too
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Don't woory, I'll install it soon. (I Hotsync on the other PC.)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    how bout next monday

    ill test out the recording over chunk error things tomoro
    and see if they still come
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    i liked the old updraft, now it just looks like lines and the lines are separated in a way that its hard for us to tell where the updraft actually begins and ends, i thot it was cooler before because we were actually in the updraft with little things all around us

    i didnt get any errors when starting the program, quickly exiting, then restarting so that is good

    as for the "ighost" thing... i turned it on, but it doesnt go off for me when i retyped it in, yes i pressed enter before...

    it went back only when i exited BoD
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! PMD
    I too prefer the old updraft--a lot. Can't say exactly why, I just do. Perhaps a config to allow the old school method.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    ya, the old one has us actually in the updraft and the new one is like we are in blurry lines

    PLEASE DONT RELEASE BEFORE THE WEEKEND
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    I initially thought the old updraft was better, but I do now think the new graphic is more suited to it, though difficult to see in levels like Draco. Maybe the colour could be specified in the new level designer.

    Type 'reset' to turn off 'ighost' - works no problem.

    ghost bike is definitely better.

    What's with wanting to delay going live, a week warning!?!?, we've already waited a week - go live NOW!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Shane
    The new updraft looks good, but on 1st beta it was possible to see the shape of each updraft effect more precisley, so was a bit easier to play.
    Anyway I'm with Ibanez - go live now, the suspense is too much
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    I've tested the crap out of the recent DL beta and have yet to cause ANY of the problems I had in B1.

    I just want the level editor
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    Stay the times when doing the changes with the version beta1 towards beta2 as happened before? . If it is thus they will serve the times kept in beta1 for the hall the fame. It worries the commentaries to me about beta2. Please somebody that has understood to me responds to me.
    Tabs's game on Iguana Gus
    Nice time
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    How about the option to chose the "rain" look for the updraft if you want. I know that on some of the older color devices ran fine with the beta 1 updraft look but bog down on the new look.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    Cirenco, if you meant can the times from beta1 be submitted to hall of fame even though beta2 is out, the answer is yes
    ventnor1's game on Touch Bricks Jolemn
    fag!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    There's still a problem, but it isn't really a bug:
    I press the Zodiac's analog controller up, and the map appears. If I release the controller instantly, the map usually disappears instantly. But if I hold the analog controller up for a full second, then it is fine and the map stays open.

    Another bug- I'm not sure if it was in the first beta or not. If you turn the Zodiac (or probably any Palm) off while the crashing sequence is going, when you turn the PDA back on, the sequence does not continue; the bike is frozen and you have to touch the screen to start over or open the menu. When the biker freezes in the crashing sequence, you cannot look at the map like you normally can after you die. This is sort of like the bug in the last beta that occurred after the crashing sequence.

    Updraft graphics... I'd suggest just picking one for now, and then possibly changing the graphics later.
    The first graphics didn't really look like rain that much, because the "rain drops" were all lined up, and there was no wind or accelaration to make them look like rain.
    The newer updraft graphics, actually, reminded me of our Tv without cable, like something is wrong with the vertical hold. If anything, the new graphics are moving too fast vertically.
    In shape, both of these graphics are lines. They look so unnatural. I think the rain would look better if the drops were randomly placed. Or if they were curved or something.



    P.S. I just found the hidden game in the Zodiac - wack-a-smiley.
    Live Chat IZodiac
    properly configed, yshout would be the optimal choice. loads in a second. only needs php. nothing else. nice control panel.
    http://yurivish.com/yshout/

    check it out we could use that. it would take a whole 2 mins to upload and integrate

    why not use this popup script too...

    function popUp(URL) {
    day = new Date();
    id = day.getTime();
    eval("page" + id + " = window.open(URL, '" + id + "', 'toolbar=0,scrollbars=0,location=0,statusbar=0,menubar=0,resizable=1,width=800,height=510,');";
    }

    peice of cake
    Level Pack Names IZodiac
    nice!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS IZodiac
    must port to ipod!!!! haha!

    come to think of it, if it was for ipod then you would be a millionaire in a few months dude.

    just too much to learn, especially since apple is so secret about thier iPod SDK...

    (i would pay $20 for ipod BOD.)

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    Cooler Bike IZodiac
    That could be changed in the preferences screen- if your game runs slow then you would change the bike to a simpler design.
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor IZodiac
    That would involve converting bitmap to vector, and if the converter is prorammed poorly that would mean running out of polygons in an instant. Coding a good vectorizer would be too hard. A java-based level editor that would dominate. Maybe someone has made something liek that that converts monochrome to vector.
    Graphic import on Lvl Editor mike flips
    ive used programs that do this for a graphing calculator (which is much much easier to program)

    basically i would draw a monochrome bitmap in paint or something, then this little program would convert the monochrome picture into a race track and would ask for a start, finish, and checkpoints, the black would be the ground and the white we could move in...

    The game was called MegaCar and it could run on my TI83+ graphing calculator
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Kristopher
    Don't be too sure... Palms aren't all that rare, either.

    I looked at some of the customer comments for Bejeweled 2 on the iPod, and they didn't think it was worth $5 (which it costs). I find it odd that iPod owners will buy expensive accessories, but they aren't too interested in games. The market may never come. I'm not sure, especially because Apple doesn't seem to be accepting developers like PalmSource does. I think Apple wants to stop the iPod from becoming a gaming handheld- because it is way too slow for most games.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    well, the beta 1 updraft was not supposed to look like rain, this was unfortunate coincidence and this "rain" looks more like something that could block you, while the new graphics depicts something powerful (thus fast moving) that can lift you up (that's why i like the new version).
    well, maybe the mix of both styles would create the Best Updraft Graphics Ever i.e. fast moving "waves of energy" with random small objects (bubbles or rain drops) slowly transported upwards...
    anyway, it seems there will be another beta with selectable updraft style if only because of the performance (as pointed by MacGuru).

    have you tried moving your recordings to card? you said it failed in beta 1.
    (at the time of writing this, i have just inserted my BoD card into Zodiac to verify the analog controller problem, made a high score on Dome (19,60) and placed the card back into treo. now i have my new high score on treo - isn't this wonderful? )

    P.S. hidden game? i know the smiley appearing after the reset but it is not "interactive"?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    I just moved 241 recordings to card no problem (Treo 650)

    I have seen the problem where in the middle of a game pressing the 'show map' button only flashes the map up then goes back to the game. It doesn't happen all the time though.

    Another just seen is when the show map has worked, pressing again to go back to the game comes out of BOD completely.

    Is there any reason not to go live for hall of fame now?

    These fine detail fixes should have no effect on this if the levels are staying the same.

    Go Live NOW is my vote! I want to see how everyone has managed to thrash my times...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    After moving all the games to the card I went to play the NewDeal level pack and it was like I was starting from scratch - no times! After a brief panic I set the location of games to the card and this has found them, however it no longer recognises that I have a time for level 1, which I started playing before I realised all the times had gone. If I go to recorded games it is still there, but the best time doesn't have a medal next to it.
    The recording option was set to keep the current level pack internal, but I hadn't yet played a game when I did the move.

    All in all, no big deal as I found everything, but I think something is not quite right.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Use [Ctrl]+[F] to search this page for "Easter Eggs"
    http://www.freewebs.com/zodiacfreak/ultimatezodiacguide.htm

    I tried moving the recordings again (I am testing this on Zire 72 because it doesn't have so many recordings), and got error "2A0E" quite soon, while it was trying to move the built-in levels.

    I deleted the Bike or Die! folder from the card, which was still there from beta v1, and retried moving the recodings... I am still getting this error. I think the error come before any recordings are moved.

    So now I am trying to move the recordings through the Zodiac. Only 2300 recordings? I thought I had more. It moved about 100 recordings before getting this same error "2A0E," even though this is a different Palm and SD card.

    (I am going to recording in the menu, selecting card as location, then manually moving to the card.)
    Asymmetric _alex_
    so 34.xx isn't a bad time then? ^^
    Thriller _alex_
    28.xx here xP
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    ok, so there is some progress, "2A0E" means "invalid filename", maybe there was a filename displayed in the error message?

    ibanez: yes it will go live very soon, i just wanted to make sure that nobody would be excluded from the competition because of v1.4 bugs.

    now it seems that almost everything is fixed so maybe tomorrow...
    (of course the "Bike or Die messages" subscribers will get the usual email notification)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    Gracias MF. I was accustomed to beta1 although it is necessary to recognize that estéticamante it is not seen so well for my is pleasant to play.
    Asymmetric Gus
    ha me 2 al
    Thriller Kristopher
    Asymmetric Kristopher
    I know how to do better, but 34 seconds would be quite hard.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    The Zire 72 says "/PALM/Programs/BikeOrDie/Recordings/Built-in levels"
    I looked at the card with my card reader, and the Recordings folder is empty. Either I did something wrong, or it is not always creating the folders when it should (each levelpack should have a folder). Maybe it is having trouble creating the folders?

    I looked at the card from my Zodiac- I notice it has a folder named "Standard"- is it using both "Standard" and "Built-in levels" when these should be the same thing?

    Here is what did get copied to the Zodiac's SD card:
    http://www.geocities.com/tzmne/temp/files.tmp

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Maybe the error is from the question mark in the levelpack, "So you think you can dance?"
    I am unsure on the order of operations. Does it make all of the folders before it copies the levels, or does it make the folders as necessary while it moves the recordings?
    I don't think all of the folders were made on the Zodiac's card- only some of them were. But the Zire 72 gives errors instantly, like it cannot copy any files to the card.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    yes, recordings from built-in levels go into "Standard" folder, but the ones made with: http://www.freewebs.com/kristopherwindsor/built-in_levels.pdb
    will go into "Built-in levels"

    but this still does not explain why your palm thinks this filename is invalid
    (i tried this levelpack and it works, recordings are moved to "Built-in levels" folder without problems)

    could you try creating such folder by hand?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    question mark is ok, BoD replaces this with underscore (just tested on "So you think you can dance?" )

    folders are created as necessary, so it won't try to create more folders after failing on the first file.
    Asymmetric mike flips
    dam everyone figures out the good tricks but i figured it would be alex and gus, considering their times on sawtooth

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    I have tried again a few times, but still get errors on the Zire 72. I noticed that, even though the errors come instantly, and nothing is put into the Recordings folder, that it still thinks it has moved 20 of the 600 some recordings (I have less recordings now because some got lost trying to move to the card. ). It will say "Moving 20/655" or something like that.
    How does the game know if it has moved any recordings to the SD card, when the game is restarted? Does it search the card everytime, or does it keep a list of the card files somewhere else? Maybe something got corrupted between the two betas.

    I'm just noticing in the file I mentioned in my last post:
    -> Total Files Listed:
    -> 104 File(s) 57,404 bytes
    -> 98 Dir(s) 19,939,328 bytes free

    I don't have 98 folders- I have much more recordings than folders on the Zodiac's SD card. It seems that it thinks there are folders on the card that aren't there?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Now I find on my Zodiac, using WinLauncher,
    BikeOrDie - Someguy's ~4EBC.prc
    BikeOrDie - Someguy's ~7BED.pdb
    BikeOrDie - Someguy's Levels [the bike icon appears here, so I think it is hiding the file extension on purpose]
    BikeOrDie - Someguy's Levels_Re [the bike icon appears here, so I think it is hiding the file extension on purpose]

    What are these extra files with the "~" in the filename?

    I think there are two different errors here:
    The Zire 72 can't write any recordings to the card (although it can make the Recordings folder)
    The Zodiac has trouble with a few recordings. I'm not sure why.
    Maybe the bad file names are reading the RAM and not writing to the card?

    Ibanez: do you keep Bike or Die! in your internal memory, or is the game on an SD card? I wonder why you do not get errors.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    recordings that were once moved to the card will not be moved again, this information is stored inside the recording file itself (on palm).

    in your case, "moving 20/655" (despite nothing is being moved) means that 20 files were already archived (but they were not removed from internal memory during move because they are from the current levelpack or they were created recently and the corresponding option is enabled - "keep in internal" in recording options).
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    i don't know anything about "~" files - BoD should not create such things! especially the prc is weird, BoD never writes prc files.

    have you tried creating the "Built-in levels" folder on zire? maybe the next error message in BoD would then say something more interesting?

    what is the error code and filename (if any) reported when zodiac fails to move the recording?

    the application location (internal/SD) is not relevant here (in theory of course )
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    "98 Dir(s)" issue: i think the "dir" output is misleading, it probably reports the total numer of folders on your card.
    Asymmetric Lee
    32.XX is definietly doable on this
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    -> Recordings that were once moved to the card will not be moved again, this information is stored inside the recording file itself (on palm).

    Bike or Die! has a single recording file, then, that lists each PDB and its location? This is what I did not know.

    Also, you can say not to move recordings if they are from the current levelpack. So then, if you change levelpacks, it has to move recordings to and from the SD card?

    I have created the "Built-in levels" folder, and loaded all of the recordings from the SD card back to the Zodiac. I have unchecked all of the boxes ("Keep recent recordings on Palm", so it will try to move everything now...
    Instant errors. On both Palms, I am always getting the same error code, with the same path. I do not get any other error codes.
    When I save a new recording to the card, it does work, but moving the recordings does not work.

    I suspect "recording file itself (on palm)" does not work right. (When I first tried moving files to the card, some were moved, and I was able to reload these onto the Zodiac fine, also.)
    Asymmetric Kristopher
    I see how to get the checkpoint fast, but not how to get back to the finish fast.
    Asymmetric mike flips
    the checkpoint can be reached in <15 seconds using different methods similar to those in sawtooth

    to get back, after getting the checkpoint, keep going up the wall to build speed for the way back

    if you get enough speed you jump from the far right mountain to the second last one, i think and it can be landed perfectly,

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    go live monday so we have the weekend

    ive only played these levels the first day or two they came out i havent had time to play !!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    by recording files i mean the "BikeOrDie_Rec_LXXXXXXX.pdb" databases, each file stores the information about its own card backup.

    so after creating the "Built-in levels" folder the message still reports the "Built-in levels" filename as invalid?

    and yes, in "recordings on card" mode BoD loads recordings from SD each time you change a levelpack (but it does not have to copy the current ones back to SD because they are already marked as "on card", there is only loading and deleting).

    perhaps you could send me all your BikeOrDie_Rec_*.pdb files from your device? i think the problem lies in one of the files...
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    more about the card support in BoD: (yeah, i should create FAQ section on this website!)
  • in "recording on card" mode everything happens automatically and there is no reason to use the "manual" buttons.
  • manual operations (moving to/from card) are meant for users who don't want to use card normally, but want move the recordings to card occasionally. these operations can be also used to merge several sets of recordings onto a single card or palm.
  • "move to card" operation moves all recordings (except for these already copied, there is a "card" icon in in "recorded games" when you click on such recording).
  • "copy from card" loads the current levelpack recordings (but skips the recordings that were already loaded).
  • from the above, we see that subsequent moving from/to card effectively does nothing and is always safe
  • current levelpack recordings are always present in internal memory when a given levelpack is active. "move" operation does not delete current recordings until you switch to another levelpack.
  • additional "keep in internal" options influence what recordings are removed when you quit BoD (which only happens in "recordings on card" mode)
  • "keep in internal: current levelpack" means that BoD doesn't have to load current recordings from card on every startup so it is a bit faster (especially with NVFS). you only wait a bit when switching to another levelpack while another set of recordings is being loaded.
  • "keep in internal: recent" - new recordings are not deleted for 3 days so you can still use hotsync and java websync or manual submission
  • and by disabling both options you can have completely BoD-free internal memory (except for application preferences) which is also nice in some cases.
  • Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    mike: i think most people here would rather say: "go live on friday so we have the weekend to play"
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    I believe David King could reach number one in time trial championship if he want to submit Jade, Sinus and Love maze.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Sz, I tried emailing my Bike or Die! files to you, but I get an error:

    <sz@toyspring.com>:
    195.149.226.184 failed after I sent the message.
    Remote host said: 554 mail server permanently rejected message (#5.3.0)

    It might be the 2-3MB ZIP file size.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Sz found the problem. It was the space at the beginning of the levelpack file name(s).
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    The last(?) update:
    BikeOrDie-1.4beta3.zip

    This one fixes the "invalid filename" bug (which only affects Kristopher's devices ) and allows you to select your preferred updraft style (new, old, or both!)

    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! PMD
    SZ, I like the selectable updraft/rain/dragon's breath. The combo even looks good on most levels. Not all though (Half Normal looks half normal).

    Everything seems to work just perfectly on my Treo 650.

    Great work on the new features/version!
    Henoch's game on Braking school Henoch
    Finally....
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    The updraft options are great - I now prefer the both enabled look.

    The show map button (Green phone on Treo650) still exits the game occasionally.

    No other problems found...

    Great work Sz

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Micha
    Hi Sz,
    thanks for the great update. Unfortunatly I still have problems with the blocking of the buttons on my device (Zire 71):
    1. When I hit the map button (in my case the task button) and quickly hit it again, BOD cancels and the palm switches to tasks. When going back, the level starts from the beginning. It does work, when I wait a few seconds before hitting it again.
    2. When I hit the forward button (in my case calendar) during entering the finish flag my device switches to calendar.
    Thanks, Micha
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    Kristopher: I have BOD installed on internal memory. No errors moving recordings to and from card, just the anomoly that BOD lost the times for the current pack(NewDeal) and even after I brought the recordings back it didn't know of a best time for Level 1. Now when I look in the list of recordings the best time(which I had previuosly done) doesn't have the medal.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    1. micha: "disable other keys" in "control options" should solve the calendar finish problem
    2. the other bugs are not yet fixed (quitting from map and losing the current level time when switching to the card). fortunately the lost time can be recovered by using the easter egg "rescue"
    Asymmetric Gus
    Lee, way ahead of you...I got 32:02 now
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    I would KILL for a level editor... *cough* *hack* *hint* *cough*... damned allergies
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! MacGuru
    oh and thank you for the option for updraft...

    You rock!
    Lunar Ice Gus
    Brilliant level and I love the multiple ways of beating it!
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    i think i found the best way... i just can not get it yet but i will soon
    Lunar Ice Gus
    ALEX HAS FOUN AN AMAZIN WAY BUT I AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCLOSE IT sry bout caps lock. I found a way that was good and got 36ish...32 is possible with my route
    Lunar Ice Shane
    I think I know the route, I found it a few days ago and have 27 secs. Also got 32 secs on another route. This level is the best in the pack
    Lunar Ice Ibanez
    I was hoping you all wouldn't find that route so soon I have 32, my son (AdamB) has 28. I think high 26 is just about possible.
    Lunar Ice Kristopher
    -> Sry bout caps lock.

    You sound much like the spam emails I keep getting!

    I personally don't like this level too well; maybe I will like it soon.
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    dam everyone found my way, i was hoping id keep it for long
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    what are ur ways people, i go left first...
    Lunar Ice PMD
    Left first.
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    spring the bike?
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Micha
    Thanks for the answer . "Disable other keys" is activated. The problem occurs, when pressing the calendar key a bit longer right after BOD has displayed the message "saving records". Micha
    Lunar Ice _alex_
    just missed a 25 wid my rouute =(
    Asymmetric _alex_
    and 31.xx here ^^
    Antiworld _alex_
    that slow kriss????
    1.o7 here ^^

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    Sixpack _alex_
    not my statagy and i ether have 32 or 36 xP
    Antiworld Kristopher
    I have 1:17, but I can't get much faster.
    Lunar Ice mike flips
    yea 25 is possible
    Antiworld mike flips
    holy crap 1:07??????????????????????
    wow
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Fill + Lines! That will get their attention!!

    I think you should release it now!

    P.S. I'm not sure why I didn't think of this before, but in the "Rec" Menu, a "Replay Best Time" option would be great!
    Time Trial Champions Kassula
    All right!!!
    I'm the new leader in Brazil!!!
    Kassuuuuuuuuuulaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
    bones's game on Underground bones
    anyone else think that is weird as hell
    bones's game on Underground mike flips
    nah, ive ridden the inside wall like that all the way down and then got out and kept going...
    bones's game on Underground Kristopher
    It's a bit weird, but possible on many levels.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    finally, the  New Deal online competition has started!

    your recordings created with the "not hall of fame" version cannot be submitted from the application nor java websync but you can submit manually from web browser. download the official levelpack to make sure your new recordins are marked as hall of fame compatible. ("hall of fame" levelpacks have a small blue marker in the levelpack selector)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    Excellent - my times are up, let's see if my golds can survive the night!! )
    News Sz
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun!
    The previously announced "Bike or Die!" v1.4 is ready!
    Download link: BikeOrDie-1.4.zip

    This version is the biggest update so far, adding a lot of gameplay features and technical improvements (ghost bike, updraft forces, slippery surfaces, external card support, and more!)


    Along with the new version, the  New Deal levelpack entered the official Hall of Fame (the first levelpack featuring the updraft and slippery surfaces).
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    sadly ibanez, i dont think you will keep one sorry
    based on peoples' posts of their times
    _alex_'s game on Asymmetric _alex_
    care to challenge me?
    _alex_'s game on Thriller _alex_
    yet again a good lvl ^^
    _alex_'s game on Dome _alex_
    fluke may have its own part to play
    _alex_'s game on Lunar Ice _alex_
    im ashamed
    _alex_'s game on Half Normal _alex_
    2 easy gus found statagy though
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Ibanez
    I know - I've still got hopes for Level 1 !
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Great! But I just tied Tabs on Konecnik Down; I need to beat him first!!

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    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    sorry ibanez, but i beat that, i just havent submitted yet im doing some work now

    damn alex, u just squeezed by in thriller
    New Deal Shane
    I have loaded 1.4 and the New Deal level pack - but websync shows Level not in hall of fame against each time . Can someone tell me what I haven't done?
    New Deal Sz
    shane: this is normal, all recordings played on the "unofficial" new deal are marked as "not for hall of fame". but you can submit these files from the web browser.
    Antiworld Time Trial mike flips
    thot u said 1:07 alex????
    Thriller Time Trial Lee
    Alex, man - I can't even get tot he end and back in that time - I have no idea how you did it!
    PORTING to Nintendo DS ackmondual
    Even better with the DS' dual screens, top screen always displays the map while the bottom screen, the action. Imagine, you can see your flashing dot move in real time as you go through the levels!
    PMD's game on Asymmetric PMD
    Good getting there. Not so good coming back.
    Competition against palms! ackmondual
    Altho I don't know of anyone else with a Palm AND Palm games, I do get a warm, fuzzy knowing I could potentially play head to head and knock other bikers off high cliffs a la' Thelma And Louise style
    Ideas ackmondual
    Stage select feature?
    Some of the levels can be VERRY frustrating. I have given up on several level packs either temporarily or permanently, and even taken long hiatuses form the game itself after spending months trying to pass a level w/o any hope.

    Someone here mentioned that you could use the level editor to either mark the levels as complete or make your own level packs with the existing levels such that you won't be forced to complete the more difficult levels from the beginning.

    However, I feel a stage select mode built into the game would be better. Let those with a competitive spirit play the game as originally intended while letting the rest of us with a curious mind explore the whole level packs. For the latter, a mechanism to play levels before clearing one of 2 previous levels BUT to keep high scores from being allowed oughtta give both sides what they want.
    PORTING to Nintendo DS Kristopher
    It's not a flashing dot anymore. v1.4!
    New Deal Kristopher
    I'm having trouble with my touch screen again. I may not be able to submit...
    But two Golds when I do!
    Thriller Time Trial Kristopher
    He probably doesn't get near the mine.
    Stage select feature? Ibanez
    Sounds like a good idea to me!

    I have used the level editor to play levels I can't get to or work on bits I can't get right, but I think allowing them to be played, but not submitted, until you've progressed is a good idea.
    Medals by Country Shane
    UK tops the medals
    New Deal mike flips
    wat golds kris
    New Deal mike flips
    Its a shame i havent had more time to play these new levels... ive been busy lately...but i managed to get a few good times... ill submit them now
    Stage select feature? Lee
    this is a great point - you paid for the game, but can't play the whole thing, just because you have difficulties with 2 levels in a row.
    I couldn't agree more - you should be able to play the lot, but perhaps not be able to submit a time, until there are no double consecutively-incomplete levels prior to that one in your saved best-times.
    New Deal Kristopher
    I lost my potential Golds already. I'm surprised you've beaten Alex so well!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    There are still bugs in the current version!

    As recently stated by Micha, the "disable other buttons" is not fully working. It seems to work, but if you do any "button mashing" and press several buttons at once, it will exit the game.

    Also, if you are playing a levelpack saved on the SD card, exit the game, and restart Bike or Die!, it will take you to the Standard Levels. So every time the game restarts, you must go through the levelpack selector to get back to the levelpacks on the SD card.

    Something is wrong with the sound? I can only hear the wheels- no biker or audience.

    Also, when moving the levels and recordings to the card, it seemed to lose my progress, and it doesn't think I have beat any levels now. Maybe the levelpack_results.pdb is misplaced?
    Stage select feature? ackmondual
    hmmm, now that I've re-thinked this, there really shouldn't be any reason Y u can't jump ahead to play and submit later levels. I'm guessing the vets and others who've made it there may argue they've earned the right to submit scores for those later levels. Any other reasons against this I may have missed?

    Either way, my original post still stands. At the very least, let us play any level anytime, if not compete any level at anytime.

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    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    y isn't there a hi-res option on the new version?!
    Report a bug Tabs
    Anonymous game.
    This isn't really a bug but I saved a game as anonymous
    and now cant load it into the hall of fame.
    Its not showing up on unauthorized games either.

    Any ideas ?

    Thanks
    Anonymous game. Kristopher
    This guy got your game:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=3
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Possibly because the low-res version is installed.
    Stage select feature? Kristopher
    If you're not playing for the Hall of Fame, unlocking the levels gives you a reason to beat all of the levels.
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    58.XX must be possible with this route
    Lee's game on Antiworld mike flips
    even faster than that lee
    New Deal mike flips
    hey... i try

    id be farther ahead if i had more time

    PMD - Congratz, you got a lot of great times, i hope u can hold on to them

    Good first day everybody , now we just wait for Gus and Cirenco to do their damage...
    Golden Club mike flips
    Vega, You Qi... and to everyone else...

    with the release of New Deal, it is obvious that our lengthy Golden Club debate has come to an end.

    Like i said to You Qi, the reason it is harder these days is because the players are much better. This has been clearly shown with New Deal.

    Look at the best freestyle game (rachmans spring or die). Back then, it was voted the best freestyle game because people were amazed at it. However, look at Lunar Ice. Almost 10 different people figured out the whole springing thing, something that in the past would have been a miracle, but now is quite common. Or Assymetric... had it been released way back then, the fastest time would probably have been 43 seconds at most. But there are so many players today that are creative, that 31 seconds is the fastest route.

    The golden club caters to those who played when there were no skilled players... nowadays, competition is very high and it is a lot harder to move up
    New Deal Henoch
    Sz, could you guide me how to submit from the web browser?
    Antiworld Time Trial Lee
    With fluid play on this, I recon that nearly as low as 50.XX is possible - it's quicker to go left at the beginning.
    New Deal Henoch
    I've already manage to submit it. Phew, my time was so bad
    New Deal PMD
    To submit your levels, you have all the info you should need here:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/submitform.php
    Antiworld Time Trial mike flips
    For sure Lee

    I opened my game, i went left first, to get that flag, and if i had used your trick at the far right, our times combined would be well under 1 minute
    Lee's game on Lunar Ice Tabs
    WOW

    Good stuff.
    mike flips's game on Asymmetric mike flips
    wasnt much of a challenge...
    RogueNine's game on The Right Way Luzi82
    I do think that flip is much more better...
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=12282
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains Luzi82
    I always crash on the ceiling when I am trying to do this.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    "disable other keys" - i will check the "button mashing" issue.

    what is your levelpack filename? it should be named exacly like the levelpack itself, so eg. "BikeOrDie - New Deal.prc" and not "BikeOrDie_-_New_Deal.prc" (moving the levelpack using the BoD's levelpack selector guarantees it has the proper filename). i think this could be also the reason of losing the results file.

    the sound was not changed at all in v1.4. maybe you are launching BoD from internal memory and your sound file is on card - then it wouldn't load the sound effects (solution: launch the game from card or keep the sound in memory)
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    Treatment to change the name of the package as you say but not admits it. The problem must be that I played only the first version that I make SZ.

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    Anonymous game. Sz
    yeah, i found it: http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=67345
    but it won't improve your ranking, you already have a better time on this level

    (but i will move this game into your account anyway)
    Lee's game on Antiworld Kristopher
    I tried getting the top left flag first; I guess that doesn't help.
    Lee's game on Antiworld mike flips
    yes it does kris
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    For the sound - could *someone* else try it for a minute on the new version? Does it work for everyone else?

    Filenames... I think the filenames are being changed when the levelpacks go to the card. I Hotsynced the first New Deal levelpack (unofficial version) into the Palm's internal memory. Then I used Bike or Die! to move the levelpack to the SD card. When I downloaded the Hall of Fame version of the New Deal, and put it on the SD card, it had a different file name. I may have put things back into the internal memory.

    installed in RAM:
    BikeOrDie - New Deal
    moved to card
    BikeOrDie_-_New_Deal

    installed on card
    BikeOrDie - New Deal

    So the file names are changing. But shouldn't the levelpack databases change names, too? I'm not sure why this is happening.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! mike flips
    I put the new sound and new version on my palm and everything is fine kris but i never played around with the card

    SZ hows the recent games section link thing coming along? !
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Cirenco
    I have “BikeOrDie - New Deal” and “BikeOrDie_-_ New Deal_Results” but now treatment to raise them and does not pass anything
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric Kristopher
    Slightly different.
    New Deal Kristopher
    I won't be able to submit my other games for a while; I can only manually submit from the Zire 72s' SD card now. It will take me a few days to get up there.
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Kristopher
    Maybe the sound problem is just me!
    Bike or Die v1.4 is coming! Sz
    filenames: i don't remember which beta version did that incorrectly, but the filename should be always "BikeOrDie - New Deal.prc", "BikeOrDie - New Deal_Results.pdb", and that's what the final v1.4 does. tested on treo and zodiac in "BoD-free memory" configuration (recording location: card, keep in internal: none). by moving the single card between these two devices i had the same recordings and results on both.

    oh, and maybe we should now move to the new thread as v1.4 is already released
     v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun!

    recent games: yeah, i remember, but the updated level editor will come first
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! mike flips
    FIRST POST
    Stage select feature? Sz
    blocking the levels is not necessarily bad (and it is a long tradition in games, isn't it?). by completing a level you gain access to the new, previously unseen area of the game, it is a "prize" that encourages more efforts
    Stage select feature? Ibanez
    Well after reconsidering I'm siding with Sz, it's actually quite exciting when you finally beat a level and are rewarded with a new level you haven't previously been allowed to play. Almost all games are like this - you don't get to jump to the last level of Manic Miner, or Age of Empires campains, or even Breakout - you progress through, and experience the adventure. Having it all available to you right from the start destroys the allure and challenge of discovering the treasure!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    I would like ot report a bug.

    When I'm playing the game, and I want to turn the Palm off, the game just freezes. Which forces me to do a soft reset, move the game to my card, delete it (so I don't have 2 versions of the game on my card).
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    I'll add to my report. After exiting the game, also crashes it. I exit the game (without crashing), and then when it goes to the card's menu, after about 2 seconds, the thing shows a "fatal Exception" error (Crash Pro, told me the error), and does a soft reset. this got with the other bug.

    I know there's a "Report a Bug" section but I felt it was better to post here instead of there, I think
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    Which Palm do you have? On my Palms, it just pauses when turned off. Then I can resume the game by pressing [down] or tapping the screen.
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Pretty slow, but fastest route, I recon
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Cirenco
    “Your recording was rejected by the server (unknown level)” I made the changes sz and me it rejects them equal. Also I changed to the version and nothing. Some suggestion?
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Cirenco
    Nate, I had he himself problem. My Palm is zire 31.
    Stage select feature? Lee
    interesting to read your opinion Ibanez, given that you are still working your way through the game, you are in a better position to comment.
    I just wonder if more people would be attracted to the game if they could play more of the levels and maybe see them on-line, even if they can't "compete" with those non-conforming scores

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    Lee's game on Pick Five Lee
    fun trick, but can't think what use
    Lee's game on Antiworld Kristopher
    I tried this but couldn't get so fast. I think the second to the last flag is the most important.
    Lee's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    Sadly, I don't think it has a use. You died at the bottom in 23 seconds, but I can get there in 16-19 seconds coming the other way.
    But maybe you can get the flag in the updraft without coming all the way down? I will try it.
    Kristopher's game on Antiworld Kristopher
    See Lee, I did it first!
    (Obviously I can do better. )
    Benoit's game on Pick Five Shane
    Wow! nice one - so I only need to halve my time for gold :p
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    I have a Tungsten E2
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Sz
    nate, thanks for reporting. you said it goes to the card's menu - so you start the game from the card. does it crash when you start it from the internal memory?

    for zire 31 i had to implement a different procedure for handling the buttons, sadly it was not tested after v1.4 changes. but cirenco, if you have tried v1.4 beta versions earlier, did they crash/freeze or is this behavior new in the official v1.4?

    rejected recording: send me the recording file by email and i will see what is wrong support@toyspring.com
    Lee's game on Pick Five Lee
    Kris, I got my best run by doing just that
    Stage select feature? PMD
    How about as a compromise, make it a 3 level window instead of 2. Sometimes there are two in a row that are really hard for someone and three would lessen that chance it becomes a block. Just a thought.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    yes I do start the game from my Card.

    As for starting the game from my internal memory, turning the power off while the game is running still freezes it. Exiting it, doesn't crash it, yet (and I stress the word "yet"
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    See? I tied!!
    Lee's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    Nice Lee- much different from mine.
    Kristopher's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    Okay, I found out why it crashes and does a soft reset. After I exited the game and hit the power button (to turn the palm off), that's when it crashes. It did it with BoD but it didn't do it after I exited a game I was using to test whether it was related to BoD or the operating systems. So the crashing is related to BoD.
    Lee's game on Pick Five mike flips
    of course you can Kris, that was the original way i tried it but i felt that i was losing way too much time getting the flag in the draft first... i thot that the time i spent going in and coming out was longer then the time i would spend going from the bottom right flag to the flag in the updraft... i wonder what benoit did?
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Kristopher
    Seems like we use very different routes!
    Lee's game on Thriller Kristopher
    You don't need all of the flags!
    Kristopher's game on Wet Stone Kristopher
    Different end- it also got me 13:70.
    Kassula's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    He got stuck!
    mike flips's game on Wet Stone mike flips
    opened - amazingly fast beginning, but messed up at the end

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    Lee's game on Thriller Lee
    MATE! - I'm so thick, I didn't even spot that.
    Cheers very much.
    Anonymous game. Tabs
    Thanks Sz.
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    It's easy doing ti the right way up, so there's no reason that I keep messing up the flag under the ledge coming home.
    Lee's game on Thriller Kristopher
    I didn't figure it out at first, either!
    Now that you know, maybe you can find the trick?
    Lee's game on Thriller mike flips
    no trick kris...

    use your route but instead of the second flag you got, get the last one that u skipped

    then improve ur beginning by 10 seconds
    Lee's game on Thriller Kristopher
    Really? When I tried going up without getting the left flag, it was very slow. I must try again.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Luzi82
    Waiting for Bike or Design with the new features.
    Stage select feature? Ibanez
    Increasing the levels allowed window would be a good compromise. In general the levels get harder as a pack progresses, so in some ways the earlier levels are giving the training you need to gat anywhere on the later levels, so skipping too many wouldn't help anyway. Of course there are some exceptions!
    Stage select feature? mike flips
    Ackmondual - using the level editor you can play these levels, and you can even rearrange packs so that there are never 2 levels in a row that are hard...

    however, i do agree with you. Most of the people commenting are people that play the game competitively and I dont think any of us have ever stopped and thought, "maybe ackmondual just wants to play for fun"

    If someone just enjoys playing different levels for fun, here is my idea, which i think would be really neat and easy for Sz to do.

    On the website, there could be a level pack creator. Each level from all the packs (and entire packs if you want) will have a little +/- button on it. They will start off all unchecked, and you go through all the different level packs and check off what levels you want to be in your custom level pack. When you are finished, you click done, and then from the database, it creates your own custom level pack with all the levels you have selected, and all of these levels will start unlocked. Then it allows you to download the pack / save it in your profile for later use.

    The fact that the levels are unlocked will make non of the levels be eligible for the hall of fame but this will let people who purchased/play bike or die for fun to get the most out of the game.

    it makes Sz happier because more people will play because this will add the "fun" factor and it makes people like Ackmondual who play for fun be allowed to play all the cool levels that they want to without having to go into the editor.
    Stage select feature? Ibanez
    I don't think there needs to be a distinction between playing for 'fun' or 'competitively', either way I say it is more fun if you have to complete levels before you can move on - it's that 'climbing the mountain' gives the sense of achievment thing, and in this case the fun and desire to do better - not just being put there.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! MacGuru
    ETA on the level editor??
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    What about an ETA on the Bug Fix for BoDie?
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    -> What about an ETA on the Bug Fix for BoDie?

    How would you calculate this? Once you find the problem it should not be hard to fix.

    -> ETA on the level editor??

    Tomorrow never comes, so it will be before then! I really want the level editor, too! (And we should have an official competition for the best levels. )
    Kristopher's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Surprise!
    Tabs's game on Konecnik Down Kristopher
    Amazing coincidence that the British won my first Gold back on our independence day; finally, America is free again!
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Lee
    I honestly think 11.XX is possible on this
    Lee's game on Thriller Kristopher
    Nice play- maybe different from Mike Flips?
    Stage select feature? Kristopher
    It's a nice idea, MF. Or maybe the players could download all of the levelpacks and have the option to play a random level?
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    -> How would you calculate this? Once you find the problem it should not be hard to fix.

    Hey, I don't know how to make progs for my palm, so I can't calculate it. And I really would like to turn off my palm after exiting out of Bike or die without it crashing, and I really would like to turn my palm off while I'm playing BoD with out the Palm freezing.
    Lee's game on Thriller mike flips
    same im just faster

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    mike flips's game on Gravicorners mike flips
    OPENED - ENJOY AND LEARN
    Benoit's game on Pick Five Henoch
    Yeah, Benoit rules I could only get 1:35 something and then my treo has to shut down because the battery has run down before I could touch the OK button to save.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Borszczuk
    I moved all recording to card, and disabled keeping anything in internal memory. Is it normal that now I am unable to access any recordings via "rec -> recorded games"?
    mike flips's game on Gravicorners Shane
    Mike, its still secret
    mike flips's game on Gravicorners mike flips
    oops musta clicked 2 times, now its open
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! MacGuru
    Borszczuk, I had the same problem. Here's how to fix it.

    Recording Options:
    Location: Card
    But Keep the following in Internal: (check)Current Levelpack Recordings.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! MacGuru
    Doing that I can now locate the recorded levels from my latest hotsynch if I load up the level pack I want to upload then hotsync my Palm.
    Kristopher's game on Gravicorners Kristopher
    Same as MF, but no going backwards first.
    Ibanez's game on Gravicorners Ibanez
    I go clockwise!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Borszczuk
    another bug: I moved all levels to card. So on each start BoD "loads" built-in leves instead of my last chosen level pack (probably it looks for in in RAM only)
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Borszczuk
    Another issue: I mapped "Map" to Mail key on my treo. It usually works ok (so it switch to map and back), but I am able, by rapidly pressing mail, to make PalmOS call app that is assigned to this key (SMS). And boom. My game is over (as BoD still does not snapshot the game in progress on exit
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    I can now use the Java sync to submit straight from the SD card!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    Borszczuk, I have seen both of those last two errors, too.
    Kristopher's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    Freestyle of the month!! I want to land this right!
    PMD's game on Gravicorners PMD
    And yet another way to do it.
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    AT LAST congratssss
    Kristopher's game on Pick Five mike flips
    cooool
    Ibanez's game on Gravicorners Lee
    this is my route, just smoother - I managed to hug the wall most of the way round
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners AnOnOmAss
    Just wanted to see what happened if i spun for a while
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Still messed up the flag under the top platform - 2 secs to come off this yet

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    Lee's game on Transporter Lee
    opened
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    open
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Lee
    open
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Ibanez
    Excellent - yours looks so elegant compared to my out of control panic!!
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Lee
    with a better bounce at the end, I could have knocked half a second off
    DavidKing's game on Wet Stone mike flips
    you havent given up yet !!!
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners mike flips
    never fails to amuse me
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Still not full speed.
    50.XX here I come
    Competition against palms! Strider VC
    Or even two players agains each other and seeing the other player as a ghost would be nice. Then you could have a good old fashioned race
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Sz
    map problem: i know the cause, will be fixed soon

    recording on card: like MacGuru said, you should select "location:card" if you keep your recordings on card. otherwise you could load them by hand in "recording options". "keep in internal" allows you to hotsync the recordings as usual and also speeds up the startup time on NVFS devices (otherwise the recordings must be loaded each time, which creates a lot of palm databases and NVFS does not like it)

    levelpacks on card: BoD loads the previously played levelpack from card, but the levelpack file must match the palm database name (+prc). regrettably, the levelpack explorer downloadable files still have "bad" names (spaces replaced by underscore, etc.) and this would cause problems when installing directly on card. moving the levelpack to the internal memory and back should help (i mean in the levelpack selector).

    level editor: will be ready this week

    zire 31 crash: unfortunately, i still don't know why this happens but of course i won't give up!
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners Vega
    Yah I know Mike. I mean...this is pretty cool and all, but everyone who submits a flip til implode thinks they are the first to do it or something. I guess this discovery will just be a never ending wonder for newcomers. If this has 6 true votes, I guess the people who voted for it just don't know that it's already in the freestyle comp.
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners mike flips
    i doubt they are true, i remember his name on the new players scrolling thing at the bottom, and there were quite a few different variations on his name that were probably used for these votes
    Competition against palms! Lee
    Presumably, if someone sends you their prc of a level, you can now get it onto your palm, and pick it as the ghost to ride against in recorded games - Select as ghost.
    At least you can do this to select a game other than your fastest time to race against, if you had a perfect run, except for a crash near the end, say.
    Laser's game on Half Normal Laser
    i could definitely shave off a few seconds
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Repeat this flukey landing twice for a time under 48 secs (<24 secs to the 4th Flag)
    New Deal bjtj
    DOWNLOAD TROUBLE... I can only play the bike or die logo with no flags,none of these levels come up. what's wrong with me?
    Benoit's game on Pick Five Lee
    I think I found your route Ben
    Lee's game on Pick Five Ibanez
    I like that - v creative!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    Well, thanks for the update, Sz, hopefully I'll be able to play BoD without the Game freezing or the palm crashing.

    Thank God I don't use my Zire 31 much anymore.
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners Shane
    wow - move over rachman! !

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    Sleeps With The Fishes Time Trial Gus
    Happy days...kinda..14:94 but still no f***ing hotsynch...I need to beam the recordings to alex.
    Lee's game on Antiworld mike flips
    sweet, ive done that once but it happens so rarely
    Lee's game on Pick Five mike flips
    geniousity
    Lee's game on Antiworld Kristopher
    How many seconds until you get the third flag?
    New Deal Kristopher
    The need the new version of Bike or Die! Go to the home page.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/main.php
    AnOnOmAss's game on Gravicorners Kristopher
    I did better; I will upload now...
    Lee's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    Pick Five Time Trial Lee
    I'm pretty sure that this level is designed with my route in mind - using the updraft as a slingshot to the top flag last.
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Flag times on this game.
    <4.5, 14.0, 20.5, 26.0, 28.5, 37.5, 45.5
    Lee's game on Antiworld Lee
    Flag times on this game.
    <4.5, 10.0, 17.5, 24.0, 27.0 <Crash 5th Flag>
    Kristopher's game on Gravicorners Kristopher
    Here's the new Freestyle for the New Deal!!!!!!
    (The sadest crash ever!)
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    Henoch's route!
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    opened
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Lee
    Mental speed - I just hate compressing the bike up like that!
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    It looks fast, but I think you didn't get the flags in the best order. But if you are going to take that route, you can hold accelerate and the balance left button to get up to the first flag.
    Pick Five Time Trial Kristopher
    Your route means going up to the top flags twice; it seemed better to get all of the flags at the top at once.
    New Deal mike flips
    i hate being number 1 its like being jumped by everyone at the same time!!!
    New Deal Kristopher
    You got too good for us!!
    But I think Cirenco has trouble with the new version, and my Zodiac's touchscreen is broken. I'm stuck in Master KO's levels!! I can't play as well on the Zire 72...
    Pick Five Time Trial Lee
    Good level - a few different ways to attack it, but quick.
    Benoit's game on Pick Five Benoit
    Overall same order but slightly different route in fact ! I tried both ways but somehow got a bit better with this way. I think 49.xx is possible. I like this level because there are so many ways of doing it (although the flag to ignore is quite clear).

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    Tabs's game on Bigger Than Life mike flips
    nice one
    Shane's game on Thriller Shane
    Gold for 3 hours - open
    New Deal Sz
    sorry bjtj, i forgot to place the "1.4" label in the hall of fame, now it should be clear that this levelpack requires the new "bike or die".
    Cirenco's game on Bigger Than Life Cirenco
    Solved problem, thanks SZ. I will send them when it has good weathers, so preparense. Here I leave this them so that they vote if they like.
    Cirenco's game on Bigger Than Life Vega
    Okay now THIS is sweet. Cirenco actually completed the level while in the ball. That's a whole new twist!
    Cirenco's game on Bigger Than Life Shane
    Worth a vote - a spinning-ball-bike-thing that actually finishes off. Nicely done.
    Tabs's game on Bigger Than Life Kristopher
    I think it's obvious; after getting the second flag, he went straight to the finish without the updraft lifting the bike too much.
    Cirenco's game on Bigger Than Life Kristopher
    I'll try that on Gravicorners. It's definitely possible there, too.
    Tabs's game on Bigger Than Life Tabs
    I have been trying to do it that way Kristoper but havent
    managed it.If you look at Lee's game I hit the back wall
    slightly lower than he did.
    If anyone manages to hit the finish flag directly then
    thats a 12 or 13 second game.

    Cirenco's game on Bigger Than Life mike flips
    well worth a vote
    Tabs's game on Bigger Than Life mike flips
    ive almost done it but i just barely missed it and crashed into the wall, but yes, under 14 seconds for sure
    Tabs's game on Wet Stone Tabs
    Very freaking difficult to get right.
    Tabs's game on Wet Stone mike flips
    thats very true Tabs, which pisses me off because i didnt fall straight on the flag, i fell on an angle and it costed me the gold
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    rachman is down,,, finally, i vote that we should restart the freestyle competition, or at least make a new one since there are so many new features and because all the freestyles up there are old tricks that almost anyone can do that arent even good now

    maybe we can call it freestyle 1.4 or something and you can just archive the current freestyle as a list somewhere
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Smalls
    I agree with Mike...it's good to see that you play other levels. Oh, and Sweet time!!!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Luzi82
    All my records are in card, and they are grouped in different folder per level-pack. Is it possible to let the java websync search these sub-folders automatically?
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    I have an SD card reader, so my computer sees the recordings on Drive E: when I insert the SD card. You can select "Configure" to manually find a directory, like "EalmProgramsBikeOrDieRecordingsBikeOrDie - New Deal"
    You will have to reconfigure to submit for a different levelpack, but I only play one levelpack at a time. Sz may have another solution.
    mike flips's game on Me vs. The Gravity zeeboy
    come on mike open it up already!
    mike flips's game on Me vs. The Gravity mike flips
    nothing special, just smoother beginning then jason jerome
    Shane's game on Thriller mike flips
    sorry

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    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Smooth Vanilla Flavor!
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    Wow!
    Kristopher's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    Too far at the end!!!
    Kristopher's game on Pick Five mike flips
    do you think if you went strait up in the updraft, and started spinning, youd get into a never ending spin since youd just keep bouncing up and down at the top of the updraft?
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    i was waiting for you to improve, you just cant leave a level if theres room for improvement can you... except rsp2 of course
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    I'm pretty happy with my score on RSP2. I would only revisit that level if I lose a medal. It's more tedious than fun anyway But Vanilla Sky is a blast to play!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Shane
    Bug/Undocumented feature? Have recently changed palm, so just have results but no recordings against most levels in all packs other than sweet fifteen & newdeal. Today i played siuluns levels & found every level played in slow motion, but when i improved my time on a level, thereby storing a recording, that level then played fast/normal once more. i have tested this by removing the recording & playing the level - its back to slow-mo. This could perhaps be helpful on some levels!
    News Sz
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released
    Finally, you can create your own levels with updraft and variable friction!


    "Sketch mode" is another new feature introduced in this version , drawing levels was never easier:


    Links:
  • Download "Bike or Design"
  • "Bike or Design" online User's Manual (including the detailed list of changes)
  • Kristopher's game on Pick Five Kristopher
    That may be possible. I think you will always have to move horizontally, because your bike swings back and forth over the wheels, especially when you brake. But here, you can bounce back and forth off the walls, and never leave the updraft. It would take constant playing; I doubt you could leave it and be playing an hour later.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    I'd guess there is an error when the game tries to move the ghost bike, and the errors slow the game down. The errors are caused by missing recordings. Are the recordings on your Palm, the SD card, or neither?
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Kristopher
    Now the fun is finding every possible trick to do with the updraft!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Sz
    why not, i could make the java application search in subfolders

    mysterious slowdown: haven't seen it yet, but the missing ghost recording is not the reason (or at least it is not sufficient to trigger this behavior) - i just removed one of my recordings and the level plays normally (without ghost)

    btw.  "Bike or Design" v1.2 released
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Sz
    yeah, i'm sure the level creators will find many unexpected uses
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Kristopher
    Bugs...

    I clicked "Save" and an error message came up. (Sys 0505) (0, 1142) I think Bike or Design was trying to modify the New Deal (which I was playing in Bike or Die!), but it could not modify the New Deal because it was on the SD card. Bike or Design exited (although it did save my creation) and Bike or Die! started. I went back to Bike or Die! and found a levelpack called "New Deal," but it was not the New Deal because it only had Level 0. It has trouble with the SD card.

    So I moved the real New Deal levelpacl to internal memory. Now I can save and play my new level, but I still get that error, and Bike or Design exits when I press save (and it starts Bike or Die!). I can test the levels fine, but Bike or Design starts Bike or Die! when after it saves the levels.
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Sz
    :-O
    the previous version worked on zodiac, but now i see that it fails (but it still works on treo). interesting...
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! spencer6
    i have noticed a change in the BOD physics on an automatic level i made a while back. It always worked fine until 1.4.
    if anyone hasnt noticed, if you spin around on an updraft untill you get going really fast, the bike will turn into this spinning wheel of doom! try it! its hilarious, anyway, i made it do the same thing except i had two polls between the wheels and you freefall untill it flings you into a spinning whatever. now it rarely works. and its automatic so you dont even press any buttons yet the wheel gets held up somtimes and flings you toward the wall!
    TOTAL GAMES PLAYED spencer6
    im only at 35,500 but not including thosands more from my old palm, many thousands that got earased when i switched over.
    Biker's Cafe spencer6
    Everyone! if you dont know alr...
    Everyone! if you dont know already, if you get turning really fast in an updraft without hitting anything, the bike will turn into this spinning sawblade of furry! try it!
    Everyone! if you dont know alr... spencer6
    it doesnt work that well on slower low res palms.
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Sz
    ok, fixed!
    i'm not changing the version number, use the same url, the file was replaced.

    thanks kristopher!

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    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Sz
    spencer, could you send me that automatic level? this is interesting discovery, i was sure the game should play exactly the same in v1.4!
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Kristopher
    Bug fixed- works great!!
    (P.S. I actually found the bug on Zire 72s. )
    Everyone! if you dont know alr... mike flips
    im pretty sure that every single player already knows this, but thanx for sharing

    also, its not only in updraft, its anywhere you spin fast, for example, see flips' game its in freestyle it has 13 votes
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    Sz, when can we expect a fix on the bugs I reported. I really would like to play BoD and not having it crash or freeze.
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released mike flips
    Hey Sz! its recent games list time
    Time Trial Champions JHardman
    I just had a cool idea! Think of how cool it would be if you could download other peoples ghosts!
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    Thx Vega, just got 37:34 through watching your run.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    we already had a whole debate about this somewhere in the 1.4 is coming thread i think...

    we agreed that if any of the top ghosts were downloadable that would ruin the competition...

    the best idea we came up with was set a specific level such as 20, and then you can download any open game that is rank 20 or worse... this idea isnt very useful to anyone that is good but it useful for new players who arent good at all the levels as it will help them learn
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    37:12 now...I'll catch you yet.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Shane
    Kris, everything is in internal memory.
    Would be interesting to know if anyone else with a TE2 has the same problem.
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial mike flips
    hey gus, nice times i cant wwait till ur back in the game
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    Me neither, hopefully I'll be back tomorow, because I'll be able to beam the recordings tp my friend's palm to hotsynch. (Thanx for the idea mike and shane)
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial mike flips
    cant wait to see all your golds
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    Only 3 golds unfortunately, and not a single time on the new pack...can't download because of hotsynch problem as I am constantly telling everyone.
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    4 golds, sorry I forgot 20:22 on sawtooth
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial mike flips
    sawtooth, fishes, alien, and ?
    Everyone! if you dont know alr... spencer6
    yea i know, i did it a while back like i said in "news" about version 1.4
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Kristopher
    First new levels submitted!
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial mike flips
    ive had 38:06 on this level for a while, and havent been able to improve, but vega, you inspired me! and i still havent improved but i have found my problem, i am about a second slow getting to the last flag, i already have a smooth over the spike, so maybe ill take a medal in this.... maybe not
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released mike flips
    ill play em as soon as they are out

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    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released _alex_
    i draw my thingy line around the start then i do ignore problems but then it restarts the whole palm, casuing me tto lose a) the lvlves i made b) the some times and lvl packs
    i use palm TX
    DavidKing's game on Watch your head Shane
    Now thats freestyle - incredible skill.
    Vanilla Sky Time Trial Gus
    Sawtooth, sleeps with fishes, alien sculpture, beach, and now up up up.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    WOW GUS nice times... every single level you beat me by like 1 rank!!!
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Very nice Gus. If you beat my gold I'm gonna take it back
    Megaphone mike flips
    WOW annoying, yet satisfying
    Megaphone Kristopher
    It proves that even without accelerating, you are still moving horizontally.
    Bikes Float Kristopher
    The Updraft makes a nice swimming pool.
    On The Town Kristopher
    Handdrawn Windows!
    Kristopher's game on The Beach Kristopher
    Very much like Gus' game.
    Hand-Drawn Cave mike flips
    sweet overall pack, i really like this one for next ttc levs
    Hand-Drawn Cave Kristopher
    It might be really short. Anyway, I am making more levels this week.
    Gus's game on Up! Up! Up! Kristopher
    Many flips!
    Gus's game on Alien Sculpture Kristopher
    No Gold here!
    Gus's game on Alien Sculpture mike flips
    i gotta do what i gotta do...
    Gus's game on Alien Sculpture Gus
    Vengeance shall be mine!
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky Gus
    I intend to take it so be ready. I believe that your method of ascending after getting the ultimate red flag is more efficacious than mine, and the rest of the your run isn't too bad either!
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    Ultimate flag??
    spencer6's game on Wheel Insider spencer6
    might as well open this now
    spencer6's game on Wheel Insider mike flips
    WOW WOW WOW good job

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    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    hey guys, i played this level as well, i managed to pass tabs' time but i dont wanna spend potentially many more hours just to move up a few ranks even though gold would be nice...

    i got 37:3x and i played it a few more times, and i can get my bike a full length ahead of my ghost which means that 36.xx is very possible... good luck gus, i dont think vega will stand for anyone beating him
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Hey that reminds me I haven't even uploaded the new version yet. I have not tried out the ghost either. hmmmmm......
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky PMD
    You will find that the Ghost rider definitely helps as you go about finding the fastest way to do a level.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i dont no what ur new pic is kris but its cool
    mike flips's game on The Beach mike flips
    my end with gus's beginning = 20.xx
    Ideas mike flips
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features
    Suggest your new ideas for future versions:

    One i thot of was allowing us to make the starting point at different angles, so if we start on a hill for example, we can have a 45 degree angle start so we are level with the hill... or if we are dropping down into a sort of half pipe we can start the bike vertical...

    or at least be able to start the bike facing left or facing right so we dont always have to switch
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    It's not looking too great; I think I'll change it. But the full size version is here:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/pic/1769.gif
    Gus's game on Vanilla Sky Gus
    Ultimate as in the opposite of primary (the last damn it!) and I don't have the new version either, although I do have gold on aymetric on a friend's palm. 36.8x would be a hard to beat time here. (Not saying that 37:06 isn't hard to beat thought)
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    Lost my level progress
    Hi,

    I've have up using SD card for level and recording as it seems it (at the current state) more annoying than uselful. I decided to move all recordings and levels back to main memory. Unfortunately it seems that something went wrong (I just copied it using file explorer + did some "Load from Card" stuff) as all my New Deal progress is now gone (however I got all my recordings from that level available). Is there any way to get my progress back (I barely want to play the levels I've already done with).
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    kris, your new avatar would probably look much better when downscaled manually to 128x128 (instead of relying on the ugly browser rescaling). compare how it looks inside your BoD button (processed by php)
    Lost my level progress Sz
    doing this from inside BoD would be probably safer, as "Load from Card" can merge the card results with memory results, while in file manager you can only overwrite the database.
    anyway, i don't know your exact actions so it is hard to tell if this was a "pilot error" or BoD's fault

    and now the recovery:
    type "rescue" + enter while playing the affected levelpack and your results file will be recreated.

    (but what is wrong with the card support? i use it all the time and never had any problems! 7MB in /Palm/Programs/BikeOrDie )
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Sz
    good idea, too bad you haven't proposed it before v1.4
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Sz
    unlike the kris' bug, i cannot reproduce this one
    it can be difficult to fix...
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    yea thats tru, it wouldnt have been too difficult i suppose, but maybe for 1.4b or something
    Nate's game on Hellevator Nate
    Finally after hundreds of failures.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I changed to the thumbnail made by Windows, and now it is even smaller! I'll have to make a new picture in Photoshop soon.
    Shane's game on Playground Kristopher
    I can't believe I didn't think of that!! It makes this level more fun. Now you could probably get the flags in reverse order.
    Lee's game on Playground Kristopher
    Any reason to avoid the updraft?
    New Deal DavidKing
    OMG, v1.4 may have big BUG, I get 0:24,02 in "Transporter" just now, but after saved, 0:24,02 suddenly disappeared, become 0:00,90, in v1.4, once happened too, but besides 0:00,xx, but the original record still exists.
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    lol kris then what did you do?!!! at first i tried to go right, then stop on the slippery stuff but my fastest was 38.xx

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    New Deal mike flips
    GOOOD

    jks DK
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    OPEN... your welcome
    Shane's game on Playground Kristopher
    I did the slow 43 second route; I'd rather make levels than play them right now.
    mike flips's game on Playground Kristopher
    This is the route I was thinking of; I'll try to end the game with some speed!
    Lost my level progress Borszczuk
    "rescue" works (hope it merges only better results, as in meantime I beat some of my older "records"

    as for why I gave SD up: it my be just my fault, improper BoD configuration or so, but: it always started on builtin levels. When I chosen other level I needed to tell BoD to fetch my recordings related to it (it wasn't done automaticall). Startup time increased dramatically due to recording copying etc. Since all my BoD related stuff occupies around 400KB, why shall I bother at all
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Borszczuk
    Sz: BTW: your game versioning is pretty counter-marketing Such major update shall bump version it to 2.0 at least (or 2006
    Ideas Borszczuk
    More networking features
    Since submitting levels from Palm works for me new, I'd like to also see the following features there:

  • check for updates (to let me know if there's never version available)
  • fetch my current ranking (just for fun
  • level pack downloader (obvious


    PS: how can I submit my level as "public" by default directly from Palm?
  • mike flips's game on Dome Shane
    I go to all the trouble of completely fluking a new route & you take the gold back the same day
    mike flips's game on Dome mike flips
    thats cuz i skill it i dont fluke...
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    Just call it "The New Bike or Die!"
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features MacGuru
    Well I thought of this last night while working in the level editor...

    How about directional updraft... allowing for crosswinds or downdraft

    Also, how about polygonal updraft... letting us draw something other than a rectangle of updraft. Makes it easier to fit updraft into confined spaces.
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    These are all suggestions to redirect the force of gravity at a different angle. I think next, this game needs something really new. Maybe a mom chasing you saying, "Wear your helmet!!!"
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    so shed be like a moving mine that follows a set pattern of motions, and you have to time your run so that you dont hit her because if you hit her u fail... ?
    Lee's game on Playground Lee
    It's hard to go right with any speed coming down from the top
    New Deal Lee
    David - I got the same bug on 2 of the new levels, but can't reproduce it.... I reinstalled the software, and it hasn't done it on the times I have beaten since.
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Lee
    Oh yeah
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    I know there has been a lot of experimenting lately with the way ranking is scored, but I can't help but notice that there may be a missing element. Take Cirenco's ranking for example. It appears that his low ranking in "New Deal" is completely throwing off his overall ranking. He has more medals than anyone else (not to mention the fact that he completely annihilates everyone else in gold & silver) and yet his ranking doesn't represent that. Somehow he should be ranked #1 undoubtedly at this point. But players who submit decent times for all levels will always have a higher ranking than players who have truly excellent times in most levels. This seems to sort of penalize players who don’t keep up with every single level that comes out and allows mediocre players to be ranked above incredible players just because they submitted ok times for all levels. And since we don’t want mediocre players ranked as the Champions of BOD, to balance this out a little, I propose an idea that will put a little more weight on the medals but will not impede on the integrity of the overall ranking of all levels. What about making Bonus Points for Gold, Silver and Bronze. Since levels are currently valued at 100 points max (gold), what about awarding 20 BP for each gold, 15 BP for each silver, and 10 BP for each bronze. It doesn’t seem correct that someone could hypothetically be able to have no medals at all, be ranked #5 in every level, and be the champion when someone like Cirenco and DavidKing have 50 medals or more.

    Something to keep in mind is that this type of idea will not lop side the standings. If a player earns 750 BP for medals, yet doesn’t submit any times for “New Deal”, any other player can offset those 750 points by merely ranking #50 in all 15 levels of “New Deal” (that’s simply 50 points x 15 levels, which of course is an approximation bcuz of ties but you get the idea). Take for example Tabs’ ranking. His BP would total 490 at his current ranking. This would push his total points up from 6252 to 6742, which moves him from rank 39 to 36, an increase of only 3! In Cirenco’s case, he would qualify for 935 BP, which push him from 11,282 to 12,217. Even without figuring in everyone else’s BP, it still wouldn’t make him the top ranking player. Maybe this idea has already been kicked around, but I haven’t been involved at all in the previous discussions of how rankings work up until now. Maybe there is already something in place like this that I just don’t know about, but if there is, it doesn’t seem to be very effective. Anyway it’s worth some serious thought. Let me know what you think......
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Just another quick point that I just thought of - - - if a new level pack with 20 levels comes out and one player gets gold in 18 levels and doesn't submit for the last 2 levels, he would earn 1800 points for that pack. If another player ranks as #10 in every single level, he also earns approx 1800 points (90 x 20) and the 2 players would be ranked the same for that pack. That's why that ranking system favors quantity of play more than quality a bit too much.
    New Deal DavidKing
    Thank Lee, though this bug makes me lose a gold medal, just I fear it happens again, perhaps I should reinstall and have a try again.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    To be the champion you need to be good at everything, vega.
    If i am ranked 4 in every level then i deserve to be #1 overall, regardless of how many medals other people have. That is what the golden club is for, for people with the medals (like you and Tabs) who are good at lotsa levels but havent played them all.

    However, you know i dont like the golden club . I feel it should be the medal club and each medal should take into account some formula to do with active players or something... but nonetheless...

    If you wanna be rank #1 submit all level times and be as good as possible at every level, thats why its call TIME TRIAL CHAMPION because they are the best in all time trial levels.

    Cirenco should not be number 1 right now because he hasnt played a whole levelpack yet, even if his BP would take him to #1 he doesnt deserve it because he isnt good at 15 whole levels, when he submits he will go to #1 because then he will become the overall best...

    to me it makes sense

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    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    sorry to say that I couldn't disagree more. There will always be new levels that come out (and quite a large amount I might add) It doesn't make sense to have the amount f levels someone plays rank over the excellence someone has already acheived but wants to retire from the game or take a break. This would literally mean that if DK, Cirenco retired now, their standings would tank immediately and never return, as every new level that comes out, they lose ground at an outrageous rate. One level not played wipes out a hundred points ahead of another player. Medals should be recognized! 20 golds and one zero should not equal 20 #5's and 1 gold! That's ridiculous.....if I may say so myself!
    New Deal Kristopher
    Can you upload the recording that was ruined? Did it ever get saved?
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    Vega, if everyone played just to get some Golds, they would take advantage of the scoring. I have not played the New Deal, much so Shane is ranked much better than I am. But I have more Golds in the new pack than he does. I am overall a better player (so far), with more Golds, but he should be ranked higher in the New Deal because he has played it more.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    again that is what the golden club is for... its there to recognize the great players who are no longer with us or are taking a break...

    Detroit took 95 wins this season and st louis like 83. Clearly Detroit did a better job with more wins (just like medals) but if detroit decides to quit playing in the middle of game 4, and doesnt show up to any more games, St louis will win the World Series even though they may not have has such a great regular season...

    However, theres still the point that St Louis topped thier division with 83 wins and Detroit was second in their division, but that relates to why i dont think golden club is fair because it was easier back then but thats a whole different thing

    nonetheless, what im saying is that to win in TTC you have to play all the levels and be the best overall player, by playing all the levels and holding your ground

    even in the business world, sure there is always money in specialization but the Walmart supercenters will always take out the local thrift shop, or grocery store because they are very good at everything and therefore can afford to have lower prices just like the TTC champ can afford to have lotsa rank 4s and 5s
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    And the dad makes sure your tires have 40PSI.
    (I suppose that is an American measure, though.)
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    so dads are placed in strategic locations and when you drive through them you get a speed boost, so they can be placed before big jumps and stuff
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    The problem lies in how valuable quantity is compared to quality. And it's not just about the gold either. The higher the ranking, the higher percentage of weight it should have. What about something like this.....an increase in percentage of value for the higher rankings so it doesn't necessarily weigh on medals, but more so the higher scores. So the gap between rankings would increase with acceleration.

    Top Ten Example -
    1=X (1000)
    2=X-1 (999)
    3=X-1-2 (997)
    4=X-1-2-3 (994)
    5=X-1-2-3-4 (990)
    6=X-1-2-3-4-5 (985)
    7=X-1-2-3-4-5-6 (979)
    8=X-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 (972)
    9=X-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (964)
    10=X-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 (955)

    Of course these are hypothetical #s, but the formula has an accelerated decline in value as the ranking in a particular level drops. This puts more appropriate weight on better play than to have each ranking seperated by the same #. This would not destroy the value of beating all levels. That would remain intact. But as for winning the TTC based on holding your ground on the best levels, that is perfectly.....absolutely perfectly measured by the new "Total Race" standings. That is a very accurate measure of each player that has played all levels and has the lowest total time. But to have someone that has played just ok or even pretty good on all levels be ranked ahead of someone like Cirenco who has smashed tons of records and dominates the game overall makes no sense. Anybody who is racking up the points for having the higher rankings should not be in question anymore of whether or not they might be good at the new levels that they haven't submitted for yet. Clearly Cirenco could do very well in "New Deal". Kris you mention above that someone could play for golds only and take advantage of the scoring. Take me for example. If you apply my idea to my rankings, it wouldn't do much for me. I may advance a few, but nobody would even take notice.

    With the current system, if a player submits for 50 levels and gets 50 golds, they would be squashed in points by a player that submits for 70 levels and ranks #20 on each one. That's what I am saying doesn't make sense. That system favors consistent mediocre play over superior concentrated play. I would take 50 golds and 20 blanks any day over 70 #20 spots. It almost the same as now, but the accelerated aspect would favor the better scores rather than more submissions. The evenly accelerated ranking decline is worth a look!
    Lee's game on Gravicorners Smalls
    NICE! Looks easy, but takes some serious skill. Congrats!
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    thats a good idea before, now that it is spread out over all the rankings, it just isnt fair to make it specifically for the medals... because someone who is rank 4 in every single level in my opinion is the best player... but if it goes by rank like you suggested that is really a good idea
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    except i dont really like it
    Playground Time Trial Kassula
    Come on guys!!! Why did you open it???
    Are you trying to get my only gold?!
    (At least there's a small detail missing in your games...)
    New Deal Lee
    Mine was "corrupted" on the palm, with a different time recorded, and it wouldn't give me an action replay or ghost, so I deleted it figuring it was pretty fatal.

    If it happens again, I'll try to submit it.
    mike flips's game on Playground Lee
    Mate - you were FLYING along there!
    If you had nailed the turn at the right, this would have been gold easy
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    yea, i thot it woulda been a cool freestyle too but i didnt get gold

    i havent gotten around to playing it any more but for sure, if i had jumped and landed on the right spike and used that force to spring back to the left, i woulda had a 32 at least
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    its because we hate u kassula jkss

    its because i dont have gold, and i want to show off my run
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    i would love to see you come up with some sort of formula that works

    right now, with your formula, your losing points,lol, unless you have rank 44 or better, but nonetheless, thinking up some sort of formula that is fair would be genious!

    The whole reason the ranking system changed was to make it easier to get more points, for newer players...

    what you are suggesting makes it more competitive for the better players but it makes it virtually impossible for the players who arent as good to climb up the rankings
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    Family games are always the best!
    Playground Time Trial Kristopher
    Of course we want your Gold! In theory, you have the Gold because most of us have not studied the level enough. We know we could do better because this is one of the few places you have beat me! Congratulations, though.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Mike Flips - re-read what you just wrote - because that's exactly my point. It makes sense to have the better, more competitive players rule the champion standings and have players not as good (or new) not be able to climg unless they get better. Isn't that the most fair and logical thing on earth? The better players win!

    I know my #s above counting down from 1000 is not a good idea. But it was an example of accelerated decline. The problem with 1000 points per level and having them decline the amount that I showed is that it goes the opposite way that I am trying to go here. (It lumps players even closer on a percentage basis. Gold = 1000 and 10th = 955 would be like Gold getting 100 and 10th getting 95.5 on the current scale. But the idea is still good. I will think up a formula that may actually work well all things considered. Sz - maybe we can collaberate if you're willing. I'll play around with some numbers and see if I can come up with something that is fair and correct and makes sense arcoss the entire game given the number of players. And I still think bonus points for medals is a great idea. I don't see anything wrong with that because otherwise the medals are just fancy icons that don't have any award at all. My bonus points suggestion is a small percentage of the overall points. Even Cirenco only increased his points by less than 10% with all of the medals he has. This means everyone else would be far less than 10%. Anyway I'll think on this for a few days and keep you posted
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    what i was saying is that this new system was made to award newer players more points, aside from the fact that this is economically good for SZ as more players will play and tell their friends about the game if they are ranked higher...

    the current scoring system is fine to me... to me, being the champion requires being good at all levels.

    Rachman and Prayer are both still in the top 50 and they havent played half the packs. Should they be ranked higher then Jayce who has played more packs yet never really got any medals. Should they be ranked higher then me because they had more golds bank in the day? The answer is yes... they should be ranked higher in the golden club, the system designed as another hall of fame for the players who are the best at each level... This is different from the TTC.

    You are playing for the golden club now, which is much more difficult than time trial champions but its not as important to most people, so i understand why youd want a new scoring system

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    Report a bug ackmondual
    Anyway to set a new username with the websync app?
    This isn't quite a bug, but it does appear to be the most appropriate section.

    I as well as others who've used my Palm have saved high scores under different usernames as well. Yet, the websync app doesn't even list those other usernames let alone give me the option to upload their scores. I couldn't find any option to look for all usernames, and the directory to look for is the same place where my primary high score usernames are (the Backup directory). Is there something obvious or simple I'm missing here concerning the websync utility?
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    I think that medals should be rewarded more than they currently are, and that all you need to do is ensure the medal *bonus points* aren't too highly valued. Nobody will take the trouble to play for a gold to get them 1 more rank, but if it gave bonus ranks then it would be played. If you spend 3 hours on a lvl that you are 5th at because you want a medal, this hard work is not represented in gaining 2 ranks. If ypu spend 30 minutes on a lvl that you are bad at you can gain 50 ranks, or even more if you haven't beaten it yet, which fails to reward people pushing the limits on levels, but it does reward average times. I'm with Vega, medals should be incorporated into TTC, not just golden club, because, as Mike pointed out, it is (to most people) more important.
    New Deal DavidKing
    The same as Lee, can't replay, Lose ghost, without value kept, already deleted, perhaps I will try to find out the reason to happen.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    Im stilll happy with the way it is, but if some sort of medal points came into play, there should be only 1 "level of medal" that gives points. As in if you have a medal, it doesnt matter which one you get the points. I know a gold is harder, but it should just be top 3,

    what to do for bottles"?
    Ibanez's game on Shelf Ibanez
    Finally - 27th in the 7.74 club!
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    Discount bottles entirely - we can't have 27 gold bonus point awards on shelf. I still think that it would be better to have more points for better medals, but even if it is an all medal bonus thát's still good.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    but what about downhill madness for example? is that a bottle?, that level takes a lot of skill
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    Personally I don't think that it is a bottle because there is no fixed route that has to be taken. If you look at the games you will see that the veenk flies higher and faster, and I am lower and slower. I also have a motive for this being rated as a non-bottle though because I have a medal there. Some levels would have to be reviewed but I think on the whole it is relatively simple.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    GOOD POINT!, but how would people like jayce feel about this... before the new level packs he was rank 8 and he had one medal, he was good at many levels but no medals... does that mean he sucked?

    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    We're getting into vague territory here but possibly alternsting the curve so that 1-10 give good points, 11-50 ok, 51-100 not so good 100 onwards awful, and still medal bonus. That would be very hard to implement and very unfair on 1) rsp2 and 2) on cavedweller, because everyone woud get great points on cavedweller, (if you've completed it) and most people would get very bad points on rsp2, despite having 0.5 worse than someone with a good rank. This rewards completion of difficult levels, and rewards good times, but is harsh on mediocre times. Maybe a bit of number-crunching here, but it seems to me that too many people get points too fast. If I were to make a ghost account with rank 20-30 at everything, he would do very well in ttc, simply because someone else has failed to complete, or to submit a couple of levels.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Gus - you and I are on the EXACT same page here. It's too easy for average or mediocre players to be high in the ranks because there's not enough gap between ok scores and excellent scores. If there are currently approx 12,000 points to be had in all levels combined, going from #6 to #1 on a given level is an extremely small percentage in the grand scheme. Here's the whole entire problem behind the current system. Here it is in one short sentence..... Someone who goes from #49 to #40 essentially advances the same points and reward in ranking as someone who goes from #10 to #1. There it is. And here is the reason why that's a problem.....because there is far more incentive for players to be a Jack of All Trades and a Master of None. Having the top scores weighted more will cause people to achieve better times. It's clearly a lot easier to pass other players who have lower rankings than it is to pass anyone in the top ten of pretty much any level, and especially medals. Gus said it beautifully....what's the incentive currently to spend 3 hours going from 4th to 2nd and gain 2 measly points when you can spend 10 minutes going from 24th to16th and gain 8 points. I think Gold, Silver, and Bronze should be rewarded different bonus points for sure. Gold is usually much more difficult than Bronze on most levels. And by the way, this has nothing to do with me at all. I have a very long way to go before any of this will affect me anyway, so my motive is not warped here. This "bonus points" idea and weighted ranking on higher scores won't do me a lick of good at my current standing. I will continue to think of a useable way to implement my idea and present it when it works
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    It may be the same amount of points from 49 to 40 and 10 to 1, however, it is insanely hard to do the latter. What is the point in spending the 2 hours? Gus what is the point in having a p-hat set on runescape? or having a $300 million business verse 275?

    Medals are just things to boast about, the whole point is, you need to spend those 2 hours to become the best... that is the point, get a good ranking in all levels and you will be the best... right now to become number one you need an average of like 95-96 points per level... placing rank 5 -6 in every level is extremely difficult

    i guess we are looking at this differently, i am thinking in a top 10 manner, you guys are thinking in a 20-50 manner, for the better players, the hard work is there, and medals are a result of spending the time trying to get top ten... for the mediocre players, sure they can climb fast but there is already an accellerated level of difficulty...
    to get to 50 is relatively easy, to get to 40, you need to finish all the levels and start improving some times, to 30 you need to have ok timmes on all levels, to get to 20 you need to be like top 30 in all levels, to get to 15, you need to start improving those even more, 10 is averaging top 20 or something each level, then top 5 you need top 10 in everything... so its not easy to break into the top 10, but it is relatively easy to climb the ranks so i understand your points of view
    Total Race Dave
    Braking school was hard glad to be back on the board sorry Sz
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    i mita been a bit off with the numbers...

    to me, the golden clubs purpose is to make people want to get golds, thats why i try the extra hours for the gold, its for the golden club, i guess we could argue that it should be a medal club, but then people like rachman will soar right to the top which isnt really fair and that doesnt work...

    the problem is golden club = golds, total race = fast times
    TTC = overall best, presumably a combination with both

    the thing is that the hall of fame is TTC and you guys want the other 2 categories to be considered when determining the true ttc, maybe if they all displayed on the homepage? so they are all considered important?
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    mike, there is absolutely no point at the moment, which is what I am complaining about - no-one will try for better times, even though it would greatly improve the standard of the level. Getting that extra rank is pointless and it shouldn't be. There should be a reward for that hard work. Very few people will raise the standard of a level if there is no reward, so introduce a reward and, voila, everyone wants to raise the standard. Rank 20 in everything should not be enough to get a good position in time trial, and with this system it wouldn't be. My point is twofold: 1) It stops rank 20's getting good at everything. 2) It rewards rank 1's for going that extra mile and getting that medal. I am more concerned with rank 20's taking over than getting points for medals, but the two can be harmonised to compliment each other. Extra effort SHOULD be rewarded, 10 minutes in a car getting 80 ranks just isn't right.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Mike - I understand what you are saying. Basically Sz has already developed several different ranking categories and anyone can pick which ones they want to focus on. The thing that the TTC is kind of like the overall ranking. And although Alex is an awesome player and kick's butt at BOD, Cirenco and DK have far more accomplishments and have mastered way more levels. So basically they are penalized in the ranking for mastering a whole gamut of levels instead of ranking very good on all. Maybe the problem is that Sz set up the system to have 1-50 be seperated by 1 point each (save for a tie) and then after 50 there is a calculated system that comes into effect. All I am saying is that the calculated system should start from the top down on every level (position #1... or gold). Because to say that 50 was the magic # to change the gap between ranks may not have actually been the best idea. To get 50 on one level (like RSP2) is sometimes far different than getting 50 on another(like any level where there are less than 100 participants anyway). A new ranking system would be very complex, but awarding bonus points to top rankings is easy to implement and simple to understand. What about something like this.

    Bonus Points
    Gold - 25
    Silver - 20
    Bronze - 15

    #4 - 10
    #5 - 7
    #6 - 5
    #7 - 4
    #8 - 3
    #9 - 2
    #10 - 1

    If you do the math with these bonus points, it's very reasonable. Try it on any player and see what happens. It doesn't make a huge difference. So what's purpose? Simply to reward people for going the extra mile to achieve the top rankings. If anyone is concerned about a player taking advantage of this and qualifying for tons of bonus points. May I present to you a profound thought?......There is only one way under the sun for them to do that and that way is very difficult. The only thing they can do is get medals on lots of levels and if they do, they most certainly earned their bonus points. What do you all think about this bonus point scale?
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    Sorry to double post, just read mike's 2nd post. mike- as you are always pointing out Golden Club rankings are hell to raise, so newer players like myself, have no hope when compared to old greats like prayer, it would take an eternity to get there so there is no IMMEDIATE reward for golds, and there should be. I really like the total race, but if even 1 level is lacking you are gone (for obvious reasons), so it is necessary to integrate golden club into ttc to reward the golds. Golden club rewards old golds, which are now void. Are you going to spend 3 hours getting 1 rank in ttc or 3 hours getting 1 rank in golden club, and watch it accumulate slowly? Not if you want to be champion. You'll improve your bad times. There must be an immediate reward system for golds, or they simply are not worth the trouble for most people.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Gus
    Ah it wasn't a double, Vega posted at the last second.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Cirenco
    The discucusión on the ranking is interesting. I think that Fertile valley has reason when giving him merit to golds, I believe that always it is necessary to aspire to being first and the total graduation does not recognize totally that. For a my right score it would be that it was assigned that points of advantage by the places occurred (like in the F1), as much in each game as in each package and by the total of games. And it would please me that to the new ones she was awarded to them according to the speed which they are raising positions in a short period of time, for example the best player of the week or month, I believe that MF has merit in this because it plays constantly and is making times hard beat. But also it is necessary to give merits him to DK always locates its times between the 5 first at least. It is difficult to find a graduation in that all we agree ourselves, but that is my opinion. I already finished the levels of new deal, tomorrow if I can I raise them.
    Theory Of Chaos Borszczuk
    My "records" (if anyone want compete are:

    Apes' Paradise: 0:51,52
    Tore Kong: 1:28,16
    Piece Of Cake: 1:29,58
    Jumping Jack Tribute: 1:00,32
    Meter Of Luck: 0:22,04
    Borszczuk's Delight: 1.41.44
    Snakes' Nest: 0:42,82
    There Is No Spoon: 0:34,62
    Alien Sculpture: 2:07,26
    X-Mas Tree: 1:00,26

    Most times can be beaten with ease, as I am not skilful biker

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    Theory Of Chaos Kristopher
    Of course I beat you in Piece of Cake and Alien Sculpture!
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    i guess its just a mindset. we all want TTC and nothign else. As we develop more ideas and suggestions things are making more sense. The extra bonus is really worthwhile and it will make the better players have recognition.
    I always face the dillema of going the extra mile. For example, i recently got rank 5 i thihnk on Big Cheese, but i had screwed up on a part that i dont normally screw up, and this costed me the gold medal... I knwo that i can take the gold but i realized it would be hours of work and i would rather improve other levels... this tradeoff of time vs. medals is hardly worth it when the time = many hours but for this extra reward i would consider going for it and that would definately improve the "standard" of the level...

    this is worth some thought

    Cirenco i cant wait till you submit
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    Double post

    the thing that makes me not so inclined to follow this is just that to do what DK did is just as hard as what Cirenco did, even though Cirenco has more medals. When it comes to the top 3 or so players, i feel that this wont make a difference, but as we go down to where gus is, it will matter a lot...

    but ya it does make sense to do, i can take out alex in a heartbeat if i want to but if he had the medal bonuses it would be harder
    Theory Of Chaos mike flips
    ill try sometime soon im busy right now with other bod levels
    Glass Time Trial _alex_
    and no1 show, i not how its just i wud like some1 to show u get over mine by riding roof and fliping around mine.
    Improving the global ranking calculation _alex_
    im not just saying this cos i dont want new way to have MF overtake me but having 25 points for a gold? your forgetting thats quite a lot when some levels are bare to the bone and can be very hardly improved
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    its true, its just too many points... me and alex are very closely matched now, even with all my medals i am behind him because he is better at more levels then me...

    although i must mention alex, that you are only ahead becaues i want you to be ahead, but as soon as i feel like it ur down
    mike flips's game on Glass mike flips
    opened for you alex, hope this helps
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    also, these points would make it impossible for a ttc to maintain their position...

    look at my times on new deal, when there were about 20 players i had at one point 10 golds and 5 silvers... but as more and more people played i lost half of my golds... for each gold i lose sure i can play and try and get it back, but when there are 10 people taking golds at once, there is no way i can maintain my golds... this applies to all of bike or die...

    DK was the leader (and technically still will be when he submits). He focuses on one level at a time and improves his rank... when people takes his golds, he loses out on golden club, but he can afford to take a few hits as he will only lose a few ranks... with this system he could lose 40 points on a few levels. This is way too much to lose, as it would turn the game from a fun competitive game to an obsesive game in which you have to play 20 hours a day to maintain your lead...

    Vega, if all your golds were taken tomoro, and you were TTC, you'd still be TTC but you would just have less golds, but to gain these golds back would take months...

    we have to be allowed to lose our golds without a necessity to play 24/7 to get back in the game
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    We could really make a novel of this- or an essay, speech... so much opinion with little effect! As I saw when the official scoring was changed, all of the scoring methods will sort the players similiarly, unless they played abnormally (many Golds, or not all levels played). So it really shouldn't ever affect you, Mike Flips. If you are better than _Alex_, you will be ranked above him in almost every scoring chart.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    its not alex that im worried about kris... its Cirenco and his abundant medals...

    the golden club is for golds, ttc is for overall best
    cirenco's accomplishment is great, so was DKs, so is alex's, you probably understand more then vega what its like trying to improve all the times in every level, kris

    do you like how it is now? you move up by the amount of ranks you climb, or do you think that medals should give bonus points?

    The problem is there are just different levels of competition... me, alex, cirenco, and dk, are the point where to be that good you need to have medals so all of us have some medals, and have worked extremely hard to get where we are, when i move up from 7 to 2, i want those 5 points, i dont want to have to worry about Cirenco being number one and taking a bonus 20 points or something... but when we move down a level to 5-15, these people may want medals because some people like kris have quite a few, while other people dont have and this gives kris a huge advantage...
    then we get to the last level, where most of the other players may have up to 5 medals at most (aside from vega/tabs, etc..) and this bonus wont help them in any way
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    Novel Chapter 11, page #999:

    The scoring isn't right or wrong; it sets the rules, so the players are right or wrong. The goal is to play the way the scoring was made for you to play; play all of the levels well, and get a few medals. Cirenco medals many levels, and doesn't play all of the levels well. As a result, he is not as hard to beat as he could be.
    If you think the scoring should encourage people just to get medals... that doesn't make much competition. If everyone just once Gold medals, they can all pick different levels to medal, and there is no competition for the medals. The scoring shouldn't support "medals only" for this reason.
    So the scoring promotes competition as it should.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    What is so hard to understand about this. It's cut and dry. Fair for all. The idea of bonus points neither benefits nor targets any one individual. Rather it would apply to anybody that has a rank in the top ten of any level. This doesn't have anything to do with Alex or Mike or Kris or DK or me or Gus. And it doesn’t having anything to do with how long you can keep a medal or any of these other temporary goofy situations between 2 players that you guys are bringing up. I am talking about a system that will reward top performance instead of the way the mathematics in this particular system that has recently been developed appears to work, which is lop sided heavily toward quantity of play no matter how good you are. ANYBODY can rank #50 on 100 different levels. But hardly anybody can rank #1 on 50 levels out of 100. The current system would score these two types of players as even. What’s up with that?

    And Alex, before you say that 25 points is too much bonus for a gold, do the math please. Because even in Cirenco's case, it STILL wouldn't put him above you and I must say that is pretty much outrageous in and of itself. As more levels are added, the bonus points would be diluted by percentage of total points possible anyhow. If somehow holds 10 golds and they have 250 bonus points, do you realize that’s probably less than 2 percent of the point max right now. And if the number of levels double, those points would diminish to less than 1% , which by the way can be wiped out by merely ranking #50 on 5 new levels. In fact, I think it should be even higher! It's too easy for consistent widespread 'good' play to rapidly wash out far superior and far more difficult excellent play. People say Tabs is one of the best players in this game. Why do they think that? It's because he gets incredible rankings on some levels and doesn't even pay attention to others. And guess what, his ranking suffers severely for it. But I remember reading in a post somewhere a while back where Tabs answered someone who had asked him why he doesn't play more levels and his response was that he doesn't have the time. Do you think he doesn't have the time to rank 40th on every single level. Sure he does, but he wants to play excellent and 40th is only 'really good' in most cases. Even if you tripled my bonus points idea, Tabs ranking still wouldn't be anywhere near yours. But I'll bet that Tabs has spent more time playing BOD then most of the players ranked ahead of him and can probably wax 90something percent of them in a stand off in any particular level. He doesn't have the time to play each level the way Tabs plays, and neither do I. But I could have already ranked in the top 20 on every level in the game by spending merely half the time I have already spent to get just a few golds. That's because the top is the hardest part. It's where all the concentrated strength is. It's where the best of the best are. A bonus for top spots wonderful and fair idea that I am very surprised is met by so much opposition from even some of the best players. Every new level that comes out will deflate the value of these points anyway which is a shame because that means in order to stay in the top rankings in BOD, you MUST stay in the game forever and it will pretty much own your life. So someone who stays with it over the next 3 years can play every level that gets added on, build up 25,000 points for reaching like rank 47 on everything, and they will be ranked as one of the best players in the game for being consistently decent, while players that have held excellent scores and all kinds of medals over the years will only get to be recognized in the Gold club and..... quite obviously, that's only for their golds, not any other medal.

    I don’t know what else to say. I can’t drive this point any more. I guess in the end whatever the ranking system becomes is what it will be. But keep in mind that Nobody, not even the best of the best, can keep up with getting medals on every level. But anybody can keep up with getting in the top 50 on every level. So players have to choose which they want to be, and they are ranked accordingly. I hope we can all still be friends cuz I think you are all really great at this game, but that’s my beef. Chow for now
    Improving the global ranking calculation PMD
    OK. Time for me to chime in.

    I agree with some kind of bonus points. I am not sure exactly what they should be, but I do know that the few Golds that I do have took an immense amount of time to get. If I spent that time on just improving other levels and not taking the top spot, I would most certainly have a higher ranking than I do right now. I am much more proud of my Golds in Standard than the ones I have in The New Deal.

    The only thing I would add to all this is that a Gold in Standard Levels was much harder to pick up than a Gold in The New Deal due to the number of people that have attempted and completed the levels. So, maybe a different bonus scale based on certain thresholds of players attempting a particular level. For example:

    If only 10 people have played a level a Gold gives only 3 point, Silver 2, and Bronze 1.

    11-100 - Gold 6, Silver 4, and Bronze 2.
    101-250 - Gold 12, Silver 8, Bronze 4
    251+ - Gold 25, Silver 15, Bronze 10.

    A system like this would lessen the benefit of a new player jumping up the rankings just because they played a new level pack that less than 25 people have completed.

    Just my 2 cents to the novel that has already been posted.


    Improving the global ranking calculation PMD
    Oh, and I might as well double post since you are already reading my previous post.

    Upon farther thought I would make it more points for 1000+. Those first 5 levels in Standard should be worth a whole lot more for having a medal (100 Gold, 50 Silver, 25 Bronze). I know it would take playing one of those levels probably 10,000 times to pick up a medal. I have played Underground 7,077 times and it is only good for 10th place. You have to earn those medals with so many players and it should be justly rewarded.

    For Vega to have the 6 Golds and one Silver that he has, he had to earn them. Which didn't allow for him enough time to even complete all of the Standard Levels. Leaving him ranked #116 in Standard, which we all know he belongs way higher than that in Standard. With my proposed bonus points schedule (which is just throwing something out there), he would only move up to #57, but that is more like it.
    mike flips's game on Glass Ibanez
    Thanks for opening Mike - i wasn't convinced that was possible, but thought it must be to get that time - there's the proof!!
    Theory Of Chaos Borszczuk
    I'd love to see an ability to upload my (and yours) rides to the site. Even if not medal-related it would be neat to see you all riding my levels in different ways.

    BTW: As I recall Snakes' Nest was (to my, of course) the hardest level to complete
    Improving the global ranking calculation Shane
    With a catalogue of mediocre times in established levels and better times (for now) in new levels, I am one of those players that unwittingly take advantage in the TTC system - so I thought I should chip in. This is happening because players like playing new levels and there are not many active players right now. Somehow the game needs more players - spread the word I found BoD by accident when browsing for mountain bike parts!

    I can see why its important to add some points weighting to the top performances and something should be done. Why not mirror the Moto GP points system as bonuses on top of the current points calculation? 1st = 25 points, 2nd = 20 points, 3rd = 16 points, 4th = 13 points, 5th = 11 points, 6th = 10 points, 7th = 9 points, 8th = 8 points, 9th = 7 points, 10th = 6 points, 11th = 5 points, 12th = 4 point, 13th = 3 points, 14th = 2 points, 15th = 1 point
    You could factor in something for the number of competitors on a level and this would keep us upstarts that play new levels at bay :p . But this does not take account of difficulty, so perhaps would fall down when you look at very tricky levels like parachute & cave dweller where Lee & Cirenco have Gold times that were, no doubt, very hard to achieve. On the other hand, is riding school competitor #1000 much of a threat to Vega, Tabs & Co.? In time the new levels will gain more players and #15 in a new level could be more deserving of its bonus point.

    Cirenco's 'player of the week/month' seems like a good idea, as does Mike Flips idea of recognizing all ranking systems on the home page.
    Take the plunge! MacGuru
    I LOVE the updraft on this level... I can spend an hour just jumping in a "swimming" around
    Biker's Cafe Borszczuk
    8000th post
    It's just the exactly 8000th post on this forum

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    BOD - Arise of the Updraft! Shane
    good fun levels - in particular 'on the town', 'updraft de lava', 'bikes float' & 'pepperoni'. But how the hell do you do 'Updraft Obstacles'?
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    I have devised a mathematically fair system that I believe you will all like because it's based on an accelerated percentile decline but it's very conservative. I have it in an excel document and it incorporates some of the ideas suggested by other players in the previous comments over the last 2 days. Is there any way to post this excel document in this forum so you can view it and let me know what you all think?
    mike flips's game on Glass Tabs
    Stunning
    mike flips's game on Glass Vega
    That's incredible Mike!
    mike flips's game on Glass mike flips
    Thanks, PMD inspired me, back when he had gold with 25.76,

    its a pretty hard trick
    Improving the global ranking calculation PMD
    I agree with Shane on the difficulty aspect. There will never be 1000 people that will complete Breaking School. It is too hard to have large numbers of people complete it. A Gold there should be rewarded adequately.

    I too found BoD by accident. I was just trying to find some apps to put on my new Treo and I found it somewhere.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    look at standard levels, imagine DK was 2 points behind oliver instead of 25

    getting to within 2 points of oliver is a feat on its own, and is very difficult to accomplish (right PMD?).

    the new scoring would push oliver way ahead of DK, it would also throw Cirenco way up... I thought people thought that Oliver was the best (just like tabs is good) and Cirenco, right now with 6 silvers, 3 golds, and the new scoring system may even pass oliver... i feel in this case, the extra work for the medals is outranked by the fact that it is really hard to be # 1 in standard

    nonetheless the idea isnt too bad as a whole

    PMD's game on Glass Vega
    So PMD I take it you were the first to think of this shortcut? That's genious! It seems it was just calling out to everyone to be found
    Shane's game on Glass Vega
    Huh? Why did you go thru the bomb? Is that thing even active?
    Shane's game on Glass mike flips
    weird, maybe its just the online replay? because it definately is active
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Here is my idea for a new format... hopefully this posts right. It's simple and completely duplicatable. It's based on a conservative percentile decline taken from the next highest ranking in successive order. This type of system cause larger gaps in the top spots and progressively becomes smaller gaps the lower the rank.
    #2 is 97.5% of #1
    #3 is 97.5% of #2
    #4 is 97.5% of #3

    #11 is 98.0% of #10
    #21 is 98.5% of #20
    #51 is 99.0% of #50
    #101 is 99.5% of #100
    #301 is 99.8% of #300

    I brought this formula of 99.8% out to 1500 player spots and it gets to be slightly less than 1 point at that level. That's very close to Sz's current system for points, but it more appropriately addresses the top spots.

    The bonus points are 10-1 for levels of less than 300 players and 40-5 for levels of 300+ players. What do you all think?
    Bonus Points
    RANK POINTS % 1-299 300+
    1 100.000 97.5 % 10 40
    2 97.500 97.5 % 9 30
    3 95.063 97.5 % 8 25
    4 92.686 97.5 % 7 20
    5 90.369 97.5 % 6 18
    6 88.110 97.5 % 5 15
    7 85.907 97.5 % 4 12
    8 83.759 97.5 % 3 10
    9 81.665 97.5 % 2 7
    10 79.624 97.5 % 1 5
    11 78.031 98.0 %
    12 76.470 98.0 %
    13 74.941 98.0 %
    14 73.442 98.0 %
    15 71.973 98.0 %
    16 70.534 98.0 %
    17 69.123 98.0 %
    18 67.741 98.0 %
    19 66.386 98.0 %
    20 65.058 98.0 %
    21 64.082 98.5 %
    22 63.121 98.5 %
    23 62.174 98.5 %
    24 61.242 98.5 %
    25 60.323 98.5 %
    26 59.418 98.5 %
    27 58.527 98.5 %
    28 57.649 98.5 %
    29 56.784 98.5 %
    30 55.933 98.5 %
    31 55.094 98.5 %
    32 54.267 98.5 %
    33 53.453 98.5 %
    34 52.651 98.5 %
    35 51.862 98.5 %
    36 51.084 98.5 %
    37 50.317 98.5 %
    38 49.563 98.5 %
    39 48.819 98.5 %
    40 48.087 98.5 %
    41 47.366 98.5 %
    42 46.655 98.5 %
    43 45.955 98.5 %
    44 45.266 98.5 %
    45 44.587 98.5 %
    46 43.918 98.5 %
    47 43.259 98.5 %
    48 42.611 98.5 %
    49 41.971 98.5 %
    50 41.342 98.5 %
    51 40.928 99.0 %
    52 40.519 99.0 %
    53 40.114 99.0 %
    54 39.713 99.0 %
    55 39.316 99.0 %
    56 38.922 99.0 %
    57 38.533 99.0 %
    58 38.148 99.0 %
    59 37.766 99.0 %
    60 37.389 99.0 %
    61 37.015 99.0 %
    62 36.645 99.0 %
    63 36.278 99.0 %
    64 35.916 99.0 %
    65 35.556 99.0 %
    66 35.201 99.0 %
    67 34.849 99.0 %
    68 34.500 99.0 %
    69 34.155 99.0 %
    70 33.814 99.0 %
    71 33.476 99.0 %
    72 33.141 99.0 %
    73 32.809 99.0 %
    74 32.481 99.0 %
    75 32.157 99.0 %
    76 31.835 99.0 %
    77 31.517 99.0 %
    78 31.201 99.0 %
    79 30.889 99.0 %
    80 30.581 99.0 %
    81 30.275 99.0 %
    82 29.972 99.0 %
    83 29.672 99.0 %
    84 29.376 99.0 %
    85 29.082 99.0 %
    86 28.791 99.0 %
    87 28.503 99.0 %
    88 28.218 99.0 %
    89 27.936 99.0 %
    90 27.656 99.0 %
    91 27.380 99.0 %
    92 27.106 99.0 %
    93 26.835 99.0 %
    94 26.567 99.0 %
    95 26.301 99.0 %
    96 26.038 99.0 %
    97 25.778 99.0 %
    98 25.520 99.0 %
    99 25.265 99.0 %
    100 25.012 99.0 %
    101 24.887 99.5 %
    102 24.763 99.5 %
    103 24.639 99.5 %
    104 24.516 99.5 %
    105 24.393 99.5 %
    106 24.271 99.5 %
    107 24.150 99.5 %
    108 24.029 99.5 %
    109 23.909 99.5 %
    110 23.789 99.5 %

    full excel doc available if anyone is interested
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    To clarify
    Column 1 is rank # (1-110)
    Column 2 is points (100 down to 23.789)
    Column 3 is the percentile decline (97.5% down to 99.5%)
    On the far right at the top is the bonus points for spots 1-10.
    (10-1 is for levels of 300 or less players)
    (40-5 is for levels of 300 or more players)
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    interesting discussion

    the time trial champions is of course designed to reflect the overall performance. players like vega are not ranked high in this ranking for obvious reasons (but if vega submitted most of the other levels without even trying to achieve good times he would be probably around #50, this would however destroy his uniqueness )
    but the medalist are not really harmed - they are listed high in "medals by country" and "golden club" (often for months/years after they quit playing, which is impossible in the general ranking)
    it's just different awards for different work

    the whole idea of paying more for top ranks may be worth pursuing.
    what i don't like in the vega's formula is fractions. in the current system you get 1 point for 1 rank - clear and simple (or 1 point for 2 ranks if lower than #50, and so on).
    95.063 for #3 is awkward
    PMD's game on Glass PMD
    I am not sure who officially did first, but when the New Deal was released, from the times, it looked like it was just me and Shane who did it.

    Yes and it was calling out to be found. I looked at the flag with the bomb and figured that there had to be in SZ's design a way to get it without going around. I tried a number of different things, but going over was definitely the easiest and fastest. My game was much more of a jump over than Shane's. His does look like he just went right through. It probably is just a glitch in the replay.
    BOD - Arise of the Updraft! Kristopher
    You couldn't get that, either? I haven't completed it yet, but I was close, so I know it is possible. I will try to beat it now...
    Shane's game on Glass Kristopher
    I think only the wheels and head are affected by the obstacles.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Sz - I agree about the weird fractions. Maybe #2-50 can be rounded up to the nearest 1 point and the fractions can be reserved for 50+ kind of like your current ratings.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Actually perhaps the nearest 1/2 point (up or down whichever is closer) so everything would end in .0 or.5
    Improving the global ranking calculation Kristopher
    You could have 100 competitions, each with different scoring methods, so everyone is happy.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Hey good idea Kris!

    No seriously though I would like point out that Sz has put a lot of thought and time into modifying the point system to be what it is and I don't mean to thrash it with my opinion. I know it's tough to rank this game since there is so much variety and so many different types of players. My idea is worth a serious look, but even if it doesn't get implemented or if some other variation of it does, that's ok too. BOD is such a unique and different game that there really isn't any other type of thing to compare it to so we are all having to come up with what makes the most sense for competition

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    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    here is the vega's excel file:
    Ranking System with BP.xls
    Shane's game on Glass Shane
    Replay looks just the same on my palm - its weird I have blown it jumping over like MF, but have gone through it OK like this more than once.
    Shane's game on Glass Shane
    For what its worth, this run was recorded on 1.4 beta.
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    and i think it is not very different from the current scoring - except for the "top 10 bonus" of course.
    so let's focus on the bonus.

    i could add an additional "experimental ranking" (like before the previous change) to help us evaluate different options
    BOD - Arise of the Updraft! mike flips
    really hard level, took me a while to get
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    hmm, adding it to see what happens would be nice, but i have a few games i havent submitted, how would i be able to figure out what i would really be ranked with the new system
    Improving the global ranking calculation Sz
    another file from vega - 2-50 rounded to nearest .5 (up or down) and 51 - 300 rounded to nearest .xx or one hundreth and 301 + with .xxx or one thousandth.
    Ranking System with BP no fract.xls
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    the major diff is in the top 100 spots. If you notice the points for #20 are 65 versus approx 80 and #50 is 41 versus approx 50. So because of that, I suggested 10 for a gold instead of 25 on levels less than 300 players. If no change in the rankings, the bonus should be much higher than the suggestions in the spreadsheet or it wouldn't even make a diff.
    BOD - Arise of the Updraft! Kristopher
    If you beat it, then I do not have to. I think you have to go slowly, because if you go up a lot above the updraft, gravity will give too much vertical speed.
    Shane's game on Glass Shane
    i have tested this out and if you get the front wheel over the bomb the rest of the bike appears to be bombproof !

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=69613

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=69614

    this one's still out of the medals but a bit easier on the eye
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=69612

    DavidKing's game on Transporter DavidKing
    Fortunately bug has not happened.
    Shane's game on Glass Kristopher
    It looks too easy!
    DavidKing's game on Transporter mike flips
    good time!
    DavidKing's game on Transporter DavidKing
    Thank mike, your recent achievement is really very good.
    Maka's game on Lunar Ice Maka
    Ha! And I thought I had discovered a new way of doing this
    Maka's game on Lunar Ice mike flips
    lol, theres too many creative players nowadays nice run
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    2 things

    first, you wrote 3 players split 63 points or 31 each, im assuming that was supposed to be 93 points.

    Already the 10th ranked player has lost 10 points, so it shows that there is quite an incentive to go for the gold, but then the bonus points add a lot more to that still....
    this would greatly affect people like oliver, if he loses a gold, he loses 10 points + 2.5 points, thats 12 points instead of just 1 (i know he has extra points to start off with, but that is stilll a lot)

    what kind of change are you hoping for vega?

    oh and also, instead of putting it 300+ make it standard levels, and 300+, cloudwalk and pipe universe are still pretty competitive levels even without 300 players...

    and this brings up a whole debate, what about the really hard levels, just because they dont have 300 players or more does not mean that they are not extremely challenging.

    everyone always mentions parachute as a hard level... i bet lee worked extremely hard for that gold, why should he only get 10 BP and not 40 BP? on many of the levels the same amount of competition is there, even on that level look at the top ten, Lee, Louis, DK, cirenco, alex, vin, jayce, you qi, schneider, beniot... that is a stacked top 10, clearly there is a large element of competition in that level by gauging the skills of the players. Lee topped the best of the best, and you are saying that just because a level has 300 players it is harder... that isnt always true, most of the top 10s in standards have 4-5 players that i just mentioned, so the same people are competing in both cases.... the main competition is between the better players, it is rare to find a random player (like leoceuller) in the top 10 of any level in standard

    also look at cave dweller, another hard level... most people can not get under 30 minutes, and Cirenco got 2 minutes... that is a huge accomplishment, why doesnt he get 40 BP?
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    oh and SZ, a suggestion, i think right now it displays 20 posts / page, if you look at the length of these posts, it should probably be 20 posts per page or a maximum of "x" lines
    Ice Skating mike flips
    WOW i love this level
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate PMD
    Sweet. Under 30 seconds and breaking a time that has stood for almost a year and a half.

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    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Mike Flips - I noticed my typo earlier. 31 should be 21 >>> 21x3=63

    You raise a decent point about the difficulty of certain levels versus others regardless of how many players there are. Normally, more players means tighter rankings which makes moving up very difficult. But in some cases I can see why that may not be fair. Perhaps a flat rate BP scale would be better no matter what level it is.

    As for Oliver losing a gold to someone, I see nothing wrong with that. I am not trying to devise a system that favors anyone. It doesn’t matter who loses what gold. Because they will only lose that gold if someone else earns it. And if so then yes Oliver would drop 12.5 points. There is not an ounce of unfairness in that situation. That’s ranking. That’s the whole idea. Is Oliver a talented BODer that has proven his talent? Absolutely! Nobody intelligent would question that, but Oliver isn’t the God of BOD so why are bringing up how would he would feel if he lost 12.5 points. And it also doesn’t matter if he has spare points to lose because he has earned them. That has nothing to do with anything at all. That’s what I meant earlier about you making these strange circumstantial references about certain individual players and the whole “what about how they would feel” mentality. If someone wants to keep their rank they will need to earn it to stay at the top. I am not concerned at all about people losing their positions. The only reason I keep making reference to Cirenco and DK is because they dominate this game right now and their ranking doesn’t reflect that. I would say that you (Mike Flips) are the next closest on their tail as far as widespread excellent play.

    Every person playing this game is aiming for one universal thing when trying to improve their ranking – that is to improve their time. It doesn’t matter if they want to get Gold or 20th. So since not one single player is looking to worsen their time, the weight and the prize MUST be heavily tilted toward the best possible time. If this is not the case, the goal becomes a paradox because players will accidentally figure out that they can score higher altogether by not scoring as high on each level. The most challenging part of this game is passing the very top ranks. So players who rank #10 on everything and often aviod the most challenging aspect of BOD are being ranked as some of the best of the best in the TTC. Just as PMD mentioned in an ealier post, getting a gold takes far more time & effort than getting #20 on 5 different levels. Nobody knows the price of gold in BOD better than I do. I may not have the most golds but I certainly have some of the most difficult. That’s why to me my BP idea for gold doesn’t seem outrageous. What’s the current prize for a gold >> 100 points. What’s the current prize for #20 on 5 levels >> approx 400 points. Hmmmmm something doesn’t seem quite right here. Players begin to realize that they can spread out their time through mass levels and obtain a better rank for their time by not playing to their best on each level. This causes players like me, Tabs, Cirenco, DK and many others who ‘go for the gold’ to be penalized for the type of play that is normally rewarded. There is never a problem with heavy weight at the top of the ranking scale. In fact some sports and games don’t recognize anything beyond bronze. Because nobody cares about who can be #37. We all wanna know who’s the “best of the best”. Not “who’s the most consistent pretty good player”. But if you want BOD to be a socialistic game where all players are supposed to feel good about their rank even if they are not the best, then I guess that will be up to Sz and everyone involved in this discussion that will determine the final decision of how the game will be ranked. Please understand that I am not trying to be a jerk I promise. But you are definitely missing a very basic and fundamental understanding of the purpose of a competition. If the reward is skewed toward mass mediocre play, that is exactly what most people will choose because it’s easier. As for me, I go for the gold every time!

    I guarantee this is the last long post for me as I am growing quite weary of this topic and I feel that there is nothing left for me to say. I am going to revert back to short and sweet posts now and just go for the gold
    Playground Time Trial _alex_
    mayb try riding the cieling at the right? i almost manged but backwheel missed finish flag -.- im guessing cud have ben 33-34
    mike flips's game on Glass _alex_
    finally this was getting anoying =) thx MF =D

    thgouht this was how to do but shane.... thats freaky o.O
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    Vega, im feeling the bonus points (flat rate or not, who knows)

    i understand completely what you are saying, i just feel that this many points will make it impossible for the top players to hold their ground,

    i know im using another specific example, but lets say DK is ahead by 100 points, and then 10 players over the next day or 2, each take a gold from DK... Lets say this puts Cirenco into First, because Dk just lost 125 points. If Cirenco hadnt even been playing and it was 10 other random players, he didnt do anything at all, and was thrust into first. I would argue that DK would still be the best player, but it would take him months or weeks just to recover those goals, while Cirenco could be at home sleeping.

    I know you are going to say that if DK wants to stay at the top then he has to play those levels, and because he lost those golds then Cirenco would be considered #1, but that doesnt make sense considering his 100 point lead.
    Kristopher's game on Glass Kristopher
    It WAS too easy!
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    Maybe this is the secret?
    Kristopher's game on Glass Kristopher
    Shattered it!
    Kristopher's game on Dome mike flips
    nah, i woulda been done well before u even reached the 3rd flag if u had hit it
    _alex_'s game on Playground _alex_
    kris is this the slow 43 second route?
    haloweenis coming! i luv haloween.... sweets galore ^^
    mike flips's game on Wet Stone mike flips
    i woulda still been a medal if i hit the flag right away!
    _alex_'s game on Playground mike flips
    this was my original route, before i even thought of the other one, my best was around the same as yours i think 37.94 or somethin
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Mike - There is a logical flaw in your example. You are not considering the same points Cirenco would potentially lose as a result of those 10 players passing DK to acheive gold. The scenario you mention could never actually happen in reality just as you portrayed it. Points will always shuffle around that's ok though.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    i guess your right, im just saying that the increase in points for higher ranks makes the people at the top rank play nonstop to maintain it, which is encouraging bike or die addiction while now you can take a break for a few days and not worry...

    i think most people would rather being able to stop for a little bit and take a breather rather then play all day being addicted... thats my whole point, maybe im jhust a softy?
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    oh and technically it can happen, if DK is number 1 in all 10 levels, random player #2, and Cirenco is number 3, then the number 2 players all take gold, DK moves down to # 2 in 10 levels, and loses 125 points, Cirenco sits back and says thanx

    but ya its not likely

    CIRENCO SUBMIT ALLREADY
    mike flips's game on Transporter mike flips
    opened, requires a lot of control
    Improving the global ranking calculation Vega
    Your reasoning is still flawed Mike. Your example can happen with the current point system already. It's ok we don't need to beat this to death.
    Improving the global ranking calculation mike flips
    ya buts its 10 points instead of 125, but then again it may be a ratio based on how the medals are distributed in which case it wont make a diff

    Ice Skating mike flips
    Whats peoples' fastest times on this?
    Kristopher's game on Thriller Kristopher
    There is still room for improvement.
    Kristopher's game on Thriller mike flips
    y does everyone enjoy taking my golds all the time

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    Kristopher's game on Thriller PMD
    Same reason you enjoy taking ours.
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Jens
    Are you really going through the little cliff with your rear wheel or is this a "playback glitch"? I tried hard, but either I die or I get slown way down too much.
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Kristopher
    It is possible to go through the cliff; keep trying!
    _alex_'s game on Glass _alex_
    just missed a 21...
    omg i suck...
    Kristopher's game on Thriller mike flips
    good point
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    So Sz, how's it coming on that fix for the bugs I reported on Bike Or Die.

    I also would like to mention something on that crashing bug. I've noticed if you open BoD and you don't open a level, and you exit, the palm doesn't crash. I just want to let you know, man.
    DavidKing's game on Playground Henoch
    David, I think with your route if you combine with my ending you could grab the gold medal. Do you think so?
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Henoch
    Wow, it could be this fast? Actualy I take this route from Lee . He such a generous person who opens most of his route. Not like you Kris :-p
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    OPENED - its not very smooth but it will probably help
    DavidKing's game on Playground DavidKing
    opened, no secret, thank Henoch, you are right, but my ending is very slow, this is not good time, everybody can beat it, enjoy.
    DavidKing's game on Playground mike flips
    i tried that a few times but it never worked and i never got around to doing it again, ill try today, thanks DK/Henoch
    Ice Skating MacGuru
    I'm looking at 0:24,26 on my own level

    You?
    Playground Time Trial Kassula
    Not so fast, DK, not so fast...
    Give my gold back!
    DavidKing's game on Playground Kassula
    Don't try to hard, Mr. Flips!
    It's getting dificult to keep my gold...
    New Deal Cirenco
    I have returned
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    I used to open many games; now my games are either Gold, or not worth watching.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I just uploaded over 100 recordings from my Zire 72 for the Standard levels; I don't think any of them helped my ranking (except one)!
    Report a bug Kristopher
    Unauthorized Games are Missing!
    I submitted about 140 recordings, which all went to the "unauthorized games" section. I checkmarked to authorize the first page of them, and checkmarked "authorize this device." So now, the first page of those unauthorized are authorized, but the other pages (with over 100 games) are missing. They are not in the "unauthorized games" section, or in the "games on-line" section.
    Ice Skating mike flips
    under 20 seconds, i sent in my time to Sz, hopefully he can post it, its amazing to watch
    New Deal mike flips
    wow, good job Cirenco

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    Unauthorized Games are Missing! mike flips
    u said the times didnt help you anyways, so who cares???

    lol, im joking, i hope you fix the problem, u can always resubmit them
    Unauthorized Games are Missing! Kristopher
    I think if I resubmit, I will get an error, "already exists." This happened once before, too.
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Lee
    I know I'm not in the top 10, so I just like seeing the levels get played fast
    Cirenco's game on Asymmetric Lee
    Aw man I figured from the time you were getting the third flip too - I just can't get this! ARGH!
    DavidKing's game on Playground Kassula
    on time: I meant "too hard" (I guess I have to work on my english as well as on my BoD skills)...
    mike flips's game on Asymmetric mike flips
    open - i went to the left at the beginning, otherwise this would be 28.xx
    mike flips's game on Asymmetric Kristopher
    So all three medals are for different routes! With a better ending, I can get 27 seconds.
    mike flips's game on Asymmetric mike flips
    i just had a minute, i tried a few times, under 28 is very possible with a great run
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    Okay, it is open!
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    Sz, this will probably help you, then the Palm Crashes (when I power off), I get this error (which appears after I play the "New Deal" collection):
    MemoryMgr.c, Line 3732: NULL handle

    I hope this helps you with the bug fix.
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Kristopher
    I Googled that, and it seems this is a common error. There must be a lot of programs with line 3732!!
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack mike flips
    same route as what i showed, just faster
    v1.4: New features, new levelpack, more fun! Nate
    Yeah, my Crash Pro software use to just say "Fatal Exception," but it changed (to that one) after I had a problem (not BoD related) with some software and I had to restore everything.
    AnOnOmAss's game on U Jump AnOnOmAss
    I haven't perfected it yet but i'm not sure whether it actually takes any time off normal runs.
    AnOnOmAss's game on U Jump Kristopher
    I doubt it.
    AnOnOmAss's game on U Jump AnOnOmAss
    Yeah I didn't think so either , but it was worth a try. Also my first post on the Bike or Die forums. (more coming)
    Pazos's game on Hill Smalls
    Is it pointless to ask you to show? It would be much appreciated. Nice time! How long did it take you?
    Cirenco's game on Asymmetric Smalls
    I've done it all this fast, just never in the same game, takes skill! Nice one!
    Pazos's game on Hill mike flips
    lol smalls its very pointless, he hasnt played in a year and a half, i have a 22.40 lying around if you want i can submit it and show it...

    you need a lot of control in this level, and lotsa practice
    mike flips's game on Dome mike flips
    hey Shane, since you fluked it, show it

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    AnOnOmAss's game on U Jump Kristopher
    I suppose it's too late to change your name.
    Shane's game on Dome Shane
    Open Mike, Slow start Should be 12.xx
    Ice Skating Sz
    here it is:
    mike flips on ice skating
    Shane's game on Dome mike flips
    thats no fluke dude, (except the into the updraft part at the right was a bit lucky).... thats how this level is done, except i flipped the opposite way at the end, not that it makes a diff. Good job
    Ice Skating mike flips
    Wow, thanx Sz
    Ice Skating Vega
    Did you here that BOOM right near the end. I think you hit MACH speed Mike!
    Ice Skating mike flips
    i try
    BOD - Biker Meets World Kristopher
    Here're some more new levels. I think they are all possible, but I am not sure!
    Big Pool *Fire* Kristopher
    No level like this, or with so many flags, has been in the Time Trial yet. Would it be a great addition?
    Pit and the Pendulum Kristopher
    -Edgar Allen Poe
    Funnel on Top Kristopher
    22:12!
    Elevator Kristopher
    38:00!
    Opposite Reaction Kristopher
    14:98!
    Pie Chart Kristopher
    46:76!
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    When the Palm Battery is Low, You may Lose Your Recordings on the SD Card...
    If your Palm battery is low, the Palm will no longer be able to save your levelpack progress to the SD card. You will get an error message 0001, and a new levelpack progress file will be created on the Palm itself.
    When the Palm battery is fully charged again, you can go to "recording" from the menu to reselect the SD card for saving your recordings and stats.
    But I think you will loose the progress made while your card is inaccessible. You can type "rescue"+[Enter] to solve this.
    I think there should be a better error message than "0001", and the "rescue" Easter Egg should be used automatically when the recording location is switched.
    Can someone explain the time trial scoring Kristopher
    Your games were probably not associated with your profile. Check the "unauthorized games" section.
    Unauthorized Games are Missing! Kristopher
    I tried resubmitting, but they were rejected. They are still missing!
    Report a bug Kristopher
    The JavaSync can Crash Windows!
    I had manually selected a directory for the Java game-uploader on Windows 2000; it was the directory for SiuLun's Levels on the SD card (Drive E). The games were submitted well, and I restarted the JavaSync a few days later to submit again, from a different SD card. But this SD card did not have a folder for SiuLun's Levels, so when I went to JavaSync>Configure>Browse, the Windows Blue-Screen-of-Death appeared, and Windows restarted. It happened twice!
    Shane's game on Dome Kristopher
    I'll bet you could end this a bit faster, too. Nice route!
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    No!

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    _alex_'s game on Glass Kristopher
    Is 21 seconds possible?
    Kristopher's game on Draco Kristopher
    The JavaSync can Crash Windows! Kristopher
    I put the first SD card back in, navigated back to Drive C, exited the JavaSync, put the other SD card in my USB SD card reader, restarted the JavaSync, went to Configure>Browse, and attempted to navigate back to the recordings on the SD card. The JavaSync crashed *AgAiN* when I double-clicked on the "BikeorDieRecordings" folder! I cannot use the JavaSync now for this SD card; I probably have to reinstall the Java program!
    AnOnOmAss's game on U Jump AnOnOmAss
    Yeah I wish I could change it I didn't know that I had added an extra "s" to it. I really want to change it but I would have to try and beat all my other times. Which i'm not sure I can.
    Biker's Cafe AnOnOmAss
    What kind of Palm does everyone use?
    What kind of palm does everyone use? Just wondering how the performance is. I use a zire 72 (special edition) which has a high processor speed and the bike moves very smooth. I also have a tungsten e and i was playing on it and the bike kinda moved roughly. I've been letting my 5 year old sister play bike or die and so far she gotten to level 4!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I like the Bike or Die! picture!
    http://www.clickgamer.com/products/pid_1186/boxart/boxart.jpg

    But the new Bike or Die! is not available at these sites yet! Maybe they are just slow.
    http://mytreo.net/downloads/details-396.html
    http://en.pdassi.com/product.php?pf=palmos&prod_id=17926
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Kristopher
    I am using that Palm, too. My Tapwave Zodiac is currently "unusable."
    http://www.geocities.com/tzmne/temp/openzodiac.jpg
    I can reassemble it, but I'm not sure if I can fix the touchscreen...
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Kristopher
    I meant the digitizer. It doesn't respond to the stylus anymore!
    AnOnOmAss's game on The Well AnOnOmAss
    NOOOOOOOOOOO why did i have to be sooo stupid at the end
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    yes?
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    I will take this Gold back!
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    please dont
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    You can have Golds on the annoying levels.
    mike flips's game on Playground Henoch
    Come on Mike, you can do it. Me myself always bump my head on the upper left wall, what a pity
    Biker's Cafe Song.Shang
    Can I get back my record?
    Dear administrator,
    I inadvertent delete all my standard levels records in my SD card just now. and I have no backup. Could you send all best records of standard level I have uploaded to server? It my last expectation.:~(
    my ID: song.shang
    Playground Time Trial Henoch
    Well I think it's just a matter of time. After Cirenco, DK, Mike, Kris, Gus and all 'maniac' player know the route, your gold will be history, just like mine
    Opposite Reaction PMD
    13.92
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    Henoch is wise
    Opposite Reaction mike flips
    13.46
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? ackmondual
    Deja vu? But to recap anyways, a T|T3 in hi-res+ portrait mode. Sound off, particles off, gore on, and full details only for 1.4 maps so I can see the draft effects

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    Opposite Reaction Kristopher
    I suppose going all the way to the bottom of the map slowed me down. But by accelerating off the floor, I was able to get to the right side of the map, and accelerate on the right wall. I could go much higher than the finish flags.
    Henoch's game on Playground Henoch
    Playground Time Trial Henoch
    Ha ha ha..
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    i used a 600 for most scores, but since i got my 650 ive had so many better scores...
    Opposite Reaction mike flips
    i think i went to the bottom
    AnOnOmAss's game on The Well mike flips
    lol
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    like this one?
    mike flips's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    This is a fun level.
    BOD - Biker Meets World MacGuru
    I have NO idea how some of these levels are possible... did you test them all? Take Ribbon Loses Gravity... possible?
    BOD - Biker Meets World Kristopher
    I beat that one in 42 seconds, but the Ribbon Returns is a bit harder. I have not beat levels 14, 16, or 24, but I beat the rest.
    Opposite Reaction Kristopher
    13:50 now. Actually, the key is to hit the bottom hard, to bounce up fast.
    mike flips's game on Sixpack mike flips
    k but seriously stop playing it, i worked hard for this.
    Opposite Reaction mike flips
    13.42

    a lot of your levels are really good kris, the winter one, i never finished it, but going left first, i had all 4 flags in 33 seconds and then messed up
    Ribbon Loses Gravity Kristopher
    28:02 now!
    BOD - Biker Meets World mike flips
    ribbon returns is easy, the key is a lot of speed i got 33.xx on that

    did you make a type kris, because level 16 is really easy, just dont go fast into the updraft, go nice and easy

    lev 24 is annyoing because it takes 40 seconds just to get to the point where the bike breaks free... i dont know if its possible because usually the bike only breaks free when the bike is doing downward motion which will always lead to crashing thru the flooor....


    good pack overall, lotsa good quality levels
    BOD - Biker Meets World Kristopher
    A typE? No. A typO? No.
    I just got stuck in the updraft one too many times.

    I know level 24 is annoying to beat, but I found a way to get un-stuck without dying. I think accelerating at the beginning helps.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Lee
    you know what? - this question could be easily answered by having a field in the "My Profile" section of the web site.

    Then it could be queried and might even be useful for Sz to look at which best way to optimise the software to keep the most people happy.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Kristopher
    And to see what Palm is the best for this game.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    its the the palm kris, its the player who holds the palm
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    *its not the palm

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    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Kristopher
    The Zodiac has distinct advantages to the Zire 72.
    * It has a longer screen, so you can see more of the map.
    * It plays a bit slower, so you have more time to think in between frames.
    * With my button configuration, my thumbs do not get in each others' way like they do on the Zire 72.
    * The balance, accelerate, and brake buttons are not attached like they are on the Zire 72 and Treo 650, so you can accelerate and brake at the same time.
    * Longer battery life!
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    my 650 lasts for 4-6 hours no problem... so i dont really have to worry about battery life...

    i also dont have to carry around a palm, mp3 player, cell phone, camera, agenda... because i have it all

    how does accelerating and braking at the same time help you???????

    If you really care about playing slowly play on a zire 21 its so slow that its hard

    I found that it is easier on the 650 than 600, i guess some people can handle the speed, and others cant lol jks kris
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? spencer6
    im using a tungsten c with a 400mhz proccesor, which probably makes it harder but its better that my pixled out m515.
    AnOnOmAss's game on The Well AnOnOmAss
    Its not like it would have been a best time but it was still cool that I got it all the way to the bottom doing flips. I really did get very lucky at the last flip though.
    Ideas AnOnOmAss
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here
    Lee had the idea of having a spot in your profile that shows what kind of palm you use. It would be cool because you could see what kinds of palms others use and see if they have any effect on the times and performance of the game.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    wont tell us about which is best for the game, or else, you should buy whoever is number 1 at the time

    people get used to whatever palm they have, no matter what palm it is, it will be the best... also people prefer different speeds and whatever it is, it works for them...

    i gues its nice to know just for fun, but it wont tell you anything...
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Lee
    I wasn't thinking it was for our benefit, more for Sz - it might be useful to realise that the majority of users have a certain resolution / speed of device to "optimise" has sales
    Standard Levels mike flips
    Wow, that sux, it "stole" some of my scores... and i cant resubmit as they "already exist"

    RSP1 = 27.5 or 27.8x i forget
    RSP2 = 12.20

    = when i fix this, theres a new oliver in town
    Cirenco's game on Asymmetric Gus
    I managed to get the flip and pull all the way to the end, but the return was abysmal on mine. ( I have 29:32 unsubmitted)
    Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Gus
    How the hell do you do it???????
    Somebody beats you, three days later...BANG you're back in first!!!
    Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes mike flips
    i bet he has tons of unsubmitted times for certain levels that he saves up for the right occassion
    Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Gus
    Well Tabs what's the secret? Did you play this level 20,000 times or do you stockpile good times ( or was my time sooooo easy to beat it only took a couple of runs?
    mike flips's game on Sinus Mountains mike flips
    top 3 times all have the big jump
    mike flips's game on U Jump mike flips
    gotta hate ties...
    mike flips's game on Wheel Insider mike flips
    really hate ties...
    mike flips's game on Underground mike flips
    using the ghost, i can get ahead by a full bike length but havent landed it again
    Levelpack Explorer FJCCH
    HELP! HOW CAN I UPLOAD MY OWN LEVELPACK, AT "SUBMIT" IT SAID THAT IS TOO BIG, BUT I THINK IT ISN'T (16 KBS)
    sO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
    mike flips's game on Hill mike flips
    here smalls
    mike flips's game on Wheel Insider Kristopher
    I'm tied with you on RSP2, so I like them (because I am ranked higher)!
    Tabs's game on Sleeps With The Fishes Kristopher
    Some players with Golds have not perfected their routes because they already have the Gold; Tabs could have gotten this time a while earlier if he needed to.

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    Standard Levels Kristopher
    If the games are not in the "Unauthorized Games" section, then you have the same problem I do.

    Congrats on almost beating Oliver; you can become the new Time Trial Champion. Although I still wonder who would win if Oliver and Vega played to win.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Currently, you must email the levelpack to Sz. The email is posted at the bottom of this (and almost every) page.
    But that is a good suggestion; it would be easier to submit levelpacks through the submit form.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here AnOnOmAss
    Yeah it would benefit Sz. I was also thinking about it so people could see what kind of palm all the other people would use. Maybe the palm has an effect on the way people play bike or die.
    Standard Levels PMD
    Congrats to Mike Flips for passing Oliver. That is a huge accomplishment, especially considering that is almost all that Oliver played (he didn't play the other level packs). I wasn't sure if anyone would ever pass him and Mike did it decisively (19 point lead).
    Standard Levels mike flips
    Thanx PMD, i couldnt have done it without your encouraging messages tho... , that goes for gus, vega, and kris as well thanx

    1st PLACE

    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    well, there needs to be some sort of screening process, SZ has to approve them before releasing them, maybe if SZ put a new link in the submit section that automatically emails him the uploaded file
    Ideas Justy
    face changes
    draw a face and then in the options you could make a face that changes when your guy dies, for example while riding around the face is normal ,but the second he is killed the face changes to something funny like a sad face or cross eyed or you could just draw one.
    face changes Justy
    for a menu under display options make two buttons, one to draw, import, or take a picture if your palm has a camera, highlight the portion you want to be the face and hit save, or ok. the second button would be for the death face, do the same but make it a little different or you could just draw on the previous face to make it funny looking.
    Golden Club mike flips
    The golden club should not incorporate the freestyle compeition, or "bottle" levels...

    Freestyle is a competition that rachman has always been leading because there havent been enough people who care to vote now, and back then everyone voted... his game isnt even any good, my little sister, at 10 years old, found that trick having played under 20 minutes in total...

    also, there is no reason the people with golds on "bottle" levels should be getting points in the golden club (do they?). This is really unfair, they dont deserve golden club points, they just deserve to keep their medal as the first to do it... anyone else who matches it gets 100 points and no medal because they werent first, but they both acheived the same feat, why should one get golden club points just because they played it first?... or everyone that is tied with first on levels doesnt get a gold medal but they can have golden club points?
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Yes. With the current way, many people don't know they are supposed to email the levels. They also don't know who Sz is, or what he email is. I know the emails are everywhere, but people don't see it!
    face changes Kristopher
    That's a lot of things to add for such a simple feature! If I remember right, the heads are only 15px wide in low-res, and 30px wide in high-res.
    I suggested this earlier, so people could draw on the faces, but you probably didn't see that because there is a bug in navigating the forum. If you have RsrcEdit, you may be able to change the drawing of the low-res guy's head with that. I was at least able to use that to draw on the wheels.
    But each TBMP (Palm Bitmap format) is a single "resource", but it contains multiple pictures for multiple resolutions and bit depths. If you modify these bitmaps, you may erase a necessary picture, and you will have to reinstall Bike or Die! The problem is, RsrcEdit cannot load the 16-bit graphics used for the high-res display, so it will erase them, so you cannot run Bike or Die! in high-res mode. So only use RsrcEdit if you want to play in low-res mode.
    I think you will find the biker's head is too small to draw much.
    Ibanez's game on Asymmetric Ibanez
    Good getting back - not so good getting there!!
    Golden Club Vega
    I completely agree about bottle levels and Freestyle not being included in the Gold Club. Also, the Freestyle comp needs to be revamped or something. It is a really great idea, but as everyone can see, nothing is happening there. I agree that Rachman's run is very outdated. Cool yes, but not spectacular enough at this point to be able to maintain the top spot with all the great players we have today. I think Mike is right.....it's just a lack of interest because it would take an act of God to put something out there that would get 50+ points.
    Golden Club Vega
    Infact....I already did something that took an act of God with the Sinus jump and only got 10 votes...and of the 10, 2 of them were from my VegaDad and VegaWife, my own family This tells me that not enough people are participating because it's not realistic to beat Rachman.......HEY! I just got an idea. What about having the freestyle voting based on active players voting. Every year the slate can be wiped clean and all eligible games can be re-voted on by all active players. This seems more interesting because it will always keep it fresh. Also, there may be 30-40 votes that Rachman got from players that haven't been active in BOD for a very long time. That would be like having fans vote for an All-Star team in 1978 and having those votes count for the rest of history, so every year players not even active are being voted on and that's pretty lame eh? What does everyone else think about this? Or does anyone else have any other ideas?
    Golden Club Shane
    Vega's idea makes sense. But you will need to define what an active player is. Also, should inactive players have their freestyle games as well as their votes removed from the competetion ?
    BTW looks like you've picked up 2 more votes in 1 hour with that story
    Golden Club Vega
    Shane - no definition of active player is necessary. Simply wipe the slate clean and allow whoever wants to vote to vote. The active players will identify themselves simply by logging on to the website and voting. This would be great because the only votes received would come from all of the people who currently care to do so, which caters and satisfies the current BOD group rather than satisfying the group of the past that doesn't even check up on it much. But even if Rachman wanted to vote, that should be fine because I don't think anyone should be penalized for not submitting recent times. It would just be their choice as to whether or not they want to log in and vote.
    Golden Club mike flips
    it sounds good, and each year there can be a champion.

    However, if it is wiped clean each year, a lot of people arent going to remember that they have to vote again...
    so there would have to be some sort of IN YOUR FACE reminder for people to revote... maybe when you log in, at the top of your profile it will say = YOU HAVE 3 VOTES REMAINING or something....

    or, (maybe this is what you meant vega - but i dont think so), every year the freestyle competition is completely removed, as in every single game is removed, then players have to submit new games in january and voting can start in february until the end of the year. And if Rachman or whoever wanted, they could come back and select their same recordings to be resubmitted as a freestyle entry...

    that way, there can be a champ every year and no one will benefit from inactive users voting.

    As for the golden club, do you guys think its fair to remove points from Rachman so that it doesnt include the freestyle comp, or "bottle" levels?
    I feel thats fair as he doesnt really deserve points for these things, he has the fastest possible score, but so do other people, either they all should get golden club points or none of them, (and the answer should be none of them, because then 30 people would be getting points for shelf),

    everytime a scoring system has changed people have lost/points, or only some gained... so its fair to do this, now that we realize he shouldnt have the 2 golds that he does

    Golden Club Vega
    Top 3 each year should be recognized. And I love the IN YOUR FACE reminder of the votes. That's perfect. I think that alone will generate a lot of new excitement in this competition. Sz - It may be a good idea to make a general bulletin (not for the forum)......kind of like what Tom did with MySpace. This way you could communicate a mass broadcast to all players that log into their profile page. (or I guess just the homepage of BOD)

    As for having players resubmit, I don't think that's necessary. We should only wipe the votes slate clean, not the games submitted. I think even the inactive players games should remain eligible for voting.
    mike flips's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Why secret Mike? Does it look lame or something?

    New Trick?
    Golden Club mike flips
    Yea, top 3 sounds good, and i guess its not neccessary to erase all games

    i voted for you vega btw


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    mike flips's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    nah, most of my games are secret cuz im just too lazy to open them all

    its open now
    Report a bug Chanhuff
    Level Editor
    When you are in the level editor and you go to Clear Level so that you can change the compatibility from 1.0 to 1.4 witch is what it needs to be for new things a lot of other problems are also happening like Test Level without Splitting long lines and no finish.
    Level Editor Kristopher
    The compatibility (v1.4 or earlier) is determined automatically. So after clearing the editor, if you test immediately, it doesn't check for errors?
    Golden Club Kristopher
    I set my Bookmark (and one frame of my homepage) to http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?login=1 so I do not see the homepage much.
    BikeOrDie - BG Pack 2.1 Kristopher
    Nice levels.
    Biker's Cafe spencer6
    easter eggs
    what easter eggs are there other than "rescue" and "stats"?
    Golden Club Vega
    golly gee thx Mike
    The Extreme Files Kristopher
    Who rated this pack 3.75 of 5 for difficulty? I did not think these were hard.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    According to the ratings, the Newbie Pack is harder than You Qi's levels!
    easter eggs Kristopher
    My web site is really old now, but this page still exists.
    http://geocities.com/kristopherwindsor/bike/eggs.html

    Golden Club mike flips
    i have it in my favorites and it takes me to the hall of fame page, which is what i meant by homepage

    np Vega, voted for it the day you got it
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    well henoch? was i right?
    The JavaSync can Crash Windows! Sz
    scary!
    anyway, the java app will be still the same even if you reinstall it but deleting the configuration files should reset everything to the initial state.
    there are 2 files: ".bikeordie-websync.config" (starting with a dot) and "bikeordie-websync.db", both located in the windows' user home directory.
    Unauthorized Games are Missing! Sz
    1.this is serious, happened twice this week, i will have to check...
    2."already exists" is not that bad, it means your recording are safely stored on the server (however not assigned to your account - i will correct this by hand)
    Can I get back my record? Sz
    don't worry, i will send you the files
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    36.xx w/ new flippy trick!
    Piece of (vanilla) cake!
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Vega
    Just for fun!

    ceiling trick:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=70854

    crazy flips:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=70855

    alternative option:
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=70856
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    And Gus thought he could be you!
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    nice little flip, i got that a few times but it is really difficult to do, good job!!!

    ceiling trick = cool but useless

    crazy flips = the funny part is its still top 30



    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    *beat

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    BikeOrDie - The Maze Kristopher
    Here's an interesting levelpack! It was sort of modeled after Mario levels.
    Maze Mission #20 Kristopher
    Beat This!
    Maze Mission #05 Kristopher
    I think there is a bug in the updraft at the far right; only the left half of it works. Does anyone else see this?
    Can I get back my record? Song.Shang
    Thank you very very much for your very very kindly help~
    Maze Mission #20 mike flips
    lol
    Medals by Country mike flips
    mayb there should be an individual medal standings, i noticed that people such as DK are being overshadowed by the US and UK, because the US needs 15 people just to pass him, and me, and then people such as tabs are also being overshadowed because he is shown with a few other people even though his achievements are far greater then the others in the same country, even vega is being overshadowed
    Cirenco's game on Asymmetric DavidKing
    My ending is abysmal too, otherwise perhaps 27
    easter eggs Kristopher
    And this now!
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/tips/index.html
    Watch the best movies on all one page! Kristopher
    I have moved this page to:
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/movies/index.html

    It is updated, and has a different page for each levelpack. (The RAM usage from the original page almost freezes this laptop!)
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) Kristopher
    I will be uploading an updated version of this big forum to
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/forum/index.html
    very soon.


    BTW, The posts counts are updated!
    Kristopher (1085 posts)
    Vega (221 posts)
    mike flips (583 posts)
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    My Bike or Die! Site
    It is small now, but it has a very nice looking home page!!

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/index.html

    The best part is
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/movies/newdeal.html

    Does anyone want added content?
    My Bike or Die! Site mike flips
    pretty cool Kris, looks like you spent a lot of time,

    none of the movies pages ever load for me ,i guess im just not patient or should use something other then IE.?
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Gus
    Kristopher, find the comment where I say I can beat him. ( didnt say it) btw really nice time.
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky mike flips
    GUS - on your game you said:
    "I intend to take it so be ready."

    then afterwards, you implied it again
    "36.8x would be a hard to beat time here. (Not saying that 37:06 isn't hard to beat though)"

    Playground Time Trial Henoch
    What ever Mike. Anyway, congratulation for becoming numero uno Mike
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    thanx
    Asymmetric Time Trial DavidKing
    may be bug of this level, or bug of v1.4, I almost get 27.2x ¡V 27.3x just now, but big bug happen, the bike totally passes through finish flag, but nothing happen, I could hardly believe at that time.
    Asymmetric Time Trial mike flips
    if it happens again, go to "save my last game" and submit it so that SZ can see
    Asymmetric Time Trial mike flips
    And nice time btw !
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky _alex_
    Intend to yes-could no.

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    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    I suppose this was my fault; I did not tell the browser what I was embedding, so it probably had to download the movies before it could display anything. I didn't notice this because it loaded fine in Firefox.
    I fixed it! The page should load fast in IE, now, too. But each movie may take 1-3 seconds to load (or about 10 seconds each on dialup ).
    Ideas the_hintern
    Multiplayer
    It would be great if there is a Multiplayer funktion.
    When can play over IR(Infrared) or Bluetooth against a friend!
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Kristopher
    You can't intend to do something unless you think you can do it!
    My Bike or Die! Site mike flips
    wow, really fast now
    Multiplayer Kristopher
    I notice the same ideas keep reappearing. I guess we DO need a search feature at this site!
    BikeOrDie - BG Pack 2.1 Bg
    Thanks Kristopher!
    Asymmetric Time Trial DavidKing
    Thank mike, but that is not important, I only put forward the potential question, In addition, congratulations on becoming number one at last, especially winning in Standard Levels, that is quite not easy, well done.
    Asymmetric Time Trial mike flips
    thank you DK
    Opposite Reaction ~nick~111
    lol u noobs i have a 11:98 on this lvl owned
    Vega's game on Vanilla Sky Gus
    Intend to meaning wanting to, rather then being sure of being able to.
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    I do not have left more than to congratulate it Mike Flips by the first place and still I do not explain myself how you overcame so many points. I will have to obtain some golds because also it is having an important attack and that place if that I am not going it to yield.
    Asymmetric Time Trial Cirenco
    It the same spends in Normal Half in any case the time to me was registered, bici stopped a little beyond the flag.
    My Bike or Die! Site Cirenco
    Kristopher the site is very good, you have not penasado in putting a video with the best movements as presentation would be incredible.
    BikeOrDie - The Maze MacGuru
    I wish there was a way to publish some of these games... On one of your levels I got my back wheel caught on the maze but I popped THRU the floor and was able to finish the level.

    It was cool. Wish I could show it.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips


    your number of golds is very high still, cirenco, i dont think i will pass you there

    Free Throw Bg
    Low scores only count on this level if you make yourself into a ball.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Cirenco, your weakness is not in average level ranking, but it is a weakness in just a few levels. With better times on Riding School Part 2, Zip-Zap, Sleeps With The Fishes, Bike O'Clock, you could gain over 100 points, and lead the Time Trial again. (Although Mike Flips may still be getting new records. )
    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    (penasado = pensado = thought)

    Anyone who sees the best of the bike knows this is the best game!

    I do want to add a Freestyle page. It will have all of the most free stylish games on one page, and I could format it to fit four games on the screen simultaneously. If anyone wants a game in the list, just comment the game, and I will add it to the list. (Or I may be able to automatically add games if they have comments saying "freestyle" )
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    thanx kris! now im gonna lose again!!!
    Multiplayer the_hintern
    lol

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    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    Kristhoper that must to that my fundamental objective is to aim towards the medals, I believe that those games hardly I am going them to be able to raise because they cost to me too much. In addition I like to create new routes and to play the new tricks that are leaving. That does not mean that I would not like to be number 1 and flips is not necessary to clear merits to him to mike.
    My Bike or Die! Site Cirenco
    (penasado = pensado = thought) The idea was understood at least, something thus com videoclip.
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    Good Weather. I commented yesterday that while did not trouble to me in my golds everything would be well, because now I will focus my efforts to its golds because if I am seeing a threat. And in addition he is not consequent with its commentaries of yesterday. To prepar MF.
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    I had this before i said anything yesterday, i just forgot to submit it.
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    Later one does not complain if it appears at the most unexpected moments with half of its lost golds
    Ideas spencer6
    online version
    wacky idea but wonder if there was an online version of BOD?
    it could have a lot more features than the palm version and could easily incorporate multiplayer.
    on the other hand BOD for palm could get left behind and defeat the real reason for this site.but you would have to own the palm version to play the online version because there would be way to many people.
    just a thought.
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    i like my golds
    Smalls's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    Wow, you copied me very well!
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    I passed the 26:26 ghost bike getting the first flag by a fair bit, but then I just barely beat him because of slowdowns getting the last two flags.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=68512

    P.S. Mike Flips had beat me by .04 seconds, so I beat him by .02 seconds!
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric Kristopher
    This ending is not good either; if I would have braked, I would not lose so much time hovering over the finish.
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric Kristopher
    So much potential lost; I may have been able to land directly on the finish flag!

    Freestyle!
    The JavaSync can Crash Windows! Kristopher
    I deleted those two files and ran it again, but it crashed again. So I ran the "check this drive for errors" option from Windows, and it renamed the folder from "The Maze" to "BIKEOR~1.--0". Apparently, that folder had a bad name, or was corrupted. The bug was not crashing when I viewed the "recordings" folder in Windows explorer, but Windows still decided to rename the folder! The Javasync works again; apparently it was just crashing due to that folder on my SD card. (Although that folder had been created by Bike or Die!, so it should have never crashed. )
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    Nice flips, but failure.
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    I wonder if it can be done this way?
    face changes Justy
    ya i just realized that the face is too small for it but it would have been ok if it was bigger and all of the stuff you talked about would allow it to. thanks for the response
    Kristopher's game on Dome mike flips
    i cant be done that way, in order to stop yourself from dying where you did, you would have to level the bike out more, and that involves significantly slowing the bike down, then you dont have enuf speed to get the left flag
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack mike flips
    i spent so much time on this
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    I did, too.
    Need Unlock Code Sneerleeder
    I sent an email last week to this address. I haven't received a reply as of yet. I'd really like to try out these new features, but I'm stuck to the first five levels.
    Thanks
    Dan
    Transporter Time Trial Kristopher
    Smalls and Lee are tied but have different routes! It's hard to tell which is better when they are tied.

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    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric Lee
    gutted - if the roof had been verified as an object you might have been able to accelerate horizontally off it ... and right enough, have landed straight on the flag. bum
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric mike flips
    yea but then all of us would do that and he wouldnt have gold anyways
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    Cirenco, how about me and you dont take eachother's medals and we try and take everyone else's medals so that we are the only ones with golds?
    mike flips's game on Street Kristopher
    That could mean trouble!
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    let the fun begin check out my latest 2
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    I did not understand much, proposes one to me tregüa after attacking to me. I can stop now that already I have 4 hers in my power, discounting the one that to just finishes him snatching Kristopher to him, but much in debilitating to me is not concentrated because it is going it to pay very expensive. Tomorrow I put under then these and there is no problem that we take off some golds from time to time, but much in my golds is not concentrated because I must whereupon defend to me. It was understood.
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Cirenco
    I feel it I finish doing 26.12 thinking about taking off mf.
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    I never attacked u specifically, i dont look at who has the gold before i play the level, i just look at levels that i have a bad rank or levels that i think i can get gold on.

    I'd rather not have a competition with you taking each other's medals. It will take a lot of time, and we will only take a few medals from eachother. But if we focused on other medals we will both gain a lot more. However, if you do decide to attack my medals... bring it.
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    Is no peace then?
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    YES Peace!

    I dont want a competition between us. I wont take your medals, you dont take mine, and we both take everyone elses.

    mike flips's game on Street Vega
    no sweat guys!....all of us will just attack both of your medals then
    mike flips's game on Street Kristopher
    One secret is to take medals from retired players and older levelpacks. If you take a medal from Mike Flips or Cirenco, they may be able to reclaim it quite easily, but PrayeR and Vin cannot. It naturally makes sense that you do not take each others medals, but that you take them from lesser skilled players, so you can keep the medals longer. There go my Golds...
    Free Throw MacGuru
    Is that even possible?

    I would love to see someone ball it into that hoop.
    Free Throw Bg
    I did it! Unfortunately, it is slightly slower than non-ball. I added extra updraft to make the ball possible.
    mike flips's game on Street Vega
    doesn't matter to me who has the medal. I'll take it from anyone and let them try to beat it if they want to. I took 2 golds from Tabs, 2 from Vin (which were Oliver's for a very long time just b4 Vin beat them), 1 from DK, and one from Oliver. I am currently targeting a gold medal that Mike Flips recently attained that was Oliver's for a long time as well. I think I'll get it soon!
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    Y ME VEGA
    Ideas ackmondual
    Expansion sequels?
    This wouldn't be possible with the current game engine, but with modifications it would work...

    I saw some documentary where soldiers are taking cover from artillery and mortar shells. There was a jeep that was blazing through some moderately wooded area and flying over bumps, hills, and other terrain in attempt to haul ass ASAP. Kinda reminded me of BoD. Perhaps a simulation like that could be feasible?

    Put in boss levels? Various objectives, one of which includes capturing all the flags to kill the boss while the mines it throws at you and level's terrain try to slow you down.
    Report a bug ackmondual
    I'd like to request these fixes be implemented
    Tungsten T3 Specific Issues, in previous versions, the modes stayed the same from performing the following:
    >PORTRAIT and LANDSCAPE mode, slider OPEN
    -when in pause or map mode, closing the slider returns to gameplay mode

    >PORTRAIT and LANDSCAPE mode, slider CLOSED
    -when in pause or map mode, opening the slider returns to gameplay mode

    Issues Possible with Other Palms As Well
    When in pause or map mode (directly invoked by pressing the map or pause button, as opposed to going from pause mode after turning the handheld back on), powering off goes to gameplay mode instead of turning the handheld off
    I'd like to request these fixes be implemented Kristopher
    This happens on the Zire 72s, too. It is not really a bug, and it may be helpful since you can configure the power button as a playing button. But I liked it better the old way, so the power button can turn the game off while viewing the map.
    Level Editor Austron
    On my Life Drive, when ever I clear the editor, save a level or test a level, the program crashes and my palm resets, which on a life drive takes a LONG time.

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    mike flips's game on Street Vega
    sorry Mike...kind of

    I'll post it today. I completely annihilated another gold in standard. It will be the largest gap from Silver to Gold in standard (by far)
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    I will stop now will not bother to me that from time to time we take off from time to time, but we leave things them follow its course natural
    mike flips's game on Street Cirenco
    Let us see that so good they are your times vega
    mike flips's game on Street mike flips
    wow, thanx a lot Cirenco, i really wanted to lose 4 medals

    i wish i had as much time as you
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Wow - Cirenco has 30 Gold medals!
    Ranking Spreadsheet Kristopher
    I have remade the charts and moved them to my Bike or Die! site.

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/index.html
    ^^ Has links for top 20 Time Trial Champions

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/mike_flips.txt
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/Cirenco.txt
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/Kristopher.txt

    I had previously used a web uploading tool to upload 200 files simultaneously, but have not done that this time because the URLs change based upon the date. Since I have to manually upload each file, I have only done it for the top 20 players. If you are not one of the top 20 players, but are one of the top 300 players, you can download the ZIP file and use [Ctrl]+[F] to search the file for your ranking chart. (All 300 ranking charts are in a single text file in the ZIP file.)
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/ranking.zip

    P.S. These files are already outdated, because I downloaded the data yesturday. Cirenco is too good!
    Medals by Country Vega
    not 4 long
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    He may still get more medals. Are you going to take one from him?
    Medals by Country Vega
    yes
    mike flips's game on Hellraider mike flips
    this one right vega?
    mike flips's game on Hellraider Vega
    yes indeed Mike.... this one.
    mike flips's game on Hellraider mike flips
    well then, im for sure not gonna play it again. I figured id end up losing my golds anyways. Im a new player, and if i can take the golds that easily, then clearly there is room for improvement. Cirenco realized that so he took me out.
    I'd like to request these fixes be implemented ackmondual
    Also forgot to include,

    Pressing any PIM button twice in rapid succession, exits the game. Pressing certain combinations of 2 buttons simultaneously will also cause the game to exit
    Vega's game on Hellraider Vega
    fun corner flips!

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=71643
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=71644
    Vega's game on Hellraider Vega
    gold for a moment in time
    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    I have begun the freestyle page. Right now it has some games from the freestyle competition, but I will add many games that don't get votes. If anyone wants a game added to my page, just comment the game. (Or if you have a list of games, PM me .)

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/freestyle/index.html

    The page uses frames to put four pages on one. You can scroll each page separately, or click and drag to resize a page and ignore the others. I am going to expand it soon, so you can select movies by level or player. (Each player will get their own page soon. )
    I'd like to request these fixes be implemented Kristopher
    Yes, on the Zire 72, if you hold the calendar button down while the game is starting (while the Toyspring logo is onscreen), the game will exit, even if you tell it to ignore other buttons.
    Vega's game on Hellraider mike flips
    that flip at the right saves time?
    Vega's game on Hellraider Vega
    yes, if done correctly...it's very difficult, but I have passed my ghost doing it that way versus the 'standard' way. Same with the flip in the left tunnel.
    mike flips's game on Hellraider mike flips

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    mike flips's game on Hellraider Vega
    not sure what you mean...when I posted that comment I had the gold by over a full second. But now you took it. Glad to see I inspired you. Great job man!
    mike flips's game on Hellraider Cirenco
    It seems that we are thinking similarity, but in the end the one that has a trick more will win
    jonas's game on Gravicorners Tabs
    Smooth.
    Tabs's game on Asymmetric Tabs
    The ending needs to be better....
    mike flips's game on Hellraider mike flips
    very wise cirenco
    Tabs's game on Asymmetric mike flips
    its not bad, just a better angle from the final hill would have given you gold
    Vega's game on Hellraider mike flips
    very difficult level, i know you wont be happy with a silver... hmm should i spend all my BoD time on this level to compete with you? probably not
    Vega's game on Hellraider Vega
    I do like Gold better than Silver, but Oliver's 25.34 run stood as gold for almost a year & a half. So naturally I figured I likely wouldn't need to revisit this level at least for some time since I brought it all the way down to 23.38 & kept it secret. I have no idea how you did it, but you somehow managed to beat my score in just hours w/out even seeing it. That's incredible! But I did get 1 gold club point since I held it at the end of the day I wonder if ours look similar. These low 23.xx times are near perfection for this level. I have watched my replay several times & can't see a lot of room for improvement, & you know how I am with that! Maybe 22.xx is possible, but that's about it. So for now Mikey Boy, you got the gold. I will focus on some other levels Again, very impressive that you took it back so quickly.
    Vega's game on Hellraider mike flips
    I never woulda done it without you. Your fast time made me think, what the hell did vega do? And then i played around with the level and found a route that i thought you did.
    Asymmetric Time Trial DavidKing
    Feel sorry to Sz, possibility that I mention bug before, it just now take place again, I almost get 27.1x, original I am very depressed, but I have seen replay again, find I have unexpectedly missed the first flag, it should be like this too before, anyway, I get better time again.
    Ideas ackmondual
    Can someone explain what the Recording Options are?
    Couldn't find most of these in the user manual...

    Location:
    -This tells BoD where to look for and save level recordings from now on?
    -if you choose the the opposite location, BoD is asking you if you want to move current files to that opposite location as a courtesy so you won't have to do it yourself?

    But Keep The Follwing in Internal:
    >Current Level Pack Recordings
    >All Recent Recordings
    -If I've already choosen expansion card for location, why would I want to put these files back onto internal memory?

    Manual:
    >move to / load from
    -what exactly does this do? I thought it was a file browser utility to allow me to move individual files to and from expansion card, but it seems to move all files. However, this doesn't seem to accomplish anything as nothing's changed. Is this just a way to force the moving of files like the courtesy request BoD did in #1 above?

    Everything else was obvious to me.
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric DavidKing
    This ending is not too bad, if there is a better ending, I can get about 26.5x
    Kristopher's game on Asymmetric Kristopher
    I think, if I can do the big jump faster, but with less angle (less height in the jump), it will be faster, and the landing angle will help get a faster ending.
    Can someone explain what the Recording Options are? Kristopher
    "Yes" to your last question; you shouldn't need to use it, because it will move the recordings when necessary.

    -> But Keep The Follwing in Internal:
    -> Current Level Pack Recordings
    -> All Recent Recordings
    -> If I've already choosen expansion card for location,
    -> why would I want to put these files back onto internal
    -> memory?

    Suppose you have 10 levelpacks, and 100 recordings for each levelpack. By keeping all on the card, you have 1000 on the SD card. But then, you will have to load 100 recordings when Bike or Die! starts. (It has to load recordings from the current levelpack into RAM before you can play.) But by keeping recordings from the current levelpack on the Palm, you can have 900 recordings on the SD card, which means only 10% of the recordings are on the Palm. But the 10% on the Palm are the only ones Bike or Die! has to load when it starts. So if you do not switch levelpacks, this can save you 90% of RAM used by recordings, and save 100% of recording loading time.

    If you only change levelpacks every month (or when a new Time Trial levelpack comes out), this can save much loading time.
    Vega's game on Hellraider Cirenco
    fun corner flips!

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=71643
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=71644

    Vega : I believe that that is not the main trick in this game, is more I believe that the fact to publish is for distracting the attention. Now you will begin to collect silver, you will not make the attempt to gold as you said?
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Cirenco
    Open
    Vega's game on Hellraider mike flips
    I agree with you Cirenco
    Vega's game on Hellraider Vega
    no need to distract anyone. You really could accomplish a great time incorporating both of those flip tricks, but that is not how I got 23.xx
    Report a bug spencer6
    map button
    half the time i press the map button during a game it goes to calender and loses my place when i was doing good too. it is extremely anoying. i cant even use the map because im afraid it will exit!
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Kristopher
    WoW!

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    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Vega
    Yikes! This is probably awesome to see. I can't imagine this level getting much faster than this. That's incredible Cirenco.
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider mike flips
    yea its pretty good, its the same as his old game just much faster, but it musta taken him a while to get this
    map button Borszczuk
    I happens here too (with different buttons). AFAIR Sz is aware of this bug.
    Need Unlock Code Sneerleeder
    Well, it's been two weeks without a reply. I gave up and repurchased the game. I don't feel I should have had to do this, but I really do love the game and I am getting bored with trying to improve my times on only the first five levels.
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Cirenco
    Version improved of that I published, no additional secret
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Kristopher
    Maybe Vega learned new tricks for no reason!
    Cirenco's game on Hellraider Vega
    tricks are cool
    "Bike or Design" v1.2 released Austron
    Great program, except it crashes my lifedrive every time I clear the editor or test the level. I dont know if this has been fixed sence-- oh, no it hasn't. I downloaded it in november, so, if these bugs could be fixed, that would be great. My problem is just like that of alexes
    Playground Time Trial Kassula
    Well, my dear Henoch, as time went by, Kassula got back to his rightfull place on Playground...
    Flip off, BoD maniacs! Kassuuuuuuuuuuula is back!!!
    HA HA HA ha ha ha...
    Playground Time Trial Kristopher
    Congrats, but I am not done here (or with any of these new levels)!
    DavidKing's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    "!!" -
    DavidKing's game on Sixpack DavidKing
    that is not good time, if I have a good ending as before you, I can get 24.x
    DavidKing's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    I don't think I could get 24.xx; I must have missed something.
    Kristopher's game on Sixpack Kristopher
    Opened!
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    so why dont you make it public so everyone spends their day trying to beat it. (what else would i do in biology and geometry
    Report a bug Borszczuk
    Updraft bug
    I got a problem with "Updraft" object i my new level I am working on. I got two of them, exactly the same power (3) next to each other. The problem is that it seems the second one... does not work. It does not take the bike up if you jump into it, and if you pass from the other one to this one, you simply fall down and crash like there's no updraft at all. The updrats in subject do not overlap. Any hints?
    easter eggs Borszczuk
    icanread - does not work as described (at least here, on T650). But when I type it as per usual, while playing other level - it works.
    Playground Time Trial Cirenco
    Kassula I in its place would not make as much scandal by a medal, coverall if the harmed one is MF. You can finish very badly.
    map button MacGuru
    It only occurs for me (Tungten E) when I'm pressing a directional key and hit the map key at the same time. It REALLY ticks me off.

    Another thing is when I pause the game and go back by pushing a key. In versions before 1.4 it negated the actual FUNCTION of the key press and just unpaused the game. Now, say I'm hauling butt across a straightaway, and I pause it... hit down to unpause, I break hard and end up dead.
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    Kassula, usually u should wait a day or 2 before making comments, what if someone beat you today, then your comments would seem stupid... congratulations on beating me

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    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    WOW, mata just submitted, he took a year off lol
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    So why dont you just spend your day trying to beat my public games Besides you won't beat this anyway even if I open it Post a run closer to my score and I'll open this!
    mike flips's game on Playground Vega
    Now what Kassuuuuulllalalala la la ?!! .... eh?
    Good job MF, you BoD maniac
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    map button ackmondual
    Are you pressing the button twice in succession very rapidly? If so, it does that on my T3 as well.

    Otherwise, see if this helps for the time being...
    Menu --> Options --> Control --> More Control Options button

    UNcheck - Don't Ask Before Quitting
    check - Disable Other keys
    Playground Time Trial DavidKing
    this is only one game, competition is good, but needn't be so serious, the gold medal is only fictitious.
    DavidKing's game on Half Normal DavidKing
    too bad.
    Playground Time Trial Kassula
    Oh no...
    You shouldn´t have done it, Flips!
    Kassula is very angry now.
    Know that every day and every night, whenever you eat, whenever you sleep, Kassula will be playing Playground! Kassula will not rest untill he beats you again!!!
    I´ll be back, Flips! I´ll be back...
    Playground Time Trial mike flips
    Wow, what a waste of your days and nights... Also you should take some time to eat and sleep as well, it isnt very healthy. If you beat me, ill just take it back again, u should make better use of your time and start improving other scores.
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    Maybe after Mata, Volcano and Rachman! will come back also?
    mike flips's game on Playground Henoch
    Well done Mike
    Playground Time Trial Henoch
    Well Kassula, I just want to give you some advise. Please don't broke your palm button
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    ty
    mike flips's game on Playground Cirenco
    Better Kassula retirate you do not serve for this game
    map button MacGuru
    No, what happens to me is it quits if lets say, I'm accelerating and I check the map. I happen to be holding down UP and it will quit.
    Updraft bug Kristopher
    I saw this bug a few days ago and emailed Sz. I have not seen a pattern for why some updrafts do not work.
    easter eggs Kristopher
    You are right; it doesn't look like you can enter any easter eggs while watching the startup movie. I will change the web page.
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    Hi guys.. well im back with the vice, i cant help it, but I tried for a whole year... hehe. Im trying to make volcano play again, but he doesnt want...and i cant locate rachman, dou you think that he is still the best player ever? Or cirenco, or mike, or oliver?
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    Also.. believe it or not.. i have always played with a palm m130 hahaha... and I have to do it with a black and white screen, cause if I choose colors it becomes incredibly slow.. SIMON dou you think Ill be able to downlaos and play de NEW DEAL level pack?
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Actually, the features from v1.4 do not seem to slow the game down at all. I don't think they would in grayscale, either. Welcome back.

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    I miss rachman! :( Kristopher
    Mata, you saw this thread, right?
    I miss rachman! :( mike flips
    i like prayers idea more then the golden club!!

    i wanna be a BoD Gold Archimaster
    Report a bug Austron
    Big level editor bug
    Every time I test a level or clear the editor, the palm crashes. I have a LifeDrive.
    mike flips's game on Playground Henoch
    Well, we have to admit that he is a hardworker. He need 14 days to take over mike but mike only need two hours (the time count from Mike's message and Mike's time to submit this game) to beat him back. But he did not give up yet.. until... two choices.. broke his palm or broke his finger
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    it only took about 20 minutes, im really good at the level, i guess he really wants this gold...

    i told him that if he improves his times in all levels he will become more skilled and eventually when all his times are better than 40th rank or so, golds will start coming naturally
    XA Software L 15 Dr. John
    I hate levels that just climb. It is just a crap shoot of eventually crawling up the hill without flipping over. Thumbs waaaay down
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    better time is possible. Notice total length of this run is 27:48....

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=72370
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Cirenco
    That it happens that no longer beams public the videos like before, perhaps you felt the blow of “Hellraider”?.
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial _alex_
    I have gold here again...
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Gus
    Actually i do i was on alex's account again
    pumb.org Time Trial Gus
    and gold here too
    Vega's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    wtf vega y u go after every gold of mine
    Gus's game on pumb.org Kristopher
    Many wheelies.
    Vega's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    BigBadBrad5's game on Touch Bricks BigBadBrad5
    finally on the map
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Cirenco
    You do not have it because I see it there still. I recommend to you that it is a good time because otherwise of I will make pieces, and also I notice to you that I will begin to attack your other medals although I do not have much to choose
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate Vega
    You are awesome Mike cuz you respond to a challenge so well. Every time someone takes your gold, you claim it back almost immediately. But I know I can beat this so I will.
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Vega
    Oh Dang...them's fightin words! Cirenco layed it down flat Gus. He's callin you out!

    Cirenco - I think what Gus means is that he reclaimed gold here but just hasn't submitted it yet. That is why you still see yourself with Gold right now.
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial mike flips
    LOL Cirenco

    beware Gus, you do not want Cirenco attacking you.
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    U should take other peoples golds like Wheel Insider or something!

    Yes i respond well, cuz i like my standard golds

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    map button spencer6
    i figured out how to stop it by changing the map button to the
    select bnutton on the 5 way navigator. it works o.k. but it deppends on how your navigator is shaped. i have to hold it down though. it eliminates any exiting, thats whats important.
    Kristopher's game on Glass Kristopher
    Open!
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    mike flips's game on Hellraider Cirenco
    I believe that we have identical route, lamentably with himself similar times and believe that if I recover it it is by very just a short time.
    Kristopher's game on Glass Cirenco
    Good.The only problem is the jump well before taking the second flag very is elevated and it makes him waste time, we have the difference there.
    Kristopher's game on Glass Kristopher
    Thanks.
    Tabs's game on Catapult AnOnOmAss
    Sooo smooth... great run.
    Kristopher's game on Transporter Kristopher
    I did not expect to get a good time because I was freestyling. I have a different beginning from Cirenco.
    _alex_'s game on Glass DavidKing
    21.xx is possible, I almost got it too just now.
    Biker's Cafe spencer6
    bye
    my tungsten c crashed today while playing BOD. it wont even reset with the reset button. it wont even turn off. and i wont be braking any records with my m515. im getting a pocket pc in the mail. ill still check on the website though
    bye mike flips
    quick take his medal everyone!!!

    That sucks if ur Tungsten C is under a year old maybe there is a warrenty, and also depending on how u paid for it, you mite have an extra year of coverage from visa or mastercard...

    or you can return the pocket pc and use the money for a palm
    Ideas Shane
    Unwanted Games
    How about an option for removing unwanted recordings from Player's Games OnLine?
  • Purge all recordings before ddmmyy and not in TTC/Freestyle/Unauthorised.
  • Delete single recording (not in TTC) in Game Details screen.
    Could save a bit of space on the server and would make the section more useful for those of us that tend to submit everything
  • Unwanted Games Vega
    being able to delete some of our unwanted games from the 'games online' section is a great idea! Everyone has games from the beginning that are never viewed anymore and are just taking up space. I agree with Shane.
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Gus
    I'm just informing you lot that i have a 42:56 or something, but it is as yet unsubmitted..not tryin to make enemies just want my gold!
    Up! Up! Up! Time Trial Gus
    But if you're lookin for a fight...bring it!
    Street Time Trial Gus
    Also got a silver here
    bye Kristopher
    I think, after the TC will not turn on, because the battery is low, if you leave it for two weeks, it will automatically hard reset the Palm because the battery is dead. Maybe that will fix the problem?
    Unwanted Games Kristopher
    That is a good idea, but I like having more games on-line than any other player! I have 2300 now.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    My Tapwave Zodiac is back!!

    The touch screen had stopped responding right when v1.4 was coming out. I reassembled it (actually, I forgot to put screw #5 in.) after poking the ribbon cables, and it works again!!
    News Sz
    Bug fixes
    I managed to fix some bugs at last:

    Bike or Die v1.4a:
  • Updraft didn't work well in big levels. This was first discovered by Kristopher in his  Maze Mission #05, and perhaps this is also the same bug:  Updraft bug
  • Fixed the problem with card levelpack names not matching the internal levelpack names (this prevented from loading such levelpacks automatically on startup).

    Bike or Design v1.2a:
  • No longer crashes 320x480 Palms (LifeDrive, T|X, etc.)
  • Loading large levels does not move the view outside the level area

  • Page 422
    Time Trial Champions DavidKing
    Congratulate kris, I believe you will get a lot of good achievement, even gold medal.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Actually, you are the one with the Gold medal!
    bye spencer6
    i baught it on ebay plus its more than a year old, has been droped multiple times,and taken hard hits in my front pocket. the battery went dead after not turning off and it hard reseted itself and i got it to turn on once but thats it because once you load everything back on it again it just crashes.
    bye Kristopher
    -> Once you load everything back on it again, it just crashes.

    You mean, it crashes after Hotsyncing? That would be due to software. If so, you could hard reset it again, and Hotsync on another computer, and it should work fine.
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Cirenco
    That was your worse error v, in these days I am worried about another subject but I am going to you to attack yet
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    Until it was decided to complete the levels. In the end all we want to be number one. I do not congratulate it because it is going to him to last little
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Vega
    Bring it Big C!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    DavidKing has been the real champion for many months. When he completes the Sweet Fifteen levelpack, he will have another 100 points.
    bye spencer6
    no, it ctrashes as soon as i open bike or die and play. but it doesnt even matter now because now it wont turn on at all.
    spencer6's game on Glass spencer6
    opened
    mike flips's game on Playground Kassula
    I'm coming... Beware!
    Lee's game on Human Insides Lee
    Ghost bike really helps on this level
    Bug fixes Lee
    Sz - thanks for putting in the work to fix these bugs. Level Editor now works perfectly on my T3.
    The only small bug I have now is the button mashing exit from BOD - especially on the initial splash screen, it seems hitting the pda buttons drops me out of BOD.
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    im scared
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i never saw he didnt play sinus revisited
    rachman!'s game on Double Sprint bones
    i agree with alex except for lee you are a very good player
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate Vega
    Impressive! But don't cry if I beat you yet again I don't go down easily my friend!
    Ideas bones
    more levelpacks worth points
    i personally believe that mf olympics and xa software 3 should be worth points



    or at least mf olympics
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    thats the spirit
    more levelpacks worth points mike flips
    I completely back that idea... MF Olympics is the best levelpack ever

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    mike flips's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    Wow, u submitted when i commented that was cool
    mike flips's game on Golden Gate Vega
    Whoa! You're right. That's crazy! I submitted the new gold EXACTLY when you commented "thats the spirit"
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    That's 7 out of 10 levels so far that I have broken through a time barrier!
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Cirenco
    I recover it until with the closed eyes and a single hand
    Time Trial Champions Cirenco
    pfff
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    u little noob i swear i have enough of your cr*p english and your stupid boastin if u so good then get gold in every lvl btw Dk is still the champ un like u u nooby little imature showoff
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Cirenco

    Dog that barks does not bite, your commentaries do not interest to me because for my you do not exist in BOD so from now on what you say to not it interests OK me
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    i really think u are so sad playin bod all the time u probably even play when u are on the toilet and even if your girlfrind is there seriuosly get a life it is sad to see u always playing bod and u still arent better the dk and not as far better than prayer or the other real champions so quit boastin cause compared to dk u are a lousy player a really really really lousy player
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Vega
    ~Nick~111

    Cirenco might be a little arrogant, but at least he backs it up.

    You, on the other hand, sound like a grade school child that is trying to insult someone but can't come up with anything cool. Either you're just trying to stir stuff up or you're pretty stupid.

    by the way....is that you in your picture?
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Kristopher
    Cirenco is not a newbie, and you, nick without a capital letter, don't have good English, either.

    BTW, who says we play more than you?
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    guys im not training to stir anything up and i never said that im better than him but i was just fed up with him boastin and showing off and sauin he could beet every one with closed eyes and 1 hand i just had enough and btw its not me on the pic lol
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Vega
    ~nick~111 (I hate typing that)
    I'll agree that Cirenco playing crippled and blind is a pretty funny comment, but you straight up attacked him kind of out of the blue. Can't we all just get along?

    btw Kris - that's true about ~nick~111 clowning Cirenco for his grammar and then making all knids ov misstaks adn stuf. Mabee we shood all jus tpye lyk thsi and sea if enybudy notises.
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    lol im not bad in typing, I just can't be stuffed to write like this all the time. It just takes up to much time. lol by the way soz for befor lets all get along, but still Cirenco try not to boast to much thanks.
    Vega's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    whats a time barrier?
    Cloudwalk Time Trial mike flips
    CIRENCO is amazing. Hes allowed to boast. So am I, so is Vega, so is Dk and so on... There is no rule that says we should all be modest

    and just so you know nick... no offense but what Cirenco said was not arrogant and he wasnt boastin, he was just teasing Vega, and hes earned the right to do so

    And i play on the toilet... is there a problem with that?
    What else should i do on the toilet... i get bored!!!
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    Riding School - 1st to 26.xx
    Double Sprint - 1st to 19.xx
    Sinus Mountains - 1st to 30.xx
    Underground - 1st to 16.xx
    Hellraider - 1st to 23.xx
    Vanilla Sky - 1st to 36.xx
    Golden Gate - 1st to 28.xx

    That's what _alex_ was referring to by his comment on my Sinus game.
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Vega
    some of my best games have been accomplished on the porcelain throne
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Kristopher
    I was at a Nintendo forum once, and they all type poorly.

    I just got 28:14; maybe I can join your club soon.
    Vega's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    Ah i c
    Time Trial Champions bones
    did cirenco just speak english

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    more levelpacks worth points bones
    i do love your levelpack mike it is amazing will you play mine when it comes out it will be my first try at a levelpack.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    just make sure a palm tx could use it =)
    online version bones
    it is a good idea but the best way to keep unwanted people out is to need a name and password given to your bike or die account by sz


    what do you think sz it is worth a shot
    more levelpacks worth points mike flips
    of course ill play it, just let me know when
    Vega's game on Jurassic Parking mike flips
    near-perfect. Nice run man
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    whos pack is biker meets world cause i think i have one of the best times there its on opposite reaction a 11:60 its pretty good wat times did u get??
    Kristopher's game on Hellraider Kristopher
    Close.
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    Close.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    U.S.A. Tops Chart!!
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Kristopher
    We forgive you for calling Cirenco a newbie, but beating one of my levels that is not in the Time Trial does not make you a pro with the right to call others newbies.
    Cloudwalk Time Trial ~nick~111
    lol that was long time ago but im still proud cause for some reason im only good at lvls that are not time trail
    keith's game on Pick Five keith
    spinning
    more levelpacks worth points bones
    my palm just crashed and now i dont have the full version and all my levels are deleted so ill have to start over so it might be a while because my first concern is getting the full game back
    Medals by Country mike flips
    WOW, u needed like 300 people Kris!!
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    300 million, actually. The U.S. has always had many players, but none like Tabs or Cirenco. Although, I think the people in Thailand are actually American.
    Need Unlock Code Doeni
    I tried several times to get in contact by this email, no answer...
    I have bought a new device and need my reg-code again, there must be a way to get it!

    I'd be glad about an answer.
    Medals by Country Shane
    Kris, I don't think Gus is American.
    I read somewhere that he IR beams recordings to Alex's palm due to sync problems. That's some serious beaming action
    Gus, your country needs you
    Medals by Country Cirenco
    Typical of the allied gringos looking for because not they can single
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    Is that all you got man? You beat me by .10?

    I can overcome this. I'm not even that happy with my game anyway

    So I will match your eyes closed and one hand. But I will also tape my fingers together and have my legs tied up behind my back as I hang glide upside down across the Pacific ocean in the dead of winter at peak storm season with sharks lurking below....all while sipping scolding hot cocoa
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Gus
    Not gonna have broken fingers as well????? Come on Vega you can do it!

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    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    I just broke all my fingers on the one hand I will use....and I broke my leg in half just because
    Now I am ready for you Cirenco!
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    I could beat this with three hands tied behind my back! I could beat this with my back tied behind my back!! As soon as someone makes that possible, I will beat this.
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Cirenco
    Play then because as humorist I do not see much him future
    Big level editor bug bones
    austron this happened to me because i downloaded the folder instead of the file.. just delete it and then install the file only... let me know how it works out


    bones
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    i wont be impressed until one of you cuts off your head, and uses the pressure of the blood that is gushing to beat this level...
    Bug fixes Nate
    That Bug I had on the previous version hasn't been fixed.
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    Ha! I did that already!!! Twice!!!!!
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    right on Kris
    Medals by Country Cirenco
    It is the hour to give a lesson to the allies
    mike flips's game on Underground bones
    i always try tapping the brakes as soon as a land at the beggining area
    Kristopher's game on Wet Stone Kristopher
    Wheelie.
    Kristopher's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    *Sigh*
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    I thought I was joking, but maybe not.
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    U.S.A. Team strikes back!!
    Kristopher's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    pure ownage

    Beware, Cirenco will eat u for taking his medal , better start improving the konecniks!

    But good run, it was a matter of time before people figured out the trick
    mike flips's game on Underground mike flips
    the key for this level is the boost of power that you do for the final jump, depending on your speed getting to the final jump, you may or may not need to break slightly...
    Kristopher's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    I'm not sure what the trick is, but I figured there might be one since PMD had the Gold. My route is similar to DavidKing's.

    If Cirenco wants my medals, he can take this one.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk PMD
    Did any of you use this path? When I got the Gold (before you all passed me), I hadn't seen anyone use this slightly different method.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    I didn't use this route, although I thought about it.
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    Good job Kris! But don't get too excited

    The only reason I didn't get a much better score is because I spilled hot cocoa on me and it made me look down at the sharks. Then the wind picked up and blew me into a violent downfall. I then dropped my treo650 and caught it with my broken hand midair. After catching it, I only achieved 27.56! Next time no excuses though

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    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    Nice alternative to PMD's route.
    I know I will probably lose the Gold, but it is fun to beat you temporarily.
    P.S. You probably could have had Gold if you balanced the front wheel toward the finish at the end.
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    yea, nice upsidedown thingi...

    all this talk is tempting me to break a few bones and join in the pain... i mean fun!
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Cirenco
    I beat it. Vega goes to a doctor the game is affecting you the brain. As it says somebody that way 26.XX is possible
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    LOL I LOVE CIRENCOS COMMENTS
    bye spencer6
    nevermind, i have been braking some records with my m515!
    despite having to put it in solid mode and turning the ghost off.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    you should also see which hand they play with left right or for people like nick 111 left paw right paw HAHA
    Golden Club bones
    i voted for vega and am getting people in my school to do the same because i still cant do it on my palm without dying later

    p.s. play bones' levelpack when it comes out and mf olympics by mike flips because it is amazing
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Kristopher
    Most of us use both hands.
    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/bookmarkme/

    You can go to these two pages:
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/bookmarkme/myprofile.html
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/bookmarkme/forum.html

    to add the ticker at the bottom of the page for your profile and the forum. You can bookmark those two pages instead of going to the main page to see the Recent Changes Ticker.

    (BTW, I got the frame, icon, and JavaScript from this site )

    Does anyone want the Freestyle Page to get updated? I will update it if people will suggest movies for it.
    PMD's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    I have successfully performed this trick about 3 times now but just haven't finished the level yet with it. I will eventually but most of time I don't use this method. Pretty cool though. I thought I would be the first to do it if I landed it but I see that you beat me to it. Nice job PMD!
    PMD's game on Mount Kinabalu mike flips
    congrats
    mike flips's game on Cactus Cirenco
    OMG!
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Cirenco
    This is mine
    Golden Club Cirenco
    R.I.P Tabs.

    you can be the following one
    Golden Club PMD
    WOW. Cirenco and Mike Flips! Sorry TABS. I think that might be a record for Golds lost in one day--8.

    If the medal count stays as it is today, Cirenco will pass Tabs for the overall Gold Club leader in 172 days on May 18, 2007. Enjoy it while it lasts.
    Golden Club mike flips
    R.I.P
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    yes we know that Cirenco.....cuz like you're the one that submitted it and everything

    But I will beat this so get ready! I am going to ditch the hot cocoa so I can concentrate a little more under such dangerous conditions
    mike flips's game on Cactus mike flips
    I started my own club
    Golden Club Vega
    Cirenco - you must be crazy. That's the only way I can make myself understand how you can do this! Yup. I think I figured it out. You are well beyond insane
    Cirenco's game on KL City Centre mike flips
    U took it back again

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    Golden Club Kristopher
    It seems strategic to me. Cirenco wants to be #1 here.
    Golden Club Vega
    stategic...yes, of course
    easy...no

    I just don't know how he does it. And Mike Flips too. These guys are really in the zone right now. They are claiming golds like it's child's play but in reality it's very difficult. For Cirenco to take that many golds at once from a great player like Tabs is just plain nutzoid.
    Golden Club mike flips
    Its just a matter of finding a solid route and developing it.

    As well, its also about finding new routes or areas where there is lots of room for improvement. Look at what i did in the standard levels.

    I beat Hellraider which had stood for a while. Then this sparked a whole competition on that level because people realized that the time could be beaten and new routes were discovered.

    The same thing on golden gate, that gold was over a year old i think and in a matter of days we cut the time down by more then a second.

    Same with sawtooth, i got gold then Alex's school all played it and improved by over a second. Likewise with Pipe Universe.

    Then theres the levels such as Cloudwalk and Vertical Avenue that PMD started new waves on. And even Vanilla Sky, Vega prompted both me and Gus to try the level again and we both beat the old gold.


    The trick is just find a level you like, and play it a lot until you can beat it all the time. Then look for little tricks that help speed you up along the way. Vega, you of all people know that never giving up is key to the golds.
    Golden Club Vega
    Of course Mike. But I have never been able to obtain golds at such a high rate. Maybe one every now and then, but many in one day is very hard to do. That's really more what I am referring to. Those kinds of gains are seen more in brand new level packs, but many of yours and Cirenco's new golds are on well established levels that already had pretty good gold times.

    Also, I have noticed the wave effect as well. With Hellraider, you beat Oliver's time first, but what started the crazy competition was when I posted the 23.xx. With Golden Gate, you were probably done with that level but then I posted a 29.84 and caused a competition between you and me for the gold. With Cloudwalk, I would say Cirenco was pretty much done with that level and PMD's time probably had nothing to do with Cirenco beating it. Then I posted the 27.68 and Cirenco got mad and now everyone is joining in. Anyway, I am not trying to steal credit or anything goofy like that, but these levels were sort of ‘stale’ when I posted on these and I didn't choose to play them based on what someone had done weeks ago. So I kinda feel like my recent postings have caused waves of competition on Vanilla Sky, Hellraider, Golden Gate, and Cloudwalk because every time there was an immediate response…and I plan to cause more waves throughout the standard levels for quite a while
    Golden Club mike flips
    yea, but look at who you were taking the golds from... thats the difference

    Each gold u took sparked a wave cuz u were taking from players who could actually challenge and sometimes overcome you. I was just taking them from people who either didnt notice, or didnt care. Nonetheless, these waves are what make the game challenging, so keep on sparking
    Golden Club Kristopher
    I join in the waves when I can because it is fun. Why take a Gold from someone who stopped playing months ago and doesn't care when I can take it from active players? It seems more challenging to take from the active players. And sometimes I need a new route from you guys to improve my time.
    Golden Club Vega
    I see what you are saying, but be careful to think that taking golds from Oliver is a safe bet. I have seen him come back in little appearences and post awesome games just when you least expect him to. Anyway, I know you and Cirenco are causing more waves in this game than I am Mike. Just one look at the standings & accomplishments and that becomes evident very quickly.
    Golden Club PMD
    I agree with Vega in that getting a Gold can be done on an established level if you are willing to invest quite a bit of effort to get it, but what you guys have shown is the ability to just roll over these levels like the people playing them before were novices.

    When you describe finding the right path and improving on it, that is the way it is done, but you guys seem to be able to do it rapidly and make it look easy. For me, it takes hundreds of tries to get it just right.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Volcano is back, too!
    Shane's game on Playground Henoch
    Wow, another contender in playground
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    WHY SHANE WHY
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    give me a little while just gotta finish up some stuff for tomoro
    Shane's game on Playground Shane
    Well that was short-lived; another visit from the medal fairy last night :p
    Well done Mike.
    Like everyone is saying, its amazing how you respond so quickly. Perhaps you have a team of BoD slaves locked in your basement & all playing for food (or a sip of your cocoa)
    Shane's game on Playground Vega
    no... I am the one with cocoa

    I would like to see Kassssullllaaaalalala beat you guys now... ha!
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    Yea, Vega has the cocoa!

    But how did u know shane!! i have little BoD munchkins locked up in cages downstairs. They thrive off of gold medals so i dont have to pay them with food or anything... pretty cost effective.
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    I smashed this gold. Will post in the next few hours
    Cirenco's game on Cloudwalk mike flips
    JUST POST NOW WERE ALL ANXIOUS!!!
    pumb.org Time Trial Vega
    Gus - so why haven't you submitted yet? If you have gold here, you are missing out everyday for gold club points that could be yours
    Golden Club Kristopher
    I'm working on a Golden Club projection for the top 30 players based upon their current score and their Gold medals. (It only accounts for the current 30 Golden Club champions.)


    Golden Club Projected Results: In 100 Days

    #01 Tabs 8770
    #02 DavidKing 7691
    #03 PrayeR 7513
    #04 Cirenco 6948
    #05 Oliver 6629
    #06 rachman! 5966
    #07 You Qi 4034
    #08 Aleksey 2996
    #09 mike flips 2900
    #10 Bálint 2812
    #11 Ruben 2509
    #12 Vega 1982
    #13 Smalls 1869
    #14 MATA 1828
    #15 Vin 1768
    #16 _alex_ 1567
    #17 Kristopher 1395
    #18 Sena 1194
    #19 Gus 1154
    #20 CD 1050
    #21 PMD 913
    #22 The Veenk 844
    #23 Volcano 770
    #24 Pazos 719
    #25 Louis 614
    #26 dai 584
    #27 Lee 577
    #28 SDil 510
    #29 Rouch 454
    #30 LeoCuellar 365


    Golden Club Projected Results: In 200 Days

    #01 Cirenco 10248
    #02 DavidKing 9591
    #03 Tabs 9470
    #04 PrayeR 7713
    #05 Oliver 6729
    #06 rachman! 6066
    #07 mike flips 4500
    #08 You Qi 4134
    #09 Aleksey 3196
    #10 Bálint 3012
    #11 Vega 2682
    #12 Ruben 2609
    #13 Smalls 2469
    #14 Kristopher 1995
    #15 Vin 1968
    #16 MATA 1928
    #17 _alex_ 1867
    #18 Gus 1654
    #19 PMD 1313
    #20 Sena 1294
    #21 CD 1150
    #22 The Veenk 944
    #23 Pazos 819
    #24 Lee 777
    #25 Volcano 770
    #26 Louis 714
    #27 dai 584
    #28 SDil 510
    #29 Rouch 454
    #30 LeoCuellar 365


    Golden Club Projected Results: In 50000 Days (That is over 100 years. )

    #01 Cirenco 1653648
    #02 DavidKing 955791
    #03 mike flips 801300
    #04 Tabs 358070
    #05 Vega 351282
    #06 Smalls 301269
    #07 Kristopher 300795
    #08 Gus 250654
    #09 PMD 200513
    #10 _alex_ 151267
    #11 PrayeR 107313
    #12 Aleksey 102796
    #13 Bálint 102612
    #14 Vin 101568
    #15 Lee 100377
    #16 Oliver 56529
    #17 rachman! 55866
    #18 You Qi 53934
    #19 Ruben 52409
    #20 MATA 51728
    #21 Sena 51094
    #22 CD 50950
    #23 The Veenk 50744
    #24 Pazos 50619
    #25 Louis 50514
    #26 Volcano 770
    #27 dai 584
    #28 SDil 510
    #29 Rouch 454
    #30 LeoCuellar 365
    Ghost's game on Cablecar Kristopher
    Why submit failed games if they are not public?
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    Quite good, but it may not last as Gold.

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    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    Yah but cmon Kris - don't you know me by now? I plan on beating it myself anyway
    Kristopher's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    really great play Kris... very different from mine.
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    flyin over planes
    Vega's game on Golden Gate Vega
    cool plane trick

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=73884
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk bones
    so you might as well show this and double sprint then

    bones


    p.s. i will have master ko revisited coming out soon

    p.p.s. got the idea from kristopher ill also have newbie pack revisited and new deal revisited later

    Vega's game on Golden Gate bones
    that was amazing
    Vega's game on Golden Gate mike flips
    nah, he needed a runup to get over the plane ive done it just going strait
    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Kristopher
    Even if I can't set too many Time Trial records, I am still pioneering the level editor. I'd revisit all of the Hall of Fame levels myself, but I'm trying new things with the level editor instead. I think I'll make some more levels soon.
    DavidKing's game on The Well DavidKing
    Kris's route.
    pumb.org Time Trial Gus
    Hotsync not working again...amd palm refuses to charge :/
    DavidKing's game on The Well Kristopher
    I wasn't sure if it could get this fast!
    DavidKing's game on The Well mike flips
    nice time
    Time Trial Champions Vega
    Wow! It's amazing how close the race is for first place between MF, DK & Cir! Nobody else is even close to you 3
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Yea, but look at Dk's sweet 15... he still has one level missing there !!!

    nonetheless yea, we are pretty far ahead
    mike flips's game on Cactus Henoch
    Another munchkin Mike? Great Job
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    I know someone who will make the competition tougher than this time. He should be an active player and has a lot of gold medal, but doesn't submit sooo many games. It's you Vega. If you submit all the games you play (not waiting until it get's gold ), the top position will be a hot seat
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    nahhhhhhhh i dont think Vega could hack it

    Time Trial Champions Vega
    I already have over 2000 standard points if I submitted everything :o !
    Vega's game on Jurassic Parking Hugo
    Pinche afeminbado maricon chupame los huevos
    Vega's game on Jurassic Parking Cirenco
    Comentario de salón de este aparecido.

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    Time Trial Champions Vega
    Mike - How can you tell which level he hasn't submitted?. The only way i would know how is to click on every single level and manually look thru each one to find if DK is on there somewhere near the top. Is there a way to view a players scores in the other level packs similar to how you can view all of each player's scores in the standard pack on one screen?
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    It is a very useful (and simple) trick Vega...

    Click on DK's name and it takes you to his profile. Then on the right side it shows all of his standard levels right?
    And if u click on any other level pack it takes u to that specific pack right?

    However!!!! If you look beside each level pack, there is a little folder, click on this folder instead of the name of the pack, and it will expand the entire level so that u can see that level pack in the same way u can see everyone's standard pack.

    Hope that helps you

    OMG is that why you only play standard? you thot people could only see your standard levels so you never bothered playing any others?!?!?!?!?! ? LOL

    Cirenco's game on Tatra Cirenco
    This trick does not leave to me but it is possible to do
    Time Trial Champions Vega
    Dang man! I had NO idea you could do that. I have always wondered why you had to hunt and peck for everyone's games in the other packs. So when I would click on a player and I want to find their medals, I have always just clicked through each game to see where they got their medals from. But this is WAY better! Thanks for the tip Mike
    Cirenco's game on Tatra mike flips
    I tried that hundreds of times, it never worked
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    LOL someone wasted hours and hours and hours of clicking over the years... and it wasnt me
    Cirenco's game on Tatra Kristopher
    Oliver played this level; maybe Vega can, too, and we can have another "wave".
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Vega, you must have missed the first question here:

    http://bike.toyspring.com/view.php?c=116&cp=0

    Time Trial Champions Vega
    Yup. I catch most comments but that one slipped by me
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    I got stuck in the updraft, and only lost one point to Shane.
    Kristopher's game on Clay Serpent Kristopher
    3-way tie!
    Kristopher's game on Floors Kristopher
    Freestyling.
    Kristopher's game on Floors Kristopher
    Freestyling - failed, but maybe better.
    Kristopher's game on Dome Kristopher
    So close!
    Omaha Beach Time Trial bones
    i remade this level in my pack master ko revisited and it isnt as hard but still kinda hard
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    Well, after Vega knows the fact you should be careful Mike
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    always am
    Smalls's game on Touch Bricks mike flips
    Wow
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    sweet my highest ranking on a game yet
    Time Trial Champions bones
    vega you really should publish just so everyone has someone new to catch up to

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    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    yeah but which hand do you have on the default setting buttons
    because i hold it with both too
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Kristopher
    I probably misunderstand your question; the 5-way navigator is in the middle. I have the map and pause buttons at the left of my Zire 72s, but that doesn't matter much.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    wow kristopher you submitted in the same minute i did
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    i meant which hand do you use for the 5 way navigator
    Free Throw bones
    well ive played it and almost made it as a ball cause i died barely touching the front rim as i came down
    Bottle bones
    is the diffuculty on this level a joke
    You Qi's game on U Jump bones
    that was the craziest shit i have ever seen in my life and i wont stop till i now how that happened
    Cloudwalk Time Trial bones
    nick that was less than a week ago what do you mean a long time?
    Cloudwalk Time Trial bones
    my bad 8 days not that big a difference
    Bottle Kristopher
    It was a joke in the real Bottle, too. Sometimes I put very easy levels in, so there are fewer chances of a player getting stuck at two consecutive, hard levels.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    I think most people hold it like a gameboy and use their thumbs to play...

    Personally, on my 5 way navigator i use my right thumb to accellerate, brake, press right, and turn around... my left thumb only presses left

    Im pretty sure thumbs are the best way to go, even if your palm has landscape view and u can play with it sideways, dont... keep it upright and use the thumbs

    ... unless you dont have thumbs, then use whatever works
    You Qi's game on U Jump mike flips
    the bike went through the first layer of ground but not the second, so it rode on the second layer and forced its way back onto the first, thats why it stretched and then sprung
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Cirenco
    I only use the right thumb and I already have a mark in the finger of as much playing (it is not joke), so she did not joke when she said that she played with a single hand . At the moment my zire 31 is bad because apparently I exerted much pressure in the right side of the button. A solution that I have is to change that button by another one of palm what it would force to me to use both hands but would take a good time in accustoming to me. These days while I am out of play I will transform into Dr. CIRENCO where any consultation can do me of secrets of some games or to treat more serious compulsive players and than they need psychological aid as Kassula… I return soon
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    Dr. CIRENCO, can i have some advise on Orr's "Nose", i want to get up to 2nd.

    Kassula really does need psychological aid... he's been playing Playground for 2 weeks straight and is going crazy.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Kristopher
    I use Zire 72s controls like mike flips. The Tapwave Zodiac layout is different, and my left thumb only turns the biker around on it. (And it opens the map.)
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    I use only my left pinky finger for all buttons (and I am right handed)
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    i thot u used ur teeth Vega!?

    Golden Club mike flips
    We get so many golds because we have a storage depot, with many many golds, and strategically we release them as we see fit.

    JoJo's game on Double Sprint JoJo
    After first passing the tree, the biker turns around and completes the rest of the course facing left.
    Cirenco's game on Nose Cirenco
    Because she is my first patient you you have been favored, here the only difference with our distant Prayer friend is that I go more express once I take off myself of the nose, that obtains myself restraining in the indicated place

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    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    Dr Cirenco....Please give me all your secrets on Malysz, Spike Cave, UJump and Pipe Universe please!

    Also, if you could make every game of yours public so I can treat my disease of not being able to beat you at some other levels that would be great! Please help me cure that terrible disease

    Thanks Doc!
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    Actually I am not being honest about using my pinky. I just stare at my treo and control the bike with my mind and it goes right where I want it to. This is how I obtain gold!
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Kristopher
    Dr. Cirenco, I am having nightmares about mastering the longest Bike or Die! level in the Hall of Fame, because after I master it, some foreigner beats my time by 16 seconds!
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    if i get within one second will you open?

    cause if so ill try every day 50 times a day
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    Dr. Cirenco, i am having problems with the quality of comments on this subject and how they really relate to the topic, answer soon
    Multiplayer bones
    i think there should be a multiplayer device where the other player becomes the ghost so you would need 1.4
    Multiplayer Kristopher
    I think this would be too hard to implement. Bike or Die! already has enough things to do that don't really improve the game, like music control on the Tapwave Zodiac, and SD file managing.

    If you haven't noticed, very few games have a multi-player option, because it is hard to add. Warfare Inc, Micro Quad, and Battle Cake Xmas are the only games I have seen with Bluetooth game play. Warfare works well, but Micro Quad loses the connection if the Palms can't communicate for more than a second, and Battle Cake Xmas never worked for me.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    bones lots of people are within 1 second already. If anybody gets a 20:30 or better then I'll open this
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    i just got 20.46 and will submit monday. in fact i just had a hot streak cause i did that on the first try and upped my riding school part 2 up to 12.34
    Vin's game on Double Sprint bones
    dude on monday i will be pawning you down to a bronze
    it is my first medal
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Vin probably doesn't care because he doesn't play anymore.
    P.S. I am using a program to calculate 2^1000000. It has calculated 2^350000 already.
    Vin's game on Double Sprint bones
    i have no clue what that means.
    Lee's game on Lunar Ice bones
    ive tried this way to many times to not appreciate this. good run
    Smalls's game on Bike O'Clock bones
    hes in his own club and gus wants in bad
    JoJo's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    if u got a good time it would be a cool run
    Cirenco's game on Nose mike flips
    wow amazing run
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    Cirenco cant help you with those levels Vega, cuz if you end up beating his time, then i will beat your time and then he will have to work hard to get the gold back. If he doesnt help u he keeps his gold...
    Report a bug Jordan
    device crash and level loses win status
    I can use the "send" option on my treo to send items from the notepad, from zlauncher, and from many other programs as an attachment via the chatter-email program, but when I try to do it with bike or die, it not only resets the device, but the recording that I was trying to send suddenly becomes a regular recording and doesn't count as a winning level any more so I'm unable to play levels past it that I should have access to! This has happened to me twice now. For now, I just manually find the recording with zlauncher and send it from there which works but can be a pain to figure out which recording is which file.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    Mike - I play the best I can on every level so if that means I can get gold I will. You are my friend and all, but I play to win So if you can beat my times go for it man! I may take gold on a couple more standards though. I welcome you, Cir and anyone else as a challenger! May the best man win!
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    or woman

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    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    lol just dont play any more of mine please... thanx
    Biker's Cafe Kristopher
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page
    I thought about starting a Bike or Die! page at wikipedia.com, but it looks like someone beat me to it - by only a week!!?

    The page is
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_or_Die

    Anyone signed up for free at wikipedia.com can edit this page. It might be better for newbies to read that page, than to have them go through the entire forum here. Also, this page can be proof that Bike or Die! is the best Palm game.
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page mike flips
    its pretty cool, i can edit it later this week, it says its locked right now, but when i figure out how to edit it, ill spend a while writing up everything i can think of
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page Kristopher
    I think it may have been locked because I was editing it. Right now, we should just add endless content to it, and organize the topics later.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Cirenco
    Don vega you have been very bold the last time with my person but as I am a good professional I will try to help it. “Malysz”: that more aid than that if the video is public I am going it to have to derive to that they review his eyes to him. “Spike Cave”: The answer is” vanilla sky “how to prayer it managed to lower that time, understood. ” U Jump “and” P.Universe “we left it for a next occasion is not opportunist.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Cirenco
    Kristopher, always somebody will surpass to us, you must be satisfied to has it more and not to that way walk crying.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Cirenco
    bones, I also ask that sometimes
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    Vin's game on Double Sprint bones
    what does that mean!!!
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    The "^" stands for exponent. To get 2^(1 million), you have to multiply a number by the number 2 a million times.

    You have to finish this chart to make it 1 million numbers long:
    2
    4
    8
    16
    32
    64
    128
    256
    ...
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Kristopher
    He did it!! And DK moves up in Orr's Levels, the Hall of Fame, and the Golden Club.
    JoJo's game on Double Sprint bones
    i just tried and it is easy to do but it is pretty cool
    Live Chat bones
    if sz decides to make a chat place it is a good idea but there should be hosts to a room so that not just anyone can come in
    Level based ground friction? bones
    forum over due to 1.4
    the bike bones
    if it is not just a frame less devices could use it and the physics could get screwed up
    Zoom out - see more area bones
    im for it
    DavidKing's game on Tatra bones
    yeah but how long till mike flips beats one or two of his games
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    you should publish when i get my silver on monday about 6 in the morning your time mine will be secret but if you make yours public not only to i gurantee to get under 20.xx i will publish that 19 second video within 2 weeks
    Oliver's game on Double Sprint bones
    please do vega
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Vega
    ?? Um.... no comprendo Doc! But thx anyway tho

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    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    boy you aure are confident. there's a big gap between 20:46 and 19.xx my friend. Good luck to you
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    *sure
    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    doesnt really matter what i do bones, he still has one level unsubmitted... assuming he gets 5th place or so on it, he will get 95 more points. But im still close, and considering ive played 9 months and he's played probably since 2004 i guess im doing alright
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Kristopher
    PrayeR discovered the flip at the beginning of Vanilla Sky that made the times one second faster. I think he means there is something like that in Spike Cave.
    I think he said he will leave Pipe Universe a secret until later.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here mike flips
    i just took the normal route when i had gold on spike cave, same with pipe universe
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Cirenco
    And this it is the parasitic style of the king of the copy. You are going to pay expensive walking robbing ideas and not to share them. You will lose most of your golds and also the first place is time thing. The doctor now will transform itself into soldier.
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here Cirenco
    SPRING some already they know it, that is the key of everything
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    ill be on it starting monday and yes i am confident that im just missing one little detail and that will ower my time
    Kristopher's game on Cloudwalk bones
    wouldnt it be faster to not hit the brakes on the big cloud and ramp up to the skinny cloud upside down and then speed off of it
    Thought i'd put Lee's idea here bones
    we need a new area called ASK DR. CIRENCO

    haha
    Vin's game on Double Sprint bones
    you must get really bored huh?
    Vega's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    just stay low to the ground bones, my time can be greatly improved, its just a matter of patience and perserverance which i currently do not have . Focusing on just this level, I am certain you will get within 0.5 of Vega if not closer.
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page mike flips
    i added some new stuff, although it is not perfectly organized, can u fix it up kris so it looks good?
    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    i think you just have to break precisely, like in the level fly, and you can flip right up onto the first rail. Ive almost done it once...

    DavidKing's game on Tatra DavidKing
    I have ever said, the gold medal is only fictitious, still there are many beautiful things in true world, play games, for me, just enjoy the enjoyment among them, if you really want, take away all of my gold medals, my friend - Cirenco
    , such you have more than 50 gold medal, congratulations, talk about and share, only Lee is a person really qualified to speak.

    As for the position of the first, I really don't care.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Focus on ANY level enough and you will really get to know the level well. I thought I knew this level well when 20.56 was my best. Then I scored better then 20.30 over 100 times. But it took me thousands of tries and many small adjustments to go from 20.20 to 19.xx. I have scored 19.xx 12 times, and NOW I believe I know this level well. There is still much work to be done for you to advance here bones, but with enough grit you can do it!
    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    U want us to take away your gold medals?
    Vin's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Not at all.
    "Speak softly and carry a big number."
    Henoch's game on Pipe Universe Henoch
    Does anybody has ever used the right wall?
    Henoch's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=7795

    (Something is wrong with the forum, and everyone in the Freestyle competition has 0 or 1 votes. It has been like that for almost five hours now. )

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    Freestyle Competition Henoch
    What's happen here? Everybody has only 1 vote
    Henoch's game on Pipe Universe Henoch
    Gee Kris, I thought i'm the only one who see the error in freestyle competition. I thought my computer has some problem in it, but then i'm not alone
    Anyway, how could you remember which game number has ever played like this, since there are a lot of gameplay here?
    Mine here is slightly different from the existing game
    Henoch's game on Pipe Universe Kristopher
    I remembered it was Satrian's Freestyle entry, so I just looked through the first few pages of the Freestyle competition. I'm not sure why I remembered, though...
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    All the games are ordered by date too

    Hopefully what SZ did was restart the competition in the hopes that current players could vote for current games so that the current freestyle champion represents what active players believe to be the best freestyle game?
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    Oh, and if this is the case...

    Sz - you need to recalculate the Golden Club scores so that the Freestyle gold (which rachman has had for a while) is not included in the total number. It is not fair that just because there arent many people who care to vote, he gets to remain in first place.

    While you are at it, you can remove "bottle" and "shelf" from the calculation as well. Just because they were the firsts ones doesnt mean they deserve the golden club points. I guess they can keep the gold medals but they should not be getting points.

    P.S. does anyone think downhill madness is a bottle level?
    Freestyle Competition Vega
    I agree that Rachman should not have earned all these Gold Club points for his freestyle game. And bottle levels should definitely be removed from gold club. I agree with Mike....Downhill Madness is a bottle. The top ten are from 11:06 - 11:14 and 10-20 are from 11:16-11:24. That means .18 seconds seperates #20 from gold, which is crazy. cool idea for a level for sure, but I guess nobody could forsee that the 2nd half of the level would not be used.
    Cloudwalk Time Trial Vega
    Ha! I smashed my own gold again! First to 26.xx I will post it later today ......
    Freestyle Competition Kristopher
    The Freestyle competition was not reset; go to individual games, and you can see they have more than one vote.

    http://bike.toyspring.com/game.php?g=11002

    Also, if you go to the above page, and click "Level 5 - Cablecar", it doesn't go to the right page.



    P.S. Freestyle entries to not contribute to the Golden Club scores. Roel was Freestyle champion for months, but only has four points in the Golden Club.
    Freestyle Competition Vega
    Hey good catch about Roel only having 4 points Kris! I'll bet that was the 4 days he owned gold on Underground B4 someone beat his new found route So I guess Rachman's points don't include his Freestyle. That's the way it should be.
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    actually i know have a question to ask........ if i hotsynced and then someone took my palm deleted bike or die and office documents and i hotsync when i get the cord back (doog chewed through wire) will the high times come back...more specifically will the riding school part two and double sprint come back?
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    *now =)
    Freestyle Competition mike flips
    but im sure bottle does...
    Golden Club mike flips
    TABS - YOU HAVE YET TO COMMENT...

    i wonder what he has to say, maybe hes at home locked in his room playing BoD till his fingers bleed??? or maybe he quit BoD??? or maybe hes on vacation???!!!
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Vega
    Hey maybe there is some truth to what ~nick111~ was saying the other day about you Cirenco. Sorry but I think you are out of line calling DavidKing the king of copy. Maybe you are just joking but you need to make that known. He was the established champion of BOD long before you. Also, Mike Flips says he had already tried that trick hundreds of times and maybe so have a lot of other people and they just didn't post their 'failed' attemps. DK is the first to acutally succeed at this trick so I would say that he is the originator at this point. Perhaps DK had already attempted this trick many times previously and your submitted game sparked him to go for it. Who knows! But don't call DK a parasite and a copy cat. That's rude and from what I have observed DavidKing respects fellow BOD players. You are an excellent player Cirenco, but don't be a jerk because we want to like you!
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    mike flips just told me i could get it back when i hotsync so its all good ya'll.. thnks for the support mike
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    you to vega.(which suprised me since im trying to catch up to your game)
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    come on in comment it vote for it..whadever
    RaNo's game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    wow this is weird cause this used to be an amazing score and now it sucks
    Medals by Country bones
    i just helped usa fight back
    Sylvain's game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    no hes probably a teenager going through puberty trying to sound cool cusing

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    Vega's game on Cloudwalk bones
    new time barrier congrats
    Medals by Country Kristopher
    Silvers will only help if we are tied for Golds.
    Total Race Vega
    Hey what does everyone think of also having a total race time category for each level pack? It seems like this would be very simple to implement
    Total Race mike flips
    do we really need?
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Cirenco
    I believe that there are certain codes that would be due to respect. I do not like your style DK and I am sincere in saying it, in this game it is necessary to also contribute and I believe that your anxieties to want to demonstrate that you are the best one expose to you. For example the fact of not finishing to a game and mantenerte by on the total race is a message for which we are behind saying to us that ahún you continue being the best one. The respect gains and for my there are players who respect much more, how Lee that is creative and always public its routes that later are perfected by others. To copy and to stay in the end it can do anyone, to create nevertheless no. If you offer your medals to me I go by them then, but I am sure that you tried to respond of some way because you are in addition false and your commentaries are not equal to your form to act.
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Vega
    Hmmm.....maybe I will slowly attack YOUR gold medals Cirenco. You pretty much wouldn't be able to anything about it......except cry Beat my times, Cirenco...turn my gold to silver! You will spend many hours and many days trying only to end in frustration. This will distract you from achieving great times in other levels and your ranking will decrease as others pass you
    Total Race Vega
    well not really. but it favors my style of play that's probably why I mention it
    Total Race mike flips
    yea but then ud have to submit the other 15 levels
    Total Race Vega
    right
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    ill publish if 8 people ask me too. And dont just make a ghost player
    Medals by Country bones
    we are only three away but with all those being cirenco's it might get diffucult. although we would still lose if it came to silvers .......haha
    Levelpack Explorer bones
    has anyone heard from sz lately cause i hink he's ignoring my levelpack
    DavidKing's game on Tatra bones
    well i see one good thing and one bad thing.....the good thing is if vega attacks cirencos golds then usa can move up after two medals.......the bad thing is there isnt a dr.cirenco to help me =(
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    has anyone else noticed half the forums arent working???? oh and also, Kris, you know the chat u made? why dont we just get one on this site instead so everyone can use it.
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    WTF is wrong with u shane, do u have nothing better to do than go after my golds until it annoys me so much i dont play them anymore??? i thot you were a nice guy but this is just annoying, its like u are making me waste my time for no reason, u already had second place, and u will end up with second again... why do u do this???

    if u keep annoying me like this, i might have to start playing braking school again... so be warned
    Total Race Shane
    I like Vega's idea, total time in each levelpack could be interesting. Also, maybe the time gap between your game and the leader's game on each level could be shown somewhere
    Shane's game on Playground Vega
    Ha! Wow! Great job Shane. I thought Mike had this one for sure.

    But Mike you already have 2nd place now too so it's no different if you take it back
    mike flips's game on Playground mike flips
    Total Race Vega
    Shane - I don't understand what you mean about the time gap thing ????
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    ya, but i had it first, then outta no where he comes and takes it, i get it back, then 2 weeks later again, etc... when i take it back, i just take it right back, no suspense or anything... and the reason i said wat i said was because he did the exact same thing with braking school... maybe if he did it to other people? but no its just me, w.e. its reclaimed already so theres not much of an issue anymore

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    Total Race mike flips
    he means like if i have 21 and u have 17.98 it will say -3.02 like in racing
    Total Race Vega
    Oh!...like in every single level it will tell you how far from gold you are? Like for Cirenco in Cloudwalk it would say :54
    Total Race mike flips
    u just couldnt resist that one?
    bones's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    That's much to ask for, but fortunately, 2^3 of my friends want it open.
    Tatra Time Trial DavidKing
    This may be the best trick, one trick better than your trick ,so Cirenco, Please don't say again I am ¡§king of copy¡¨, otherwise use my trick now, is it copy? That is your idea, but I do not think.

    I use your trick in "Watch your head" and "Fruits", though i beat your time luckily, but i have opened, I think perhaps I shouldn't use it, but you use Oliver¡¦s trick in Tatra, but does not open it, though there is not secret in that, you can tell me, what is your standard?

    perhaps you hope I leave BoD. That should be not far.
    DavidKing's game on Tatra DavidKing
    This may be the best trick, everybody can beat me, enjoy!
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Kristopher
    You shouldn't get mad at DK; he has played longer than everyone who posted here (I think), and is tired of being Time Trial Champion. There is no reason for him to take the Time Trial Champion position if he doesn't want it, but he still wants medals.
    Also, he did not steal this idea just because Cirenco mentioned it. He could have waited for someone else to complete this route first, and could have discovered the trick himself based upon such a fast time.
    Tatra Time Trial DavidKing
    Thank the opinion of Vega, I really miss rachman! Now, Perhaps he is not the best now, but he made me happy entry this great game.
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Vega
    Oh My Gosh! HA HA HA! That is ridiculous. I cannot believe it. All that mish mash over the other trick and now this. That is hilarious DK. Good one.
    Total Race Vega
    I had to It's ok I'm not finished with that level anyway!
    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    i remember when i first started playing, i tried to do this all day lol then when i couldnt get it, i tried going all the way down and flipping up... Nice time DK
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    The forum has been broken for two days (and five minutes), so I will email Sz about it.

    Chat rooms are hard to write - maybe harder than writing this forum. That is why I got a free one instead of making my own. I think it would not be used enough to bother with.
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    ooops, i haven't noticed the forum is broken...
    (because of my new game which is really really close )
    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    i guess now that i am a better player i can do the trick, i just got 19.xx, thanx for the inspiration
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    SZ ur alive

    Kris im sure it would be used quite often, there are often people posting back and forth in forums cuz theres no where else to talk... and its not really hard to program, we dont need anything fancy...

    we just need a typing area, and a chat area, nothing fancy it can look like the comments we already have except its live, what do u think sz?
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page Sz
    nice! thank you, guys

    (btw. as you can see the BoD forum works again )
    (btw#2 - i made a clickable link)
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    I guess I don't need to email Sz.
    Total Race Kristopher
    I don't think we need more Total Race divisions, because it distracts from the Hall of Fame, but I am going to be #3 if _alex_ and DK don't play more.

    Shane, that is already calculated in my ranking charts.
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/Shane.txt
    Cave Dweller............. 46 (+101.84)
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Kristopher
    Wow. Medals aside, I think DK is the best player. This is proof - and a way for me to beat _alex_ in the Total Race.

    Maybe Cirenco will be nicer now.
    DavidKing's game on Tatra Henoch
    It is so fantastic but simple comparing with the old style (i wonder if could i do it or not)

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    DavidKing's game on Tatra mike flips
    Yea, what ive realized is that the best players are those who take a far fetched idea and actually turn it into a gold medal. I know i have found a lot of places where a game could be improved, but i always think to myself, "nah, its too hard to do" and then when games like Red Murder, This, Vertical avenue... are all drastically improved i realize who the great players are.

    On vertical avenue, i remember going to fast and doing the trick, and then dying. I thought to myself, that is really cool, but also that i would never be able to do that again and that it was just a fluke. Then when PMD submitted it, i realized it was possible.

    Now when i play levels, when i see something like this, i always spend time trying to do it, thats how ive been getting so many medals recently.
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    then lets let them speak for themselves
    Time Trial Champions bones
    hey sz if you got my levelpack post it when you have a chance cause it is really cool and also.....does this game work on the palm tx?
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    The game should run on a T|X. A fix in v1.3x fixed a minor bug for the T|X. :O)

    ^^ He got a clown nose by accident.
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page Kristopher
    It looks almost complete now. There are a few empty sections, but most of the things are explained. Please keep adding to it. Put things in the Miscellaneous section if you just want to type a lot.
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page mike flips
    nice kris u organized all the random stuff i wrote
    Levelpack Explorer Sz
    sorry for the delay! your levelpack is now online
    Total Race Henoch
    Shane: Yeah Shane, Kris has made the program for calculating the time gap, showing your position comparing with the leader, etc. Kris has made a good job here , but he have to update his ranking chart often

    Kris: Maybe you can made some minor improvement with your program that can tell us the total race division for each levelpack, so we don't have to made Sz to put it down here. What do you think?
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page Henoch
    Hey, nice work Mike and Kris. I have some question two months ago, why don't we have any Bike or Die article in Wikipedia, and you guys have realize it. Good Job
    Shane's game on Playground Henoch
    Hey calm down Mike. At least with both of you competing in the playgroud, Kassulllalalala will have a very long long time to return back
    Time Trial Champions Sz
    mike: you want a chat? - here it is forum.php?chat=1
    News Sz
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool

  • For everyone: easy to use Chat (visible as one of the forum sections)

  • For webpage owners: FlashTool - this thing can create swf files from your recordings (including your own unofficial levelpacks). Great way to show off your riding and design skills (the idea comes from   MacGuru)
  • New website features: Chat and FlashTool MacGuru
    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you...

    New website features: Chat and FlashTool mike flips
    WOW CHAT IS AWESOME!!! do u think u can put something that says "3 minutes ago" or something to let us no when the last comment was made?

    THANKS A LOT SZ U ROCK
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    im very calm for now...
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool mike flips
    actually, it would have to say the time, not how long ago
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool Kristopher
    This is amazing!! I'll have to put this in the Wiki!
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    its a shame... i cant use the ghost bike with my oldie palm, so ill keep riding alone...
    Time Trial Champions Vega
    MATA - bro, get a new palm. Ghostbike is awesome! You'll love it if you do!
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool Kristopher
    If anyone wants to see some new movies before I add another page to my site for them:

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/temp/1.swf
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/temp/2.swf
    ...
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/temp/8.swf


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    New website features: Chat and FlashTool Sz
    ooops, i forgot to update the css file, the chat texts were supposed to fade out as they get older (instead of boring timestamps )

    now it should work as designed.
    Tatra Time Trial Cirenco
    Sincerely it had tried it also, but by your time I suspected that you had used my idea (after somebody obtained it was going to propose that), I believe that this was intentional by your part that is to say, you knew that with that time many would try to make the trick that I proposed, if he is thus this exposes your obseción to want to demonstrate that you are superior in the game and without contributing much. because you maintained it privily. Those that I leave open are because I do not contribute anything new and I do not like to walk robbing ideas, but you are mistaken if I do not have anything in Treats (different conclusion). Thus it happens in many of my secrets if I surpass to somebody copying the trick I publish it otherwise I do not do it. But also treatment to give him to dynamism to the game proposing sometimes new ideas as it happened in “fruits” once you copied not you deigned in sharing it without you it requested it. I do not hope that you leave the bod, the only thing that bothers to me is your obseción to demonstrate to the others that you are superior and your egoísmo towards the game.
    Tatra Time Trial Vega
    What's up with these unofficial 'rules' of secret versus public. Isn't the whole point of having secret option so you can 'hide' how you played so others cannot see it. yes?????
    Ok so then players should be able to do WHATEVER they choose to do with that option. You make a lot of assumptions which you have no concrete evidence for Cirenco. You have no idea how DK played when he got 31.xx.

    Maybe he used the same trick from your video, but maybe he used his shorter trick and it just took him longer to complete it the first time.

    Maybe one day I will beat a level with a trick that saves a lot of time but sit and wait at the flag until .5 seconds before the current gold and then finish. Then keep it secret to fool people into thinking I just had a really good run. If I do, that's my choice. Then let others figure out what I did. It's not dishonest or sly. It's tricky. It's strategy! Ease up a bit Cirenco. Play how you want and let others play how they want.
    Time Trial Champions bones
    chat is awesome
    Tatra Time Trial mike flips
    lol Vega i do that all the time
    Time Trial Champions bones
    yayyy my palm is fixed and everything is back
    Pipe Universe Time Trial bones
    i just figured out a new route that could take it down to 35 if i can do it. it is really hard!!!!!!!!!!
    Shane's game on Playground Shane
    What's all this?
    Mike, chill ! I am nice
    Played this yesterday for the first time since whenever it was I held the gold for several minutes :p , improved my time and submitted - isn't that what I'm supposed to do? Anyway I won’t bother again and its open.

    Braking School is another story, that took thousands of tries & I was trying to get the Gold. Why would I spend all that time on a difficult level just to annoy you?
    Total Race Shane
    Vega, yes I meant exactly as Kris has shown - nice job Kris, thanks for the link and of course the cave dweller thing
    Pazos's game on Hill bones
    sz should make people who havent played i a year show all there games by him doing it himself whhen he has time
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    Is it just me, or is it time for a new level pack? Anyone have any good ideas for levels? Message me and I will try to assemble one to see if I can get a good pack together.
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    A time trial level pack that is
    Pipe Universe Time Trial Kristopher
    You're probably not the first one to see it, but I think it is an impossible route.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    But you haven't even finished the New Deal levelpack!!
    Wait one week; I will make more levels.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    i got a whole whack of levels from way back that i can update with 1.4 features
    Shane's game on Playground mike flips
    ok fine ur nice
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    fine kris five more...happy now
    Time Trial Champions bones
    me and mike flips have an amazing levelpack coming out soon
    Sinus Mountains Time Trial bones
    why cant i clear the third hill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    jonas's game on Gravicorners bones
    how many times did you try that

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    Ideas bones
    Need help
    if you need help on any level post it here and maybe peop0le can help you out so let it begin
    Levelpack Explorer Colby
    hey guys and gals, check out my level pack colbylimpics-x. the last level is fun so you have something to look forward to. some levels i forgot to put in a flag. they are all pretty easy.
    thanks
    colby in oregon
    Need help Kristopher
    I can use the Flash Tool to put movies on my Bike or Die! site, so players can just watch the games instead of asking. I will add to my site in a few days.
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    Some things I've noticed / Tips for Level Creators:
    Pretty much all Hall of Fame Levels...
  • have a clear message of what to do, there is not much confusion = a direct path can usually be seen
  • most are beatable by all with the exception of a few levels
  • something amazing i noticed and something i try to do when i make levels is that i make all my levels beatable by new players, although some levels will take a while to get a hang of, however, even though they are all relatively "easy" i test my levels many times and make sure there are tricks that skilled players can figure out. This makes all my levels interesting for all types of players. This is also what all the hall of fame levels so far have been done. Whenever a new player mentions a level, all skilled players immediately think "i know the trick for that level.."
  • colours = almost all levels have a 2 colour sky and no levels have the same colour ground as sky, although it is cool to look at, if all the colours are the same, the player can not see where they are riding, and this creates confusion which is not good
  • the 10 Second rule = a rule i made up. If a level begins with 10 seconds of doing nothing, it doesnt matter if the player is holding just up, or if the bike moves by itself, the level is "boring" and "annoying" to complete. There always needs to be excitement and too much of nothing will ruin a level.
  • overuse of features = because there are all these new features out, people will try and make levels with all the features, and use tons of features to make the levels "cool." Instead of doing that which creates confusion, keep the levels simple with only a little bit of the new features. Dont just say, ok whole level has updraft and every wall is slippery and we need 18 out of 34 flags. Be smart when using the new features.
  • Test your levels - this is really important... no matter what skill level you are, test your levels and make sure they are beatable. If you can not beat a level, ask a more skilled player to look at it if you need to. If the level can not be beat within the first 10 minutes... and you dont think it can ever be beat, usually the best idea is to make it an easier level, or get rid of the level. Although braking school and cave dweller were like that, we at least all knew they were beatable from looking at them.
  • The two level in a row rule is also important = never put two really hard levels in a row. If you do so, a lot of players may possibly get stuck and not be able to advance in your levelpack. The exception to this rule is if the levels are at the end of the pack, like Newbie pack (parachute and die or die). These levels became avaialable to most people, and since they were the last 2 levels, nobody got "stuck"
  • Have a friend test out your levels if possible, someone else's opinion is always helpful as you can see your level from an outsider's perspective
  • Keep the levels between 10-30 seconds for them to be most enjoyable - the majority of people enjoy shorter faster levels. I am not saying longer levels are not enjoyable there are many enjoyable long levels as well. HOwever, a majority of the levels should be the shorter kind with a few longer levels spaced out in between. Do not put 2 long levels in a row.
  • smooth levels = a level needs to look professional if you want to get into the hall of fame, make sure all your lines are smooth. As well, make sure there are no places where the bike falls through the ground. If this is happening, split the line segment that the biker falls through, into 2 or more segments by presing the bottom left editing tool twice.
  • Naming the levels is also important = try making clever names that relate to your level, not random names.
  • Themed levels - can also be a nice feature of a level pack. We see this in hall of fame play with levels such as Konecnik and Konecnik down. Even kristopher's new pack Biker meets world has a nice theme within it with the "Ribbon" levels. There can also be themed levelpacks, such as my pack, "MF Olympics" and Kris's maze pack
  • If you do not have any ideas for a level and are experiencing "Bike or Die Editor's Block" you have two choices... you can 1) Talk to Dr. Cirenco, he can always help , or 2) Look around you and create a level with anything you see, right now im looking at a phone, i can make a level called "phone," where i have to ride over the phone cord which is wavy and hilly, then i have to climb up to the phone, and make it across all the buttons to the finish. That would be a nice entertaining level that i made up out of nowhere.
  • anothere few random tips:
  • make the level in the middle of the area, if it is too close to the boundaries of the editing area, it will have glitches
  • before you make a level, try defining your work area by enlarging the original square to create the borders of the level you are going to make
  • keep bottles in mind, if a player has to press under 5 keys in order to beat the level, it may be a bottle level, look at bottle, shelf, and downhill madness, none of them need over 10 key presses to get a top time.


    Hmm... i cant think of anything else at the moment , but i hope this helps everyone...

    Good Luck Making Levels Everybody
  • New website features: Chat and FlashTool spencer6
    it would be nice if it said if that person is still logged in or not
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool mike flips
    yea, maybe at the top right it can say people logged into chat... also a timestamp is useful.. the fading is awesome but i cant tell if its 1 minute or 5 minutes

    and a little bit of sound if ur window is in the background, so you know when there is a message (can be turned on and off)

    also underneath the explanation of fading, how bout say, "Press Enter with no text typed, to refresh"
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool bones
    im upset cause chat doesnt work on a palm tx
    Levelpack Explorer Vega
    I am considering making a 10-12 level pack and I would be extremely meticulous with them and consider all possible improvements before publishing.... similar to you Mike. That should be fun
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Nice tips. Don't forget the wikipedia page!
    Lee's game on Tatra Lee
    Silver for a day - cheers for sharing
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool Kristopher
    I have two suggestions:

  • For the Chat, could you make a web page that has all of the chat comments from the last 24 hours? I don't want to miss anything.

  • For the Flash Tool, when the tool gives you the .swf file, could it give the file a better name? I get something like BikeorDieMovie, BikeorDieMovie(2), BikeorDieMovie(3)... Could it name the .swf file based upon the level name?

    --
    Bones, do any chats work on the T|X?
  • Ideas Kristopher
    Next Step for the Flash Tool!
    I would like an option in the flash tool: Instead of uploading a levelpack file (when producing a movie), there could be another option to select one of the levelpacks already on this site.
    Then, in addition to giving a .swf file, the Flash Tool could also save the flash file on the web site. Then, when we go to a level page (I.E. http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1437), we could see all of the flash files that have been uploaded for that level.
    Eventually, there would be movies for almost every level, to show how they are played. Also, the person who uploaded their movie could enter it in the Freestyle competition.
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    i decided to show cause some school friends wanted it 10 of thm to be exact
    bones's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Nice job bones. Incredible how different our games are. Also I really like your new bones pic.... great character!
    bones's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    i think i know vega's route, musta been impossible to get right vega???

    my time is pretty much the same as this except bones is really smooth at the far right and im not
    bones's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Mike - ya know... I think you think I thought to use the block on the right to stretch the bike and snag the flag and then slingshot back toward the finish. Everyone's tried that but the bike either breaks or stretches to the max and never comes close enough. At this point, I believe it's not impossible, even for me
    Pipe Universe Time Trial Cirenco
    If it is the route in which takings in the end the flag located in the right end the jump is impossible because there is no sufuciente space to reach speed and to reach it.
    Cirenco's game on Up! Up! Up! Gus
    Nice but i gotta 41:96 that I'll submit sometime.
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Wow! I have many bronze medals!
    Kristopher's game on Tatra Kristopher
    Bronze for a day; maybe Gold tomorrow!

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    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    oh man, thats what ive been trying to get 20:30... now i have no clue how to up my score to get you publish...back to the drawing board
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    oh and vega it isnt a character thats my hand haha
    Vega's game on The Right Way bones
    i dont think it is possible to get faster unless you boost at the top of the hill you go down at the end which could only make it like 19:02
    Ideas bones
    Better known or respected players
    i think there should be another chart for people to give a point to anyone they think is good or who they respect or who they just plain out like
    Multiplayer bones
    maybe not if they just recieve the new player as the ghost and it constantly feed data over IR
    Time Trial Champions bones
    i think we are overdue for a new medal from vega that suprises us at what he did...
    Better known or respected players Vega
    Hard to control the validity (just like freestyle comp) but I really like this idea. I guess this would be like a popularity contest when it all came down to it. I have always wondered who likes who in this game!
    Time Trial Champions Vega
    all in good time, bones
    Better known or respected players bones
    that is what i meant in shorter tems... and not one vote either just you dont vote for who you dont like
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool bones
    yes.....but only like one kind =(
    Bike or Die! Wikipedia Page bones
    wow good stuff on there ..i guess we have two sites for bike or die that are actually good sites
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    i thought a good feature could be either having the entire level slowly rotate or having small blocks go in a certain pattern set at a different speed

    there hows that for tottaly new =)
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool spencer6
    chat doesnt work on the tx because it doesnt have java-script
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder bones
    its incredible how no one has challenged this time yet....he has like a 10 second lead. that doesnt happen in any other level
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder bones
    my bad 6 seconds, but still...
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    Bones, thats because it is one of the hardest tricks in all the levels to do...notice only 3 people ever did it and they are ranked 1,2,3

    But yea, maybe you should challenge it
    Better known or respected players Kristopher
    The Freestyle competition has been rigged by popular players. And popular players should be self evident, so they don't need more notice.
    Just add all of the popular names throughout the Wikipedia article.
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder Kristopher
    Cave Dweller...
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder mike flips
    "one of the hardest"
    Better known or respected players mike flips
    Theres no point in this competition... id dominate and it would ruin the fun for everyone!!!

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    Better known or respected players Kristopher
    I reviewed Bike or Die!, probably had the most ideas, have the most posts here, have my own Bike or Die! site, have three Palms, organized the Wikipedia page, had over a dozen different avatars here, have the most games online, Beta tested 3D Mines, made the most levels (especially when I release them all), I had the most games played (although I might not, now), emailed all of my recordings to Sz for him to degug v1.4, added a "Bike" category for my emails, changed Bones' picture for him, got my dad to buy the game for his Treo, have three levels in the Hall of Fame (plus Sinus Revisited), am thinking of getting another Tapwave Zodiac for this game, have the most popular levelpack at Palmgear (even though it was not the first), and have the Bike or Die! button in my signature at Astraware.
    But we could vote anyway.
    Shelf mike flips
    WOW KRIS!!!! I just saw what u wrote!!! ur like a psychic
    Better known or respected players Vega
    Oh yah Kris? Oh yah?

    well I'm pretty good at BOD... ok?
    Time Trial Champions Smalls
    I will wait, and I haven't submitted those levels because I had no need to yet. Good luck on those levels Kris and Mike!
    Shelf Kristopher
    I didn't suspect the biker would go through the wall, but I did think everyone might beat this in 11-13 seconds. But surprisingly, this is now a Bottle, and Flip That Flipper is not!
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    You need to submit now, because I beat you in this Time Trial.
    Better known or respected players bones
    wow what a comment....thanks for the pic by the way i couldnt figure that out at all!
    Cirenco's game on Red Murder bones
    i will as soon as i get under 19 seconds in double sprint
    that is presuming i can do it
    Shelf mike flips
    well, the flipper level is pretty bottley too, but yea it was kinda coool that you said it mite become the next bottle and it did
    Better known or respected players Cirenco
    Dr Cirenco says that to this subject is GAY
    Better known or respected players bones
    thats because dr. cirenco is afraid he would not place well
    Better known or respected players Kristopher
    Of course we don't need a chart, and it really doesn't have much to do with Bike or Die!
    Notable contributions, both what I mentioned, and Vega's medals, should be part of Bike or Die! history, but not a competition chart.
    ƒlip that ƒlipper... Time Trial Kristopher
    There is a four-way tie for #7-10, but that doesn't really make this a Bottle, because the top five players in this level all have different times. (In the real Bottle, all of the medalists were tied.)
    MATA's game on Clay Serpent Kristopher
    MATA ties for first!! And he is back in the Hall of Fame Top 10!
    Ideas bones
    should they be forced to show
    should players who havent submitted in over a year have their games made public because of that. im sure if this is done sz could make the games public
    Levelpack Explorer bones
    if anybody wants their pack tested before they send it in ill test it and tell you what i think if you want

    send it to tripyir13@aol.com
    should they be forced to show Kristopher
    No. The new players will never admit defeat.
    Vega's game on Sinus Mountains bones
    m too thats why i put all three votes on this game
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    but seriously kris got me this bod button cause im bad with computers just a fast typer
    Total Race Kristopher
    "Pipe Universe",656.8 << It took 656.8 seconds to complete the Standard Levels (Adding the record times for the 25 levels)
    "Street",350.14
    "Konecnik Down",251.38 << Master KO's Levels is the shortest levelpack
    "Tatra",350.88
    "Oil Drop",275.1
    "Congratulations!",688.28 << The Summer Pack was really long!
    "Die or Die!",478.88
    "Braking school",458.88
    "Pick Five",377.12 << Shortest of the last four levelpacks

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    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    hey vega if you wont publish that 20.00 sec game could you at least give me some pointers on how to shave off.16

    let me know soon
    Spike Mountain Time Trial DanceMidget
    Hey, I didn't get credit for making this level.

    I'm sad.
    This is The Two, i just couldn't remember my password so I made a new account.
    My Bike or Die! Site bones
    how often do you update the posts on the forum for your website
    Big Bike or Die! Forum!!! {:-D) bones
    you should update again cause i wanna know where im at =)
    Shelf bones
    kris was right the first time cause even if you do it the right way you only have to hit like 4 to 6 buttons
    Better known or respected players bones
    than we should have a page showing historical players
    one that will always be there
    Need help bones
    you only have two things to download. you should make it so people can send you games that they dont mind people downloading themselves
    Need help Kristopher
    They can always email things to me.

    P.S. I am waiting for Sz to respond here, to know if I should add more flash content myself: http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php?th=11869
    should they be forced to show mike flips
    what games would be that useful anyways? the only one i can think of is hellevator...
    Better known or respected players mike flips
    yea bones its called golden club

    should they be forced to show mike flips
    but thats only 9 months
    should they be forced to show bones
    there are plenty of levels where even though they arent in first they could help others figure out how to up their scores
    Better known or respected players bones
    yes but eventually great players wo dont play anymore will be at the bottom and newbies will be like...huh they're just alright but one gold isnt that big a deal....
    Need help bones
    does anyone have a program where i can watch recordings on my computer without getting on the net if so email it to me
    Ideas Spencer
    Any Chance of BoD on Windows Mobile?
    I can't play BoD anymore since I don't have a Palm. I think it would be a good idea to make a Windows Mobile version so that all the BoD fans who have a Windows Treo or other Windows device can play it.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    I have gotten this same score 3 times! Sooooo frustrating! Oh well, silver's not bad on the most played level
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    BTW, my best time without the trick is 12.14! Lucky run!
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    BTW...my best time without the new way is 12.14
    Any Chance of BoD on Windows Mobile? PMD
    I haven't tied it, but there is a program that allows you to run Palm apps on Windows Mobile called StyleTap Platform. Here is a list of applications reported by users to work on it, including Bike or Die. I have't tried it myself and it is slightly pricey. Let me know if it works for you if you try it.

    http://styletap.helpserve.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=219

    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 PMD
    Sweet run! The only non-Vega Gold in the free levels and probably the end of ...lol's Gold run (since it was his only medal and he doesn't seem to be playing).

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    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    holy crap that is amazing.. great job smalls
    Oliver's game on Touch Bricks bones
    i wonder if it would be faster to pop up on the third block?????????????????????????????????????
    BikeOrDie - Colbylimpics-X Colby
    high 2 is impossible because i forgot to put a flag in it.
    Report a bug Smalls
    Unknown Hall of fame Category
    Whenever I watch a movie I can't click the level name on the left side because it says that it's an "unknown hall of fame category" I use the back button, so it's fine, I just don't want the problem to get worse.
    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    I don't update the post count very often; it is currently only counting the first 400 pages of the forum (90% of all posts).

    ---

    I updated the ranking charts, with a "Semi Race" ranking.
    I.E. # Master KO's Levels: 20 (+ 26.54) # in Lee's chart means that, if he tied for Gold in every Master KO's level, he could gain 26.54 seconds in the Total Race. Since the time is based upon the times of the Gold medals, even the levelpack leaders will be a few seconds behind perfect:
    # Standard Levels: 1 (+ 16.46) #
    (Mike flips leads the Standard Levels, but he could improve by 16.46 seconds by tying for Gold on every level.)

    These numbers can show, which levelpacks are affecting the Total Race the most. Even though DavidKing is #2 in the Summer Pack, he could improve his Total Race time 10x as much in the Summer Pack as in Master KO's levels. This is partially due to Cave Dweller, which has had much more effect than Die or Die and Braking School.
    # Standard Levels: 3 (+ 32.16) #
    # SiuLun's Levels: 2 (+ 18.60) #
    # Master KO's Levels: 1 (+ 6.96) #
    # OrR's Levels: 1 (+ 11.46) #
    # You Qi Levels: 2 (+ 7.70) #
    # Summer Pack: 2 (+ 69.18) #
    # Newbie Pack: 1 (+ 16.56) #
    # Sweet Fifteen: 8 << Incomplete levelpack
    # New Deal: 1 (+ 16.38) #

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/ranking/index.html

    Unknown Hall of fame Category Kristopher
    This is a known bug caused by a new version of MySQL. Sz should have it (and the Freestyle bugs) fixed soon.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 mike flips
    this is a new way? it looks like the normal way

    nonetheless great run congratulations
    My Bike or Die! Site Ibanez
    Very useful level info - I can really see how bad I am now
    Does make it quick to see where to put the time in to improve rankings...well done.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    Wow! This is lightning fast Smalls. You may have just secured yourself the gold on this level for a very long time. I figured 11.8x was the best possible time and you did it. Only a fluke game with a fluke trick could beat this. I think this is the most difficult level in the standard levels to place well on because to get into top ten you need to equal Oliver's 12:20 that stood as gold for almost a year
    BikeOrDie - The Maze MacGuru
    I went to publish my movie... seems BOD LOST the recording... DAMN... and it was cool!
    My Bike or Die! Site bones
    let me know when you update your post count..... also i think the downloadable games to your palm is really sweet
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    also when you turn on bike or die at the beginnig screen you should be able to watch the recording of your choosing
    Lee's game on Square Lee
    so near, and yet so stupid
    Lee's game on Square Lee
    Does anyone else have any equally dumb near-misses on some kick-ass times?
    Lee's game on Square bones
    wow that sucks so bad
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 Smalls
    Thanks guys! Not easy to do, I guarantee that Not a different way though, just good run the same way. Lucky I guess!
    Lee's game on Square Vega
    I think probably everyone does. It's part of the deal. It's such a bummer when you think you have got it, and then make some ridiculous mistake in the end that you never make and you screw up a great run for nothing. This one is hard to watch tho cuz you were soooo close
    Unknown Hall of fame Category Smalls
    K. Sorry for not knowing. Oh well
    Unknown Hall of fame Category bones
    thanks for telling cause i have that problem too
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 bones
    this level is that one level that really gets under your skin when you cant beat it by the 5th time

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    MATA's game on Clay Serpent Smalls
    Nice one. Too close for comfort!
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 mike flips
    tell me about it... i never wanna play it again
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 Kristopher
    What skin?
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 Vega
    very funny Kris
    Laser's game on Sinus Revisited Laser
    Hmmm...down to silver- but it won't be too hard to regain my gold.
    Laser's game on Sinus Revisited mike flips
    Wow, what a lead!! Chalk one up for Canada
    Laser's game on Sinus Revisited Vega
    Ay Carumba! That's amazing Laser. You shaved almost 3 whole seconds off the gold. But Kris called it. He said there would be a 25.xx soon! Nice way to get on the map and make yourself known
    Laser's game on Sinus Revisited Laser
    I could technically shave off another half second or so, but I don't think I can stand playing this level for a LONG time!
    _alex_'s game on Loop 3 bones
    haha i used to have skin in 1804 but then the bacteria ate it all off.lol
    Kristopher's game on Sinus Revisited bones
    kris your comment is pyscic or however you spell that
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    man still no votes that sucks for me i guess
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    anyone agree with either of these ideas
    bones's game on Double Sprint Vega
    bones, this is a really great run but it's not freestyle. Usually a crazy trick or new route is popular in freestyle. hey that gives me an idea! I'll post something in 'ideas'
    Better known or respected players Vega
    hey I just got an idea! Instead of having a category about the most popular players, what if we could vote on favorite public games to watch. This would be separate from the freestyle competition. So like for example, let's say I really really liked Smalls new 11.86 game on RSP2. Let's say it's one of my favorites to watch. It would be cool to be able to vote for that game as a favorite. Infact I think this would be more fun than the freestyle comp because any and every game would be eligible! Sometimes the most amazing and exciting games to watch are not considered freestyle but they have more of an 'awe' factor anyway. What does everyone think of this?
    Better known or respected players Kristopher
    It would be nice to split the Freestyle into two competitions.
    Kristopher's game on Sinus Revisited Kristopher
    Open - I lost three seconds on the middle hill, so 25.xx was easy to estimate.
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    Anything from "Super Mario Brothers" would improve the game, but it may be hard to implement.
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    lol getting coins? mashing mushrooms... etc?

    That would be kinda cool, ive pretty much memorized super mario 1 so i could maybe make the first level of the game for my new pack coming out soon?
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Vega
    That would be sweet Mike. Do it!
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    My Maze levelpack reminded me that this game could simulate others, especially if some features were added. Landing on moving enemies and such would make this game more fun, but I doubt that will come in BoD v1.x.

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    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    i already started it, it is awesome, i will finish as fast as i can and will make it as realistic as possible. I will do everything i can to make it a hall of fame suitable level but that means SZ has to wait for my pack. Ill try and finish in next few days

    Im doing Super Mario Bros Original... World 1, Level 1
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    wow how we veered off topic but thanks for acknowledging my moving parts idea ..what do you think about the opening screen
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    also we should paint parts of levels different colors beside two for ground and two for sky
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    man i know its hard cause im stuck at 12.34!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Laser's game on Sinus Revisited Cirenco
    Congratulations I gain it. I will not try to recover it because it is difficult what did. It does not try to clear none more to me
    Medals by Country bones
    we need two more.......
    can it be done??? Vega
    Wow. I was just browsing thru the levels a bit and came across this. Quite a level! It seems a bit ludicrous to me to spend all this time making a very nice looking maze of a level that actually would be fun to play if it appeared possible to beat. But to work this long and hard on a level only to place a huge van right block the path seems crazy!! ?????? Maybe it's just me. Oh yah and that other part in the middle where there is a horizontal line through the entire section kinda puts a wrench in the whole deal too. Oh Well
    Medals by Country Vega
    Crazy! At this very moment in time......... Cirenco has 62 medals total and the entire United States has 62 medals.... So basically one dude has just as many as the entire United States ???!!!
    BikeOrDie - Colbylimpics-X Colby
    sorry hill 2 has no flag
    mike flips's game on Shark! mike flips
    OPENED its about time someone did...
    My Bike or Die! Site stutorker
    hey thanks for the ace site kris - the easter eggs have just made the most amazing game even MORE amazing. cheers mate & merry christmas
    My Bike or Die! Site mike flips
    Speaking of "Easter Eggs" is that what they are called in Europe. In N.A. we'd normally call them cheats or codes or something.
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features mike flips
    K well, i just finished the level...

    I tried to keep the proportions somewhat similar.

    I had 5 main problems.
    1) Bike or Die dude cant jump as high as mario. I didnt put in some of the up high stuff because it cant be seen anyways... although i put some in.
    2) Not enough objects are able to be put in. I wasnt able to put in grass and tree stumps to similate the little hills and bushes in the background.
    3) Length... the editor is not long enuf to take the whole level... i had to cut out the 3rd quarter of the level.
    4) Colour... we only get 2 main colours... i made the best of it tho.
    5) Difficulty... again i said mario can jump way higher. There were some points where i had to put lines so that the bike can ride over a jump because it can not jump it... or up the stair things.

    HOwever, even with all these problems it is still a great level and when i send in my pack soon you guys should relly like it.
    My Bike or Die! Site Kristopher
    I'm glad you like my site; suggestions are welcome.

    Easter Eggs are bonus features that don't help the player complete the game, but cheat codes do help the player complete the game.
    My Bike or Die! Site mike flips
    thanx kris
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    yeah i know but i figured some noobs would be like 'wow thats amazing' but oh well ill publish something cool eventually
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    People we havent heard from lately...

    Tabs...i would love to hear from you. Its unlike you to not comment for this long.

    Kassula...he came in with a bang and then vanished....

    Well, my vote is that they are both either locked up in some closet somewhere playing bike or die 24 hours a day, surviving off self-cannibalism...

    or maybe they quit???

    As well... The whole school from the UK... Alex, Gus, Nick... where are you all !!!

    Vega's game on Cloudwalk Vega
    I beat this gold again 26.88 & then 26.70
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    I've sent 3 new levelpacks totaling 90 new levels to Sz.

    The Crazy Files preview:
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/misc/the_crazy_files/index.html
    Pipe Universe Time Trial Schneider
    ive done the 35 sec route but i did it slowly and i can do it quiker i started the revoulution on touchbricks ill do it here too

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    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    ... That means I have made exactly 300 levels!!!!
    Pipe Universe Time Trial Kristopher
    Which new route?

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/misc/pipe_universe/index.html

    Pipe Universe Time Trial bones
    when you snag on the bottom and im sure there is room for sufficent speed
    Levelpack Explorer bones
    aww kris you almost made it!!
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    I didn't count right?
    Pipe Universe Time Trial bones
    actually i just tried and the only way is to do a wheelie into a push with your font wheel to get over the next pipe segment
    Levelpack Explorer bones
    oh i didnt count i meant your link
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial bones
    ...lol is back! i just saw his score go up in newbie pack on the bottom
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Kristopher
    He has not submitted since May. Scoring can change without new submissions.
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool Kristopher
    Chat Bug: The Text does not fade anymore.
    Chat Idea: Some other chat rooms have "bots." If a person in the chat room types, "chatters," a "bot," who is a virtual person in the chat room, could reply by listing the last five users who have visited the chat room. It could also say what time they were last there.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    At least I beat the other two levels on that page.
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool mike flips
    yea, and timestamping = useful... and maybe jusut at the right side of the screen, the people logged into chat?
    Pipe Universe Time Trial mike flips
    ... i tried it a lot a while back, i never managed to get over, the closest i got was my front wheel to hook onto the pipe thing but then i would just spring back leftwords...

    if there is a way of getting over, it is doing the spring thing but breaking in a way like eruption in sweet fifteen. I dont think its doable... but you never know.
    Pipe Universe Time Trial mike flips
    the first touchbricks new method didnt come out until after i submitted my freestyle in which my bike hooked onto the top and rode for a bit...
    Loop 1 Time Trial MATA
    jaja pendejos, vana ver como me los atoro... cirenco, que pedo, vasmoa a chingarnos a estos weyes o no?
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial bones
    than how can it go up ??
    New website features: Chat and FlashTool bones
    there should be an option to log into chat so it says at the corner true. but also there should be a spot on every page saying who left the last comment and when he did
    Medals by Country bones
    usa just needs one more gold....or 12 more silvers lol
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial Kristopher
    Suppose ...lol and player X are tied in the Newbie Pack, but in level Y (which is in the Newbie Pack), ...lol is #5, and player X is #8. ...lol would be ahead by three points in this level. But if another player Z gets a good time, and becomes #6 in level Y, then player X loses a point, and ...lol doesn't, so ...lol beats player X in the Newbie Pack, because X lost a point due to player Z, and ...lol didn't lose any points.
    Loop 1 Time Trial PMD
    Are we not allowed to try and get back a Gold that one of us held for 9 months and the other had only held for 3 days? What is wrong with that?

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    Loop 1 Time Trial Kristopher
    Mata does not understand the extreme, random, and ruthless competition here today.
    Loop 1 Time Trial bones
    haha hes lost in a sea of bronze
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    all right vega i give up.. i cant figure out how to reach 20.30 it is up to smeone else cause i cant get it.=(
    Vega's game on Double Sprint mike flips
    ... bones just ur run but faster...

    use my beginning... plus ur end = under 20.30

    i can try it a bit if u want
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    ypu try ill ty whoever wants to just as long as vega reveals at 20.30....but i will keep trying. send me your game on double sprint if you could mike id like to hav it to see your beginnig. you know my address
    Big Pool *Fire* bones
    not really.its almost pure luck
    Time Trial Champions bones
    i just talked to gus so no worries he'll come back. (he's just taking the week off) lol
    Vega's game on Double Sprint bones
    wait a minute we have the same beginning! still send me it so i can see which one is faster. rofl
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    wow he must really have been the best cause there are many games he submitted up to two years ago that people still cant beat
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    HUGE IDEA!! what if you could take a picture and have a program that makes it become bike or die compatible like you set up stuff take the pic. go to bike or design and it makes the lines and stuff for you!!!! what do you guys think?!
    I miss rachman! :( bones
    almost there mike but sz hasnt made this page we want yet so we might need to put it on kris's site cause im sure he likes it...don't you kris???
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features Kristopher
    This has been proposed before. (Graphic level import or something.)
    Medals by Country Smalls
    USA tops the charts...for the time being! Yeah!!!
    spencer6's game on Wheel Insider Smalls
    Sorry spencer6, you had it for a long time though! I tell you what...that's a hard time to beat!
    Smalls's game on Wheel Insider Smalls
    I got 12.16 a few times, 12.14 and 12.12 a couple of times each, then this. Lucky game!
    Medals by Country Smalls
    Never mind...my mistake. Oh well, maybe soon!
    Red and Gold bones
    its a very good newbie pack if you are even still playing
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 mike flips
    ... such as?
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 bones
    not the huge pros but average people.. we still use a lot of his routes tooday.(double sprint,skyway)
    New Bike or Design/Bike or Die features bones
    yes but can it be done? im sure there is some way to take pics either already on your palm or current photos and make them into bike or die levels?kris do you think it is possible?

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    Loop 1 Time Trial MATA
    lol!! I wrote that last night arriving home from a party, and i didnt remember it!!! jajaja sorry guys.... ok.. ill fight for it! youll see!!!
    Smalls's game on Wheel Insider Vega
    You are tearing this game up Smalls. This makes 10 golds for you now! Excellent work
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 Vega
    yes it's true rachman developed many of the routes we used, but we probably would have figured them out too. Take this level 4 example. I did this spring trick before I even saw anyone do it and Vin did it at the same time and we submitted without knowing. This is back when 12:34 and 12:40 was a big deal on RSP2

    So yes rachman may have discovered this trick first, but he never took it very far because look at the time (14.60). I think it's just a matter of time before routes on levels get figured out and the oldtimers in BOD get quite a bit of 'Legend" status simply because they were the first. The more I play this game, the more I realize that some of the accomplishments that were "sooooo amazing" at the time sorry to say but actually they kinda weren't really all that amazing.
    Loop 1 Time Trial Cirenco
    me quitaste 2 de plata y ahora me pedis ayuda , vas a tener que salvarte sólo por ahora, a menos que haga méritos ... esto ahora no es cómo antes güerito ahora hay una guerra por las medallas y hay que cuidarse la espalda .
    BOD - The Crazy Files bones
    looks awesome tell more when i play it..which is now
    alphabet bones
    this level was so fun to make and play
    BOD - Bones and Mike's Top 25 mike flips
    more like top 25

    there are some pretty crazy levels in here
    rachman!'s game on Riding School Part 2 mike flips
    and i never even thought the things were amazing... i figured a lot of things out just like you said Vega,

    i was actually disappointed because everytime i thought i had a crazy new trick, i found that someone did it already

    and that... vega... is the reason i never liked the current format of the golden club...

    if me, smalls, alex, louis, vin, gus... etc. (who have all been in the top 10 recently and have not been playing since the beginning) had been playing, there would be no rachman in the golden club...
    Smalls's game on Wheel Insider spencer6
    thanks alot! that was all i had left because now i have a pocket pc (which i'm writing this on) good job though
    Loop 1 Time Trial MATA
    jaja trankilo chileno, estaba pedo, y por supuesto que no quiero tu ayuda... afortunadamente este sigue siendo mi hobby eventual, y no me preocupa ganar tanto como a ti.Que hasta peleas con la gente jajaja.. Ademas, si me esfuerzo, no te vaya a pasar como al colo-colo!!
    Loop 1 Time Trial Smalls
    Sorry for taking the gold back, I had it for a long time, but I knew that it was very beatable. As it still is. No bad feelings I hope.
    Smalls's game on Wheel Insider Smalls
    Thanks Vega, when I get some time to play, I can do pretty well for myself, it's the time that I need.
    Lee's game on Half Normal Lee
    Another great miss right at the end.
    What did we used to say, before we said "DOH!"
    BOD - Bones and Mike's Top 25 bones
    yueah i sent it as top twenty five..wonder what happened
    bones bones
    this was fun to make..and eerie
    alphabet bones
    i think it could be a really cool end level for the next hall of fame pack(peronal opionion..feel free to agree)
    Riding School Part 2 Time Trial bones
    got it thaks!!
    BOD - Bones and Mike's Top 25 bones
    hey don't forget to leave comments on levels you like and any you think could have hall of fame potential
    BOD - Bones and Mike's Top 25 mike flips
    yea, a few of these have some good hall of fame potential although most of the ones i made are just for fun levels

    Lee's game on Half Normal Kristopher
    My game on Braking School was like this.

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    Kristopher's game on Braking school Kristopher
    Open. I went really fast down the big drop.
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    Come to this page ( http://bike.toyspring.com/levelpacks.php ), and see which levelpack stands out among the others.
    BOD - Binary Bikary Kristopher
    These levels can all be beat without turning the biker around, balancing, or braking. You just need to occasionally accelerate to win.
    I started this pack a long time ago, when my Fossil wrist PDA was new; it preceded MF Olympics as a themed levelpack.
    The Champions Kristopher
    This level has pictures of the (former) Top 10 Time Trial Champions. It shows how old this levelpack is.
    Through the Box Kristopher
    This is based on a level from Dieter.
    Dodge and Fall Combo Kristopher
    If you play this well, you can freefall most of the time.
    Revenge of the Wheel Kristopher
    This level takes a long time to load; I think it is only rivaled by ( http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1062 ).
    P.S. That is my logo.
    House Storming Kristopher
    Autolocomotion Kristopher
    The name should be self-explanatory; this is the easiest level!!
    Jail Break! Kristopher
    Now you know what a jail looks like.
    FBI: Hidden Lair Kristopher
    The best level!!!!
    Alien Civilizations Kristopher
    This would be better with the updraft.
    I used invisible lines instead.
    can it be done??? Kristopher
    I didn't see the shovel before.
    "Where's Waldo?"
    Watch the Movie Kristopher
    The first self-playing level for V1.4!
    Puzzle Kristopher
    I think this would be great in the Time Trial!
    Lose Your Lunch (and Die)! Kristopher
    See me beat this level:
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/misc/the_crazy_files/index.html
    Underground Finish Kristopher
    "Australia"
    Aaaaaaaaaaaa! Kristopher
    Where is the picture?
    Puzzle Kristopher
    You can see this level played at:
    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/temp/index.html
    (With some other levels, too. )
    Loop 1 Time Trial MATA
    f course not smalls... thats the goal isnt it??.. congrats, and ill fight my medal back... gj

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    BOD - The Crazy Files Kristopher
    This is actually the first levelpack I started. Some of these levels are from June 2005!
    I did not publish these for several reasons. I wanted each level to be better than the previous one, so some levels took 2+ hours to make. Then I wanted to add pictures, which I did. (I wish they would display correctly in the flash movies. ) Then I went back to improve the earlier levels. But I realized this pack was somewhat difficult, so I added a few flags that would be easy to get with the "Australia" Easter Egg. Then I played through the pack a few times. I found a bug that would make level #47 impossible. I still hadn't finished making level #46, because I wanted that to be the best level. I finished it a few days ago, but it might have been better.
    FBI: Hidden Lair mike flips
    pretty cool
    Gray Uphill Battle Kristopher
    To whoever rated this level: it is not hard!
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    its funny.. theres not a single time trial level in all BoD, where the hall of famers top 10 own the top 10 runs.
    Smalls's game on Jump Over Smalls
    Sort of sorry...
    BOD - The Crazy Files Vega
    2 hours Kris ! 2 hours?!!!! I have spent like 3 days making my Superman Returns Level and 4 days on my Batman Begins level. I have hardly even been playing anymore for the past week and a half.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? stutorker
    i'm on a lifedrive. i've got loads of ace games (especially emulated) - but BOD is the only game i have to rock everyday. it's the main reason i carry my lifedrive at all times
    FBI: Hidden Lair Vega
    Great idea for a level. Clever!
    BOD - The Crazy Files Kristopher
    Once you have made a few levels, the level editor becomes easier to use. If I had started by making perfect levels, it would have taken longer.
    BOD - The Crazy Files Vega
    Oh.....well I guess if I'm gonna do it, I gotta do it perfect. Maybe that's why I don't get much done because whether it's creating levels or playing levels, I suppose that's just my style...

    But I will say that I am learning the program very rapidly and my next levels should be easier for me to draw
    BOD - Bones and Mike's Top 25 bones
    i think a lil to da right has some potential if changed a little at the end but yeah...that was our mix up=( oh well
    BOD - The Crazy Files bones
    vega for your levels they have so much detail than almost all of these so your week was well spent
    Levelpack Explorer Vega
    Here is a breakdown of what I have planned for a movie level pack. I would estimate that I should be finished with it (about 12 levels in all) in the next 3 weeks

    Already Finised:
    Superman Returns
    Batman Begins

    Coming Soon:
    Pirates of the Caribbean
    Last Samurai
    Lord of the Rings
    Big Fish
    X-Men
    Indiana Jones
    Spiderman
    Back to the Future
    King Kong
    Die Hard

    Runner ups (maybe's):
    Willow
    Edward Scissorhands
    Count of Monte Cristo
    Princess Bride
    Gladiator
    Time Trial Champions bones
    every player has different strengths mata so odds are on that never happening
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    plus top 10 changes a lot
    BOD - The Crazy Files Kristopher
    http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodid=128614

    Biker's Cafe cjcobra
    Newbie - Can I skip Levels?
    I am new to Bike or Die. I am downloading levels, but is there a way to play different boards without beating all of them? I just want to play a few from each pack, but keep getting hit with the beat 2 in a row thing. Thanks,
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? cjcobra
    It's on my new Treo 680. Looks better than the Treo 600. Drinks battery though...
    Newbie - Can I skip Levels? mike flips
    2 things you can do...

    Using the bike or die editor, you can load the levels you want to play (the one after the 2 in a row) and u can click test play and then u can play the level, although it wont store for the hall of fame.

    Or, again using the editor, open the level you can not beat, and make a new start point at the part that gives you trouble. Then you can practice the hard part many times in a row until you are good enough. Then go back to Bike or Die and beat the level.

    good luck
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    oooh how is it,

    i just got a 650 (again, my first 650 had a camera problem) and then the 680 came out and at first i was really pissed because the 680 looks a lot nicer and doesnt have the antenna and has more internal memory...

    But... then when i found about the battery... i was glad i still have my 650. Ive only killed the battery 2 times ever and i use it a lot. I get at least 5-6 hours out of it.... i guess you win some and you lose some... look into getting an upgraded battery or a second battery pack, apparently it will only cost about 40 bux and then youre phone will never die

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    tarzan mike flips
    This one was really fun to make

    took a lot of sitting back and watching but in the end it worked out pretty nicely. It would be too boring for hall of fame in my opinion although the end has many possibilities, but too much of a wait to play it over and over again.
    I love everyone mike flips
    Everyone is my HUNNI
    swing to freedom mike flips
    This is similar to "Shotput" in my olympics... this was the first one i made before i changed it into an olympic level
    Mike's Level mike flips
    probably the best level i made in this pack, it has great hall of fame potential
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    anyway... there are 133 levels,i know is a little hard that to happen, and i dont know if it has ever happened, but at least in one level it should, and more in these days competition, where most of top 10ers try to get gold in EVERY level
    Newbie - Can I skip Levels? Kristopher
    Sometimes the Easter Eggs can help, by reducing gravity.

    See the Wikipedia article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_or_Die
    tarzan Kristopher
    Looks like 5.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/level.php?l=1568
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Henoch
    I have my 650, and because of BoD it has a lot of scratch on several buttons i usually use and also near those buttons Hey Mike did you buy the 680? If you bought it and you don't like it, you can throw it here to me
    Newbie - Can I skip Levels? Henoch
    I have another suggestion. Try harder. Look at the movies that available (Since one level has several ways to do, use the easier methods. Sometimes don't use the top 10 movies because their technique is very difficult to copy for a beginner, but better use the top 20 - top 50). And try harder, don't give up and hope you get more used to play this awesome game.
    I, myself never use the editor or the easter eggs
    baseball bones
    anyone think this has potential for hallof fame
    Newbie - Can I skip Levels? Kristopher
    The Easter Eggs are also for fun!
    Levelpack Explorer Kristopher
    I found an archive or something?
    http://szulat.prx.pl/bike-preview/levels.php?p=0&sc=0&so=1

    Extreme Curves Kristopher
    I just realized, you may be able to avoid the snowmen!
    baseball Kristopher
    I think those obstacles could be frustrating, but I can add this to the list of possible Hall of Fame levels.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Kristopher
    From what I read, the 680 is supposed to be smaller and cheaper than the other Treos, to compete with normal cell phones. I don't think it was supposed to be completely better than the 650. (I think the 700p was suppose to replace the 650.) The battery life is probably a result of the cheaper 680 price.
    BTW, there is a Treo battery with twice the capacity of the normal 650 battery somewhere.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Vega
    I use a 650
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? bones
    i have a pal tx =( ......but bike or die actually works very well on it.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? mike flips
    no, henoch, i didnt buy it because of the battery issues.
    Smalls's game on Riding School Part 2 ...lol
    Wow I come back after this long and you've beaten me! I would try to beat this but... I have no palm and haven't had it for a while. Darn. Great job, you deserve the gold.
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? Henoch
    Well, maybe you can use Seidio 2400 battery (or 3200 is there any kind of that?)

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    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Sweet! Top ten!
    Batman Vega
    Hey! Look what I found
    Batman Kristopher
    Ha ha, now this doesn't look like much.
    Save the Princess!! Vega
    I think I know what happened here. Sometimes you can accidentally touch the screen in a way that drags a point to a place you didn't intend it to. See the line that goes straight across through the wall on the top right. It appears that the dot came from the top of the tower and was accidentally dragged across and because it's so small compared to the level, 'lol' just didn't notice. I think if this is fixed (which of course would take about 10 seconds), this could be a level worth looking at. It certainly has a lot of character!
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Kristopher
    This took 1.5 hours of playing each night for four nights.
    Being so close to Gold (played three hours after I got silver) reminds me of Konecnik.
    I also got 36.70, but I think I could get 36.30.
    Batman mike flips
    wow, i completely forgot about this level, i remember playing it a while back
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back Kristopher
    I thought it was the other Catapult! When my biker found out the finish flag was missing, he was so mad, he crashed on purpose!
    Save the Princess!! mike flips
    Maybe he was making a statement about society? No matter what your goals are... or something like that?

    Or maybe it was a mistake?
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back mike flips
    Been there... done that...
    baseball mike flips
    Its kinda like Wet Stone but its nice
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back Kristopher
    Oh yeah, Mike Flips? Have you done this?
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back mike flips
    Everyday, its my nightly ritual...
    Kristopher's game on Catapult Back Kristopher
    I think I played this quite well. Can you do it with more freestyling?
    Batman bones
    vega yours is a hell of a lot better
    Medals by Country bones
    YYYYYAAAAAAYYYYYY
    Medals by Country Vega
    I think it's crazy that only 6 people in all of the United States have a gold medal in the HOF!
    Batman Vega
    thanks, check Kris's temp levels page. I changed it a bit and now it's even better!
    Medals by Country Cirenco
    my congratulations to the E.E.UU have demonstrated that several of you if you can make a player
    Medals by Country mike flips
    I think its crazy that u need all those people to beat Canada, Chile, and Taiwan
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    may i introduce a good friend of mine daledude

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    Report a bug Erich
    menu bug, new in 1.4a
    v.1.4 worked perfectly on my Clié TH55.

    After the update to 1.4a, the menus were not displayed properly anymore (I'm using the landscape mode, with the menu on the left side, in the top if you look at it in portrait mode). Only the first menu item (Game) was displayed, without any background color. I couln't choose any menu item and had to exit the game using the back button.

    Reinstalled the old v.1.4 solved the problem...
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Vega
    bones, you didn't play this did you? because we have been through that with like 10 other players at least. I am not saying you did but it looks kind of weird that daledude already got this good of a score with so little experience. It usually takes many many tries to get this kind of score on this level.

    Anyway just asking but other than that....Welcome to BOD daledude! and cool pic logo
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Bones didn't play this. He did give me his ghost though. If it looks similar that's why. Thats probably why I got this in less than a week too. I just got the full version a couple days ago so hopefully I'll get some more top ten scores.

    Thanks for the welcome.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    im really gonna stop with the daledude and just call you dale. or italian stallion if you remmember that.haha. oh and to vega i wouldnt waste my time with making a new person. thats pretty dumb to do
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    after all he has a better score than me on underground.why wouldn't i give that to my character instead.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Yeah, I'm pretty proud of my underground score. It's the only time I have that's better than bones's

    bones - Is it okay if I use your real name too?
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    yeah...just my first name though..




    p.s. dale i will beat your underground score eventually..oh and you have more than your showing.submit all your scores =)
    Medals by Country Laser
    My gold puts Canada above U.K.
    Watch out, World- we're coming!
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    _Alex_ had the same arguments. This is round #3 of school groups - why don't they stay longer?
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    I might go back to playing that level. If I can just finish it without going past the flag...
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Hey Kristopher, adam said to ask you about thisw problem I have with submitting times. Under recordings all my best times say "sent to the server" but they aren't showing up (only the first five levels have my times). Does it have something to do with the played by name?
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    p.s. adam = bones
    Medals by Country bones
    yeah laser, your gold and a little help from mike's 16 golds.lol
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Is amazing, no?
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Since this is all thanks to Adam's ghost, I'll make it public if he asks... or if Vega feels like sharing his movie...
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    dont make it public...i think its amazing that you got this score. way to go dale.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Okay, I think I'll still give you the ghost if you want it though.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    yeah ill get on chat for a minute if you are still here
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    vega and you all this should prove that he is his own person not me twice
    Ideas bones
    bike or design for computer
    have bike or design for computer could make it a lot easier for people with small palm screens plus it can become a lot easier by adding new tools.if this happens any type of computer shouldnt be a limitation.(im suggesting this cause i think its a good idea and my touchscreen is really bad)

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    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    lol, yeah it should. Is there some forum that you guys talk on? This site doesn't work very well since every time you refresh it goes back to the home page.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    yeah go to the forum page and there is a chat function im waiting for you
    bike or design for computer Kristopher
    This has been suggested before. I think Bike or Design 2.0 for Palm should come out first. I am trying to think of a much different editor, that would be more efficient. Things like copy/paste for polygons, polygon scaling (to stretch or shrink a polygon of ground), etc.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    The refresh 'problem' is because you come here through the main page. Bookmark http://bike.toyspring.com/forum.php instead.
    Sqare Time Trial bones
    i hate this level
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Vega
    Wow! Impressive okay okay I guess I'm convinced
    I love everyone Vega
    no...not everyone, cuz I'm not
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    The games should be in your "Unauthorized Games" section if you can't find them.
    http://bike.toyspring.com/player.php?p=3946&pt=2
    bike or design for computer Vega
    Oh this would be very cool. I don't knwo about all of you but I have been maxing out every single level I have made for max points allowed on the screen. I had to scrap my entire Pirates level because I wasn't even close to finished with the detailing and I already hit the max, so I guess I have to be less detailed than I would like to be. At any rate, whether that would change or not, being able to design these on the computer would allow us to really expand the potential for level creation. If a creator/designer like this could be pulled off, I believe we would see an immediate spike in quality and creativity of levels.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    Kristopher - It says that there are no games.

    Vega - Does that mean you'll open your movie?
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    he said he would openat 20.30 so we'll have to see if he's nice enough to open with that time
    bones's game on Double Sprint bones
    dammit. yougive a guy your ghost and he goes and beats it. =) makes me feel like a mentor
    bike or design for computer Kristopher
    I think the level limits are due to Bike or Die!, not Bike or Design. But maybe they could be expanded.
    daledude's game on Double Sprint Kristopher
    Your games are either:

  • In your "Games On-Line" section
  • In your "Unauthorized Games" section
  • Under someone else's name
  • Not submitted

    You could try resubmitting them. I think that is an option in the JavaSync.
  • daledude's game on Double Sprint Vega
    no
    I love everyone mike flips
    daledude's game on Double Sprint bones
    well ill keep trying for 20.30 and hopefully eclaim my silver
    bike or design for computer mike flips
    The more points, the slower it loads. Try loading Die or Die and levels like that, they are massive. If we increase the level limits, most peoples' palms would take a minute to load the levels which would be very annoying.

    Opposite Reaction bones
    great job nick a high score on a level that doesnt matter
    Leap of faith Kristopher
    Yes, Vega, this does seem to be exactly the same as level #565.

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    Leap of faith bones
    nice level though
    alphabet Kristopher
    Can't you jump over the J and win? This needs more checkpoints.
    alphabet bones
    no its immpossible trust me i tried that a lot
    alphabet mike flips
    never say anything is impossible (although im pretty sure its impossible as well)

    However, it is possible in this level to get down between the "M" and "N"

    This level needs a checkpoint above the "K" to prevent any tricks to skip the level.
    alphabet bones
    yeah you can fall through but you wont live.at least im prtty sure you wont.i'll test it some more and comment what happens
    so close to so far bones
    yeah vega the flags on the right are a tease im sure of that.so anyone else think hall of fame potential??
    alphabet bones
    yep, you either fall into the middle of the v and die or die on the n or hit the left of the vand go in down by missing the v.i think i got all flaws taken care of.
    alphabet Vega
    I can guarantee that you can live by going thru the updraft and flipping and landing just right. Also, I guarantee even more that someone will find a way to jump the J and land on the flag. Solve all of this with Kris's suggestion. Put a flag on the curve of the J and put a flag above the K and right above the T. Then no more shortcuts will be possible. without these extra flags, this level will be shortcuted for sure! . But cool design tho. Just 3 more flags and this one is good to go
    alphabet bones
    all right ill give sz a pack with all my levels from that pack that are mine and some more.
    alphabet bones
    im sending my pack in and there is only one new flag o the q which solves everything
    The White House Kristopher
    The White House was drawn by someone from Costa Rica??
    alphabet Vega
    need one more in the J or everyone is gonna skip half your level as soon as the first person figures out how to dip down thru the updraft just before the A, land on the M, bounce over to the l and finish the level. I mean, it's your level so if that's ok with you then ok but it will happen Then A-J will be skipped and it looks like a good part of the level
    alphabet bones
    you are right cause i just skipped it and it saved me considerable time i'll email him again withthe change.the flag will be at the beginning of the N
    The White House bones
    lol.he did a good job making it into a level though. i was thinking of making a pack of historical places and i was going to do something like this but not exactly
    Spikes bones
    interesting level.it could have been made better by adding spikes on the ground and walls as well
    Christmas bones
    perfect time to play this level
    RFK : I bones
    rfk did. most levelpack creators do that.(i did mine and mike's realisticly)
    RFK.2.029-Shooter bones
    nice design for a level
    RFK : II bones
    i'd say there are some eally good ideas in this pack that might have been overlooked for hall of fame
    Freestyle Competition bones
    this page still isn't fixed

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    scribbles bones
    this level is actually realyly fun but you feel as if you are going really slow
    blades out bones
    this level would probably become a bottle
    can you bike right? bones
    this level is fast played but not really great for hall of fame
    invisible hooks bones
    mike's level but a lot of fun but moderatley easy
    brake or die! bones
    this is the second level that i ever made
    a lil to da right bones
    5this one is really fun to mess around with and sort of hard at first
    basketball bones
    doesnt look like what i meant it to but it is really fun but really slow feeling
    bacon eggs sausuge and toast bones
    this level is really fun and fast and could be a good hall of fame level
    the 70's in a nutshell bones
    short and sweet
    crazy coat hanger bones
    this levelis another slow feel and kind of boring to be honest
    RFK : I Kristopher
    I give four or five stars to some of my levels, but if they only deserve one to three stars, then I don't rate them at all.
    huge halfpipe bones
    this level is one of my personal favorites. i actually remade the entire level 4 times before deciding on this design.it has some invisible lines but they are good because they make you kind of do a retake. it actually is possible to finish in the flag in the ground
    baseball bones
    the obstacles are frustrating but it is harder than wet stone because of the obstacles
    downhlill madness 2 bones
    anyone gone from top to finish without taking the reccommended course cause im yet to do that
    RFK : I bones
    i only do that when it reaches three
    Cracked Eggs bones
    these levels shouldnt be published unless they are possible and to many they arentpossible at all
    BikeOrDie - Lucas bones
    pretty basic
    .Gogeta§§J4BR. bones
    weird levels and all really easy and some self play
    Jail Break! bones
    been there. done that.lol
    Golden Club bones
    man you gus typed a lot in there

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    Christmas Vega
    This is one of my top choices for the new level pack!
    What kind of Palm does everyone use? bones
    huge screenon the tx though so it is very good to see whats about to happen and have time to react
    Christmas bones
    sweet i wasn't alone
    Time Trial Champions bones
    the only way that could happen is if they practiced that level and that one only and no one else does. it will probably happen when the new pack comes out for like one minute before someone else submits
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    one minute of glory to me!haha.. ok bones.. we wont ever see that...
    RFK.1.002-Sepang Vega
    This looks like a sweet level but.... is the bottom right hand corner possible?.....the part where you have to jump for the last red flag under the spike just before the finish flag. It looks like it may be hard to get up there. I haven't downloaded the pack yet. Has anyone ever completed this level?
    Inside bulding Vega
    the detail in this level is very good! Zoom in and take a look at the office chair at the big desk. Even the stacked boxes are sort of 3-D
    Welcome to the Jungle Vega
    this could be a bottle level
    Winter in Toyspring Vega
    Somehow I missed this level. I would have nominated this one too
    Welcome to the Jungle mike flips
    but its a great song
    Winter in Toyspring mike flips
    yea this one is sweet
    Welcome to the Jungle bones
    i hope you are being sarcastic vega
    RFK.1.002-Sepang Kristopher
    Even if it is possible, I still think we should make the ending easier if it goes into the Hall of Fame.
    Inside bulding bones
    i'll recommend this one cause it is amazing detail and a good level
    Welcome to the Jungle Vega
    yes indeed bones. This looks like a great level for the HOF !
    Welcome to the Jungle bones
    good cause i'm recommending it. =)
    Aim! Vega
    ok lol's jungle level is not a bottle. I was just kiddin around.....but this one looks like it really could be. What's the catch here? I see the strong updraft, but I don't know if that will be enough.
    Aim! bones
    this is a three button level and it probably will be a bottle.vega get on chat if you have a minute
    can you bike right? Vega
    Why do you say that bones?? Looks great to me
    Jail Escape bones
    kris how come this looks so familiar....lol

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    can you bike right? bones
    its not that detailed
    bones bones
    the s is really weird looking but cool
    Time Trial Champions MATA
    I read this idea in a thread somewhere else,saying that it was a bad thing, and I came up with this question: How many of you play BoD when you are in the bathroom?? I do, and is one of the places where ive managed to get some of my best times!! jaja.. and you?
    Time Trial Champions bones
    what thread??
    Medals by Country bones
    i wonder if america will stay on top wit kristopher,vega,smmalls?

    and of course me =)
    Medals by Country bones
    and PMD sorry didnt mean to skip you
    Ideas bones
    level movies
    what if when you clicked on a video to look at it closer. the creator of the level could put a movie on there so they can see how it's done. BUT only the creator can so it would only happen on some levels since many levelpack creators have left
    Jail Escape Kristopher
    That is odd, because I don't think I have seen this level before. I think I got stuck in levels three and four of this pack.
    Jail Escape bones
    weird cuse its almost exactly like yours
    bones's game on The Right Way bones
    i love this level. but i hate how slow my time is...
    Happy Pumpkin bones
    is this level even possible??
    level movies Kristopher
    You can already zoom in on the movies. You can open a menu by right-clicking on the movie.
    For the other idea - I think every recording for every level should be uploaded, then all movies would be viewable through the levelpack explorer.
    level movies Vega
    I thought of something today. I think in order to put your level pack online to view, each level should need to have a flash recording of the creator beating it or it isn't eligible. This would weed out a lot of levels but that's good cuz there is certainly no shortage eh?
    level movies Vega
    oops....except ofcourse for the levels already on there. I mean from this point forward
    level movies bones
    that's what i meant to say but i couldn't spitit out right
    level movies bones
    *spit
    daledude's game on Double Sprint daledude
    they are't anywhere.it's okay though i'll just beat my times.
    Jail Escape mike flips
    I thot Kris's level was just an upgrade of this level.
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    my levels are gonna be sent in tonite or tomorrow
    Most Entertaining Level bones
    anyone else think this would be a great addition for the next hall of fame pack?

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    Most Entertaining Level Kristopher
    It is good!
    can you bike right? bones
    all right its a good hall of fame choice you persuaded me
    Steps bones
    i really think this is a good level for hall of fame if we can't decide on a level
    Christmas bones
    in other words this should definetly be in the next pack
    Most Entertaining Level mike flips
    i think its ok, but we are nominating way too many levels before all the levels are in,

    Vega, me, bones, and others all have more levels coming

    Medals by Country PMD
    No offense taken.
    Luna's game on Bike Impossible Petersen
    bad dog
    Most Entertaining Level Vega
    Good yes, but I passed on this one because anybody can up for 10 seconds straight....which is exactly what you do in the second half. Put the flag above the biker and I would've voted for this one
    Luna's game on Bike Impossible Vega
    Kelevra
    BOD - Daily Routine bones
    these ae the levels i made from bones and mike's top 25. plus three more that i didn't have in there.also alphabet is change for the better
    Most Entertaining Level mike flips
    its not even the "most entertaining"
    Luna's game on Bike Impossible mike flips
    lol vega
    Luna's game on Bike Impossible Vega
    Lucky Number Slevin
    Ideas daledude
    Bike or Die on Xbox Live Arcade
    I think it's worth looking into. Anyone can make a game for Xbox Live now that XNA is out (developing tools for XBLA and PC) and free for whoever wants them. It costs money to put the game on XBL (not sure about PC's though, they might be free), but if you want to do this and you get the game running as well as you like on XNA it might be worth it.

    Here's the link for XNA,

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/XNA/default.aspx
    alphabet Vega
    good job bones
    Luna's game on Bike Impossible bones
    i love that movie =)
    Bike or Die on Xbox Live Arcade bones
    daale many ideas like this have been proposed before.
    alphabet bones
    thanks. it took a couple of tries. =)
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    TABS.... WHERE ARE YOU!
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    saving up levels just to submit this isnt cool, if you are trying to make a "comeback" thats kinda lame and its been done before... if you still play you should post a message or something... and if you quit you can at least say bye.


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    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    me and Cirenco saved up but we still posted... we didnt just disappear like you... so post a message.
    super bottle bones
    i figured irony could come in all forms. haha
    downhill uphill bones
    pretty simple but can be a pain on the way up sometimes
    Kristopher's game on Bird Kristopher
    Still .90 seconds of space.
    Kristopher's game on Bird mike flips
    u mean 0.1 kris?
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    I have a question for everyone...

    I thought it would be kinda cool to have my "signature" as in the word "mike" in all my new levels. I would place them out of the way so that you may pass them by but the dont influence the playing of the level at all...

    Is that a cool idea or would it take away from the level. Im trying to maximize hall of fame potential

    what do people think?
    Levelpack Explorer Vega
    Do it Mike I might put a little somethin somethin in mine too
    Time Trial Champions Henoch
    Have a merry christmas everybody. Happy holiday and waiting for the new levelpack (maybe winter levelpack??)
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    u think so? u dont think its a bit egotistical or that it would distract from the level? (well i guess, it doesnt affect anything)

    Heres what ill do:
    I will submit the levels with my "signature" and then when people look at them, hopefully, they will either not mind it, or... if people think its not a good idea, i can just send it back to Sz again without the signatures. I can erase them all in under a minute. SO i guess if u are doing that too vega, just make sure they arent connected to anything and that they do not influence the playing of the level so that they can be removed quickly without a problem.
    Time Trial Champions mike flips
    Happppppppppy Hollllllidays
    Levelpack Explorer Vega
    Mike - It's no big deal. I mean depending on how you do it. But lots and lots of people have written words into their levels off to the side and out of the way. I put this on my pirates level.

    See it at

    http://bikeordie.50webs.com/preview/vega_movies/index.html

    but I just emailed it to Kris this morning so maybe Pirates isn't on there just yet Check back tho if it's not
    Levelpack Explorer mike flips
    i guess i can send to kris and you guys can preview ill do that today
    Time Trial Champions bones
    huh my holidays just ended .ironic.
    Kristopher's game on Bird Smalls
    no, DK said there was 1 second worth of space, Kris beat him by .1 so... Very nice run!
    Kristopher's game on Bird mike flips
    Dk still has the same amount of space that he always did... and Kris has 0.1

    maybe i am missing something
    Kristopher's game on Bird bones
    kris means someone can still beat him by .9 ...get it now mike?
    Time Trial Champions Kristopher
    Merry Christmas! - which is not until tomorrow, so it should not have ended yet!!